Post by: Glasser on June 01, 2021, 08:28:45 AM
https://breaking911.com/breaking-worlds-largest-meatpacker-jbs-hit-by-ransomware-attack-wh-confirms-plants-halt-slaughter/
World’s Largest Meatpacker JBS Hit By Ransomware Attack, WH Confirms; Plants Halt Slaughter
Post by: omnigun on June 01, 2021, 08:39:22 AM
Money makes the world go round, everyone wants money, it ain't always political.
Post by: Glasser on June 01, 2021, 08:48:39 AM
First No Collusion, Now No Actual *Russians* in Mueller's Disastrous Russian Collusion Illusion
The charges against three Russian “bot” farms and 13 individuals in Mueller’s so-called Russian collusion case were dropped with prejudice on Monday.
One of the companies, Concord Management and Consulting, LLC, hired a high-powered attorney who came to the Mueller poker table, put some chips on the table, and called the bluff.
“The only case Mueller brought to prove ‘Russian interference’ w/ any defense is now being dismissed by DOJ b/c prosecutors knew they couldn’t win at trial. Repeat: the DOJ could not find a single case they could successfully prosecute to prove any act of “Russian interference.”
Post by: groveler on June 01, 2021, 09:04:59 AM
Calling attacks on large USA cities an "act of war" seems a little bit of Hyperbole.
USA would be far better off without those cities.
If Democrats want to start a war, let them fight it.
I did my time, Vietnam era for a Democrat boondoggle.
Somehow big city Democrats being deprived of food
doesn't bother me these days. :thumbsup:
Post by: aletheuo137 on June 01, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
I know exactly where a pretty significant amount of my food comes from and it isn't Safeway, Walmart, or Foodland.Me too, oh no!
Calling attacks on large USA cities an "act of war" seems a little bit of Hyperbole.
USA would be far better off without those cities.
If Democrats want to start a war, let them fight it.
I did my time, Vietnam era for a Democrat boondoggle.
Somehow big city Democrats being deprived of food
doesn't bother me these days.
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 01, 2021, 01:18:20 PM
If they are asking for a ransom and actually provide the recovery code when paid, then it can't be about harming the nation.
They started out going after retailers and other small businesses, looking for smaller payouts. They were honing their ransomware and going after companies that had very weak, or no, network security or backups.
Now, they are going after highly visible targets. They've learned that the publicity of being hacked costs their victims more than the hack itself. The more high profile the company, the more likely they are to get paid.
This is not likely to stop anytime soon -- not as long as the criminals are able to extort millions out of one victim.
Post by: Glasser on June 01, 2021, 01:46:35 PM
https://www.wired.com/story/eternalblue-leaked-nsa-spy-tool-hacked-world/
If it was all about the money they would go after smaller targets that wouldn't make the radar of the press.
Post by: omnigun on June 01, 2021, 01:47:55 PM
Ransomware is about money, not "warfare."
If they are asking for a ransom and actually provide the recovery code when paid, then it can't be about harming the nation.
They started out going after retailers and other small businesses, looking for smaller payouts. They were honing their ransomware and going after companies that had very weak, or no, network security or backups.
Now, they are going after highly visible targets. They've learned that the publicity of being hacked costs their victims more than the hack itself. The more high profile the company, the more likely they are to get paid.
This is not likely to stop anytime soon -- not as long as the criminals are able to extort millions out of one victim.
Twice in one day Flapp is right. Good way to start the month off.
Might I add if any country was seriously an adversary against us for the purpose of major war, they would never want to do these types of attacks in this way. All they are doing is exposing all our weaknesses early so we can be better prepared for the main event.
Post by: groveler on June 01, 2021, 01:50:17 PM
Ransomware is about money, not "warfare."All these idiots took a design meant to share information and then want to make it not share
If they are asking for a ransom and actually provide the recovery code when paid, then it can't be about harming the nation.
They started out going after retailers and other small businesses, looking for smaller payouts. They were honing their ransomware and going after companies that had very weak, or no, network security or backups.
Now, they are going after highly visible targets. They've learned that the publicity of being hacked costs their victims more than the hack itself. The more high profile the company, the more likely they are to get paid.
This is not likely to stop anytime soon -- not as long as the criminals are able to extort millions out of one victim.
information, that is like putting lipstick on a pig.
It is still a pig.
Anytime you let a Democrat dictate policy. it will fail.
Since we can't legally kill them off, then learn to live with it.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 01, 2021, 02:30:06 PM
All these idiots took a design meant to share information and then want to make it not share
information, that is like putting lipstick on a pig.
It is still a pig.
Anytime you let a Democrat dictate policy. it will fail.
Since we can't legally kill them off, then learn to live with it.
Just like RoboCalls and SPAM, if you are accessible from a network connection (Internet, email, cellular,...), you are a target.
I can't figure out how companies are still operating in this hack-happy world without constant hot or warm backups going back 3 months. That remains the only way to survive most sophisticated hacks or failures.
It's not a matter of IF you will need a backup, but when.
Post by: macsak on June 01, 2021, 03:13:23 PM
Twice in one day Flapp is right. Good way to start the month off.
Might I add if any country was seriously an advisory against us for the purpose of major war, they would never want to do these types of attacks in this way. All they are doing is exposing all our weaknesses early so we can be better prepared for the main event.
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adversary?
focus...
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 01, 2021, 03:50:21 PM
Twice in one day Flapp is right. Good way to start the month off.
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Coming from the self-appointed arbiter of what's right, true and honest, that means as much as Biden promising to forgive student debt.
Post by: hvybarrels on June 01, 2021, 04:31:48 PM
Post by: aletheuo137 on June 01, 2021, 05:40:55 PM
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Post by: Glasser on June 01, 2021, 07:29:55 PM
Weren’t we just listening to democrats talk about forcing everybody to drive electric cars and eat bugs for global warming? Awfully convenient attacks in this regard
In ye olden times Peasants and serfs were rarely able / allowed to eat meat. Some of it was scarcity, but mostly because they didnt want plebs to be strong enough to rebel against the yoke of the tyrants they lived under.
Smoke weed all day, eat bugs, drink soy and swallow the estrogen laced water from plastic bottles and birth control pills flushed into the reservoirs.
Brought to you by the same folks who created all the diabetes and obesity with the Food Pyramid.
(https://www.nextlevelurgentcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/foodpyramid.png)
Hard to make rebel soldiers when men dont have testosterone.
Post by: hvybarrels on June 02, 2021, 12:14:09 AM
20% Constipation
35% Rabbit Food
40% More Diabetus
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on June 02, 2021, 02:52:50 PM
5% Diabetus
20% Constipation
35% Rabbit Food
40% More Diabetus
Vegetables?
That's not "food". That's what food eats!
Post by: Glasser on June 02, 2021, 08:18:50 PM
Instead of tree hugging liberal, turn it to bug eating commie!
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/desperate-attention-cnn-anchor-eats-dead-bugs-live-television/
Desperate for Attention? CNN Anchor Eats Dead Bugs on Live Television
Glad they are dialing it down a little, CNN had reporters eating Human Brains not all that long ago.
Hindus condemn CNN presenter who ate human brain during documentary on sect
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/cnn-presenter-reza-aslan-eat-human-brain-hindu-documentary-sect-india-varanasi-aghori-a7622071.html
I hope all of CNNs on air talents gets a heaping helping of Prions.
Eating Prions might be what happened to Omni.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 02, 2021, 08:35:35 PM
First they attacked fuel pipelines. Now they are going after food. Why dont I believe them when they say its Russians?
https://breaking911.com/breaking-worlds-largest-meatpacker-jbs-hit-by-ransomware-attack-wh-confirms-plants-halt-slaughter/
World’s Largest Meatpacker JBS Hit By Ransomware Attack, WH Confirms; Plants Halt Slaughter
I am no cyber security expert but so far from the reporting I have heard on these types of incidents are that they can never be positive whether it was government sanctioned or just a skilled hacker. The evidence seems to often show the hackers are in Russia but then you have to acknowledge it could be a private individual, it could be someone Russia knows about and doesn't stop, it could be a government funded hacker, or it could be a Russian employee.
Before we declare war on a country, it might be nice to know whether Russia did it or just someone in Russia.
Post by: Glasser on June 02, 2021, 09:13:26 PM
I am no cyber security expert but so far from the reporting I have heard on these types of incidents are that they can never be positive whether it was government sanctioned or just a skilled hacker. The evidence seems to often show the hackers are in Russia but then you have to acknowledge it could be a private individual, it could be someone Russia knows about and doesn't stop, it could be a government funded hacker, or it could be a Russian employee.
Before we declare war on a country, it might be nice to know whether Russia did it or just someone in Russia.
I dont think it is Russia at all, right up until the recent administration the FBIs most wanted cyber criminal list was populated by Iran and China (mostly Iran). Last time the FBI tried to blame Russia for cyber attacks a lawyer showed up and the DOJ dropped the case for lack of evidence after getting shellacked for having zero evidence other than spoofed IP addresses. Russia is way behind the curve on cyber, even podunk piss poor Eastern Bloc countries like Belasrus and Romania were making big plays in cyber attacks.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2010491/savviest-hackers-hail-from-eastern-europe-researchers-say.html
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 02, 2021, 09:28:05 PM
I dont think it is Russia at all, right up until the recent administration the FBIs most wanted cyber criminal list was populated by Iran and China. Last time the FBI tried to blame Russia for cyber attacks a lawyer showed up and the DOJ dropped the case for lack of evidence after getting shellacked for having zero evidence other than spoofed IP addresses. Russia is way behind the curve on cyber, even podunk piss poor Eastern Bloc countries like Belasrus and Romania where making big plays in cyber attacks.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2010491/savviest-hackers-hail-from-eastern-europe-researchers-say.html
Just to be clear I was speaking in generalities, not this specific instance. Who really knows though, a good hacker can certainly make it look like they were in Russia when they weren't. I don't know if I would say Russia was not very good on the cyber warfare though, at least not according to some reports I have read. Certainly they aren't the only players though. And if it were Russia or Russian sponsored they would certainly take steps to insulate themselves from any blame.
Post by: Glasser on June 02, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Just to be clear I was speaking in generalities, not this specific instance. Who really knows though, a good hacker can certainly make it look like they were in Russia when they weren't. I don't know if I would say Russia was not very good on the cyber warfare though, at least not according to some reports I have read. Certainly they aren't the only players though. And if it were Russia or Russian sponsored they would certainly take steps to insulate themselves from any blame.
My earlier point in this thread was that these kinds of high profile attacks arent usually lone wolf private groups farming a bitcoin payout, those folks tend to target smaller low profile targets, less heat, easier gains. Big attacks like this tend to be state sponsored, if traced they can hide behind the skirts of their government sponsor and not fear getting extradited and facing charges. 'Zero Day' attacks arent easy to come by and arent wasted on small targets. once they are used they are patched over and cant be used again. Developing those kinds of attacks takes time and money and once they are used they gone forever. it's a one time bullet, people paying for it want to make sure the shot counts.
Post by: Glasser on June 03, 2021, 07:07:04 AM
Ransomware attack cripples Martha's Vineyard ferry - as it's revealed China hacked NYC's MTA in April in failed bid to get control of its subway trains
New York City's transit system was hacked in April, it emerged on Wednesday
Hackers from China accessed the IT services via remote log-in systems
The MTA required 3,700 employees and contractors to change their passwords
Transit authority said that passengers were not at risk, and no data was stolen
It is the third time in recent years that foreign hackers have accessed the MTA
The report of the hack came a month after the Colonial Pipeline was taken out
On Tuesday US operations at the world's largest meat processer were stopped
On Wednesday the ferry between Massachusetts and islands was disrupted
Passengers traveling to Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket faced delays
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9646583/China-hacked-MTA-failed-control-NY-subway-Ransomware-cripples-Marthas-Vineyard-ferry.html
Post by: Kuleana on June 03, 2021, 09:17:45 AM
Obama has a house out there. And finally they are admitting some of these infrastructure attacks are coming from China, not Russia.China, China, China; it seems a week can't go by, where the power okole, of the US empire, are unable to find an excuse, to redirect American attention away from themselves; as they continue to incarcerate and throw, into gulags, American patriots that exercised their 1st Amendment rights this past January 6, 2021.
The US empire has many more enemies, on this planet, than the usual US imperial punching bags: China, Russia, DPRK, etc. ANTIFA, Proud Boys, Kurds, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, as well as all other social movements, ethnic groups, and/or sovereign nations that had been pawned, by the US empire, in the past, has motive for payback as well.
Post by: omnigun on June 03, 2021, 09:32:40 AM
China, China, China; it seems a week can't go by, where the power okole, of the US empire, are unable to find an excuse, to redirect American attention away from themselves; as they continue to incarcerate and throw, into gulags, American patriots that exercised their 1st Amendment rights this past January 6, 2021.
The US empire has many more enemies, on this planet, than the usual US imperial punching bags: China, Russia, DPRK, etc. ANTIFA, Proud Boys, Kurds, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, as well as all other social movements, ethnic groups, and/or sovereign nations that had been pawned, by the US empire, in the past, has motive for payback as well.
Or just maybe...China is bad and our enemy and the enemy of the world and its people?
Post by: Kuleana on June 03, 2021, 10:05:56 AM
Or just maybe...China is bad and our enemy and the enemy of the world and its people?Is that the best US imperial scripted rebuttal you can offer???
Such bad comedy...
Post by: oldfart on June 03, 2021, 12:59:54 PM
Or just maybe...China is bad and our enemy and the enemy of the world and its people?(https://i.postimg.cc/9Fvb9Rxg/cowplans.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xpk9SJ69)
Post by: eyeeatingfish on June 03, 2021, 08:25:19 PM
My earlier point in this thread was that these kinds of high profile attacks arent usually lone wolf private groups farming a bitcoin payout, those folks tend to target smaller low profile targets, less heat, easier gains. Big attacks like this tend to be state sponsored, if traced they can hide behind the skirts of their government sponsor and not fear getting extradited and facing charges. 'Zero Day' attacks arent easy to come by and arent wasted on small targets. once they are used they are patched over and cant be used again. Developing those kinds of attacks takes time and money and once they are used they gone forever. it's a one time bullet, people paying for it want to make sure the shot counts.
Agreed. It was interesting to learn about the zero day attacks and how these vulnerabilities can command millions of dollars on the dark web. I wonder if we can ever find a hacker if they were well funded and took all steps to cover their tracks?
I did hear a report that Russia didn't bother to arrest hackers that would mess with American companies. That was we get attacked but they can say it wasn't their fault.
Post by: Glasser on June 03, 2021, 09:31:07 PM
Agreed. It was interesting to learn about the zero day attacks and how these vulnerabilities can command millions of dollars on the dark web. I wonder if we can ever find a hacker if they were well funded and took all steps to cover their tracks?
I did hear a report that Russia didn't bother to arrest hackers that would mess with American companies. That was we get attacked but they can say it wasn't their fault.
The other super suspicious thing about these recent hacks is they arent common targets, this isnt hacking a webcam to catch you jerking it, or encrypting a victims hard drive holding their data hostage till they pay up, or even cracking into big personal info databases. This is going after infrastructure controls attached to networks. Stuff like that is hyper specific, takes a ton of research and recon to ID the targets and learn how to exploit them. Very similar to what the US and Israel tag teamed to do to Irans Nuclear Uranium Centrifuges with the Stuxnet Worm. Kinda rules out 16 yr old Romanian kids trying to get money to buy more video cards to up their bitcoin mining game to the next level. That is why I am pretty convinced this is State Sponsored Hackers tied to foreign military. Thats exactly who we use to do this kind of stuff on our side. There are rooms full of them at the NSA.
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 04, 2021, 11:29:25 AM