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Title: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Mr. Farknocker on July 16, 2021, 10:48:47 AM
I haven't visited gun store for many months due to being busy with other things and am in need of 22 LR.  The last time I checked, supplies of 22 LR and other ammo were...well non-existant.  Is that still the case or do the local stores have it in stock?
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 16, 2021, 11:59:30 AM
It's hit or miss. So you don't waste your time driving around, I would call first.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Mr. Farknocker on July 16, 2021, 12:24:53 PM
It's hit or miss. So you don't waste your time driving around, I would call first.

Good advice. I can't tell you how many times I've wasted time and resources going to a place to see if they have something.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: stangzilla on July 16, 2021, 01:12:25 PM
last time i went to YG's a couple weeks ago they only had the expensive match grade 22 ammo
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: HeliosRX8 on July 16, 2021, 01:32:56 PM
HGS just reopened and had a few options, Remington Thunderbolts, CCI stingers, and Winchester bulk boxes, if I remember correctly. 
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: DocMercy on September 06, 2021, 08:42:47 PM
Uncle Joe of Windward Gun Shop had .22LR and 9mm ammo on Saturday, Sept. 4, 2021. His prices seem to be reasonable. Henry was in the store on that day. Probably the best day to shop since many customers visit the store, and you can pick their brains at the same time. Those of you who want to learn reloading, and need critical supplies should shop here first.

Standard Plus is one of the .22LR brands Joe is carrying. Ballistic characteristics are on this page:

https://sk-ammunition.com/products/standard-plus/ (https://sk-ammunition.com/products/standard-plus/)
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 07, 2021, 05:33:42 AM
Last time I was at YG (1st week of Sept. 2021) they had no bulk packs of .22LR and no CCI Mini Mags.  They had CCI on the shelf but they were mostly shorts and standard velocity.

They had Remington green and white box 115 gr. 9mm range ammo limit 5 boxes.  They also had a plain white box 9mm 115 gr. range ammo but I forgot what brand.

They had no SD 9mm ammo and the sign said limit 1 box.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: DocMercy on September 13, 2021, 12:21:32 PM
Maggie claims that the ammo shortage is due to manufacturers concentrating production on NATO-spec cartridges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugDKOCD6GSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugDKOCD6GSU)

Anyhow, Security Equipment Corp phoned to tell me they have 9mm back in stock. This morning.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 13, 2021, 12:35:27 PM
Maggie claims that the ammo shortage is due to manufacturers concentrating production on NATO-spec cartridges.

Anyhow, Security Equipment Corp phoned to tell me they have 9mm back in stock. This morning.

"This is a rumor. I have not verified this."

Not sure that falls under "claims" as much as "discusses a rumor."   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: drck1000 on September 13, 2021, 01:14:33 PM
Maggie looks like a "Karen"
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: drck1000 on September 13, 2021, 01:16:27 PM
Ordered some Hornady ELDs for my 6.5 project.  Maybe over a week ago.  Not in any rush though.  On their website, they state something like a 5-7 day lag on shipping.  Got an email this morning that COVID hit their shop hard and that they are now getting over it.  That they reached out to follow up impressed me with their CS. 
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 13, 2021, 02:41:53 PM
Maggie looks like a "Karen"

I get the impression she enjoys being in front of a camera.

And the center of attention.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 13, 2021, 02:50:53 PM
I get the impression she enjoys being in front of a camera.

And the center of attention.

She knows her guns for the most part, and it appears she's not reading from a script.  I applaud her for being able to do a better job speaking in front of a camera and interviewer than US Resident Biden has demonstrated!

Also, she's the person being questioned/interviewed, so she literally IS the center of attention!   :geekdanc: :D :shaka:
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 13, 2021, 03:02:00 PM
She knows her guns for the most part, and it appears she's not reading from a script.  I applaud her for being able to do a better job speaking in front of a camera and interviewer than US Resident Biden has demonstrated!

Also, she's the person being questioned/interviewed, so she literally IS the center of attention!   :geekdanc: :D :shaka:

I'm sure she's a great person.  Definitely very knowledgeable and well spoken.  In a way she reminds me of the woman who works at YG.  I knew her name but for some reason it escapes me now.  (old age, lol!)
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 13, 2021, 03:40:47 PM
Maggie claims that the ammo shortage is due to manufacturers concentrating production on NATO-spec cartridges.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugDKOCD6GSU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugDKOCD6GSU)

Anyhow, Security Equipment Corp phoned to tell me they have 9mm back in stock. This morning.

Good to know.  I hope they call me too.  I did inquire a while back and the lady on the phone asked me if I wanted to be on the notification list.  Of course I said yes.

Do they call people in order of where you stand on the list?

Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: drck1000 on September 13, 2021, 03:58:06 PM
Good to know.  I hope they call me too.  I did inquire a while back and the lady on the phone asked me if I wanted to be on the notification list.  Of course I said yes.

Do they call people in order of where you stand on the list?
Yup.  There are times when I forgot that I even requested to be on the list, and then get a call many months later.  I think only a few times I didn't go down and pick up what came in.  Even in some cases I was already able to get what I had signed up for. 

If you don't pick up, they'll do down the list.  At least what I've been told.  That happens many times where I'll see ammo on the floor, lots of it, and they say they're still working their way down the list. 
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 13, 2021, 06:50:49 PM
Check kaleos website.

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Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 14, 2021, 06:07:22 AM
Yup.  There are times when I forgot that I even requested to be on the list, and then get a call many months later.  I think only a few times I didn't go down and pick up what came in.  Even in some cases I was already able to get what I had signed up for. 

If you don't pick up, they'll do down the list.  At least what I've been told.  That happens many times where I'll see ammo on the floor, lots of it, and they say they're still working their way down the list.

Thanks!  I'm pretty sure I'm quite down the list.  I inquired about a week and a half ago.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 14, 2021, 06:09:08 AM
Check kaleos website.

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I did.  :shaka:

I ordered a case of 223.  Also inquired about 9mm.  But looks like it will be offered on a future pallet.  They'll get back to me on the 9mm.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Akubone1 on September 14, 2021, 03:35:42 PM
Anyone looking for 9mm Speer Gold Dot.  I went to Security Equipment the other week and put my name on the list for 9mm hollow point.  They called this week. They got 9mm Speer Gold Dot for $40/box of 50rds.  They called me 1 1/2 months ago but was looking for FMJ.  Price was the same $40/bx of 50 rds for Speer...they had a bunch so maybe they couldn't sell it all.  Could have bought 2 cases (500 rds/case).  Anyway, if anyone needs the 9mm hollow points it might be worth calling them or getting your name on the list.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: stangzilla on September 14, 2021, 07:04:42 PM
Check kaleos website.

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Patience is a virtue in disguise   :shaka:
I second that recommendation.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
https://www.kaleoarms.com/hawaii-ammunition/order#
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: kptheplatypus on October 10, 2021, 03:22:31 PM
Checked the site but all I see or sale is mag pouches or bass. Do they’d sell ammo or just reloading supplies?
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: powder monkey on October 10, 2021, 06:32:37 PM
Tuesday
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Inspector on October 11, 2021, 06:03:16 AM
I haven't visited gun store for many months due to being busy with other things and am in need of 22 LR.  The last time I checked, supplies of 22 LR and other ammo were...well non-existant.  Is that still the case or do the local stores have it in stock?
I can’t help you much over there. But over here ammo is making a comeback and pretty good as well. As far as .22 is concerned only LR is making on the shelves here in any quantity. Mostly foreign made ammo such as Aguila, SK and Lapua. But I found some Mini Mags at the store the other day and bought my 2 box limit.

So hopefully you’ll start seeing some .22 coming in soon.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 11, 2021, 09:36:47 AM
I can’t help you much over there. But over here ammo is making a comeback and pretty good as well. As far as .22 is concerned only LR is making on the shelves here in any quantity. Mostly foreign made ammo such as Aguila, SK and Lapua. But I found some Mini Mags at the store the other day and bought my 2 box limit.

So hopefully you’ll start seeing some .22 coming in soon.

What's the prices at LGS? Here case 9mm FMJ is going for about $540 at SEC, which have usually the best prices.  Case 223 going for $700. 500rd 45 going for $340.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Inspector on October 11, 2021, 10:55:21 AM
What's the prices at LGS? Here case 9mm FMJ is going for about $540 at SEC, which have usually the best prices.  Case 223 going for $700. 500rd 45 going for $340.
Prices are $22/box of 50 9mm aluminum case Blazer and $25/box of 50 9mm brass case Blazer. I’m sure they will discount slightly for a case. Those prices as of yesterday at my local range. Prices are slightly higher $1-$2 at Sportsman’s Warehouse. Sorry, don’t follow .223 prices much. But based on the sales prices at Natchez it sounds like the price for 9mm and .223 are right in line with what I expect Hawaii prices would be at SEC.

If cases of 9mm get below or around $200/case like they were pre pandemic I will be buying several cases. Same for .223 around $250.

I know this doesn’t help you over there but, case prices of Tula 9mm is $350 + shipping at Classic Firearms. Case price of Tula .223 is $400 + shipping also at Classic Firearms.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 11, 2021, 11:37:16 AM


If cases of 9mm get below or around $200/case like they were pre pandemic I will be buying several cases. Same for .223 around $250.



You have a better chance of seeing a unicorn.

Those are cheap prices if at your local range. Indoor range ammo here is way more, like $60 for box 9mm.  In vegas, pre-covid, indoor range ammo went for about $16 and the indoors here at the time were about $26.  I went to 808GC the other week and 45ACP Gold dot was going for about $120+ for a box of 50.  9mm GD was slightly less, but in the lower $100's.  IIRC, GD 9 was going for $35ish for 50rds precovid at SEC.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: zippz on October 11, 2021, 12:28:38 PM
If cases of 9mm get below or around $200/case like they were pre pandemic I will be buying several cases. Same for .223 around $250.

$200 aint going to happen ever again.  Those were record lows from oversupply and ammo companies were having difficulties making a profit at that price.  Remington shutdown their ammo factories due to that combined with their bankruptcy.  Inflation and wage increases alone make that not possible.  Add in demand from upcoming 2A deregulation over the next few years, demand for raw metals like lead and copper, and reduced military surplus and imports.   9mm brass cased should stabilize to around $300 a case over the next couple years.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Inspector on October 11, 2021, 12:35:11 PM
$200 aint going to happen ever again.  Those were record lows from oversupply and ammo companies were having difficulties making a profit at that price.  Remington shutdown their ammo factories due to that combined with their bankruptcy.  Inflation and wage increases alone make that not possible.  Add in demand from upcoming 2A deregulation over the next few years, demand for raw metals like lead and copper, and reduced military surplus and imports.   9mm should stabilize to the $300 to $400 a case over the next couple years.
I’m sure you are right about the prices. I can still make 9mm for much less than 30 cents so I’ll keep making it myself. But if it gets below that I’m investing in several cases.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: ren on October 11, 2021, 12:38:00 PM
$200 aint going to happen ever again.  Those were record lows from oversupply and ammo companies were having difficulties making a profit at that price.  Remington shutdown their ammo factories due to that combined with their bankruptcy.  Inflation and wage increases alone make that not possible.  Add in demand from upcoming 2A deregulation over the next few years, demand for raw metals like lead and copper, and reduced military surplus and imports.   9mm brass cased should stabilize to around $300 a case over the next couple years.

interesting
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 12, 2021, 10:07:12 AM
Austin Walmart has only 308 and 22 on the shelf.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: pacwire on October 12, 2021, 12:05:59 PM
when i was in Austin in August, only consistly saw (AT WALMART) Shotgun and sometime .22 LR.  I guess they don't sell Handgun ammo anymore.

the Local Academy (i went to a few to say the least) had a Great Selection.  Best price for 9mm Federal 115 FMJ (Redbox) 50 rounds was 17.99.  Again This was august.

Aloha!

Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: QUIETShooter on October 14, 2021, 08:47:20 PM
Anybody know if any LGS have any CCI Mini-Mags?  Or a comparable quality .22LR similar to mini-mags?
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 14, 2021, 09:03:15 PM
when i was in Austin in August, only consistly saw (AT WALMART) Shotgun and sometime .22 LR.  I guess they don't sell Handgun ammo anymore.

the Local Academy (i went to a few to say the least) had a Great Selection.  Best price for 9mm Federal 115 FMJ (Redbox) 50 rounds was 17.99.  Again This was august.

Aloha!
Mrs cmo was at acadamy yesterday. Full shelves, limit 4 boxes. 45acp federal is $30 for box of 50.

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Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Inspector on October 15, 2021, 02:12:48 AM
Mrs cmo was at acadamy yesterday. Full shelves, limit 4 boxes. 45acp federal is $30 for box of 50.

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My local range lifted the 2 box limit it had but the Sportsman’s Warehouse here still has the 2 box limit.
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 15, 2021, 09:19:56 AM
My local range lifted the 2 box limit it had but the Sportsman’s Warehouse here still has the 2 box limit.

Is this an indoor range or outdoor?
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: stangzilla on October 15, 2021, 10:22:36 AM
Anybody know if any LGS have any CCI Mini-Mags?  Or a comparable quality .22LR similar to mini-mags?

I saw at SEC they have CCI minimags but you have to be on the list.  I'm on the list but they didn't call me yet.  must be a long list
maybe try YG's.  i haven't been there in several weeks
Title: Re: The state of ammo supplies?
Post by: Inspector on October 15, 2021, 11:08:20 AM
Is this an indoor range or outdoor?
Indoor.