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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: aaronc5362 on August 12, 2021, 03:09:09 PM
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Has anyone tried to go yet?
I heard HPD turned people away (hpd reached their limit) on the first day lol.
I can see it overcrowding cause alot of people bought during the pandemic and wanna start his or her own process already so he or she can bring that gun home
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Yes. I was there on Tuesday and the line was cut off 2 guys in front of me. And I was there at 6:40. There was about 50 people behind me. We all got turned down.
Today I was there at 5:40. I was 10th in line. I managed to get my shit done by 9:30. Still had tons od disappointed people.
The things we do to exercise our 2a rights....
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What an utter waste. 50 people like up and wait at 6am. Then wait hours. This is why appointments (should) exist. F%&k that I won't wait. Guess I won't be buying new stuff for a little while.
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What an utter waste. 50 people like up and wait at 6am. Then wait hours. This is why appointments (should) exist. Fuck that I won't wait. Guess I won't be buying new stuff for a little while.
Hey, moron. Do you even stop to think before you post?
If there are that many people using the new walk-in procedures, maybe it's because the appointment method isn't working. That many people were unable to get appointments when they needed them, so for them, the process is broken.
Not everyone is willing to try for weeks to get a booking, then sit on their butts for 3 months before buying the guns they want. If there's a sale that makes a gun they really want affordable, they have to pass on it or wait over 3 months to get it -- in which time the prices might come down to less than they already paid.
You have such a linear, one dimensional mind.
P.S. Using profanity again? I thought being banned for that would have made you wiser. Apparently you can't learn new things.
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Hey, moron. Do you even stop to think before you post?
If there are that many people using the new walk-in procedures, maybe it's because the appointment method isn't working. That many people were unable to get appointments when they needed them, so for them, the process is broken.
Not everyone is willing to try for weeks to get a booking, then sit on their butts for 3 months before buying the guns they want. If there's a sale that makes a gun they really want affordable, they have to pass on it or wait over 3 months to get it -- in which time the prices might come down to less than they already paid.
You have such a linear, one dimensional mind.
P.S. Using profanity again? I thought being banned for that would have made you wiser. Apparently you can't learn new things.
There will always be a side that is upset. Clearly there are people out there that appointments worked, and worked great. I've always said we should have both. But this system of walk in only is horrible. You can't justify it.
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Yes. I was there on Tuesday and the line was cut off 2 guys in front of me. And I was there at 6:40. There was about 50 people behind me. We all got turned down.
Today I was there at 5:40. I was 10th in line. I managed to get my shit done by 9:30. Still had tons od disappointed people.
The things we do to exercise our 2a rights....
Aww man. Thats crazy. Sorry you had to make a second trip to get your stuff done. I wonder if i wait a couple weeks, it will get better..
May i ask where you parked? (This is my major problem,no one to help me)
Is the downstairs meters open that early?
Waking up isnt a problem for me. Im usually up by 0100 hours lol.
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Anyone know if the registration line as bad as PTA? Any days in particular that are less busy? I recently received a call from HPD reminding me to register...
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There will always be a side that is upset. Clearly there are people out there that appointments worked, and worked great. I've always said we should have both. But this system of walk in only is horrible. You can't justify it.
You can't base your opinion on the very first sample of a new process. The pent-up demand is going to taper off over the next month, and the number of people in line will drop significantly. It always has after some event increases demand: New pushes for AW bans, Mass Shootings, Black Friday sales, Presidential elections, etc.
You tried to swap appointments with me, and you wound up losing the appointment meant for you in the process.
How would you rate that HPD appointment experience?
-- Very Satisfied ("Worked Great") -- Satisfied -- Somewhat Satisfied ("Worked")
-- Neutral
-- Dissatisfied -- Somewhat Dissatisfied -- Very Dissatisfied[/b]
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Anyone know if the registration line as bad as PTA? Any days in particular that are less busy? I recently received a call from HPD reminding me to register...
Go about mid-day. There was nobody in front of me in the registration vestibule. We got there about 12:30, picked up the permit, signed it, and did the registration in about 20 minutes.
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When I drove by HPD this morning (I think around 615 ish), there was a line from the ewa/mauka corner of the building to the elevator. Not positive what the line was for, but I think it was for PTA. I had not seen that line in the 2-3 weeks prior.
I was like "eh, was there a gun show last week" for the surge of folks. If I had to guess, there were well over 30 folks in line.
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Go about mid-day. There was nobody in front of me in the registration vestibule. We got there about 12:30, picked up the permit, signed it, and did the registration in about 20 minutes.
Thanks for the advice :thumbsup:
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You can't base your opinion on the very first sample of a new process. The pent-up demand is going to taper off over the next month, and the number of people in line will drop significantly. It always has after some event increases demand: New pushes for AW bans, Mass Shootings, Black Friday sales, Presidential elections, etc.
You tried to swap appointments with me, and you wound up losing the appointment meant for you in the process.
How would you rate that HPD appointment experience?
-- Very Satisfied ("Worked Great") -- Satisfied -- Somewhat Satisfied ("Worked")
-- Neutral
-- Dissatisfied -- Somewhat Dissatisfied -- Very Dissatisfied[/b]
I have been buying guns for almost 7 years. This is the best experience I've had when I had an appointment. Many others have said the same. Knowing when to go and not waiting in a needless line is amazing. DMV, etc all use appointments.
Yup I tried to swap and it didn't work. Was still far better overall than previously. I've had many successful appointments with no issues. HPD seemed to be happier too, much more efficient.
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I have been buying guns for almost 7 years. This is the best experience I've had when I had an appointment. Many others have said the same. Knowing when to go and not waiting in a needless line is amazing. DMV, etc all use appointments.
Yup I tried to swap and it didn't work. Was still far better overall than previously. I've had many successful appointments with no issues. HPD seemed to be happier too, much more efficient.
There are other factors:
Permit and Registration has been separated into to physically separate areas. No longer have everyone in one line.
Number of officers servicing us has increased -- necessitated to man two areas now.
No longer have to stand in the same, single line to pick up permits. Basically took one line and split it into three: Permit applications, Permit Pickup, and Registration.
Many forms can be printed and completed online now. Before, even if you tried to use the online forms, depending on which officer you got, you probably had to redo them using the forms they handed you.
Most of the process is digitized now instead of using the old multi-copy forms.
Fingerprinting is all digital now. Before, only out-of-state registrations used the digital for submission to the national stolen firearms database. All other "normal" permit applicants used ink printing.
So, you can pretend online appointments made the difference, but we all know that's not the case.
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There are other factors:
Permit and Registration has been separated into to physically separate areas. No longer have everyone in one line.
Number of officers servicing us has increased -- necessitated to man two areas now.
No longer have to stand in the same, single line to pick up permits. Basically took one line and split it into three: Permit applications, Permit Pickup, and Registration.
Many forms can be printed and completed online now. Before, even if you tried to use the online forms, depending on which officer you got, you probably had to redo them using the forms they handed you.
Most of the process is digitized now instead of using the old multi-copy forms.
Fingerprinting is all digital now. Before, only out-of-state registrations used the digital for submission to the national stolen firearms database. All other "normal" permit applicants used ink printing.
So, you can pretend online appointments made the difference, but we all know that's not the case.
All of those are valid, but to pretend online appointments is not positive is foolish. Having an appointment is still theoretically the shortest line possible for you.
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All of those are valid, but to pretend online appointments is not positive is foolish. Having an appointment is still theoretically the shortest line possible for you.
A 90 day window that is already booked solid is not my idea of "positive."
Nobody cares about what you personally like or dislike. The appointment process has been just one more obstacle put in place to deter gun ownership.
If they really wanted to "help" the situation, why not open up the satellite city hall facilities for permit applications? Would have spread the load among many locations versus trying to manage appointments (that relatively few buyers could actually book) using a system that allowed widespread abuse.
Gun stores selling appointments is no different than having an employee blocking the HPD entrance until you coughed up a hefty $75+ admission fee.
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The appointment system is broken because people don’t show up or they take up multiple time slots/day. If there is a ticket system, there needs to be a way for the system to ensure a person only has one appointment for any given day. Also a standby line for no show or late appointment arrivals . If they are late appointment arrivals, they can go to the end of the standby line or get another appointment. HPD would need to be strict on the lateness. That means there would need to be away for people to check in at HPD. The buffer is 1 min past the appointment. I.e the checkin system clocks a person in at 10:01 for a 10:00, there late, go to the end of the standby line. Lastly, no trading or giving appointment to someone else.
Case in point with the AlohaQ for drivers license. I made an appointment for Thursday 2pm. Later I saw an appointment for Wednesday 1pm, which I wanted. The system knew I already made an appointment for Thursday and canceled it. When I arrived at the DMV, there was someone there to check me in.
If HPD does that then I’ll would be good with an appointment system. The only thing is what would be the time interval. Every 10mins?
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The appointment system is broken because people don’t show up or they take up multiple time slots/day. If there is a ticket system, there needs to be a way for the system to ensure a person only has one appointment for any given day. Also a standby line for no show or late appointment arrivals . If they are late appointment arrivals, they can go to the end of the standby line or get another appointment. HPD would need to be strict on the lateness. That means there would need to be away for people to check in at HPD. The buffer is 1 min past the appointment. I.e the checkin system clocks a person in at 10:01 for a 10:00, there late, go to the end of the standby line. Lastly, no trading or giving appointment to someone else.
Case in point with the AlohaQ for drivers license. I made an appointment for Thursday 2pm. Later I saw an appointment for Wednesday 1pm, which I wanted. The system knew I already made an appointment for Thursday and canceled it. When I arrived at the DMV, there was someone there to check me in.
If HPD does that then I’ll would be good with an appointment system. The only thing is what would be the time interval. Every 10mins?
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That mirrors my sentiments. There are 1000s of ways to properly implement an online appointment booking and management system.
HPD didn't use any of them.
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I went on a Wednesday for standby. They only gave 10 people a stand in line pass. All 10 were done by 10am-1030. There was only one person that had an appointment show up. The others where a no show. I talked to one of the officer doing the PTA and he said that is normal for people not to show up. He also said that if people showed up as walk-in and there was no one with appointments waiting, they would take them. BTW the person giving out the pass is not one of the officers doing the PTA. Also, PTA officers didn’t even ask to see my pass. They waived me in and started asking for paperwork.
Try the Friday standby. Even if your not one of ten, you still might make it in if no appointments show up. Just fall in line after the 10th person.
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I have been buying guns for almost 7 years. This is the best experience I've had when I had an appointment. Many others have said the same. Knowing when to go and not waiting in a needless line is amazing. DMV, etc all use appointments.
Yup I tried to swap and it didn't work. Was still far better overall than previously. I've had many successful appointments with no issues. HPD seemed to be happier too, much more efficient.
More omni solving the problems of the state.
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Aww man. Thats crazy. Sorry you had to make a second trip to get your stuff done. I wonder if i wait a couple weeks, it will get better..
May i ask where you parked? (This is my major problem,no one to help me)
Is the downstairs meters open that early?
Waking up isnt a problem for me. Im usually up by 0100 hours lol.
I parked in that underground municipal parking structure just past Alakea. That early in the morning there are empty metered public stalls. You don't have to feed the meters until 8:30 am. Problem is when you are waiting in line before 8:30 you run the chance you won't get to your car to feed the meter after you get your time slot.
I didn't want to take that chance so I fed it, lol! Ended up I didn't have to. I got my 9:30 time slot and would have had time to go back to feed the meter before 8:30. By the way, They took me in early which is why I was done by 9:30. Either they processed people faster than the 10 minute slots or some people didn't show up.
And yes, the more I think about it, it seems like by October when everything is walk-in (and no government lockdowns) these ridiculous lines will ease. I believe the only reason for this recent clusterf*ck is because the appointment system was just a poor system that resulted in tons of people not getting appointments, and then we all rushed in this past Tuesday and Thursday.
The reason I wanted to get it done asap was because I didn't want to take a chance that our brave, courageous governor will lock down the state again and impose silly mandated restrictions that might affect the already f*cked up HPD firearms system.
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I went on a Wednesday for standby. They only gave 10 people a stand in line pass. All 10 were done by 10am-1030. There was only one person that had an appointment show up. The others where a no show. I talked to one of the officer doing the PTA and he said that is normal for people not to show up. He also said that if people showed up as walk-in and there was no one with appointments waiting, they would take them. BTW the person giving out the pass is not one of the officers doing the PTA. Also, PTA officers didn’t even ask to see my pass. They waived me in and started asking for paperwork.
Try the Friday standby. Even if your not one of ten, you still might make it in if no appointments show up. Just fall in line after the 10th person.
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Whats the "stand by line?"
I mean, its self explanatory but where would a person stand in line for this? (I assume pta side)
What time does a person go to hpd for this?
Would i have to stay all day?
Is this everyday?
Sorry for asking alot, i just never heard of this for PTA. The only thing i ever saw out of the ordinary was when i went to register my rifle back in dec 2020. A guy came a week earlier than he was suppose to but they let him register it right after me cause it was empty. Which is cool, id do it too. Better than being bored
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Whats the "stand by line?"
I mean, its self explanatory but where would a person stand in line for this? (I assume pta side)
What time does a person go to hpd for this?
Would i have to stay all day?
Is this everyday?
Sorry for asking alot, i just never heard of this for PTA. The only thing i ever saw out of the ordinary was when i went to register my rifle back in dec 2020. A guy came a week earlier than he was suppose to but they let him register it right after me cause it was empty. Which is cool, id do it too. Better than being bored
MWF is walk in. There is a line that starts at 7am and HPD allows the first 50 people to sign the roster and get a pass. Then at 8am those 50 people line up at the PTA side and HPD starts processing.
TuThur is stand by. People with online reservation for that day/time have priority. Standby people line up at 7am and HPD will allow the first 10 people to get a pass. At 8am the 10 people line up at the PTA side and wait. If a person with a reservation doesn’t show, HPD takes a person in the standby line.
People in the walk in and standby started lining up at 600am. I arrived at 630 Wednesday standby and I was number 5. I heard the walk in filled up by 730am. HPD doesn’t start giving out pass until 7am.
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MWF is walk in. There is a line that starts at 7am and HPD allows the first 50 people to sign the roster and get a pass. Then at 8am those 50 people line up at the PTA side and HPD starts processing.
TuThur is stand by. People with online reservation for that day/time have priority. Standby people line up at 7am and HPD will allow the first 10 people to get a pass. At 8am the 10 people line up at the PTA side and wait. If a person with a reservation doesn’t show, HPD takes a person in the standby line.
People in the walk in and standby started lining up at 600am. I arrived at 630 Wednesday standby and I was number 5. I heard the walk in filled up by 730am. HPD doesn’t start giving out pass until 7am.
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Wait. I thought tuesdays and thursdays was the walk in
And..
Mon. Wed. Fri. Is suppose to be stand by?
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Wait. I thought tuesdays and thursdays was the walk in
And..
Mon. Wed. Fri. Is suppose to be stand by?
https://www.honolulupd.org/information/firearms/
you are correct, thats what HPD website says
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Thank god.
I just wanted to clarify so if other people decide to read this thread then they wont go on the wrong days.
I actually called them bout 10 minutes ago asking bout something else. Lol
I think deros just made a simple mistake.. all good tho :shaka:
Thank you everyone for your insight, intel and time for answering my questions!! :thumbsup:
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MWF is walk in. There is a line that starts at 7am and HPD allows the first 50 people to sign the roster and get a pass. Then at 8am those 50 people line up at the PTA side and HPD starts processing.
TuThur is stand by. People with online reservation for that day/time have priority. Standby people line up at 7am and HPD will allow the first 10 people to get a pass. At 8am the 10 people line up at the PTA side and wait. If a person with a reservation doesn’t show, HPD takes a person in the standby line.
People in the walk in and standby started lining up at 600am. I arrived at 630 Wednesday standby and I was number 5. I heard the walk in filled up by 730am. HPD doesn’t start giving out pass until 7am.
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Wait. I thought tuesdays and thursdays was the walk in
And..
Mon. Wed. Fri. Is suppose to be stand by?
I had it back wards.
MWF stand by.
Tue/Thurs walkin.
My days all meld in to one long day.
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You know what was sad besides all those people (me included on tuesday) that was turned away so early in the morning? The fact that people showed up after 7 when all the disappointed people left. They stood innocently in the PTA line with their paperwork not knowing that they needed a time slot.
They probably was so happy and excited seeing only a few people (the time slot holders) then were devastated when the PTA cop came out and denied them and told them to come another day and to come early to get a chance.
On Thursday while I was in the PTA line (already had my time slot) two people were waiting with me. I thought they had time slots and had to endure their sad faces when the PTA cop denied them access.
I cannot believe law abiding citizens are being put through this crazy meat grinder just to exercise their 2a rights.
But I am happy that, like me, they won't give these anti-gun people the satisfaction of giving up. Of course I am referring to our political leaders, not the cops who are just doing their job.
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You know what was sad besides all those people (me included on tuesday) that was turned away so early in the morning? The fact that people showed up after 7 when all the disappointed people left. They stood innocently in the PTA line with their paperwork not knowing that they needed a time slot.
They probably was so happy and excited seeing only a few people (the time slot holders) then were devastated when the PTA cop came out and denied them and told them to come another day and to come early to get a chance.
On Thursday while I was in the PTA line (already had my time slot) two people were waiting with me. I thought they had time slots and had to endure their sad faces when the PTA cop denied them access.
I cannot believe law abiding citizens are being put through this crazy meat grinder just to exercise their 2a rights.
But I am happy that, like me, they won't give these anti-gun people the satisfaction of giving up. Of course I am referring to our political leaders, not the cops who are just doing their job.
Yup that sucks bro. I would be pissed too.
Deros- all good bro. Everyday is the same for me too. Week after week, month after month, year after year
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If they really wanted to "help" the situation, why not open up the satellite city hall facilities for permit applications?
That would be problematic, as fingerprint machines are not cheap, and they have to be secure enough that your personal identifiable information (PII) is not leaked in any way. All 10 fingers have to be scanned, and it has to be done right. I would not want some junior clerk doing this. The Satellites might be useful on permit applications after the first one, but lawyers and security specialists would need to vet the process.
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That would be problematic, as fingerprint machines are not cheap, and they have to be secure enough that your personal identifiable information (PII) is not leaked in any way. All 10 fingers have to be scanned, and it has to be done right. I would not want some junior clerk doing this. The Satellites might be useful on permit applications after the first one, but lawyers and security specialists would need to vet the process.
Send 1st timers to HPD. Fingerprinting is only done one time.
BTW, fingerprinting is simple. I earned my fingerprint merit badge long before electronic fingerprint machines existed -- all ink and rollers.
I had the local Chief of Police sign off on my merit badge. He was a member of my church and father to two another scouts, so I had an "in". :thumbsup:
Fingerprints can be obtained from anything you touch. I don't see the fear of having your fingerprints "leaked." There are probably "junior clerks" managing your information after it is collected.
The process is already vetted. Just need to replicate what's at HPD to the other locations if fingerprinting machines are going to be made available there.
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Flapp, I had a question about submitting a second PTA application several days after the first one was submitted. Mandatory 14 day investigation on the first application is still in progress. Do I get hit by a second Rapback fee? :wave:
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Flapp, I had a question about submitting a second PTA application several days after the first one was submitted. Mandatory 14 day investigation on the first application is still in progress. Do I get hit by a second Rapback fee? :wave:
Rapback is one time fee.
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Flapp, I had a question about submitting a second PTA application several days after the first one was submitted. Mandatory 14 day investigation on the first application is still in progress. Do I get hit by a second Rapback fee? :wave:
Once you're in the system as having paid for fingerprinting and RAPBACK, all subsequent permit applications are no-cost (at least until they change the system again).
If you think you'll have a problem due to how close together your visits are, just show them your receipt or credit card app with the payment amount. But, I really don't think you'll run into that.
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Once you're in the system as having paid for fingerprinting and RAPBACK, all subsequent permit applications are no-cost (at least until they change the system again).
If you think you'll have a problem due to how close together your visits are, just show them your receipt or credit card app with the payment amount. But, I really don't think you'll run into that.
They write "paid rapback" in the system. Or its checkmarked you paid rapback.
I paid my rapback backbin 2017. Let my permit expire and just did my long guns again last year. On my new (2020) long gun permit they wrote the exact date i paid.. Lol.
So you'll be all good. :thumbsup:
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They write "paid rapback" in the system. Or its checkmarked you paid rapback.
True dat. Went this morning (Sept. 8) and only three people plus one guy with an old appointment wanted to initiate the permit to acquire (PTA) process. Thankfully, I did not have to pay twice for rapback.
It shocked me that over 20 other people wanted to register their weapons. The Labor Day weekend created a mighty big backlog.
I have a question about parking below the police station, on the P3 level. Does the metering system only care about people who use the stalls between 8:30 AM and 4:30 PM? In other words, can you park for free before 8:30 AM?
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True dat. Went this morning (Sept. 8) and only three people plus one guy with an old appointment wanted to initiate the permit to acquire (PTA) process. Thankfully, I did not have to pay twice for rapback.
It shocked me that over 20 other people wanted to register their weapons. The Labor Day weekend created a mighty big backlog.
I have a question about parking below the police station, on the P3 level. Does the metering system only care about people who use the stalls between 8:30 AM and 4:30 PM? In other words, can you park for free before 8:30 AM?
According to Honolulu parking ordinances, HPD has a time limit of 2 hrs for metered parking. Cost is $1.50/hr, so $3.00 max. On-street parking in Honolulu is enforced from Monday to Saturday from 7am to 6 pm. Parking is free on Sunday and State holidays. From what I can find, that ONLY applies to on-street parking, not metered facilities.
Since the HPD garage is off-street, it's up to the police department to set enforcement schedules. The only documentation I see covers permit-decal parking. Those times are 0730-1630.
https://www.honolulu.gov/rep/site/dts/tpd/tpd_docs/Article_23.PDF
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https://www.honolulupd.org/information/firearms/
you are correct, thats what HPD website says
Anyone have experience on least busy day to get PTA? Is walk in or stand by line faster?
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Wow.. just 50 per Tuesday and Thursday only?
Just reading the link and PTA for long guns, does one need to purchase a rifle first? Get the info for the rifle and then apply for a long gun permit? I forgot how this work. I know my long gun permit is expired already 3 years later. I was wanting to apply for another long gun permit before I purchase. I’m planning on ordering online and have it sent to a authorized FFL dealer or a lgs. Then register it when it arrives.
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Wow.. just 50 per Tuesday and Thursday only?
Just reading the link and PTA for long guns, does one need to purchase a rifle first? Get the info for the rifle and then apply for a long gun permit? I forgot how this work. I know my long gun permit is expired already 3 years later. I was wanting to apply for another long gun permit before I purchase. I’m planning on ordering online and have it sent to a authorized FFL dealer or a lgs. Then register it when it arrives.
long guns need to get permit first before buying the gun
but if you order online you can, then the FFL or LGS will hold your rifle until you get your long gun permit. need to show LGS / FFL the long gun permit, and you can take it home that day and take it to register at HPD.
I'm not sure if they set up their online registering yet
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Wow.. just 50 per Tuesday and Thursday only?
Just reading the link and PTA for long guns, does one need to purchase a rifle first? Get the info for the rifle and then apply for a long gun permit? I forgot how this work. I know my long gun permit is expired already 3 years later. I was wanting to apply for another long gun permit before I purchase. I’m planning on ordering online and have it sent to a authorized FFL dealer or a lgs. Then register it when it arrives.
According to HPD website it's been reduced to 40 people per day...
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According to HPD website it's been reduced to 40 people per day...
Good ting (sic) that not that many people have been showing up each day. Only 15 on line today before 0700. Try to schedule two events in one day, like applying for a PTA, and then registering a different weapon at the other office. When you get your numbers, you can have them schedule one appointment at time X, and the second one at X + 25 minutes. Two officers are involved.
I had nothing to do today, since the Yankees failed again in the playoffs. Season over.
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Good ting (sic) that not that many people have been showing up each day. Only 15 on line today before 0700. Try to schedule two events in one day, like applying for a PTA, and then registering a different weapon at the other office. When you get your numbers, you can have them schedule one appointment at time X, and the second one at X + 25 minutes. Two officers are involved.
I had nothing to do today, since the Yankees failed again in the playoffs. Season over.
Don't forget the changes to the registration process. I'm going to wait until the online website is running.
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long guns need to get permit first before buying the gun
but if you order online you can, then the FFL or LGS will hold your rifle until you get your long gun permit. need to show LGS / FFL the long gun permit, and you can take it home that day and take it to register at HPD.
I'm not sure if they set up their online registering yet
Ok thanks brotha.. I’m probably gonna apply first before purchasing since the long gun permit is good for a year. Though I’m not in a rush yet. But since my 7 days a week of work is now back to 5 days. I’ve got some time to apply. Then decide on my purchase. Thanks again! :shaka: :shaka:
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Ok thanks brotha.. I’m probably gonna apply first before purchasing since the long gun permit is good for a year. Though I’m not in a rush yet. But since my 7 days a week of work is now back to 5 days. I’ve got some time to apply. Then decide on my purchase. Thanks again! :shaka: :shaka:
no problem :shaka: