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Title: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Akubone1 on August 31, 2021, 08:56:33 AM
Does anyone know if there’s new restrictions at Kokohead range?  I thought the news said the were going to require proof of vaccination.  Anyone hear that?  What about masks…are they requiring again?
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Shooooots on August 31, 2021, 09:18:31 AM
Mask wasn’t required this weekend.  Silhouette was every other stall.  We just went this weekend.  Not sure about upcoming restrictions
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: stangzilla on August 31, 2021, 09:26:11 AM
I didn't hear that parks are a part of the mask restrictions
i always have a mask with me just in case. 
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Bota-CS1 on August 31, 2021, 10:08:12 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/pMpLMfd.jpg)

From the mayor’s website about the upcoming restrictions where vaccination cards and/or neg covid tests will be required.
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: QUIETShooter on August 31, 2021, 10:43:21 AM
Thing is, will KHSC be deemed an outdoor facility or will some knucklehead deem it an indoor facility just because there's a roof over our head.
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: poke on August 31, 2021, 10:57:08 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/pMpLMfd.jpg)

From the mayor’s website about the upcoming restrictions where vaccination cards and/or neg covid tests will be required.

It says "indoor portions of... shooting ranges" will be restricted. Kokohead is outdoors so it should be good to go  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Glasser on August 31, 2021, 11:09:58 AM
So gotta show your Vaxx passport to the old local Uncle who camps by the restroom?
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: DEROS on August 31, 2021, 11:36:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/pMpLMfd.jpg)

From the mayor’s website about the upcoming restrictions where vaccination cards and/or neg covid tests will be required.
I believe this is for the commercial indoor ranges.  Then again I could be wrong.  In New York, restaurants built enclosed dining rooms on the sidewalk/curbside and that was considered outdoor dining.


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Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Bota-CS1 on August 31, 2021, 02:33:33 PM
Thing is, will KHSC be deemed an outdoor facility or will some knucklehead deem it an indoor facility just because there's a roof over our head.

That’s the million $ question.  The clubs that use the bays and silhouette have made adjustments to their operations, not sure what’ll happen with the rifle or pistol ranges.
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: aaronc5362 on August 31, 2021, 02:57:27 PM
Fucking shit better be considered outdoors otherwise I want a.c. installed at kokohead  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Jl808 on August 31, 2021, 03:11:02 PM
“Shall not be infringed”?
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Glasser on August 31, 2021, 03:33:40 PM
Hmm under Trump gun shops and ranges were marked as essential services for purposes of Fed Law during COVID. Did Biden get around to undoing that?

That might be grounds for lawsuit?
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: stangzilla on August 31, 2021, 03:51:08 PM
last time kokohead followed suit with the parks bc its a park
i suspect this time around it will be the same

shooting clubs may be affected bc that is an outdoor activity
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: DEROS on August 31, 2021, 06:15:57 PM
This is the definition of "Indoors" as written  in Emergency Order NO. 2021-11, 30 Aug 2021


“Indoor” means any space with a roof or overhang that is
enclosed by at least three walls, except that the following
will not be considered an indoor portion: (1) a structure on
the sidewalk or roadway if it is entirely open on the side
facing the sidewalk; and (2) an outdoor dining structure for
individual parties, if it has adequate ventilation to allow for
air circulation.

Kinda of tricky.  The pistol range may be considered "indoor" because it does have a wall of sort in the rear.  However, I would consider the rifle range and club range as outdoor.
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Bota-CS1 on August 31, 2021, 06:40:23 PM
https://www.honolulu.gov/rep/site/may/may_docs/2108156-CCH_Second_Amendment_to_Order_Implementing_Tier_5_certified_-_signed.pdf (https://www.honolulu.gov/rep/site/may/may_docs/2108156-CCH_Second_Amendment_to_Order_Implementing_Tier_5_certified_-_signed.pdf)

I think the key phrase is “covered premises” and how thee order defines them as covered spaces.
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: DEROS on August 31, 2021, 07:02:25 PM
https://www.honolulu.gov/rep/site/may/may_docs/2108156-CCH_Second_Amendment_to_Order_Implementing_Tier_5_certified_-_signed.pdf (https://www.honolulu.gov/rep/site/may/may_docs/2108156-CCH_Second_Amendment_to_Order_Implementing_Tier_5_certified_-_signed.pdf)

I think the key phrase is “covered premises” and how thee order defines them as covered spaces.
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"Covered" in the context of the proclamation means the private or commercial business that are considered included.  So, gun ranges and archery ranges is "covered" by the proclamation, making it a “Covered Premises”.  e.g. not covered in terms of being enclosed with 4 walls and a roof.  To determine if the “Covered premises” must check for COVID Passport, it needs to be considered indoors.  Indoors is define as a roof and 3 walls.
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: stangzilla on September 01, 2021, 11:08:36 AM
So gotta show your Vaxx passport to the old local Uncle who camps by the restroom?

or give him a cigar   :shaka:
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: drck1000 on September 01, 2021, 01:18:06 PM
or give him a cigar   :shaka:
Assuming same guy, I've had some interesting convos with him while on his "perch" outside the restroom as well as on the rifle range.  Cool guy and fun to talk with.  I was gonna buy him some new t-shirts, but I bet he'd wear his broken in ones.   ;D
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: macsak on September 01, 2021, 01:59:00 PM
Assuming same guy, I've had some interesting convos with him while on his "perch" outside the restroom as well as on the rifle range.  Cool guy and fun to talk with.  I was gonna buy him some new t-shirts, but I bet he'd wear his broken in ones.   ;D

unko puka shirt
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: drck1000 on September 01, 2021, 02:00:36 PM
unko puka shirt
ventilation. . .
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 01, 2021, 07:56:39 PM
So gotta show your Vaxx passport to the old local Uncle who camps by the restroom?

or give him a cigar   :shaka:

Assuming same guy, I've had some interesting convos with him while on his "perch" outside the restroom as well as on the rifle range.  Cool guy and fun to talk with.  I was gonna buy him some new t-shirts, but I bet he'd wear his broken in ones.   ;D

Who is this guy?  I'm just curious.  The last time I had a conversation with him he was telling me about all the wild birds in the area and their interaction with him when he arrives, hangs out, then leaves.

I thought he was the range park's supreme security officer grand pooh-bah. (just kidding....) ;)
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: macsak on September 01, 2021, 08:12:07 PM
Who is this guy?  I'm just curious.  The last time I had a conversation with him he was telling me about all the wild birds in the area and their interaction with him when he arrives, hangs out, then leaves.

I thought he was the range park's supreme security officer grand pooh-bah. (just kidding....) ;)

uncle paul...
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: Bota-CS1 on September 01, 2021, 08:23:22 PM
Uncle Paul was one of the first people I met when I started going to the rifle side semi-regularly.  Super nice guy.
Title: Re: Kokohead restrictions
Post by: stangzilla on September 05, 2021, 03:49:14 PM
or give him a cigar   :shaka:

I always bring an extra cigar with me just in case I run into someone that wants one
Often times I give that cigar to Uncle at his perch. He always has a story to tell, or 2, or 3.....
Super cool guy  :shaka: