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Title: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 07:58:47 AM
How has the recent situation on firearm and ammunition availability and pricing affected you? 

Has it slowed down your enjoyment of shooting?  Has it made you put off purchasing of firearms?  If so, what were you looking for?

Has recent events been a wakeup call for you, or those that you know?   

For me, there are probably a few handguns that I may have looked to buy if I hadn't gotten back into the bolt action thing.  The most impact for me has been reloading components.  I was able to get what I needed, but at a higher price and probably not as wide range of components to try.  The latter may actually be a good thing as I forced me to focus on working with what I could get and luckily I was able to get at least decent components.

As for wake up call, not me.  Maybe highlighted things many shooting enthusiasts have know and been saying to folks for many years.  Don't have any close friends that were caught unawares and were scrambling to acquire a firearm. 

Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: stangzilla on September 07, 2021, 08:06:46 AM
Colt Anaconda is top of my list. but cant find anywhere for less than $2k for the 2021 model on shops in the mainland.  locally, haha, good luck!
i would also get a lever action 44 magnum, the Marlin Stainless one with the full rail.  that would be 2nd on my list, but if i would get either one if i saw it at a shop
I still go shooting almost every week, but limit my rounds to 50 centerfire or more if i got some reloads, 100-150 22LR per trip to the range
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 08:14:14 AM
Colt Anaconda is top of my list. but cant find anywhere for less than $2k for the 2021 model on shops in the mainland.  locally, haha, good luck!
i would also get a lever action 44 magnum, the Marlin Stainless one with the full rail.  that would be 2nd on my list, but if i would get either one if i saw it at a shop
I still go shooting almost every week, but limit my rounds to 50 centerfire or more if i got some reloads, 100-150 22LR per trip to the range
A lever action .357 Mag has been on my want list for a while.  Combination of bad timing of gun I want not being in stock, as well as available funding haven't lined up.  That's another gun that I think is still on the list, but behind other gun projects. 

I haven't been shooting as much in the past year or so, but mostly due to COVID and being busy.  I had been shooting, taking shooting classes, etc just before things were shut down due to COVID.  There have been shooting classes being offered here and there, but the folks doing those courses also diversified during COVID and haven't been putting on classes as often. 

When i do go shooting, I have cut back on how much I shoot in any given range day.  Many times I find myself in a "that's enough for today" whereas in the past I typically would have shot more.   :(
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: oldfart on September 07, 2021, 08:21:22 AM
Due to the stupid high prices, Y'all know that I've been attempting to help out parents and newbies with lower-cost ammo.
Sometimes I even give out free ammo.
Especially if it gets kids out to the shooting range.
Obviously if kids don't get interested, everything will collapse in a few years.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: aletheuo137 on September 07, 2021, 08:24:35 AM
How has the recent situation on firearm and ammunition availability and pricing affected you? 

Has it slowed down your enjoyment of shooting?  Has it made you put off purchasing of firearms?  If so, what were you looking for?

Has recent events been a wakeup call for you, or those that you know?   

For me, there are probably a few handguns that I may have looked to buy if I hadn't gotten back into the bolt action thing.  The most impact for me has been reloading components.  I was able to get what I needed, but at a higher price and probably not as wide range of components to try.  The latter may actually be a good thing as I forced me to focus on working with what I could get and luckily I was able to get at least decent components.

As for wake up call, not me.  Maybe highlighted things many shooting enthusiasts have know and been saying to folks for many years.  Don't have any close friends that were caught unawares and were scrambling to acquire a firearm.
A few purchases but more reloading equipment purchased. I was on the fence with reloading but now...

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Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 08:36:58 AM
Due to the stupid high prices, Y'all know that I've been attempting to help out parents and newbies with lower-cost ammo.
Sometimes I even give out free ammo.
Especially if it gets kids out to the shooting range.
Obviously if kids don't get interested, everything will collapse in a few years.
Yeah, and good on you for that.  Need to keep the younger or next generation interested an engaged. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: stangzilla on September 07, 2021, 08:42:54 AM
i am reloading more often than i did before.  try to do something every week.  maybe not completely reloading ammo but at least sort some brass, or deprime, or clean, or something to get some steps out of the way
i also have been hoarding more than ever out of fear of running out of ammo or reloading supplies   :shaka:
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 08:43:27 AM
A few purchases but more reloading equipment purchased. I was on the fence with reloading but now...

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Similar for me.  I got into reloading mostly for my bolt gun, but now that I've gotten going, will be doing reloading for 9 mm now.  Maybe revolver calibers as well eventually.   
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 08:52:37 AM
i am reloading more often than i did before.  try to do something every week.  maybe not completely reloading ammo but at least sort some brass, or deprime, or clean, or something to get some steps out of the way
i also have been hoarding more than ever out of fear of running out of ammo or reloading supplies   :shaka:
That was the plan when I started reloading for rifle.  To have stuff in various stages and get into somewhat of a normal rhythm on reloading, but then I super busy.  Now I'm at the phase of a bunch of brass that was shot and start brass prep process and then planning on loading up some virgin brass for next round of testing and get to once-fired state. 

I've built up a decent amount of reloading supplies and always on the lookout for more.  Even to the point where I have backup components, but still always on the lookout for what I've been using.  Better/match primers are probably the one that I'm always on the lookout for.  I'm "ok" on powder, at least for now, but if powder availability and other components were better, I would likely have expanded more, but need more time for reloading sessions as well as range sessions. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 07, 2021, 09:05:03 AM
For me, it put off shooting as much.  Because knowing what ever I shoot, I have to replace is what gets to me.  Which means paying premium to replace X amount that we shot.  I don't mind buying from LGS, but refuse to buy from gougers via private sale.  So I have been buying from SEC for 9 and 223.

Then there's the 1911 thing.  The delay in the PTA is 1 issue. Then the lack of availability is another.  I checked with multiple LGS and none have either 1911 in stock and have no clue when it will be available.  Young Guns ETA was a year. SEC has a 7 month back order for the P320, so any more uncommon gun would be even longer.  Then the ammo for said 1911 (45), which I don't have at all. Next options would be gun broker or like sites.  But a $1600 M45A1 was going for at cheapest $2K used and $3600 NIB average.  Which at that price, I might as well go Nighthawk or something.

So in the end, we got what we need and anything else can wait until things are back to normal. Who knows when that will happen though. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 09:32:02 AM
1) For me, it put off shooting as much.  Because knowing what ever I shoot, I have to replace is what gets to me.  Which means paying premium to replace X amount that we shot.  I don't mind buying from LGS, but refuse to buy from gougers via private sale.  So I have been buying from SEC for 9 and 223.

2) Then there's the 1911 thing.  The delay in the PTA is 1 issue. Then the lack of availability is another.  I checked with multiple LGS and none have either 1911 in stock and have no clue when it will be available.  Young Guns ETA was a year. SEC has a 7 month back order for the P320, so any more uncommon gun would be even longer.  Then the ammo for said 1911 (45), which I don't have at all. Next options would be gun broker or like sites.  But a $1600 M45A1 was going for at cheapest $2K used and $3600 NIB average.  Which at that price, I might as well go Nighthawk or something.

3) So in the end, we got what we need and anything else can wait until things are back to normal. Who knows when that will happen though.
1) Similar for me.  Replacing what I got, especially since I was lucky to have "geared up" prior COVID, civil unrest, etc.  I had been starting to shoot more often so I had planned ahead to get more ammo, but that's mostly for 9 mm.  Didn't do that for 5.56.223.  I have noticed that pricing at LGS have been going down, so hopeful that it will get to a point where I will start buying again.

2) Yeah, that's another factor.  For $3600, you're still a decent jump into the Nighthawk or Wilson range.  I  :shake: to think that the lead times on one of those are.

3) That's good, but also very much depends on timing.  Even for me, I missed out on the days of the cheap(er) AKs and SKSs and stuff.  9 mm AR is one gun I missed the boat on lesser expensive options and being readily available. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: DEROS on September 07, 2021, 10:36:36 AM
Recent events and the realization that our constitutional rights is being chipped away, woke me up.  (Does that make me Woke?). Anyway…

I told my kid to get a collage loan to pay for his education.  I used the money that I saved over the years for his College to buy more guns and ammo.

Waiting for the Liberals to forgive collage loans before the 2022 mid term.  It’s going to happen because

This is what I bought over the past six months.  Yes, $5-6k pulling ammo and guns where/when I can.

SF AR15, SF 1911 45, SW 40, G17 9;  1000rds 9mm, 500rds 45, 200rds 40cal, 1000rds 5.56. 

When I run out of money, I will raid my second son college fund.  Looking at buying a shotgun to round up my collection and maybe reloading equipment.  Also looking at buying a Staccato C2, especially if SCOTUS rules in favor of public carry.


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Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 11:03:40 AM
Recent events and the realization that our constitutional rights is being chipped away, woke me up.  (Does that make me Woke?). Anyway…

I told my kid to get a collage loan to pay for his education.  I used the money that I saved over the years for his College to buy more guns and ammo.

Waiting for the Liberals to forgive collage loans before the 2022 mid term.  It’s going to happen because

This is what I bought over the past six months.  Yes, $5-6k pulling ammo and guns where/when I can.

SF AR15, SF 1911 45, SW 40, G17 9;  1000rds 9mm, 500rds 45, 200rds 40cal, 1000rds 5.56. 

When I run out of money, I will raid my second son college fund.  Looking at buying a shotgun to round up my collection and maybe reloading equipment.  Also looking at buying a Staccato C2, especially if SCOTUS rules in favor of public carry.


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On the realization of 2a rights and others, I hadn't thought about the recent events in that light, but yeah, I can see that.  Maybe something that many of the folks on here saw over the past many years. 

A shooting buddy has a Staccato, but not sure which one.  He asked if I wanted to try it at a couple of range sessions, but I've resisted.  Don't need any more guns to add to the "want list".  That and I have a few other handguns that I don't shoot that much already, like my CZ Shadow and 1911s.  Those 2011s seem pretty tempting though. 

Not sure if you were serious about the fund source.  But hopefully everything works out for the best. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: macsak on September 07, 2021, 11:48:56 AM
On the realization of 2a rights and others, I hadn't thought about the recent events in that light, but yeah, I can see that.  Maybe something that many of the folks on here saw over the past many years. 

A shooting buddy has a Staccato, but not sure which one.  He asked if I wanted to try it at a couple of range sessions, but I've resisted.  Don't need any more guns to add to the "want list".  That and I have a few other handguns that I don't shoot that much already, like my CZ Shadow and 1911s.  Those 2011s seem pretty tempting though. 

Not sure if you were serious about the fund source.  But hopefully everything works out for the best.

you should gift those to "a friend" who owns no firearms...
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 11:58:26 AM
you should gift those to "a friend" who owns no firearms...
Why?  They only going shoot low and left, and going give those firearms a bad reputation. . .  :rofl:
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: macsak on September 07, 2021, 12:05:44 PM
Why?  They only going shoot low and left, and going give those firearms a bad reputation. . .  :rofl:

heads
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: stangzilla on September 07, 2021, 12:25:20 PM
since covid and some shops limiting the number of customers in the shop, I don't really browse new/used guns too much anymore.  I have this plan of getting in and out of the shop as fast as i can. maybe helps me spend less money on new guns, but I might miss something I really want
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: stangzilla on September 07, 2021, 12:34:24 PM
if Colt is hurting for sales, as I'm sure they are, make more Pythons and Anacondas.
there are plenty of people out there that would buy their overpriced revolvers, including me. 
want to make more money, make more guns.  simple.  they supposed to ramp up their production this summer.  well, summer is over.  Where's my Anaconda???  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 12:52:15 PM
since covid and some shops limiting the number of customers in the shop, I don't really browse new/used guns too much anymore.  I have this plan of getting in and out of the shop as fast as i can. maybe helps me spend less money on new guns, but I might miss something I really want
Yeah, I can see that.  Or just hanging out to talk story a bit.  I used to talk story more to the SEC folks that I used to shoot with often.  I mean I still talk story a bit, but mostly like you just get what I am going there for and get out.  Not really a lurker on used guns, but I would get talked into handling a new handgun or rifle here and there.  That's how one SEC guy got me into buying the CZ Shadow.  I blame him. . . In his defense, he was trying to get me to buy his CZ orange one, but I was resisting.   ;D

if Colt is hurting for sales, as I'm sure they are, make more Pythons and Anacondas.
there are plenty of people out there that would buy their overpriced revolvers, including me. 
want to make more money, make more guns.  simple.  they supposed to ramp up their production this summer.  well, summer is over.  Where's my Anaconda???  :'( :'( :'(
I recall something the older Colt handguns were more handfit or otherwise labor intensive, whereas the new productions were not.  Or at least not as much.  Wonder if that's a supply chain issue of parts.  I know that came into play with a couple of gun related orders over the last year.  One delayed my annealer about 2 months waiting for one part.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: hvybarrels on September 07, 2021, 01:11:21 PM
I've taken what I would have spent on ammo and put it towards garden tools instead. I think I went shooting once last year.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 01:30:07 PM
I've taken what I would have spent on ammo and put it towards garden tools instead. I think I went shooting once last year.
Good point/perspective.  Always good to diversify.  For gun funds, I went from ammo for pistol and AR to bolt action rifle and loading components.  For other stuff, I wasn't in the office over a year, so what I would normally have spent on stuff like gas, or even work attire, were mostly dumped into the bolt action pot.  I did spend some $$$ on updating my tool kits, both shooting as well as overall tool kits.  I now have dedicated tool kits for my range bags, as opposed to just having the tools available at home and having to remember to pack them for specific range days. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 07, 2021, 01:46:43 PM
My biggest regret is taking ammo availability for granted.  Now with it being scarce and more expensive it has affected my decisions on when to go shooting.

Before I used to confidently go to the LGS the day before heading to the range and pick up ammo.  Now I find the ammo is always unavailable or so high priced it kills my interest to go shooting.

Not sure if Covid and the recent riots, protests, and election of a substandard POTUS had anything to do with it but it seems there are a lack of lever guns available to buy.

I've been trying to get my hands on a Marlin 1894 SBL .44 magnum for like, forever.  Of course with all this craziness happening it didn't help that Marlin went down the tubes, Remington took over, and now the Marlin brand is under Ruger.  I figure it will be a while before a "Ruglin" comes out, lol!

However, to my delight, Henry recently came out with their lever guns now featuring side loading gates.  Not having side loading gates were the sole reason I didn't want to own a Henry.  But now, with side loading gates PLUS retaining the tube loading magazine there now is a Lever Gun with the best of both worlds.

I now want a Henry "Dark Series" Big loop lever gun in .44 magnum.  AND a Marlin 1894 SBL. ;D

My current outlook on my shooting hobby is:

1) Buy as much ammo as possible when the price looks right.

2) Shoot half, then buy 1 and 1/2 that amount on my next ammo purchase.

3) Rinse and repeat.

4) Keep looking for the Lever gun(s) of my dreams.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 07, 2021, 03:31:13 PM
if Colt is hurting for sales, as I'm sure they are, make more Pythons and Anacondas.
there are plenty of people out there that would buy their overpriced revolvers, including me. 
want to make more money, make more guns.  simple.  they supposed to ramp up their production this summer.  well, summer is over.  Where's my Anaconda???  :'( :'( :'(
And the m45a1. This would also lower the scalper market ($3200 vs. $1600msrp).

Hope they dont make a keltec shotgun lookalike with colt grips.

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Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 07, 2021, 03:32:23 PM
Good point/perspective.  Always good to diversify.  For gun funds, I went from ammo for pistol and AR to bolt action rifle and loading components.  For other stuff, I wasn't in the office over a year, so what I would normally have spent on stuff like gas, or even work attire, were mostly dumped into the bolt action pot.  I did spend some $$$ on updating my tool kits, both shooting as well as overall tool kits.  I now have dedicated tool kits for my range bags, as opposed to just having the tools available at home and having to remember to pack them for specific range days.
U should buy an EV.

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Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 07, 2021, 03:55:35 PM
One thing I've posted before: use the "Dollar-Cost-Averaging Method" applied to stocks to also buy ammo.

Example 1:
If you buy ammo at $1000/case because your supply was low, do it, but keep an eye out for a better deal afterward.

If you can find the same ammo at $850/case, buy it.  Now you have 2 cases of ammo at an average cost of $925 each.

If you find it again at $700/case, buy it.  Now you've purchased 3 cases at an average cost of $850.

So, even though you spent $1,000 for one case, you've been able to lower the average for that case by $150.  That means 2 of 3 cases were at or cheaper than the average, so overall, you've saved money.

Example 2:
Now, if you modify this slightly, you'll make out even better.

At $1,000/case, get HALF a case.

At $850/case, get a WHOLE case.

At $700/case, get 1-1/2 cases.

You'll have purchased less ammo at the highest prices and more at the lowest prices.  You still wind up with 3 cases, but now 2-1/2 cases were at or below the average price.  Only half a case was purchased at the highest price.


In the second example, you'll have 3 cases for which you paid a total of $2,400.  In the first example, the same 3 cases cost you $2,550.  You saved another $150 by varying the amount of ammo purchased at each price point.

If the market rises again, you can divest yourself of any excess ammo at or above the average price you paid.  Or, just keep a good size stockpile to avoid having to buy at higher prices when (not if) the ammo market skyrockets again.

BTW, you don't have to buy each case/partial case all at once as long as the prices are in the same general range or lower for each purchase.



Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: aletheuo137 on September 07, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
Similar for me.  I got into reloading mostly for my bolt gun, but now that I've gotten going, will be doing reloading for 9 mm now.  Maybe revolver calibers as well eventually.
I'm actually more stocked up for my Hawken 50 cal & Remington 45 cal black powder! I should actually get them out to shoot more.

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Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: groveler on September 07, 2021, 04:08:31 PM
I finally scraped enough money together to buy a pre 1899 model C96 Mauser "Broom handle"
and they have all disappeared!
Ammo is available @ a $1 or more per shot.
Darn!
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: ren on September 07, 2021, 04:39:25 PM
I haven't been into YG for over a year. I waited at the door for 10 minutes - then I left.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 05:31:27 PM
My biggest regret is taking ammo availability for granted.  Now with it being scarce and more expensive it has affected my decisions on when to go shooting.

Before I used to confidently go to the LGS the day before heading to the range and pick up ammo.  Now I find the ammo is always unavailable or so high priced it kills my interest to go shooting.

Not sure if Covid and the recent riots, protests, and election of a substandard POTUS had anything to do with it but it seems there are a lack of lever guns available to buy.

I've been trying to get my hands on a Marlin 1894 SBL .44 magnum for like, forever.  Of course with all this craziness happening it didn't help that Marlin went down the tubes, Remington took over, and now the Marlin brand is under Ruger.  I figure it will be a while before a "Ruglin" comes out, lol!

However, to my delight, Henry recently came out with their lever guns now featuring side loading gates.  Not having side loading gates were the sole reason I didn't want to own a Henry.  But now, with side loading gates PLUS retaining the tube loading magazine there now is a Lever Gun with the best of both worlds.

I now want a Henry "Dark Series" Big loop lever gun in .44 magnum.  AND a Marlin 1894 SBL. ;D

My current outlook on my shooting hobby is:

1) Buy as much ammo as possible when the price looks right.

2) Shoot half, then buy 1 and 1/2 that amount on my next ammo purchase.

3) Rinse and repeat.

4) Keep looking for the Lever gun(s) of my dreams.
Yeah, I hear ya.  Like mentioned above, timing is key.  Thankfully I had gotten into a good practice of stocking up after the 2012/2013 shortage.  That sucked.  Unfortunately, I didn't stock up as much on 5.56/.223, so been having to ration a bit, but not too bad.  I mostly stocked up for bulk pricing, but can understand that that can tie up a bunch of cash that could be used elsewhere, especially those with kids. 

We've had a perfect storm of things as of late. 

I would live a Marlin lever gun.  I had looked into Henrys as well.  I've shot them here and there and they seem like good guns, but always struck me as price for cosmetics/aesthetics than function.  Which is all good, just that I'd rather play less for more focus on function.  Nice guns for sure though. 

Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 05:32:33 PM
U should buy an EV.

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I can, but would have to find place to charge.  The old fogies in my building took all the stalls with the outlets. . .  :-X
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 05:36:47 PM
SNIP

If the market rises again, you can divest yourself of any excess ammo at or above the average price you paid.  Or, just keep a good size stockpile to avoid having to buy at higher prices when (not if) the ammo market skyrockets again.

BTW, you don't have to buy each case/partial case all at once as long as the prices are in the same general range or lower for each purchase.
TLDR. . .

Nah, nah.  I get that.  For the longest time, and still actually, I had a "normal going rate" where I refused to buy ammo.  I bought at higher prices here and there, but rarely and typically paid premium in the 10% range, maybe 20%.  However, when I did find ammo at close to my "normal going rate" I would buy as much as I could, even sometimes spending more than I should have in times when my disposable income situation was a lot tighter. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 05:37:34 PM
I finally scraped enough money together to buy a pre 1899 model C96 Mauser "Broom handle"
and they have all disappeared!
Ammo is available @ a $1 or more per shot.
Darn!
What was the going rate for those? 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 05:39:23 PM
I haven't been into YG for over a year. I waited at the door for 10 minutes - then I left.
Waiting for them to let you in the store? 

I haven't been to YG since the COVID shutdowns last spring.  I would shop there occasionally, but not one of the LGS that I go to regularly. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: ren on September 07, 2021, 05:51:13 PM
Waiting for them to let you in the store? 

I haven't been to YG since the COVID shutdowns last spring.  I would shop there occasionally, but not one of the LGS that I go to regularly.

yes because unlike the range it isn't that far so I could spare 10 minutes but that's it
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: Glasser on September 07, 2021, 06:31:54 PM
Today there was a line of 5 people waiting to get into YGs around 10:30A, the line to drive thru test for COVID by Kaiser was shorter.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: RSN172 on September 07, 2021, 06:42:32 PM
I have what most people (outside of this forum) would consider a large amount of ammo and recently sold 40% of my 223 stock.
Now days I only shoot anything that burns gunpowder if I am trying to kill something or to sight in a gun. My last kill was a pig my neighbor wounded
and ran into the brush by his house. He could hear it, but was afraid to go look for it. Took a sickle and my G19 and hacked my way into some thick brush.
Saw it and killed it with 2 shots.  Those were the only shots I fired with my G19 this year. For me, ammo is too expensive to punch paper with. I need to keep
what I have to gather food and the coming Zombie Apocalypse. I don't even target shoot with my 22LR, even though I have well in excess of 10k rounds of it.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 07, 2021, 06:43:14 PM
Yeah, everytime I go YG get one line to go in.  Sometimes line goes fast, depending on what the guys inside are shopping for.

If just to buy supplies and ammo, then they are in and out pretty fast.

If they shopping for guns then it can take a while.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: macsak on September 07, 2021, 07:42:11 PM
Yeah, I hear ya.  Like mentioned above, timing is key.  Thankfully I had gotten into a good practice of stocking up after the 2012/2013 shortage.  That sucked.  Unfortunately, I didn't stock up as much on 5.56/.223, so been having to ration a bit, but not too bad.  I mostly stocked up for bulk pricing, but can understand that that can tie up a bunch of cash that could be used elsewhere, especially those with kids. 

We've had a perfect storm of things as of late. 

I would live a Marlin lever gun.  I had looked into Henrys as well.  I've shot them here and there and they seem like good guns, but always struck me as price for cosmetics/aesthetics than function.  Which is all good, just that I'd rather play less for more focus on function.  Nice guns for sure though.

if only you had "a friend" that had some spare rifle ammo...
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: Glasser on September 07, 2021, 07:46:58 PM
My  philosophy during this BS has been 'they dont want you to have it' so my answer has been eat top ramen and buy even more.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Yeah, everytime I go YG get one line to go in.  Sometimes line goes fast, depending on what the guys inside are shopping for.

If just to buy supplies and ammo, then they are in and out pretty fast.

If they shopping for guns then it can take a while.
I’ve mostly been to SEC in the past year or so. They have a screening process and I’ve had to wait a little bit until those in the store came out when busy (relatively speaking), but not bad. YG is a larger shop though.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 08:01:44 PM
if only you had "a friend" that had some spare rifle ammo...
“spare” you say?
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: macsak on September 07, 2021, 08:07:10 PM
“spare” you say?

i say nothing
i don't own any firearms nor ammo...
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: Glasser on September 07, 2021, 08:08:28 PM
SEC has a better vibe, the people are awesome, they havent been gouging during these hard times. I have much respect for them.
YG even at the best of times wasnt a great place to shop unless there was a sale on something. But I do give them props for pointing me toward a good gunsmith many many years ago.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 07, 2021, 08:11:47 PM
TLDR. . .

Nah, nah.  I get that.  For the longest time, and still actually, I had a "normal going rate" where I refused to buy ammo.  I bought at higher prices here and there, but rarely and typically paid premium in the 10% range, maybe 20%.  However, when I did find ammo at close to my "normal going rate" I would buy as much as I could, even sometimes spending more than I should have in times when my disposable income situation was a lot tighter.

Yes.  Basically, dollar cost averaging for investments means to set aside a specific amount of cash each month or quarter, then buy as much as that amount can buy.  Over time, you'll have purchased fewer shares at high prices, and more shares at lower prices.  Even if the price you paid at the start equals the price per share when you sell it, you bought more shares for less, and fewer shares for more.  In most cases, you'll make money if you stick to the plan over the long term.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 07, 2021, 08:18:20 PM
Yes.  Basically, dollar cost averaging for investments means to set aside a specific amount of cash each month or quarter, then buy as much as that amount can buy.  Over time, you'll have purchased fewer shares at high prices, and more shares at lower prices.  Even if the price you paid at the start equals the price per share when you sell it, you bought more shares for less, and fewer shares for more.  In most cases, you'll make money if you stick to the plan over the long term.
Sell ammo!?!? Blasphemy!  How dare you!!!!

 :P

 ;D
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: Glasser on September 07, 2021, 08:51:28 PM
One thing I learned from all this is that ammo is a whole nother stock market, when you buy in and when you sell out can reap you a lot of money or make your cry you bought too late or sold too early.

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Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 07, 2021, 10:09:39 PM
I had looked into Henrys as well.  I've shot them here and there and they seem like good guns, but always struck me as price for cosmetics/aesthetics than function.  Which is all good, just that I'd rather play less for more focus on function.  Nice guns for sure though.

Agree.  The Henry's are really nice looking guns.  But truth be told, I never cared for the brass and the prettiness of them in the Golden Boys and Big Boys.  The stock is also beautiful and the workmanship on them is great.

The Henry I'm interested in is more of a practical "tacti-cool" rifle.  It is the dark series with a polymer stock with rails to add optics and such.  Another thing I like about it (besides the obvious side gate) is the over-sized lever.

I hope I can get ahold of either the Marlin or Henry in the near future.  I'm no spring chicken and the sooner the better: more time to enjoy them before I head off to the land of Depends, walkers, and Baby Food. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: Brystont1 on September 07, 2021, 11:50:00 PM
Agree.  The Henry's are really nice looking guns.  But truth be told, I never cared for the brass and the prettiness of them in the Golden Boys and Big Boys.  The stock is also beautiful and the workmanship on them is great.

The Henry I'm interested in is more of a practical "tacti-cool" rifle.  It is the dark series with a polymer stock with rails to add optics and such.  Another thing I like about it (besides the obvious side gate) is the over-sized lever.

I hope I can get ahold of either the Marlin or Henry in the near future.  I'm no spring chicken and the sooner the better: more time to enjoy them before I head off to the land of Depends, walkers, and Baby Food. :thumbsup:

I’ve got a single shot 12 guage from Henry and I absolutely love the thing. Their craftsmanship is just so good. Beautiful wood and awesome fitting. If they came out with an old school SxS or O/U shotgun I’d buy it in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: aletheuo137 on September 08, 2021, 05:13:33 AM
if only you had "a friend" that had some spare rifle ammo...
spare rifle ammo... hypothetical!

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Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 08, 2021, 07:31:03 AM
Agree.  The Henry's are really nice looking guns.  But truth be told, I never cared for the brass and the prettiness of them in the Golden Boys and Big Boys.  The stock is also beautiful and the workmanship on them is great.

The Henry I'm interested in is more of a practical "tacti-cool" rifle.  It is the dark series with a polymer stock with rails to add optics and such.  Another thing I like about it (besides the obvious side gate) is the over-sized lever.

I hope I can get ahold of either the Marlin or Henry in the near future.  I'm no spring chicken and the sooner the better: more time to enjoy them before I head off to the land of Depends, walkers, and Baby Food. :thumbsup:
I also don't care for bling on my guns.  While I do think the appearance of Henrys are nice, they also look like a pain to maintain, as well as all of my guns are shooters, at least so far. 
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: drck1000 on September 08, 2021, 07:31:47 AM
spare rifle ammo... hypothetical!

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figment his/her/its overactive imagination  :P
Title: Re: Impact on Recent Firearm and Ammunition Situation?
Post by: groveler on September 08, 2021, 07:39:11 AM
What was the going rate for those?
$4,000
Any semi auto pistol that doesn't require registration
in any state commands a high price.
I think that is also the going price for a illegal
full auto AK47 on the mainland.
 :geekdanc: