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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: drck1000 on September 17, 2021, 08:53:11 AM
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Saw videos of what was reported as Blangiardi leaving a party for his birthday recently that was attended by 10+ people in an indoor venue. But that's not all, he was lipping off at folks leaving the venue. Wonder how come that's not making the local news? Hmm
Now folks are posting more of his rants on SM. Wonder how that will progress. . .
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None of the political leaders lead by example anymore.
I sincerely hope that video of Rick's birthday bash not only goes viral here in Hawaii but through out the nation.
What this hypocrite did was to further polarize distrust in what the government does and says. Even our idiot POTUS mentioned losing patience with people refusing to take the vaccine. Maybe now the dumbass will see why. His own people talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
Everyday this covid crap is becoming more and more difficult to swallow as a genuine bonafide health threat that is as dangerous as these political weasels make it out to be.
Health threat? Yes. It is.
As dangerous as the gov't makes it out to be? LOL! :rofl:
Too much smoke and mirrors.
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not only honolulu...
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"hypocrite"
3.69, bruh
Saw videos of what was reported as Blangiardi leaving a party for his birthday recently that was attended by 10+ people in an indoor venue. But that's not all, he was lipping off at folks leaving the venue. Wonder how come that's not making the local news? Hmm
Now folks are posting more of his rants on SM. Wonder how that will progress. . .
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not only honolulu...
?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
was that from 1996?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9!_discography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9!_discography)
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"hypocrite"
3.69, bruh
Added the “e”
Video had me :grrr:
Bruh
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https://www.facebook.com/100000151862437/videos/-wait-is-he-hope-he-doesnt-plan-on-driving-/580252243014186/
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None of the political leaders lead by example anymore.
I sincerely hope that video of Rick's birthday bash not only goes viral here in Hawaii but through out the nation.
What this hypocrite did was to further polarize distrust in what the government does and says. Even our idiot POTUS mentioned losing patience with people refusing to take the vaccine. Maybe now the dumbass will see why. His own people talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
Everyday this covid crap is becoming more and more difficult to swallow as a genuine bonafide health threat that is as dangerous as these political weasels make it out to be.
Health threat? Yes. It is.
As dangerous as the gov't makes it out to be? LOL! :rofl:
Too much smoke and mirrors.
I can somewhat understand and even expect the smoke and mirrors thing. It’s his rants that seem to be escalating that gets me. Not even putting up a front. In the video I saw, what appeared to be his security was even “eh, let’s go… sir”
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Rick was never a politician. He IS a tough business man. As such, he tried hard to reopen businesses as fast as possible and to keep them open.
Rick is also a friend of mine as I've known him for over 20 years. He never screwed anybody that didn't deserve it.
When he decided to run for mayor I went to see him and warned him to watch his back because politics is a dirty business.
I told him that people will take every opportunity to smear him. It's easy and anonymous to do with the internet.
I have first hand knowledge of this as I used to work for a great former congressman who was the target of a vicious smear campaign.
So think about what you see and hear nowadays. Ask yourself some basic questions of news reporters....who, what, when, where and why.
Especially the "why" question.
Is it proof of a crime? or a post to draw clicks, or create a buzz, or to attract attention, or reap a monetary benefit?
This is all I'm going to say about this topic.
A lot of you people reading this know who I am so this is not coming from some anonymous internet avatar.
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What I don't agree with was that 1 girl was claiming his son assaulted her. After seeing the vid, she's looking for an excuse. Didn't look like an assault to me.
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OF - I get your point and I know you personally. That said, my point wasn't about him being a politician vs a businessman. I get that he's a tough businessman, he's your friend, and that you have a high opinion of him. While I will say there's always multiple sides to people, my point here is that he is in a position of authority and his actions appear to be escalating. Yeah, I get smear campaigns and such, but it's not just that recent video.
Personally, I don't know him. Though I have many good friends who have been on the other side of the coin. Didn't deserve it? Meh. . . I'll just leave that at that as well.
I didn't say anything about proof of crime or anything to that. I am sharing my observation on that these instances are NOT making it on HNN, KHON, etc. Maybe that's more for media bias topic, but still.
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If you watch the video he was trying to explain that the restaurant was at less than 50 percent capacity and they were……….
I’m thinking he was gonna say following the rules.
Was he and his party ? Probably not.
Be careful of editing though. Goes for a lot of the videos posted on this forum.
Surprised he stopped to talk.
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If you watch the video he was trying to explain that the restaurant was at less than 50 percent capacity and they were……….
I’m thinking he was gonna say following the rules.
Was he and his party ? Probably not.
Be careful of editing though. Goes for a lot of the videos posted on this forum.
Surprised he stopped to talk.
I didn't watch the video posted above. What was reported was greater than "rules allowed". Personally, I couldn't care less about that. It's his actions and reactions when confronted. Do people, or even media push buttons? Sure. That said, I do get the editing, narrative, etc aspect. Even smear campaign. Frankly, I would have posted this if any other individual in a position of power acting that way.
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I didn't watch the video posted above. What was reported was greater than "rules allowed". Personally, I couldn't care less about that. It's his actions and reactions when confronted. Do people, or even media push buttons? Sure. That said, I do get the editing, narrative, etc aspect. Even smear campaign. Frankly, I would have posted this if any other individual in a position of power acting that way.
To be fair, his reactions are because he was not groomed to be a politician. So I give him a break when he snaps at people. In fact I respect the balls he has when he does it. Vs. Kirk who sounds like he's whining when speaking.
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His confrontational manners doesn't concern me quite as much as what seems to be a disregard for the very rules he implemented.
You must lead by example. I know it's harder when you are in the limelight or a public figure but still, if you are going to push an agenda you must lead by example.
What was he thinking before attending the event? F**k it, I'm the mayor?
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To be fair, his reactions are because he was not groomed to be a politician. So I give him a break when he snaps at people. In fact I respect the balls he has when he does it. Vs. Kirk who sounds like he's whining when speaking.
I can see your point. To me, the groomed as a politician is worse. Like Tulsi. Frankly, snap at people all one wants. When it happens, even factoring the why, is telling about people. At least to me.
His confrontational manners doesn't concern me quite as much as what seems to be a disregard for the very rules he implemented.
1) You must lead by example. I know it's harder when you are in the limelight or a public figure but still, if you are going to push an agenda you must lead by example.
What was he thinking before attending the event? 2) F**k it, I'm the mayor?
1) Exactly. To be clear, I'm not saying I am better than him, or anyone.
2) I mean there could be any number of reasons. At least he didn't down play it, going public and saying it was a downscaled event and then proceed with a rager. . .
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Like Augie I had some hope. All that is gone. Back to our regulary scheduled, run-of-the-mill Democratic programming. I wonder if somewhere along the line, he got Al Sharpton shook down like Augie did with his black face skit.
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This is the problem of deciding that leadership is acting like Biden and his 'I am out of patience' approach. You wanna make rules that are almost impossible to live by even for yourself of course people are going to get in your grill.
Real leadership would be statements of guidance and health warnings while spending every other waking moment back stopping the medical profession and getting them any and all available resources they need to stay on top of things.
Crisis is supposed to be a time to bring folks together to instead of pushing them apart and breaking their stuff.
I don't care if they think they are doing it for 'the right reasons' they have been going about it the wrong way the whole time.
No one respects people who come off as a Bully. Even if it's 'for your own good'.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEwQET26pgU
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Hi OF
I have known you for many years and you are a righteous and stand up man.
I also feel that the mayor is probably the best mayor we have had in many years.
The optics of the video are bad. This is a kin to Gavin Newsome's French Laundry
video. This will open the door for some joker to cause all sorts of trouble for us.
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Ideal leadership in my opinion would've assured the People that the govt has this under control and there is no need to worry or fear - a secure place to work and play.
Instead we have a govt that is continuing to push fear and worry in all aspects of governance. I understand that Mayors are under control of Gov Ige in regards to their plans. We need a Mayor to stand up to him. Businesses are suffering and got the short end of this stick.
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This is the problem of deciding that leadership is acting like Biden and his 'I am out of patience' approach. 1) You wanna make rules that are almost impossible to live by even for yourself of course people are going to get in your grill.
Real leadership would be statements of guidance and health warnings while spending every other waking moment back stopping the medical profession and getting them any and all available resources they need to stay on top of things.
Crisis is supposed to be a time to bring folks together to instead of pushing them apart and breaking their stuff.
I don't care if they think they are doing it for 'the right reasons' they have been going about it the wrong way the whole time.
2) No one respects people who come off as a Bully. Even if it's 'for your own good'.
1) I agree. In this case, I can give him, or any Mayor the benefit of the doubt that there are reasons that the public isn't aware of. That said, I am admittedly not the most current on that stuff.
2) That's what I was primarily getting at.
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Hi OF
I have known you for many years and you are a righteous and stand up man.
I also feel that the mayor is probably the best mayor we have had in many years.
The optics of the video are bad. This is a kin to Gavin Newsome's French Laundry
video. This will open the door for some joker to cause all sorts of trouble for us.
Good or bad, I don't have an opinion really. I think he is in a no-win situation politically and in many other ways. That said, can't really think of a mayor where I was like "damn, that guy (or gal) is good". Doesn't help that I have an overall negative opinion of pretty much all politicians. ;D
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Ideal leadership in my opinion would've assured the People that the govt has this under control and there is no need to worry or fear - a secure place to work and play.
Instead we have a govt that is continuing to push fear and worry in all aspects of governance. I understand that Mayors are under control of Gov Ige in regards to their plans. We need a Mayor to stand up to him. Businesses are suffering and got the short end of this stick.
That is a demonstrated and real impact.
Wonder how "I tried to do my best" would be received by those business owners. . .
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He can't win. If he didn't do restrictions covid continues to spike, hospitals get full and everyone gets angry. 🙄
Covid restricts/solving is more important to many than other issues so this is a smart play.
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I've been to the ER on several occasions and to different hospitals, there wasn't a time when they weren't full. This was in 2012 to 2019. I was sitting next to people who tried to commit suicide to people that had a tooth ache. Listening to someone get stitches on their wrist was excruciating. Listening to a patient who was in the ER because they forgot to take their meds and order the ER nurse around was very infuriating. A big issue was that people with no insurance would go straight to the ER because hospitals don't turn people away. That's the problem.
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I've been to the ER on several occasions and to different hospitals, there wasn't a time when they weren't full. This was in 2012 to 2019. I was sitting next to people who tried to commit suicide to people that had a tooth ache. Listening to someone get stitches on their wrist was excruciating. Listening to a patient who was in the ER because they forgot to take their meds and order the ER nurse around was very infuriating. A big issue was that people with no insurance would go straight to the ER because hospitals don't turn people away. That's the problem.
My Kaiser plan kept experimenting with higher and lower co-pays for ER visits. Higher co-pays were intended to keep the non-urgent cases away so they would opt for the less expensive office visit. Lower co-pays were supposed to be a way of not "penalizing" those who really needed to seek urgent care. Hard to find a balance.
The telephone Advice Nurse service has helped quite a bit. You can get expert advice on whether you need to go to the ER, or how you can treat it yourself while making an office appointment. This is rather new-ish, so not everyone uses it -- thus some people will go to the ER first anyway.
Some can't get away during regular hours, so they go after work or when someone is home to watch the kids.
Don't discount the parents who have sick kids. It's difficult to tell sometimes if your kid is super sick or not. Many parents take their kids to the ER just to be safe.
I've gone to the ER mostly because I injured myself and needed something for the pain. I can usually treat a minor injury, but I'm not stockpiling opioids like I'm sure some are.
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Since this pandemic began and a vaccine was introduced I was thinking that because of our geography, once we get this under control our marketing opportunity for tourism would be a "Safe place to vacation" We could've seen a windfall of revenue for the State of Hawaii. But instead we got pushback from people who didn't want to go back to work and all the people still in their basements. We missed that opportunity as other vacation destination advertised that and WELCOMED tourists. Nope not us. Instead the very organization that was created to promote tourism did the opposite. If that's so, why do we keep giving these people/agencies money? Are we that stupid?
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I've been to the ER on several occasions and to different hospitals, there wasn't a time when they weren't full. This was in 2012 to 2019. I was sitting next to people who tried to commit suicide to people that had a tooth ache. Listening to someone get stitches on their wrist was excruciating. Listening to a patient who was in the ER because they forgot to take their meds and order the ER nurse around was very infuriating. A big issue was that people with no insurance would go straight to the ER because hospitals don't turn people away. That's the problem.
Separate topic, but I’ve been to ERs for myself and loved ones where it has been less than half capacity. However, that was Straub and Kuakini. Places like Queens and Pali Momi tended to be full. I think lots of better safe than sorry approaches. With my dad, there were a couple of cases where the “main” physician gave us a “that condition is of interest, but no openings, so head to ER to get checked out if you’re concerned”. In a couple of cases, the condition of interest was enough that my dad was admitted. That said, I can see many “checked you out, you’re good to go”.
Agree somewhat with issues with ER being a safety net for some. I’ve been in the ER a few times when there were frequent fliers returning. One was a homeless guy who had super low blood sugar. EMTs who brought him in mentioned that that wasn’t the first time. Was he doing it on purpose or not? Who knows. When the guy came to, he refused further treatment or food. They suspected, or at least made comments that he was trying to kill himself with insulin.
I thought Urgent Care facilities would help that situation. I’ve never been to one, but family and friends who have been have had mixed feedback and results. Overall, I still believe that the healthcare industry executives have a lot to blame for the issues we see.
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SNIP
Don't discount the parents who have sick kids. It's difficult to tell sometimes if your kid is super sick or not. Many parents take their kids to the ER just to be safe.
I've gone to the ER mostly because I injured myself and needed something for the pain. I can usually treat a minor injury, but I'm not stockpiling opioids like I'm sure some are.
Yeah, I can understand that. Especially with infants. Seems like stuff always comes up after hours.
I’ve only been to the ER once for precaution, but that was after my 4Runner rolled over 4-5 times. I was able to climb out and nothing more than some minor cuts and lots of bruises. I was sitting on the curb when the first fire truck rolled up. The firefighter said based on the look of the scene, that they’d be pulling out a body. Amazed as the durability of that 4Runner.
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Yeah, I can understand that. Especially with infants. Seems like stuff always comes up after hours.
I’ve only been to the ER once for precaution, but that was after my 4Runner rolled over 4-5 times. I was able to climb out and nothing more than some minor cuts and lots of bruises. I was sitting on the curb when the first fire truck rolled up. The firefighter said based on the look of the scene, that they’d be pulling out a body. Amazed as the durability of that 4Runner.
did you miss a major intersection?
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did you miss a major intersection?
I was rear ended and hopped a curb. . .
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I almost feel sorry for Rick, at least as sorry as one could feel for someone who runs a propaganda organization. My guess is that he surrounds himself with people that agree with him and nobody was willing to point out the obvious of what a horrible idea it is to run for Mayor in a city as corrupt as Honolulu during a time of populist outrage. Now he is stuck to a bunch of swamp creatures who are not long for this world, and his only hope is to go full-on Trump wild card populist, but he just does not have it in him. He knows what the machine would do to him in revenge, and his whole calculation to run in the first place was was probably something along the lines of swooping in on the tail end of a mild pandemic and looking like a big hero.
Imagine his disappointment
"But they were supposed to love me!"
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Keith would have been way worst.
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Keith would have been way worst.
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INB4 incoming correction police
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I was rear ended and hopped a curb. . .
because it's really scary to be riding with someone who almost misses the largest intersection on that side of the island...
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INB4 incoming correction police
i only correct people who try to silverback about their high school and GPA...
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because it's really scary to be riding with someone who almost misses the largest intersection on that side of the island...
Almost is generous, but anyways. . .
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Almost is generous, but anyways. . .
allegedly...
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Saw videos of what was reported as Blangiardi leaving a party for his birthday recently that was attended by 10+ people in an indoor venue. But that's not all, he was lipping off at folks leaving the venue. Wonder how come that's not making the local news? Hmm
Now folks are posting more of his rants on SM. Wonder how that will progress. . .
Just saw the video on Info Wars today... what an asshole. "Rules for thee but not for me"
https://www.banned.video/watch?id=6147fcaaaf548d0d63f29ac7
Go to 59:53
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Just saw the video on Info Wars today... what an asshole. "Rules for thee but not for me"
https://www.banned.video/watch?id=6147fcaaaf548d0d63f29ac7
Go to 59:53
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Have not noticed much of a lockdown.
I've been going shooting at khsc almost every weekend for the last few years.
City is restarting parks dept classes
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/09/18/tai-chi-archery-city-resume-parks-recreation-classes-oahu-residents/
Daughter goes to college classes and works part time in Waikiki. She says the place is busy all day long.
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Have not noticed much of a lockdown.
I've been going shooting at khsc almost every weekend for the last few years.
City is restarting parks dept classes
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/09/18/tai-chi-archery-city-resume-parks-recreation-classes-oahu-residents/
Daughter goes to college classes and works part time in Waikiki. She says the place is busy all day long.
You're lucky. For us, we travel 2x a year. But due to Taiwans lockdown, we were unable to go. So then we would usually go to Vegas 2x a year. But due having to test before returning home, we didn't. Because we test positive, then we have to stay up there for min 10 more days. Which would cost thousands. But what about coming back without testing and just quarantining for 10 days (sarcastic voice), that's an option. NO it's not because I cannot take 3 weeks off from work. So not being able to travel freely, really sucks. But now that I'm vaxxed, I can. That was until my work now requires a negative test 3 days after landing. Which means we would have to cut our vacation short from 8 days to 4-5 days, knowing that I cannot come into the office yet. Already had 1 coworker test positive after landing. She's been out at least 4 weeks now, which includes the 1 week she was in Portland. We need to renew our CCW, so a 3-4 day trip to Vegas is being planned. Prob around Thanksgiving, that way we come back the day b4 and I have the min 3 days to test.
Other than that, it's not that much of an interruption of our daily lives, we choose not to dine in and go to BBQ's anyways. But now with this vaxx passport, even though vaxxed, I do not agree with it at all.
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Just saw the video on Info Wars today... what an asshole. "Rules for thee but not for me"
https://www.banned.video/watch?id=6147fcaaaf548d0d63f29ac7
Go to 59:53
That commentary was a bit extreme and yeah, I get for views/hits/etc. If one (anyone really) is not following the restrictions that they put forth, then one is a hypocrite. Are people reacting harshly? Yes. Are they overreacting? Maybe, but that's not for me to judge. That said, and my point is if you break the rules, face the consequences. In this case, backlash from the community. Is it some smear campaign like Cec Heftel back in the day? I dunno, but wasn't my point (that ending part wasn't meant for you in particular poke).
https://www.oneoahu.org/reopening-strategy (https://www.oneoahu.org/reopening-strategy)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLjwEodCmT4
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[snipped] ...
That said, and my point is if you break the rules, face the consequences. In this case, backlash from the community.
... [snipped more]
IMO, community backlash is not the only consequence I'd expect. Public officials who do wrong deserve that even if they avoid punitive actions.
If you or I were to do the same thing, or try to, what would be the consequences?
Would the venue manager turn away everyone who exceeded the limit of attendees?
Would the group be asked to leave if they exceeded the limit after the manager tells them they are breaking the rules?
Would the Cops be called?
Would the manager/owner be fined for breaking the rules? Issued a summons to appear in front of a judge?
Whatever the prescribed punishments are for someone who knowingly and willingly violates COVID rules -- that's the appropriate consequence. As the person who signed the order to enact the rules, arguing he didn't know would be dishonest.
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IMO, community backlash is not the only consequence I'd expect. Public officials who do wrong deserve that even if they avoid punitive actions.
If you or I were to do the same thing, or try to, what would be the consequences?
Would the venue manager turn away everyone who exceeded the limit of attendees?
Would the group be asked to leave if they exceeded the limit after the manager tells them they are breaking the rules?
Would the Cops be called?
Would the manager/owner be fined for breaking the rules? Issued a summons to appear in front of a judge?
Whatever the prescribed punishments are for someone who knowingly and willingly violates COVID rules -- that's the appropriate consequence. As the person who signed the order to enact the rules, arguing he didn't know would be dishonest.
Didn't think about it that deeply (to be honest). If you or I would do the same? I would say up to us to weigh the risks/consequences and act accordingly. In that case, I wouldn't expect the venue to turn them away, report, etc. Personally, I'm not for heavy handed consequences. That he had a party of 23 isn't that big a deal, at least not the point I was getting at. It was his reaction, as well as others that have been surfacing on him. I tried to find some that I could post, but couldn't. Yet.
Are those videos biased? I bet. I'm not that naive to believe everything I see on the web/social media. That said, another side point was why aren't those instances getting coverage locally? :hmm:
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Didn't think about it that deeply (to be honest). If you or I would do the same? I would say up to us to weigh the risks/consequences and act accordingly. In that case, I wouldn't expect the venue to turn them away, report, etc. Personally, I'm not for heavy handed consequences. That he had a party of 23 isn't that big a deal, at least not the point I was getting at. It was his reaction, as well as others that have been surfacing on him. I tried to find some that I could post, but couldn't. Yet.
Are those videos biased? I bet. I'm not that naive to believe everything I see on the web/social media. That said, another side point was why aren't those instances getting coverage locally? :hmm:
Is it possible the mayor and the media are scratching each others backs, being that he's a long-time player in that industry?
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Is it possible the mayor and the media are scratching each others backs, being that he's a long-time player in that industry?
What?!?!
No way hose A. . .
[sarcasm\]
Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was "wandering" about. Maybe not scratching each others backs, although highly possible or even probable. Could be any range of explanations. Just observing that coverage isn't there. May very well be that the media did their due diligence and found the "reports" to be unfounded. That hasn't stopped them in other instances, but I digress. . .
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What?!?!
No way hose A. . .
[sarcasm\]
Yeah, that's along the lines of what I was "wandering" about. Maybe not scratching each others backs, although highly possible or even probable. Could be any range of explanations. Just observing that coverage isn't there. May very well be that the media did their due diligence and found the "reports" to be unfounded. That hasn't stopped them in other instances, but I digress. . .
If the local news media wanted to be professional, they could have aired the story's highlights, then included comments from the mayor, his staff, etc. -- assuming they found the reports to be unfounded.
That would not only be covering a story of public interest, but also help the public understand when most are stumbling upon online. If they stay silent, we only get the "unfounded" side of the story.
I think the news media has a duty to inform the public whenever an event like this happens. They need to do the research they are paying their staff to do and give us the full story.
I think professional reports have become lazy. They can no longer be first with the big exclusive, so they spend their time browsing the Web.
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If the local news media wanted to be professional, they could have aired the story's highlights, then included comments from the mayor, his staff, etc. -- assuming they found the reports to be unfounded.
That would not only be covering a story of public interest, but also help the public understand when most are stumbling upon online. If they stay silent, we only get the "unfounded" side of the story.
I think the news media has a duty to inform the public whenever an event like this happens. They need to do the research they are paying their staff to do and give us the full story.
I think professional reports have become lazy. They can no longer be first with the big exclusive, so they spend their time browsing the Web.
I agree. Seems more about (and IMO has long been) being first to break a story, facts be damned. Saw is especially with active shooter or other "tragedies". Yeah, different context, but still interesting. At least to me.
I don't disagree with you BTW (on the other stuff).
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see what you guys did....
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/09/21/live-honolulus-mayor-discuss-changes-gathering-rules-tier-system/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/09/21/live-honolulus-mayor-discuss-changes-gathering-rules-tier-system/)
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After being called out for violating his own mandates, Mayor Rick Blangiardi has declared the restrictions he just violated recently will be extended to October 19th.
An amazing, unbelievable, depressing, and saddening situation all rolled into one. Lots of people are becoming numb to what is happening all around us.
But there is still a bunch of us out there, holding on to hope and change for the good, who are suffering the pain of death by a thousand cuts.......one by one, the gov't is relentless.
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If you watch the video he was trying to explain that the restaurant was at less than 50 percent capacity and they were……….
I’m thinking he was gonna say following the rules.
Was he and his party ? Probably not.
Be careful of editing though. Goes for a lot of the videos posted on this forum.
Surprised he stopped to talk.
Good points to stop and think about. I don't know him personally but one thing I liked was that he didn't come from the politician world.
Every once in a while I have had to deal with a person who doesn't really want an answer to their question, they just want to argue and make it look good for themselves. And for these people it isn't hard to make an exaggerated claim or post a picture without context.
I would not envy the position he is in, really damned if he does, damned if he doesn't type of situation with covid.
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I still think the The birthday party at the restaurant was wrong for him to attend. He should have known better and not attend.
I have a feeling he didn't think there were people out there waiting for him to slip up. Because there is no reason to think Mayor Rick didn't know that what he was doing was wrong.
He knew and he got caught.
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see what you guys did....
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/09/21/live-honolulus-mayor-discuss-changes-gathering-rules-tier-system/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2021/09/21/live-honolulus-mayor-discuss-changes-gathering-rules-tier-system/)
Vague enough for whatever they feel like.
It's a permanent crisis to exploit, just like the war on terror.
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I still think the The birthday party at the restaurant was wrong for him to attend. He should have known better and not attend.
I have a feeling he didn't think there were people out there waiting for him to slip up. Because there is no reason to think Mayor Rick didn't know what he was doing was wrong.
He knew and he got caught.
Yep. Birthday parties are not the same as a Holiday get-together. They were there to give gifts to and make nice speeches about an individual. It would be on that individual (The Mayor) to step up and request that he not be the reason for people gathering -- even if it's a "legal" size group.
It seems to be a very selfish act, given the party was in his honor. It's likely the main reason he's defensive. He can't legitimately blame anyone but himself.
Birthdays to do not require a party with lots of friends. If the friends did it as a surprise, he still could have told his friends ahead of time he doesn't want a party, and that the reasons are complicated by his government position. They would have found another way to celebrate, I'm sure.
Such a major blunder precipitated by such a minor cause -- and totally avoidable.
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Birthdays to do not require a party with lots of friends. If the friends did it as a surprise, he still could have told his friends ahead of time he doesn't want a party, and that the reasons are complicated by his government position. They would have found another way to celebrate, I'm sure.
Maybe it was a surprise, but his friends also think the rules don't apply to them.
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Yep. Birthday parties are not the same as a Holiday get-together. They were there to give gifts to and make nice speeches about an individual. It would be on that individual (The Mayor) to step up and request that he not be the reason for people gathering -- even if it's a "legal" size group.
It seems to be a very selfish act, given the party was in his honor. It's likely the main reason he's defensive. He can't legitimately blame anyone but himself.
Birthdays to do not require a party with lots of friends. If the friends did it as a surprise, he still could have told his friends ahead of time he doesn't want a party, and that the reasons are complicated by his government position. They would have found another way to celebrate, I'm sure.
Such a major blunder precipitated by such a minor cause -- and totally avoidable.
You brought up a good point about it might have been a surprise party he was unaware of. It is a possibility that escaped me which might exonerate Rick to some degree.
However, the prudent thing in that scenario is to thank everyone involved, then excuse himself and explain why he is excusing himself. Then if confronted by anyone outside after leaving he can say he had no knowledge of the event and did the next best thing.
But to me it looked like he got caught with his pants down, unfortunately.
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Maybe it was a surprise, but his friends also think the rules don't apply to them.
Yeah, these kinds of incidents make me think that while government officials are "talking the talk" they are winking to their friends on the side.
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Yeah, these kinds of incidents make me think that while government officials are "talking the talk" they are winking to their friends on the side.
I mean vid of DOCTOR Green eating also same thing. Did he enforce that his friends weren't wearing a mask as they were not eating and hugging instead? No he didn't.
And if it was a surprise and I was the attendee, I would understand if Rick said he has to leave and stuff like that.
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I had a friend who held his kids grad party.
Less than 50% capacity at the restaurant and no more than ten at a table. (Each “party”.)
What did he violate exactly ?
I’m not defending him or saying he didn’t set a bad example.
Just seeing where this crucifixation is coming from.
(No I didn’t spell it wrong.)
If you got the money there is work arounds.
Green. Whole new game. In my mind.
Just cause I’m not a fan of the guy, which is to say I can’t stand the guy.
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Does the proc say 10 per table or 10 per party/group?
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Good question.
That’s why party is in quotes.
My friend could do it because each table was a “party/group”
But no violation.
End around.
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Does the proc say 10 per table or 10 per party/group?
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Think of it as 10 people are exempt from social distancing. Doesn’t matter if it’s table or group. If “group” or “party” of 20 people come into a restaurant the party needs to be separated into 2 parties of 10 people and they need to socially distance.
I work in Waikiki and we deal with this shit every night.
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Think of it as 10 people are exempt from social distancing. Doesn’t matter if it’s table or group. If “group” or “party” of 20 people come into a restaurant the party needs to be separated into 2 parties of 10 people and they need to socially distance.
I work in Waikiki and we deal with this shit every night.
Mayor used his own loophole. So shame on him.
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I still think the The birthday party at the restaurant was wrong for him to attend. He should have known better and not attend.
I have a feeling he didn't think there were people out there waiting for him to slip up. Because there is no reason to think Mayor Rick didn't know that what he was doing was wrong.
He knew and he got caught.
I don't know whether he actually violated any of the rules in place, maybe the party managed to stay within the bounds of the various regulations, but I don't know since I wasn't there
I do think that if I were in his position that I would have just avoided the party because even if I managed to stay within the lines the optics could look bad and I would know that my detractors would purposefully misrepresent what happened.
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I don't know whether he actually violated any of the rules in place, maybe the party managed to stay within the bounds of the various regulations, but I don't know since I wasn't there
I do think that if I were in his position that I would have just avoided the party because even if I managed to stay within the lines the optics could look bad and I would know that my detractors would purposefully misrepresent what happened.
When youre used to being the guy in charge and not take orders from anyone for years, you dont think like this.
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Mayor used his own loophole. So shame on him.
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Exactly, he may not have technically broken his own rules but those rules are designed to limit large gatherings and make it difficult to have parties. He just showed how full of shit those rules are.
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In a weird way he’s kinda Trumpian.
Think about it.
Could be good.
I’m afraid he’s gonna get sucked into the vortex of Hawaii political culture though.
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As long as you are rich enough to rent out an entire restaurant you should be fine
Everyone else can go eat cake
(https://s2.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/d/3/2f215f4b43e5ce2ce58d1c7c1b923e2d1c19f4ba172b8e82894299bd5806d9/6011300_f520.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fusercontent1.hubstatic.com%2F6011300_f520.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
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Did they ever say where he was eating?
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a Karen from civil beat says different
https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/09/lee-cataluna-mayor-blangiardis-surprisingly-un-trumpy-style/
In a weird way he’s kinda Trumpian.
Think about it.
Could be good.
I’m afraid he’s gonna get sucked into the vortex of Hawaii political culture though.
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a Karen from civil beat says different
https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/09/lee-cataluna-mayor-blangiardis-surprisingly-un-trumpy-style/
she's divisive, dumb and underwhelming
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Cataluna
:wtf: Was that?
He’s in with the Dem and Lib machine. Apparently. Keep watch. She’s sucking him into the vortex.
Some people were seeing my connection in his recent actions and she’s trying to put the kibosh on it.
She should be his publicist. Spun everything positive.
No mention of birthday party though. :wacko:
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Cataluna's columns are like watching an episode of Seinfeld - 'a show about nothing'.
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Our mayor is in good company as the mayor of San Francisco also got caught violating her own mask rules.
She basically doubled down, saying she's not going to wear a mask while "eating and drinking," and that we don't need "Fun Police."
Um, those are HER RULES, not some "Fun Police" rules.
The videos show her clapping and dancing to the music in a room PACKED with other unmasked people dancing.
Trust what she says -- not your lying eyes!
San Francisco mayor defiant after caught maskless in
nightclub despite mandate: Don’t need 'fun police’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/san-francisco-mayor-defiant-after-caught-maskless-in-nightclub-despite-mandate-don-e2-80-99t-need-fun-police-e2-80-99/ar-AAOzMoU
VIDEO: The SF Mayor is the woman behind everyone against the brick wall raising her right hand and constantly bobbing back and forth (not the one taking video on her phone).
https://youtu.be/0WWnNpyMfy4
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Our mayor is in good company as the mayor of San Francisco also got caught violating her own mask rules.
She basically doubled down, saying she's not going to wear a mask while "eating and drinking," and that we don't need "Fun Police."
Um, those are HER RULES, not some "Fun Police" rules.
The videos show her clapping and dancing to the music in a room PACKED with other unmasked people dancing.
Trust what she says -- not your lying eyes!
San Francisco mayor defiant after caught maskless in
nightclub despite mandate: Don’t need 'fun police’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/san-francisco-mayor-defiant-after-caught-maskless-in-nightclub-despite-mandate-don-e2-80-99t-need-fun-police-e2-80-99/ar-AAOzMoU
VIDEO: The SF Mayor is the woman behind everyone against the brick wall raising her right hand and constantly bobbing back and forth (not the one taking video on her phone).
https://youtu.be/0WWnNpyMfy4
Fake news media got her back too.
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When youre used to being the guy in charge and not take orders from anyone for years, you dont think like this.
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Maybe I would make a good mayor then
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Our mayor is in good company as the mayor of San Francisco also got caught violating her own mask rules.
She basically doubled down, saying she's not going to wear a mask while "eating and drinking," and that we don't need "Fun Police."
Um, those are HER RULES, not some "Fun Police" rules.
The videos show her clapping and dancing to the music in a room PACKED with other unmasked people dancing.
Trust what she says -- not your lying eyes!
San Francisco mayor defiant after caught maskless in
nightclub despite mandate: Don’t need 'fun police’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/san-francisco-mayor-defiant-after-caught-maskless-in-nightclub-despite-mandate-don-e2-80-99t-need-fun-police-e2-80-99/ar-AAOzMoU
VIDEO: The SF Mayor is the woman behind everyone against the brick wall raising her right hand and constantly bobbing back and forth (not the one taking video on her phone).
https://youtu.be/0WWnNpyMfy4
I rarely call for violence against women.....