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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Phazuka on October 02, 2021, 09:59:03 AM

Title: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: Phazuka on October 02, 2021, 09:59:03 AM
Are there any storage companies that will store firearms and ammo long term?

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Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: kptheplatypus on October 02, 2021, 10:11:04 AM
Use an FFL because you’ll have to pay anyway
Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: Phazuka on October 02, 2021, 10:18:31 AM
Use an FFL because you’ll have to pay anyway
I'm talking about years....to a decade....I also need to store some household goods

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Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: zippz on October 02, 2021, 11:06:53 AM
I'm sure a FFL could do it if the price is right.  $50 per month per gun is what I'd figure at minimum.
Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 02, 2021, 11:37:56 AM
Seems like a rather long time to risk storing firearms.  I can think of half a dozen ways the firearms could be gone.  One potential problem is if you stopped making payments to the storage provider.  After a couple of years nonpayment, they will consider the contract breached and the property abandoned.  They can then sell it to recoup their storage fees.

If you really need to do this, the best option would be to leave them with a friend or relative.  No storage fees (unless you would like to gift one of them as a thank you).  Second best option IMO would be to sell everything and buy replacements in 10 years. 

I don't know the dollar value of the firearms to be stored, nor if any of them are rare/collectible, have sentimental value, or can never be replaced.  Depending on those factors and others, selling and replacing may or may not be an attractive option.  Any losses you take on the selling price and the cost to replace them would be offset by the savings in storage fees.

OGC charges $32/month, and I assume that's per firearm.  ($32 x 120 months) = $3,840.  Then multiply that by the number of guns.  The cost to store your guns for that long will likely exceed the value of the firearms, assuming they aren't valued at over $4,000 each.

As for the ammo, it's better to sell it.  It's only going to be 10 years older by the time you retrieve it.  Any extra money you spend replacing it, based on what you sell it for and what it costs in the future, would be offset by the savings in storage fees.  Again, if you want to leave it with a friend or relative, that would be a better option than paying for storage.

These are just a few things to consider.  When I first rented a storage locker to clear out some of the stuff from our house, we stored the things we rarely used.  After a year, I spent $1,100 for storage rental.   Between stuffed animals, holiday decorations and other stuff we didn't use that year, I could have taken that $1,100 and bought what I did use as we needed it.  I would have come out even further ahead if I sold what I could instead of hoarding them.  If I rent another locker, it'll be for a very short duration and only if the value of the property greatly exceeds the cost of storage.

How much more are you willing to pay to keep the things you already own?

Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: drck1000 on October 02, 2021, 12:10:57 PM
So you have a trusted relative that has a VERY large back yard?  :hmm:

NVM, don't so that.  Really.  Sarcasm. . .
Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: Phazuka on October 02, 2021, 07:50:44 PM
My storage fee for half of my house in Texas plus my 2000lb safe and 38 firearms is about $150 per month but all the firearms are stored in a climate controlled secure private locker.  I of want to store 6 firearms....I do have a trusted relative.....maybe I should just take them to Texas.....but Hawaii is my family home.

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Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: oldfart on October 02, 2021, 08:21:21 PM
My friend stored his guns at a storage place here and they all got stolen.
Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: Hoplite on October 02, 2021, 09:41:52 PM
The criminals in Hawaii know that all the self storage places here are the easiest burglary spot anywhere.  Police constantly investigating burglaries there with little to no leads.  No one is watching so they always cut the locks steal everything inside and until you find out you’ll be paying to store air. You legally can’t even store it with a friend in Hawaii because you can’t legally loan a gun to anyone for more than a week too. 
Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 02, 2021, 10:59:15 PM
The criminals in Hawaii know that all the self storage places here are the easiest burglary spot anywhere.  Police constantly investigating burglaries there with little to no leads.  No one is watching so they always cut the locks steal everything inside and until you find out you’ll be paying to store air. You legally can’t even store it with a friend in Hawaii because you can’t legally loan a gun to anyone for more than a week too.


This registration BS is why it's better to move them to a free state. 

BTW, you can't loan a handgun for any length of time unless it's at a range or similar facility and then only for the time the borrower is actually shooting.

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§134-5  Possession by licensed hunters and minors; target shooting; game hunting.  (a)  Any person of the age of sixteen years, or over or any person under the age of sixteen years while accompanied by an adult, may carry and use any lawfully acquired rifle or shotgun and suitable ammunition while actually engaged in hunting or target shooting or while going to and from the place of hunting or target shooting; provided that the person has procured a hunting license under chapter 183D, part II.  A hunting license shall not be required for persons engaged in target shooting.

     (b)  A permit shall not be required when any lawfully acquired firearm is lent to a person, including a minor, upon a target range or similar facility for purposes of target shooting; provided that the period of the loan does not exceed the time in which the person actually engages in target shooting upon the premises.

You can loan someone a long gun within the state for 15 days, and out of state for 75 days.
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§134-4  Transfer, possession of firearms.  (a)  No transfer of any rifle having a barrel length of sixteen inches or over or any shotgun having a barrel length of eighteen inches or over, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, registered under prior law or by a prior owner, or unregistered shall be made to any person under the age of eighteen years, except as provided by section 134-5.

     (b)  No person shall possess any firearm that is owned by another, regardless of whether the owner has consented to possession of the firearm, without a permit from the chief of police of the appropriate county, except as provided in subsection (c) and section 134-5.

     (c)  Any lawfully acquired rifle or shotgun may be lent to an adult for use within the State for a period not to exceed fifteen days without a permit; provided that where the rifle or shotgun is to be used outside of the State, the loan may be for a period not to exceed seventy-five days.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0004.htm
Title: Re: Is there a storage company that will store firearms?
Post by: kptheplatypus on October 03, 2021, 06:17:23 AM
My storage fee for half of my house in Texas plus my 2000lb safe and 38 firearms is about $150 per month but all the firearms are stored in a climate controlled secure private locker.  I of want to store 6 firearms....I do have a trusted relative.....maybe I should just take them to Texas.....but Hawaii is my family home.

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Well man, you can either leave them here for sentimental reasons and risk losing them, or you can bring them back to Texas where they will be secured around people you know and trust. Your call, but in my opinion, if you know you can trust them and it wouldn’t cost you to keep them with relatives, you’d be stupid by leaving them in a storage facility the public Joe Schmoe can use as well