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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: kptheplatypus on October 05, 2021, 11:25:26 AM
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OKAY, so. Since so many of you seem to be upset and have no idea how to get this done, I’ll help you out.
Don’t bitch about out of pocket cost - you’re not getting out of that and it is truly an investment info yourself and your personal rights. Take the hit like a man like the rest of us who needed the clearance. Time it right and you’ll have the signed copy letter in hand to take to HPD before you pick up your permit…
Dr. Tom Cook in Honolulu charges ~$300 without insurance for a firearm clearance exam. 10 minute online video call appt with choice to pick up original signed letter in office or get copy emailed to you. HPD accepts the copy, take to registration side and they’ll put it in your application package. Pick up permit on assigned day as long as you get the clearance letter in soon after package submission.
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If you have a medicinal marijuana card, you cannot legally own or possess firearms, so you need to pick which is more important. Some people don’t know, so it’s important we all disburse them helpful info to whoever may need it.
I’d recommend calling and leaving a message asking for a firearm clearance exam appointment, and they’ll call or email you back and send you a packet of info (medical/ psychiatric history, personal info, etc) and fill it out and return via email. They’ll notify you by email or phone when they have an appointment open. You have to pay the exam fee prior to appointment, but that’s to be expected with no-insurance medical appointments. Very easy to do, very easy to give guidance on.
And no, Kaiser and the VA DO NOT do firearm clearances for whatever reason (probably legal/ political liabilities). So use this doctor or his associates and protect and take advantage of your rights. Not sure how long letter is valid for (I assume 1 year) as I have applied and gotten several permits from HPD with the same copy of the letter.
Good luck brothers and sisters and help yourself out.
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I remember 3 years ago, many MJ card holders got a letter from HPD saying they have 30 days to turn in all firearms and ammo. The letter was rescinded with a few days to spare. I think the reason was just because someone has/had the card, doesn't mean they consume MJ. Someone can correct if wrong. So sucks to be the guys who turned in all their stuff early on, idk how difficult it was to get them all back.
But when you fill out the 4473, it ask about narcotics and MJ is a schedule 1 narcotic. (Federal level)
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I remember 3 years ago, many MJ card holders got a letter from HPD saying they have 30 days to turn in all firearms and ammo. The letter was rescinded with a few days to spare. I think the reason was just because someone has/had the card, doesn't mean they consume MJ. Someone can correct if wrong. So sucks to be the guys who turned in all their stuff early on, idk how difficult it was to get them all back.
But when you fill out the 4473, it ask about narcotics and MJ is a schedule 1 narcotic. (Federal level)
As far as I’ve been aware, the most recent ruling for that is that one cannot have firearms if in possession of an active medical MJ card. You have to fill out on the permit application if you have a card, and if you lie, they can find out. So unless you get “lucky”, as far as I’m aware they will either find out from you and deny the permit (I’d assume), or find out through some database and be able to make an arrest. Not sure if they pursue things of that nature, but why risk it?
After all, MJ is still federally illegal in some places and only legal at the state level in many others.
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As far as I’ve been aware, the most recent ruling for that is that one cannot have firearms if in possession of an active medical MJ card. You have to fill out on the permit application if you have a card, and if you lie, they can find out. So unless you get “lucky”, as far as I’m aware they will either find out from you and deny the permit (I’d assume), or find out through some database and be able to make an arrest. Not sure if they pursue things of that nature, but why risk it?
After all, MJ is still federally illegal in some places and only legal at the state level in many others.
I guess HI disregards this ruling because they did rescind their letters. They must just go by what's on the app about actually consuming or possessing schedule 1 narcotics. Not having the ability to buy MJ with the card.
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As far as I’ve been aware, the most recent ruling for that is that one cannot have firearms if in possession of an active medical MJ card. You have to fill out on the permit application if you have a card, and if you lie, they can find out. So unless you get “lucky”, as far as I’m aware they will either find out from you and deny the permit (I’d assume), or find out through some database and be able to make an arrest. Not sure if they pursue things of that nature, but why risk it?
After all, MJ is still federally illegal in some places and only legal at the state level in many others.
MJ is federally illegal (schedule I drug) nationwide
some states allow medial and even recreational use, but it is still federally illegal...
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That HPD one was nuts. Wasn’t just people applying for permits that were getting the letter to turn in.
They were going through the MJ registry and checking them against the registration records.
So no charges but they would confiscate. Scary part is I believe that they were cross checking with Registration. Not just permitting.
As I understand it.
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Imagine, if you will, a state government that completely thumbs its nose at Federal Law by not only allowing the use of medical marijuana, but also the licensing of medical marijuana dispensaries in the state,
Now, imagine that same state enforcing Federal Law prohibiting possession of a firearm if you use medical marijuana.
Selective enforcement, all based on the agenda of the moment.
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MJ is federally illegal (schedule I drug) nationwide
some states allow medial and even recreational use, but it is still federally illegal...
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#hedidntdenyit
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