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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: eyeeatingfish on October 07, 2021, 04:40:51 PM
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This is disturbing
https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/09/01/jaleel-stallings-shot-at-the-mpd-a-jury-acquitted-him-of-wrongdoing/
Edit: Title fixed so Flapp's panties won't be in a bunch
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Nowhere in the story does it mention gang bangers -- real or imagined.
Fake News.
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Stop trolling Flapp.
It’s a pretty good story.
Unmarked cops in an unmarked white van drive by with an open door without insignia, lights or verbal identification open fire with no warning on a group of people in a parking lot after curfew with rubber bullets that are basically 12 gauge.
Sure sounds like gang bangers.
Guy returns fire, with an AK pistol no less, and gets acquitted. (Guy didn’t think bullets were rubber.)
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Stop trolling Flapp.
It’s a pretty good story.
Unmarked cops in an unmarked white van drive by with an open door without insignia, lights or verbal identification open fire with no warning on a group of people in a parking lot after curfew with rubber bullets that are basically 12 gauge.
Sure sounds like gang bangers.
Guy returns fire, with an AK pistol no less, and gets acquitted. (Guy didn’t think bullets were rubber.)
Troll calling me a troll?
And you think you have the right to use the "Pot & Kettle" saying? LOL! Get a grip, Snowflake!
The story mentioned what the victim thought, because city officials planted that thought in the heads of everyone in the city.
Hint: NOT Gang Bangers. Read the WHOLE story.
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I did.
Should I have said sure sounds like white supremacists ?
Rest of the facts remain relatively true.
Guy acquitted for returning fire on unmarked cops in unmarked van doing unannounced drive by shootings. ( with 40 mm rubber bullets.)
Sounds like a fun Saturday night for a bunch of hoodlums.
Until he returned fire.
And I don’t get the snowflake part.
Just lashing out possibly ?
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I did.
Should I have said sure sounds like white supremacists ?
Rest of the facts remain relatively true.
Guy acquitted for returning fire on unmarked cops in unmarked van doing unannounced drive by shootings. ( with 40 mm rubber bullets.)
Sounds like a fun Saturday night for a bunch of hoodlums.
Until he returned fire.
And I don’t get the snowflake part.
Just lashing out possibly ?
If it wasn't prominently displayed in the title, I would have let it go. Facts are funny things.
The facts matter here because the fear created by city officials about non-existent White Supremacists riding around looking for protestors was bogus. I'm sure they knew it, too.
Then again, maybe the Cops WERE the White Supremacists?
Hmmm.....
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If it wasn't prominently displayed in the title, I would have let it go. Facts are funny things.
The facts matter here because the fear created by city officials about non-existent White Supremacists riding around looking for protestors was bogus. I'm sure they knew it, too.
Then again, maybe the Cops WERE the White Supremacists?
Hmmm.....
This is why we can't have nice discussions.
Plus who says white supremacists can't be gang bangers, so racist...
But bottom line: Stop derailing threads just by looking for something to argue over, you are detracting from the important part of the story,
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This is why we can't have nice discussions.
Plus who says white supremacists can't be gang bangers, so racist...
But bottom line: Stop derailing threads just by looking for something to argue over, you are detracting from the important part of the story,
Talk to your fellow troll about engaging me. I just made a very brief correction.
Butthurt much?
The CITY OFFICIALS never mentioned gang members, bangers, or anything close to that.
Show me where I said Whites can't be in gangs. There are plenty of White Supremacist Gangs in the US. Not relevant to the story in any way. Calling me racist? So ignorant.
LOL!!
You create threads for the sole purpose of arguing, Mr. Devil's Advocate. Try peddling your fake "let's stay on topic" whining somewhere else.
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This is why we can't have nice discussions.
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bottom line: Stop derailing threads just by looking for something to argue over, you are detracting from the important part of the story,
Flapp you’re a reverse Umni. And why the personal attacks on people ?
And I’m a snowflake for asking you that question. And a troll for posting this….etc…..
Try Introspection.
You got great Google Fu though.
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Flapp you’re a reverse Umni. And why the personal attacks on people ?
And I’m a snowflake for asking you that question. And a troll for posting this….etc…..
Introspection.
You got great Google Fu though.
Yeah, you shouldn't have posted that, either.
You know that, but you just can't stop the Troll inside of you.
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Rest of the facts remain relatively true.
Guy acquitted for returning fire on unmarked cops in unmarked van doing unannounced drive by shootings. ( with 40 mm rubber bullets.)
Sounds like a fun Saturday night for a bunch of hoodlums.
Until he returned fire.
Without derailing, this is a good issue to discuss.
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Flapp you’re a reverse Umni. And why the personal attacks on people ?
And I’m a snowflake for asking you that question. And a troll for posting this….etc…..
Try Introspection.
You got great Google Fu though.
Omni and Flapp are like the ying and yang to each other.
I could agree with Flapp on something and he would tell me I am wrong just so he could argue.
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Omni and Flapp are like the ying and yang to each other.
I could agree with Flapp on something and he would tell me I am wrong just so he could argue.
Have I ever done that? It's not like you're new to the forum or anything.
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And, for the "record." My original response was intended sarcastically, but I guess nobody is surprised the AHole had to derail the thread with his usual wanabe Moderator attacks on me.
#SarcasmIsHard
#MuchHarderForSome
:geekdanc:
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Rest of the facts remain relatively true.
Guy acquitted for returning fire on unmarked cops in unmarked van doing unannounced drive by shootings. ( with 40 mm rubber bullets.)
Sounds like a fun Saturday night for a bunch of hoodlums.
Until he returned fire.
Without derailing, this is a good issue to discuss.
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40mm rubber boolits?
I can't imagine that being less than lethal. That's like playing shambattle with a sasquatch.
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This is disturbing
https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/09/01/jaleel-stallings-shot-at-the-mpd-a-jury-acquitted-him-of-wrongdoing/
He could have lit up their van with his Draco. Cops are lucky that he showed such restraint.
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40mm rubber boolits?
I can't imagine that being less than lethal. That's like playing shambattle with a sasquatch.
They are probably classified "less lethal." I don't know which brand they used, but rubber bullets in this size have killed when "accidentally" making contact with the head.
I'll see if I can find the exact model used in the court records if available. In the meantime, this is some good info:
https://ustacticalsupply.com/sdi40mmlesslethalmunitions.aspx
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He could have lit up their van with his Draco. Cops are lucky that he showed such restraint.
Yes I agree and for his restraint he is rewarded with kicks and beatings, smh.
This is an example of cops at their worst. America's finest they say? In this case, BULLSHIT.
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Yes I agree and for his restraint he is rewarded with kicks and beatings, smh.
This is an example of cops at their worst. America's finest they say? In this case, BULLSHIT.
And assuming there wasn't just 1 or 2 Swat members in the van that can seat at least 6 people in gear. Did anyone else speak up about this?
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If there were no cameras they would’ve got away clean and he would have been convicted.
And yeah. They’re lucky. He could’ve lit them up.
Kinda cool though. Acquitted for returning fire on outta line cops. Returning fire. Emphasis on returning.
I’m guessing his restraint had a lot to do with his acquittal. Along with all the other messed up crap.
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40mm rubber boolits?
I can't imagine that being less than lethal. That's like playing shambattle with a sasquatch.
They make lots of options in 40mm. Some shoot lots of small rubber bullets, some shoot a less lethal round that is probably more comparable to a foam than solid hard rubber, some other options too.
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This is why cops always need to be cognizant that people may not recognize that they are cops. I think it is probably a hard thing to think about because a cop knows he is a cop and figures since he can see the other person that the other person can see him. Bad vision, bad lighting, something obstructing the uniform, unmarked cars, etc etc are all things that might lead a person being approached by a cop to not realize he is a cop.
In this case firing from an unmarked van like this is so completely stupid someone should be relieved of command or demoted.
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This is why cops always need to be cognizant that people may not recognize that they are cops. I think it is probably a hard thing to think about because a cop knows he is a cop and figures since he can see the other person that the other person can see him. Bad vision, bad lighting, something obstructing the uniform, unmarked cars, etc etc are all things that might lead a person being approached by a cop to not realize he is a cop.
In this case firing from an unmarked van like this is so completely stupid someone should be relieved of command or demoted.
They should be charged with assault and maybe attempted homicide. That's all on top of the beating and violation of his Constitutionally protected rights.
They never announced they were police before firing. No lights, no warnings .... just, "Hit 'm! Hit 'em!"
You can't read through the transcript of the audio and not walk away with the feeling they were on a hunting trip, and loving the hell out of it!
If that's how they think enforcing a curfew is supposed to be done, then heads at the top of the government need to roll (figuratively). The mayor is ultimately responsible, and everyone who thought this was a great way to handle the situation, and those who lied to cover up the whole story, needs to be driving garbage trucks or handing out parking tickets.
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They should be charged with assault and maybe attempted homicide. That's all on top of the beating and violation of his Constitutionally protected rights.
They never announced they were police before firing. No lights, no warnings .... just, "Hit 'm! Hit 'em!"
You can't read through the transcript of the audio and not walk away with the feeling they were on a hunting trip, and loving the hell out of it!
If that's how they think enforcing a curfew is supposed to be done, then heads at the top of the government need to roll (figuratively). The mayor is ultimately responsible, and everyone who thought this was a great way to handle the situation, and those who lied to cover up the whole story, needs to be driving garbage trucks or handing out parking tickets.
I was talking specifically about whoever had the bright idea of driving around in an unmarked vehicle like this, he should be demoted.
The guy who fired the gun and the guy/guys who beat him up should definitely be fired.