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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: Inspector on October 12, 2021, 05:31:46 AM
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THE .22 PISTOL
A MUST-HAVE FOR THE SERIOUS HANDGUNNER
https://gunsmagazine.com/discover/the-22-pistol/
Great article which I fully agree with. So share with me some personal information:
1. How many .22 pistols do you own?
2. What pistol did you start/learn to shoot with?
3. A lot of people own a special .22 pistol that has a special (family?) history to it. Do you have one that is special to you? If so what is the story behind it?
4. What, if any, .22 pistols do you intend to buy? And why?
I’ll start this out:
1. I own 4 .22 pistols. All are made by a company called High Standard. Some of you may or maynot have heard of this company. Three of them are semi autos and one is a western style revolver. Three of them were made in the mid 1970’s and one was made in 1943.
2. I started and learned shooting on a High Standard semi auto. My father bought it for me to learn on. It was the Dura-Matic model which is not a true High Standard as the design was licensed by High Standard to sell as their bottom end .22. This design was the precursor to the Beretta Neos if my memory is correct.
3. I own a High Standard Trophy model with a 7.25” fluted target barrel. It was my father’s favorite gun to go to the range with. I take it out on occasion and I think about the times we went shooting together and he would almost always bring it with him.
4. I am currently in the market for a Ruger MK IV 22/45 Lite version with threaded barrel. I intend to make a project out of it by upgrading the trigger, adding a red dot and adding a suppressor. I want it for when I go out to the desert to plink and to use to bring new people into shooting. The other .22 I want is a Ruger LCP in .22. I hear these are terrific little guns and fun to shoot. Also, I have fallen in love with pocket carry so I want to be able to carry it under certain circumstances.
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I’ll play
1. How many .22 pistols do you own?
(2). S&W M&P 22 (really a clone), and a High Standard (was my dad’s).
2. What pistol did you start/learn to shoot with?
Random range rental guns. The ones I remember are Sig 220&228. More serious learning/training was Glock 17. My M&P was primarily to teach others.
3. A lot of people own a special .22 pistol that has a special (family?) history to it. Do you have one that is special to you? If so what is the story behind it?
High Standard 106, which was my dad’s. I think it was one of his faves and he had a decent amount of ammo for it. However, I didn’t know he had it until after he passed away. When we shot, he mostly shot his 1911 and my rifles.
4. What, if any, .22 pistols do you intend to buy? And why?
I would love a Ruger MkIV or similar S&W model (based on looks) with an RDS.
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I prefer the S&W 41 Performance Center and the Volquartsen Scorpion .22 LR. Neither gun is being stocked by a LGS on Oahu, and probably elsewhere in HI. S&W's decision to relocate some of its production to a southern state could add to the supply drought. I can't comment on the QC issues of setting up a new factory. When Gibson guitars moved from Michigan to Tennessee, quality diminished and it took years to get back on track. People matter as much as machinery.
Given the lack of power, these guns may require head shots in a home defense situation. Also in great shortage is CCI .22LR ammo. Our hands are tied behind our backs by the inventory problem.
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I’ll play
1. How many .22 pistols do you own?
(2). S&W M&P 22 (really a clone), and a High Standard (was my dad’s).
2. What pistol did you start/learn to shoot with?
Random range rental guns. The ones I remember are Sig 220&228. More serious learning/training was Glock 17. My M&P was primarily to teach others.
3. A lot of people own a special .22 pistol that has a special (family?) history to it. Do you have one that is special to you? If so what is the story behind it?
High Standard 106, which was my dad’s. I think it was one of his faves and he had a decent amount of ammo for it. However, I didn’t know he had it until after he passed away. When we shot, he mostly shot his 1911 and my rifles.
4. What, if any, .22 pistols do you intend to buy? And why?
I would love a Ruger MkIV or similar S&W model (based on looks) with an RDS.
I thought about your Dad’s HS pistol when I wrote that question #3. It is too bad you don’t know more about the history of the gun as it relates to your Dad. I have always told you that if you ever want to part with it, I would love to have first crack at it. But I know you never will. I want it because I know I can’t have it. The memories a firearm can conjure up are priceless.
I like the S&W Victory model. It is an excellent gun at an excellent price. There are a lot of aftermarket parts for it as well. I like the Ruger MKIV as well. There are so many variants of it available it is hard to decide which one to choose. And there are a ton of aftermarket parts and mods for it as well. I used to have a MKIII and a MKII. One had the 5” bull barrel I used for target practice and the other had a short tapered lighter weight barrel I used for plinking. I wish I had never sold them.
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I prefer the S&W 41 Performance Center and the Volquartsen Scorpion .22 LR. Neither gun is being stocked by a LGS on Oahu, and probably elsewhere in HI. S&W's decision to relocate some of its production to a southern state could add to the supply drought. I can't comment on the QC issues of setting up a new factory. When Gibson guitars moved from Michigan to Tennessee, quality diminished and it took years to get back on track. People matter as much as machinery.
Given the lack of power, these guns may require head shots in a home defense situation. Also in great shortage is CCI .22LR ammo. Our hands are tied behind our backs by the inventory problem.
i toured the gibson factory in TN in late 2018
very little was done by machine
i want to say it was the lamination and gluing on the neck that was the only thing
it was like when i toured the porsche factory in 2002
at that time the only 2 automated systems were weighing and selecting matched sets of pistons/connecting rods and the placement of the bead of glue around the windshield...
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I have 3 22LR handguns: Single Ten, LCR, Mark IV Hunter
all great plinkers, all Rugers ;)
everyone that shoots the Mark IV Hunter, likes it. I think the Single Ten is just as accurate maybe more accurate, but some people especially new shooters don't like the extra work of the SA. but once you get the timing of the cylinder to unload it one at a time, its not bad. and the SA trigger isn't bad for factory. i wish i had a convertible 22WMR model. thats one that I would get if I saw it sitting there at a LGS
the LCR 22 is a good practice gun for my LCR 38sp. the 22LR model would make a good backyard plinker if only we could here
I remember when we had the 22 shortage and couldn't find any 22LR ammo. but my revolvers can still shoot 22 short.
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1. How many .22 pistols do you own? I own no 22 pistols
2. What pistol did you start/learn to shoot with? VP9 (HK whore)
3. A lot of people own a special .22 pistol that has a special (family?) history to it. Do you have one that is special to you? If so what is the story behind it? N/A, family is anti 2a
4. What, if any, .22 pistols do you intend to buy? And why? None, not a fan of the bullseye side in general.
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Anybody shot the Volquartsen Black Mamba 22lr? I'm looking at that but was wondering if there's a lot of difference in accuracy vs Ruger Mark IV 22/45 lite. I have the Mark IV and upgraded some of the internals (firing pin, extractor, mainspring, and trigger group) to volquartsen. Just about 2lb trigger pull and shoots pretty accurate @ 25yds. I was looking for another 22lr and the Black mamba might be a step up or is it just the same handgun with upgrades?
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Anybody shot the Volquartsen Black Mamba 22lr? I'm looking at that but was wondering if there's a lot of difference in accuracy vs Ruger Mark IV 22/45 lite. I have the Mark IV and upgraded some of the internals (firing pin, extractor, mainspring, and trigger group) to volquartsen. Just about 2lb trigger pull and shoots pretty accurate @ 25yds. I was looking for another 22lr and the Black mamba might be a step up or is it just the same handgun with upgrades?
I have shot the Black Mamba. I would say it is on par in accuracy to my High Standard target pistols. That is that it is extremely accurate. More so than I am. I am going to say that it is more accurate than the 22/45 Lite. I can’t say if it is the same gun with upgrades but it is super accurate. I would say for a target gun you really could not do much better. But leave it at home when you are out in the dirt just plinking and bring your Lite.
Like the article stated you have to have the right tool for the job.
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1. How many .22 pistols do you own?
Only two pistols today: S&W Model 41 Peformance Center and S&W Model 41 7" barrel.
Sold: Volquartsen Lightweight pistol with LW carbon-fiber barrel, Volquartsen Scorpion (2 of them), Walther GSP Pistol. Once I got the M41s, sold all
other pistols.
2. What pistol did you start/learn to shoot with?
First pistol bought in 1972/73 was a S&W Model 66 Combat Magnum (SS) with 38Spl rounds instead of 357s. The second was a S&W Model 29
6.5" barrel because Dirty Harry had one.
3. A lot of people own a special .22 pistol that has a special (family?) history to it. Do you have one that is special to you? If so what is the story behind it?
None.
4. What, if any, .22 pistols do you intend to buy? And why?
Maybe a Pardini target pistol, or maybe just have my M41s tuned by Tony A., previously at Kokohead.
If I could get back any pistol, it would be the stainless Volquartsen with carbon-fiber barrel. I never should have sold that one. The newer Volquartsens are
all aluminum frames. This one was stainless.
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Inspector: "I can’t say if it is the same gun with upgrades but it is super accurate."
Hi Inspector, miss seeing your comments.
I had 3 Volquartsen pistols, and I agree with your assessment that it is basically a
Ruger with upgrades, especially the trigger components. The barrel, frame lockup,
and the overall detail are upgrades from the standard Ruger......
Suffice to say that I sold all my 22LR pistols once I got the S&W Model 41...... even the Walther GSP.
The S&W M41 Peformance Center has an Aimpoint T-1 red dot, while the M41 7' barrel has open sights.
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Inspector: "I can’t say if it is the same gun with upgrades but it is super accurate."
Hi Inspector, miss seeing your comments.
I had 3 Volquartsen pistols, and I agree with your assessment that it is basically a
Ruger with upgrades, especially the trigger components. The barrel, frame lockup,
and the overall detail are upgrades from the standard Ruger......
Suffice to say that I sold all my 22LR pistols once I got the S&W Model 41...... even the Walther GSP.
The S&W M41 Peformance Center has an Aimpoint H-1 red dot, while the M41 7' barrel has open sights.
Thanks for the kind words.
I have shot several Model 41’s with 2 different length barrels. But not one from the performance center. They are sweet sweet target pistols. And they are reliable as well. What does the PC do to them that makes them better than one right out of the box? Lighter trigger? Different barrel?
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Thanks for the kind words.
I have shot several Model 41’s with 2 different length barrels. But not one from the performance center. They are sweet sweet target pistols. And they are reliable as well. What does the PC do to them that makes them better than one right out of the box? Lighter trigger? Different barrel?
My honest opinion? A distinctive "PC barrel" with a Pic rail, and a PC logo....... :(
These cosmetic changes really don't do much.
I put a pair of Nil-Griffe grips on it, and I think this improves the M41 more than any perceived upgrade to PC.
When comparing the PC to the "standard" M41, they look the same and the fit is the same. While M41 fans bemoan the quality of the new M41s, I don't think that
the quality has dropped greatly from 20 years ago, except, maybe the bluing was better long ago.
Both could use a trigger tune... I've been meaning to have Tony A., former range officer at Kokohead, to tune both, but I'm too deep in the 22BR rabbit hole.... :o
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Loving all this. I have no experience with 22 pistols. When you say one is accurate, what does that generally mean in numbers? Are revolvers generally more accurate than autos?
Asking because my formula for what I should start with includes this metric: how long do I figure it will take before I'm more accurate than the pistol?
Also, I have a Ruger Super Redhawk so a Ruger GP100 in 22 would be awesome.
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Loving all this. I have no experience with 22 pistols. When you say one is accurate, what does that generally mean in numbers? Are revolvers generally more accurate than autos?
Asking because my formula for what I should start with includes this metric: how long do I figure it will take before I'm more accurate than the pistol?
Also, I have a Ruger Super Redhawk so a Ruger GP100 in 22 would be awesome.
I don’t have exact answers for you but I’ll try and give the best answers I have.
If my memory is correct, High Standard Military Target Pistols (which were some of the best in their day) would not let a pistol out of the shop that didn’t shoot minimum 1.0”, 1.5” or 2” groups (can’t remember which one) at 50 yards. I think it was 2” but my memory is not good today. But just realize we are talking world class target pistols used in competition. S&W makes the Model 41 which is in the same class. Pardini also makes competition grade .22 target pistols. They are all semi autos. I don’t know what their standards for accuracy are. But today the .22 ammo is so much better in quality that a good ammo matched to a good target pistol will shoot better than any human possibly could. Most competitions are one handed and I think at 25 and 50 yards if my memory is correct. If you can shoot 2” groups one handed at 50 yards then I think you can shoot better than the pistol.
Generally speaking I don’t think a semi auto is any more accurate than a revolver. But if we are talking competition guns then semis take the prize. I have both.
If you really want to see what the best .22 shooters look like, go to the range on Sunday mornings. The left side of the range will have mostly the guys that can shoot one handed at 50 yards. Ask them how long it took them to get that good. If they are having a competition that day its probably best not to bother them until after it is over. Maybe someone here has more/better info?
I have been shooting for 50+ years and I think I am capable of shooting pretty well with my target pistols but 2 handed, not one.
The thing is, the article espouses having the right gun for the job at hand. If you are generally just plinking any .22 pistol will do. So bring a SA or a DA revolver or a semi auto. No need for target quality pistols. Missing is part of the fun of plinking. Bring the gun you operate the easiest. Or the one that fits your hand the best. So a GP100 in .22 is perfect for most plinking and general target practice. Just note the GP100 is a medium frame revolver and it will be quite heavy for a .22. But so are most competition guns.
I happen to prefer the Ruger .22 MK IV pistols. Either the slant grip old style with all sorts of barrel lengths and diameters in blue or stainless or the plastic frame 22/45 model which simulates the same grip as the 1911 with almost the same choice of barrel types. Then there is the 22/45 “Lite” version with a pencil barrel and an aluminum shroud. The bull barrel and target versions will give you the most accuracy but will also require you to build up your muscle memory to get good with them. These guns will probably outshoot most casual shooters. The smaller barrel types will give up a small amount of accuracy for lighter weight and ease of shooting and carrying. Plus the balance will be less at the muzzle. Which for new shooters might be easier to handle. My favorite overall of these is the stainless slant grip with the fluted barrel. See Stang’s photo of his Hunter model. Some like to have a .22 pistol that is similar in size and feel with their favorite self defense firearm. That way they can practice with the .22 cheaply and still retain the feel of their full power firearm.
There is a dizzying array of .22’s on the market.
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My honest opinion? A distinctive "PC barrel" with a Pic rail, and a PC logo....... :(
I put a pair of Nil-Griffe grips on it, and I think this improves the M41 more than any perceived upgrade to PC.
When comparing the PC to the "standard" M41, they look the same and the fit is the same. While M41 fans bemoan the quality of the new M41s, I don't think that
the quality has dropped greatly from 20 years ago, except, maybe the bluing was better long ago.
Both could use a trigger tune... I've been meaning to have Tony A., former range officer at Kokohead, to tune both, but I'm too deep in the 22BR rabbit hole.... :o
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Nice gun BTW!!!
I have a Model 627 PC and while it has a slab sided barrel in 5” length, the trigger still leaves a little to be desired. My gunsmith is going to work on it for me. That gun is super accurate otherwise.
Good luck with 22BR. It’s funny, .22 ammo is so much cheaper than 6mmBR or whatever. But you can still drop 10’s or thousands into everything else. 😂
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For 1911's dont forget Marvel, Nelson or Nighthawk 22lr conversion.
Also Kart
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S&W Used to run a separate line to produce 41s. Thinking somewhere in the late 90s mid
2000s line was shut down and 41 product line and moved under PC.
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.22 ammo is so much cheaper than 6mmBR or whatever. But you can still drop 10’s or thousands into everything else. 😂
22 ammo prices are getting there to centerfire prices..... See Lapua Midas+, RWS R50, and others pre-COVID and current prices. :(
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THE .22 PISTOL
A MUST-HAVE FOR THE SERIOUS HANDGUNNER
https://gunsmagazine.com/discover/the-22-pistol/
Great article which I fully agree with. So share with me some personal information:
1. How many .22 pistols do you own? 2. A S&W MP-22 and a Colt Huntsman.
2. What pistol did you start/learn to shoot with? .40 cal XDM. That’s why I’m not a good pistol shooter. :D Actually learned on pellet guns and air soft. And traded the .40 for a 9mm.
3. A lot of people own a special .22 pistol that has a special (family?) history to it. Do you have one that is special to you? If so what is the story behind it?
The Colt Huntsman. My friend sold to me for $1. Said extractor was bad. I ran mini mags at range and she ran flawless (knock wood). He gave me his left over half box of 10 year old Winchester white box.
He won’t take it back.
4. What, if any, .22 pistols do you intend to buy? And why?
None. Cause I already got two. And I don’t enjoy 25 yard pistol shooting as much as I enjoy 50/100 yard rifle shooting.
And no bucks lying around. College sucks.
Would love to get a Mark IV though.
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something that we can't have in Hawaii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3jMgidOVk
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Hawaii really cant have a 22lr charger?
Soon to own a walther p22. I use to have a sr22 22lr pistol. Really regret selling it.
Let's see... The very first semi auto I handled was a sw 5906. Never shot it cause I handled it when I was about 5- 8 years old in my parent's living room.
The very first gun I shot was a mark 3 ruger, then Beretta 92fs, then g17 gen 2, and finally a p226. That's when I fell in love with a p226. My very first gun I bought was a p2022 in 357 sig then immediately 3x p226 (diff models) and then a p229 was gen 2. All p series ended up being 9mm.
The only reason i bought a p22 now is cause of ammo prices and 3 coworkers, all females, along with their husband's wanna try shooting so I figured it will be a good way to start.
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Hawaii really cant have a 22lr charger?
yup, no can.
its a pistol that can fit 10/22, 25 round mags.
in Hawaii its an assault pistol :grrr:
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yup, no can.
its a pistol that can fit 10/22, 25 round mags.
in Hawaii its an assault pistol :grrr:
Ah I see I see. That sucks. Lol.
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I'd love to also have a Ruger PCC charger
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Never owned, inherited, purchased a dedicated .22lr pistol. I bought a .22lr conversion kit for my Glock19, worked like a charm after 300-round break in period of Mini Mags (back when it was $0.09/rd). It greatly improved my fundamentals.
.22 pistol purchase wish list includes a Ruger LCR or LCRx and a matching pair of Ruger Wranglers.
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Oh crap!!! This thread and the 22lr BA thread is really gonna run me broke, :D :D :D I don't have as many 22lr pistols nor rifles as I'd like to. That may change shortly though.
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Oh crap!!! This thread and the 22lr BA thread is really gonna run me broke, :D :D :D I don't have as many 22lr pistols nor rifles as I'd like to. That may change shortly though.
Ah, mah bad. But, just know that I’ve dropped dollahs on various gun interests along the way. Just not 22, yet… tho I gotta admit y’all are pulling me to the “22 dark side” ;D
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I have two .22LR pistols. One is a SA Western Marshall made by Hawes. I acquired it in 1979 and bought it at Honsport that used to be in the Pearlridge Shopping Center. The other one is a Walther P22 that I just acquired recently. Bought this one at Young Guns in Mapunapuna.
The cowboy pistol was my first actual "cartridge" type pistol that I learned to shoot, other than a Crossman air pump pistol I had as a kid.
None of my firearms have any special family history or meaning. They are special to me only because I own them and they are mine.
I would be open to picking up a Ruger LCR in .22 LR if I had a chance. The LCR and cowboy gun can shoot all the cheap shit .22's while I reserve the more quality high velocity .22's for the slightly finicky Walther P22.
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They are special to me only because I own them and they are mine.
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https://www.nelsoncustomguns.com/22lr-conversion/ (https://www.nelsoncustomguns.com/22lr-conversion/)
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I have two .22LR pistols. One is a SA Western Marshall made by Hawes. I acquired it in 1979 and bought it at Honsport that used to be in the Pearlridge Shopping Center. The other one is a Walther P22 that I just acquired recently. Bought this one at Young Guns in Mapunapuna.
The cowboy pistol was my first actual "cartridge" type pistol that I learned to shoot, other than a Crossman air pump pistol I had as a kid.
None of my firearms have any special family history or meaning. They are special to me only because I own them and they are mine.
I would be open to picking up a Ruger LCR in .22 LR if I had a chance. The LCR and cowboy gun can shoot all the cheap shit .22's while I reserve the more quality high velocity .22's for the slightly finicky Walther P22.
Oh man Honsport, I used to dream about owning a Benjamin .177 that they had.
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Ah, mah bad. But, just know that I’ve dropped dollahs on various gun interests along the way. Just not 22, yet… tho I gotta admit y’all are pulling me to the “22 dark side” ;D
I could be spending my money on much worst things
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I bought a ruger mk1 from JS sales on Young st. around 42 years ago.
(That's the place where Mark David Chapman bought his John Lennon gun)
Les Martin mounted a Bushnell Phantom 1.3x on it.
I also got a SW 422 for teaching purposes. It's lightweight and easy to operate.
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You guys also can’t have the binary trigger that is the real subject of that video. He already did a part one ultimate PC Charger build. But this video is part 2 because he put a binary trigger on it.
Me BIG fan of 22 Plinkster! :worship:
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I almost always bring either the Single Ten or the Mark IV Hunter, along with a centerfire firearm when I go to silhouette side, which is where I go most times. especially with the ammo being expensive, if you can find it, I'm shooting more 22LR recently.
the Single Six comes with iron sights, the Single Ten comes with FO sights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mImCiuVqgJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1z6v3ed4U4
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Me BIG fan of 22 Plinkster! :worship:
me 2 :thumbsup:
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I almost always bring either the Single Ten or the Mark IV Hunter, along with a centerfire firearm when I go to silhouette side, which is where I go most times. especially with the ammo being expensive, if you can find it, I'm shooting more 22LR recently.
the Single Six comes with iron sights, the Single Ten comes with FO sights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mImCiuVqgJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1z6v3ed4U4
Wow, these Ruger .22 SA revolvers are beautiful! :thumbsup: Shit, now I want to own these too! ;D
My Hawes SA .22 six shooter is a cheap replica of the Western Marshall, but it's really fun to shoot. Only bummer thing is the finish bluing is all messed up. My fault. I didn't take care of it well. Or maybe it would've ended up that way due to it was a cheap firearm.
.22's are fun to shoot. Hope it continues to be a cheap alternative but nowadays I dunno........prior to the pandemic I could buy a brick of 500 for $28 but now that same brick is $60 or more. :grrr:
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.22's are fun to shoot. Hope it continues to be a cheap alternative but nowadays I dunno........prior to the pandemic I could buy a brick of 500 for $28 but now that same brick is $60 or more. :grrr:
Yeah, YG used to have regular sales of Blazer .22 bricks for $25 *sigh*
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I almost always bring either the Single Ten or the Mark IV Hunter, along with a centerfire firearm when I go to silhouette side, which is where I go most times. especially with the ammo being expensive, if you can find it, I'm shooting more 22LR recently.
the Single Six comes with iron sights, the Single Ten comes with FO sights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mImCiuVqgJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1z6v3ed4U4
I have never shot a Single 10 nor even held one. I assume it is similar to a single 6?
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I have never shot a Single 10 nor even held one. I assume it is similar to a single 6?
its the same frame and grip, just the cylinder holds 10 rounds. and the Ten comes with FO sights instead of irons. sights are easily changed out on most models
i think the Six you have more barrel length options, IIRC
i would have preferred the Six convertible with the 22magnum cylinder, but at the time LGS only had the Ten model so i got that one. i wouldn't mind having both. if I see one sitting at a LGS, I will buy it :shaka:
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CCI Quiet ammo will cycle through my Ruger Mk. II Government Target Model but not a Beretta 21a nor a Kart rimfire conversion. It is noticeably quieter than SV but not like Colibri or CB Long.
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Yeah, YG used to have regular sales of Blazer .22 bricks for $25 *sigh*
I remember buying Blazer brick from them for $9.95 on sale. I may be showing my age
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I remember buying Blazer brick from them for $9.95 on sale. I may be showing my age
I remember buying a brick of Blazer from YG for $18. I don’t remember how long ago that was but I bought 10 bricks. I called a friend of mine to tell him about my find and he went there the next day and they had sold out. So I sold him 5 of my bricks. The cheapest I have seen a brick recently is $50.
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I remember buying a brick of Blazer from YG for $18. I don’t remember how long ago that was but I bought 10 bricks. I called a friend of mine to tell him about my find and he went there the next day and they had sold out. So I sold him 5 of my bricks. The cheapest I have seen a brick recently is $50.
180 a case was what i was paying for Blazers and Aguila SV pre covid. Haven't needed to buy since I still have a bunch
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180 a case was what i was paying for Blazers and Aguila SV pre covid. Haven't needed to buy since I still have a bunch
I had 15k rounds I had to sell before I moved from the islands. 99% Blazer and CCI SV. I had been trying to use it all up for a year or two before. My guess is I had about 30k rounds when my wife and I realized we were not able to stay in Hawaii due to the poor medical care she was getting.
After I moved here in April 2020 (Or 4/20 💨 😝) I was only able to obtain 2500 rounds Blazer and 5100 rounds of CCI SV before supplies dried up right before my eyes. Of course I realize that this amount won’t last me long especially the SV because I can only shoot SV out of my target pistols. Then about a year ago the CMP started selling bulk packaged Eley SV for 7 cents a round or right around $350 per case delivered to my door. I bought 2 cases and they have not had any since. This Eley mimics CCI SV to a tee. It is very close in velocity and SD out of my guns. The only difference is it has a more greasy lube than the waxy lube that the CCI SV has.
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I had 15k rounds I had to sell before I moved from the islands. 99% Blazer and CCI SV. I had been trying to use it all up for a year or two before. My guess is I had about 30k rounds when my wife and I realized we were not able to stay in Hawaii due to the poor medical care she was getting.
After I moved here in April 2020 (Or 4/20 💨 😝) I was only able to obtain 2500 rounds Blazer and 5100 rounds of CCI SV before supplies dried up right before my eyes. Of course I realize that this amount won’t last me long especially the SV because I can only shoot SV out of my target pistols. Then about a year ago the CMP started selling bulk packaged Eley SV for 7 cents a round or right around $350 per case delivered to my door. I bought 2 cases and they have not had any since. This Eley mimics CCI SV to a tee. It is very close in velocity and SD out of my guns. The only difference is it has a more greasy lube than the waxy lube that the CCI SV has.
I love the CMP Eley practice. Bulk package and very consistent. Yes the lube is very excessive.
Ammo is coming back. It'll be like toilet paper was in Hawaii. Not very many people can afford to sit on a large stash of ammo so the supply will stable off in time. High end 22 stuff is pretty available.
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I love the CMP Eley practice. Bulk package and very consistent. Yes the lube is very excessive.
Ammo is coming back. It'll be like toilet paper was in Hawaii. Not very many people can afford to sit on a large stash of ammo so the supply will stable off in time. High end 22 stuff is pretty available.
I have been wanting to pick up some of my fav SK Rifle and Pistol Match ammo. But since I am no longer involved in any sort of competition shooting I have been holding off getting some. Also, I have only been able to find it in case lots at a decent price. By the brick has been outrageous.
A friend wants me to join the league we have at the range but I am not sure I want to compete any more.
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Here’s one I want to shoot:
Keltec CP33
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/10/kel-tec-cp33-pistol/
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I thought about your Dad’s HS pistol when I wrote that question #3. It is too bad you don’t know more about the history of the gun as it relates to your Dad. I have always told you that if you ever want to part with it, I would love to have first crack at it. But I know you never will. I want it because I know I can’t have it. The memories a firearm can conjure up are priceless.
I like the S&W Victory model. It is an excellent gun at an excellent price. There are a lot of aftermarket parts for it as well. I like the Ruger MKIV as well. There are so many variants of it available it is hard to decide which one to choose. And there are a ton of aftermarket parts and mods for it as well. I used to have a MKIII and a MKII. One had the 5” bull barrel I used for target practice and the other had a short tapered lighter weight barrel I used for plinking. I wish I had never sold them.
I believe my dad used to shoot often with his brothers. All have firearms. I know some stories, but never asked them more about their experiences. Had plenty of opportunities at family parties, trips to Vegas together, etc. Just never did. :( They grew up in Molokai and had lots of opportunity to just go out and shoot. Big family too where the oldest uncle was like another parent.
Different thread, but my dad’s revolvers were among his most prized guns. His Python, .41 Mag S&W, and .44 Mag Ruger, all of which I really enjoy shooting, but don’t enjoy cleaning as much. Haha
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A .22 lr semi-auto with RDS and a revolver are two handguns I would love to own. Especially if I had more regular access to a plinking range.