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Title: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2021, 06:02:40 AM
SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER

https://gunsmagazine.com/guns/handguns/revolvers/six-reasons-to-own-a-revolver/
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 09:11:35 AM
How about reasons to own 6 (or more) revolvers?

My reasons:
1 - Need multiple .357 Mag revolvers.  To try different barrel lengths as well as various uses/applications. 
2 - .38 SPL snubbie for various reasons
3 - .44 Mag just because it's a badass cartridge 
4 - .41 Mag to be unique, and it was one of my dad's favorite handguns
5 - .22 lr revolver, becuase they are just fun to shoot.  Great teaching handgun as well. 

Looks like I have a couple of revolvers to add to the "want list".   ;D
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2021, 09:16:36 AM
1 more reason: 
much easier to retrieve brass.  just eject them into your hand 
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 09:17:34 AM
All GREAT reasons!
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 09:20:22 AM
1 more reason: 
much easier to retrieve brass.  just eject them into your hand
What?  Haven't you seen the TV shows and movies where the brass hits the ground after?  Like TWD when Rick shot like 20+ rounds with his revolver, all head shots, from 50+ yards, while muzzle pointed to the walker's feet.   ;D

 :rofl:
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 09:26:19 AM
What?  Haven't you seen the TV shows and movies where the brass hits the ground after?  Like TWD when Rick shot like 20+ rounds with his revolver, all head shots, from 50+ yards, while muzzle pointed to the walker's feet.   ;D

 :rofl:
How about when they do magazine changes on their revolvers?  :rofl:
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2021, 09:29:03 AM
some revolvers shoot multiple calibers without any changes in the gun
like the 460 S&W can shoot 460, 454 Casull, 45 Colt
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 09:31:09 AM
How about reasons to own 6 (or more) revolvers?

My reasons:
1 - Need multiple .357 Mag revolvers.  To try different barrel lengths as well as various uses/applications. 
2 - .38 SPL snubbie for various reasons
3 - .44 Mag just because it's a badass cartridge 
4 - .41 Mag to be unique, and it was one of my dad's favorite handguns
5 - .22 lr revolver, becuase they are just fun to shoot.  Great teaching handgun as well. 

Looks like I have a couple of revolvers to add to the "want list".   ;D
6- 9 mm revolver.  Common caliber for ammo that I try to have on hand for semi-autos. 
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 09:32:09 AM
some revolvers shoot multiple calibers without any changes in the gun
like the 460 S&W can shoot 460, 454 Casull, 45 Colt
I just sold my Ruger Super Redhawk in 454 Casull/45 Colt. That cartridge makes the 44 mag look like a pussy cartridge.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 09:32:42 AM
6- 9 mm revolver.  Common caliber for ammo that I try to have on hand for semi-autos.
I gots 3 of them now. I like shooting them a lot!
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 09:35:26 AM
some revolvers shoot multiple calibers without any changes in the gun
like the 460 S&W can shoot 460, 454 Casull, 45 Colt
And some revolvers that can swap out cylinders.
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 09:37:39 AM
And some revolvers that can swap out cylinders.
I want a Ruger Super Blackhawk in 38/357 cylinder and 9mm cylinder.  :love:
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2021, 09:59:02 AM
I want a Ruger Super Blackhawk in 38/357 cylinder and 9mm cylinder.  :love:

me too.  now that I have a 9mm pistol, that blackhawk looks like one i would like to have
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2021, 10:02:23 AM
my six reasons:

1:  Colt Python
2.  Colt Anaconda
3.  Korth
4.  Manhurin
5.  Ruger GP100
6.  S&W model 29
7.  S&W 686
8.  Ruger Super Blackhawk
9.  Ruger Redhawk
10. Ruger LCR

I needed a top ten, too many good revolvers   :shaka:
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2021, 11:24:10 AM
revolvers usually eat any type of ammo: wadcutters, semiwadcutters, jhp, lead bullets, jacketed bullets
length of cartridge not so much of a problem.  as long as it fits in the cylinder, it'll work. 
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 11:28:31 AM
revolvers usually eat any type of ammo: wadcutters, semiwadcutters, jhp, lead bullets, jacketed bullets
length of cartridge not so much of a problem.  as long as it fits in the cylinder, it'll work.
That is one aspect of revolvers that gives me pause.  I don't know much about that aspect, nor have familiarity with anyone local who can do some tuning and regular maintenance.  Not that I'm shooting revolvers that much lately, but still.  Whereas for my semi-autos (besides 1911s), I can do most of the needed regular maintenance. 

Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 11:45:03 AM
revolvers usually eat any type of ammo: wadcutters, semiwadcutters, jhp, lead bullets, jacketed bullets
length of cartridge not so much of a problem.  as long as it fits in the cylinder, it'll work.
Had an interesting problem many years ago. Someone gave me 2k 158gr LSWC for my 357/38. The lead was soft and the lube not so good. So I decided to just load up a bunch of bunny farts in 357 using a known powder charge. I loaded about 100 and crimped them nicely in the crimp groove. I figure they would make good practice rounds. When I took them to the range, low and behold they were too long! Couldn’t close my cylinder. Never bothered to check the OAL of the cartridge. I have never seen such a long bullet beyond the crimp groove in 357/358 boolits. What was interesting is that they made a 38 cartridge just fine. OAL was within specs. Same boolit in 357 was too long. So I had to disassemble the 100 rounds and reloaded them into 38 cases. They also gave me 1k 148gr LWC. I am still using them as practice rounds but I am finally using them all up.
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 11:54:11 AM
Another aspect of revolvers is familiarity with malfunctions, or what can go wrong.

I've seen some interesting things, like Inspector said.  But wasn't with my guns. 

I've seen someone able to get a .357 Mag round into "firing position" (is there a term for that) in a .38 SPL revolver.  It ended up locking up the cylinder in that position.  I was RO that say, but was on the other side of the range.  I believe they had to get a file into the gap between the cylinder and barrel to trim the nose down.  That said, I've seen many revolvers, like most of mine, that that gap is quite tight.  I don't know if I could fit a file in that gap in my revolvers. 
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: stangzilla on November 15, 2021, 12:51:05 PM
zero chance of a magazine malfunction
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 15, 2021, 01:01:37 PM
zero chance of a magazine malfunction

My biggest worry is OPERATOR Malfunction.

I've seen lots of seasoned firearms users accidentally hit the mag release while focused on the target.  It's easy to do, especially if you opted for an extended release button.  Sometimes the mag just moves enough to stop a feed but isn't completely ejected.  But, if you're on the ground chasing a critically needed mag, that's not good.

That might leave one live round already chambered.  However, there's also a chance you grabbed the mag release before chambering the first round, leaving you with a nice, empty metal (and possible plastic) blunt object in your hand to use as a defensive weapon.

That's not a concern with a simpler-to-operate revolver.  You need practice with the speed loaders, but at that point you won't be accidentally ejecting your live ammo during a gunfight.
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 01:28:24 PM
That's not a concern with a simpler-to-operate revolver.  You need practice with the speed loaders, but at that point you won't be accidentally ejecting your live ammo during a gunfight.
Speed Loaders are so unintuitive. And with my arthritic fingers I don’t always manipulate them properly. But I am getting better. But I practice with them and I am getting pretty good. Not Jerry Miculek good, but pretty good.
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 01:44:03 PM
Okay, I am going to make a list:

1. Colt Python - Original not one of the recent production. Has to be in the bright blue finish with original wood stocks. It has to have a 4”-6” barrel.
2. S&W Model 642 PC J-Frame - I want it to go into my EDC rotation.
3. Ruger Super Blackhawk 357/9mm
4. S&W Model 686 7 Shot
5. Ruger LCR 22 WMR
6. Charter Arms Bulldog 9mm
7. Colt Python - New production
8. Blackhawk 357 to be turned over to Gary Reeder as a custom project
9. Colt SAA
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 01:49:55 PM
Speed Loaders are so unintuitive. And with my arthritic fingers I don’t always manipulate them properly. But I am getting better. But I practice with them and I am getting pretty good. Not Jerry Miculek good, but pretty good.
I'm no good with speedloaders as well. I've seen some guys in local IPSC/USPSA matches that reload their "six shooters" faster than many reload their semi-autos.   :o
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: drck1000 on November 15, 2021, 01:53:37 PM
SNIP

That's not a concern with a simpler-to-operate revolver.  You need practice with the speed loaders, but at that point you won't be accidentally ejecting your live ammo during a gunfight.
I always wanted a SAA.  I'll have to go with 2 of them then. . .  ;D
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 15, 2021, 02:49:44 PM
I'm no good with speedloaders as well. I've seen some guys in local IPSC/USPSA matches that reload their "six shooters" faster than many reload their semi-autos.   :o

There are different designs of speed loaders.  I used to struggle to remember which way to twist the knob on my speed loaders.  One way dropped them into the cylinder, the other direction tightened up the rounds in the holder.

Then I found the Safariland speed loaders.  Line the rounds up with the cylinder and press the knob down.  The rounds pop out into the cylinder nice and quick, and there's no twisting.  Much more intuitive, faster, and one less thing to fumble with.

Now if Safariland would just make one for each revolver in existence.  I've had problems finding the one I like in the model I need.
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: oldfart on November 15, 2021, 03:01:50 PM
Had an interesting problem many years ago. Someone gave me 2k 158gr LSWC for my 357/38. The lead was soft and the lube not so good. So I decided to just load up a bunch of bunny farts in 357 using a known powder charge. I loaded about 100 and crimped them nicely in the crimp groove. I figure they would make good practice rounds. When I took them to the range, low and behold they were too long! Couldn’t close my cylinder. Never bothered to check the OAL of the cartridge. I have never seen such a long bullet beyond the crimp groove in 357/358 boolits. What was interesting is that they made a 38 cartridge just fine. OAL was within specs. Same boolit in 357 was too long. So I had to disassemble the 100 rounds and reloaded them into 38 cases. They also gave me 1k 148gr LWC. I am still using them as practice rounds but I am finally using them all up.
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What is really fun is when you load a hot 357 or 44 and the bullet jumps the crimp groove under recoil.
So now you have live rounds in a cylinder that won't turn or open.

This never happened to me but I've heard it happened to several other guys here.
The inverse of this is setback. That's why I am a firm believer in a firm crimp.
Title: Re: SIX REASONS TO OWN A REVOLVER
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2021, 03:17:12 PM
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What is really fun is when you load a hot 357 or 44 and the bullet jumps the crimp groove under recoil.
So now you have live rounds in a cylinder that won't turn or open.

This never happened to me but I've heard it happened to several other guys here.
The inverse of this is setback. That's why I am a firm believer in a firm crimp.
Yup. Had it happen to a friend of mine. He came over to the house with it. It really is easy to remove the cylinder with a boolit that has jumped. I got out my S&W repair manual and it took 5 minutes to read and a couple to do it. The cylinder almost fell out after removing a couple/few screws.

I bought a bunch of DG 115gr RN 9mm powder coated boolits a while back and I loaded them to around 1050fps. In my semi autos they did just fine. But when I tried them in my revolver they started to jump. I used a Lee factory crimp die for all my 9mm. These were no exception. so I tried to apply a bit of a tighter crimp. They still started to jump. I tried one more time and it didn’t work. I removed one of the bullets and it turns out they use very soft lead. I have used my own hard cast and other brand hard cast and I don’t have that problem with them using my normal crimp. With the advent of getting X-Treme bullets at similar prices I have decided to quit using powder coated boolits for 9mm. The X-Treme bullets work well in all my guns.