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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2021, 01:44:52 PM
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Of course 1 limitation will be what is sold here in HI, but if you could get any, which one?
I'm leaning toward Taser Pulse. Decent price, compact, and has a 30 second pulse with each trigger squeeze.
https://taser.com/products/taser-pulse
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Of course 1 limitation will be what is sold here in HI, but if you could get any, which one?
I'm leaning toward Taser Pulse. Decent price, compact, and has a 30 second pulse with each trigger squeeze.
https://taser.com/products/taser-pulse
i own no guns, electric or otherwise...
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I like the Pulse+.
You get 30 seconds where you can leave the Taser on the ground while it immobilizes the attacker for 30 seconds.
You can try to call 911 in that 30 seconds as you flee, but there may also be more than one attacker.
The Pulse+ will summon police to the scene as soon as you remove the Taser from the holster and disable the safety. That frees you up from trying to multitask.
Cops have policies that they won't try to use a Taser or other nonlethal/less-than-lethal weapon without backup. These tools aren't as effective at stopping threats (especially those with chemicals in their systems) as a firearm. So, have a plan B. I think "Shoot, drop it and use your 30 seconds to run for safety" is viable depending on the circumstances.
If you don't announce you have a Taser, the attacker/s might think you have a firearm and flee, so that's another thing to consider.
No matter what Taser you decide on, training should be a priority. Using one requires a unique understanding of when, how and whether to employ them. If you try and Tase a 400 lb Samoan linebacker, you might be the one in for a shock when it only makes him angrier!
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MagPul with PMAG E60
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If you try and Tase a 400 lb Samoan linebacker, you might be the one in for a shock when it only makes him angrier!
A big Samoan guy was Tased in this informal test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPr9JWlcu7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPr9JWlcu7I)
The size of the "attacker" does not matter as much as where he/she is shot. This test tells me the average homeowner will need 4 shots, which can be achieved with four cartridges or four weapons. Let's see if I can find a dog who knows how to operate a Taser device. AXON, the company which owns the trademark, is up 4 points today.
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A big Samoan guy was Tased in this informal test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPr9JWlcu7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPr9JWlcu7I)
The size of the "attacker" does not matter as much as where he/she is shot. This test tells me the average homeowner will need 4 shots, which can be achieved with four cartridges or four weapons. Let's see if I can find a dog who knows how to operate a Taser device. AXON, the company which owns the trademark, is up 4 points today.
How do u get 4 cartirages? This 300lbs sole was incapacitated with 1 cartridge.
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I don't plan to buy one. Too expensive for what it offers.
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I don't plan to buy one. Too expensive for what it offers.
Get a $20 one, just to have and stick it to HI's government who banned it this entire time. And only unbanned it because a lawsuit was served. So had no lawsuit been served, HI would not take the initiative and unban tasers.
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Where can you buy a $20 one that actually works?
My $20 sap cap will stop even someone on drugs. Hard to keep standing after an 8 oz lead weight hits you in the head.
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Where can you buy a $20 one that actually works?
My $20 sap cap will stop even someone on drugs. Hard to keep standing after an 8 oz lead weight hits you in the head.
Chain retail sporting stores have them. I'm not sure if HI LGS or other like stores will. Mrs. CMO bought 1 in TX at Academy. But then returned it 1 hour later because not legal in HI yet.
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Get a $20 one, just to have and stick it to HI's government who banned it this entire time. And only unbanned it because a lawsuit was served. So had no lawsuit been served, HI would not take the initiative and unban tasers.
$20? I'll front the $$$ for you to buy one for "testing purposes" ;D
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$20? I'll front the $$$ for you to buy one for "testing purposes" ;D
No can "distrubute" per the HRS, well actually the approved bill. Since the actual HRS was not assigned yet as it won't take effect till 1/1/22.
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No can "distrubute" per the HRS, well actually the approved bill. Since the actual HRS was not assigned yet as it won't take effect till 1/1/22.
Perfect! Chrismas 2021 present!!! :geekdanc:
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$20 for one ?
Possibly had one (probably handheld) Might have hurt a lot.
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$20 for one ?
Possibly had one (probably handheld) Might have hurt a lot.
BZZZZZZZZTTTTTTT!!!!!!
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BZZZZZZZZTTTTTTT!!!!!!
"in de face!!!"
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Of course 1 limitation will be what is sold here in HI, but if you could get any, which one?
I'm leaning toward Taser Pulse. Decent price, compact, and has a 30 second pulse with each trigger squeeze.
https://taser.com/products/taser-pulse
You mean you have to buy it from an Oahu-based shop and not Amazon or Ebay? Shucks if this is the case. Prices will probably be higher due to the newly created demand.
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You mean you have to buy it from an Oahu-based shop and not Amazon or Ebay? Shucks if this is the case. Prices will probably be higher due to the newly created demand.
Much of the restrictions are placed on the seller. You have to take a class, fill out paperwork with HPD, background check, etc.... So this why I doubt Amazon or other companies will do any of these.
So many people who want to buy a taser will be at the mercy for selection and price of local stores.
There is nothing in the law that states you cannot buy one from out of state and bring it back with you, or mail it to yourself.
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https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2021/bills/HB891_CD1_.htm?fbclid=IwAR1vfr0E4uDLRsZxOOL1z4bHPYSfiIN1iKiKPoPKXIocoagawjSnMJjn1No
This is not the official HRS, but the bill that was signed into law.
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https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2021/bills/HB891_CD1_.htm?fbclid=IwAR1vfr0E4uDLRsZxOOL1z4bHPYSfiIN1iKiKPoPKXIocoagawjSnMJjn1No
This is not the official HRS, but the bill that was signed into law.
Thanks for your response and providing the helpful information.
Now...taser or stun gun...hmm. The later is cheaper. Glad we will have options come January 1, 2022.
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Thanks for your response and providing the helpful information.
Now...taser or stun gun...hmm. The later is cheaper. Glad we will have options come January 1, 2022.
Each has their own benefits. IMO, taser is the way to go. You can create distance, and still use as a stun gun.
But a stun gun would be ready for use right away (no cartridge inserted), so it makes that very loud snappy sound.
Stun guns are more pain compliance. A taser will cause the bad guy to fall to the ground.
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Thanks for your response and providing the helpful information.
Now...taser or stun gun...hmm. The later is cheaper. Glad we will have options come January 1, 2022.
A Very Clear Reminder That Stun Guns Are Not Good For Self Defense
-- Active Self Protection
https://youtu.be/B8KU9IoBD58
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https://www.khon2.com/local-news/security-guard-hit-with-electric-gun-as-store-is-destroyed-by-brazen-burglary/ (https://www.khon2.com/local-news/security-guard-hit-with-electric-gun-as-store-is-destroyed-by-brazen-burglary/)
Segway of Hawaii said the security guard is doing OK, but the electric gun attack raised concerns.
“Now we’re making these things legal, I don’t get it. I question that highly and I don’t understand why we’re moving in that direction,” Rice added.
On Jan. 1, Hawaii residents will be allowed to legally carry electric guns. Buyers must pass a background check and a mandatory safety class conducted by the seller. By law, users may only use an electric gun for self-defense, defending another person or protecting their property.
Well, they are ILLEGAL now so how did these criminals get them? So now that we are leveling the field he is concerned? Is it better to keep them illegal for law-abiding citizens?
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https://www.khon2.com/local-news/security-guard-hit-with-electric-gun-as-store-is-destroyed-by-brazen-burglary/ (https://www.khon2.com/local-news/security-guard-hit-with-electric-gun-as-store-is-destroyed-by-brazen-burglary/)
Segway of Hawaii said the security guard is doing OK, but the electric gun attack raised concerns.
“Now we’re making these things legal, I don’t get it. I question that highly and I don’t understand why we’re moving in that direction,” Rice added.
On Jan. 1, Hawaii residents will be allowed to legally carry electric guns. Buyers must pass a background check and a mandatory safety class conducted by the seller. By law, users may only use an electric gun for self-defense, defending another person or protecting their property.
Well, they are ILLEGAL now so how did these criminals get them? So now that we are leveling the field he is concerned? Is it better to keep them illegal for law-abiding citizens?
The media will spin any usage to make law makers emotional and place more resttrictions on them. Wait till Jan. I'm sure our buddy Marx will present bills where it's illegal to keep it in your car, illegal to carry in a place that has a gun free zone sign, illegal to do non "to and from", etc...
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That skinny uncle security guard barely flinched. What a joke of a weapon.
Poor fellah out there just trying to make an honest living. Glad he is okay.
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https://youtu.be/wKlnMwuCZso
Oh, Not what we are talking about.
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Where can you buy a $20 one that actually works?
My $20 sap cap will stop even someone on drugs. Hard to keep standing after an 8 oz lead weight hits you in the head.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VIPERTEK-Stun-Gun-VTS-989-600BV-Heavy-Duty-Rechargeable-LED-Flashlight-/274463340186?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0. ;) here u go 16 bux shipped.
Ive seen this model in person. A friend in washington had one in his car. I didnt zap myself but the crackle appears to be quite powerful. Very bright arc in the dark, and loud as hell. I was going to test it on myself, til i turned it on.
Not sure about how that stupid mandatory safety class works though. Especially with online purchases. What if u want a specific model that no one locally stocks?
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/VIPERTEK-Stun-Gun-VTS-989-600BV-Heavy-Duty-Rechargeable-LED-Flashlight-/274463340186?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0. ;) here u go 16 bux shipped.
Ive seen this model in person. A friend in washington had one in his car. I didnt zap myself but the crackle appears to be quite powerful. Very bright arc in the dark, and loud as hell. I was going to test it on myself, til i turned it on.
Not sure about how that stupid mandatory safety class works though. Especially with online purchases. What if u want a specific model that no one locally stocks?
No one knows how the mandatory safety class for sellers will work till they apply.
With the requirements for sellers, im gonna assume most online retailers wont bother. So we will be limited to what local stores sell.
Unless u go to the mainland and buy what ever u want. In vegas, u can order online and ship to your hotel and arrive 2 business days. Then bring it back or mail it to yourself.
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No one knows how the mandatory safety class for sellers will work till they apply.
With the requirements for sellers, im gonna assume most online retailers wont bother. So we will be limited to what local stores sell.
Unless u go to the mainland and buy what ever u want. In vegas, u can order online and ship to your hotel and arrive 2 business days. Then bring it back or mail it to yourself.
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It would be easy enough to provide a copy of the training certificate to mainland sellers to show that you are legal to own.
Of course, that requires rational reasoning and common sense. :crazy:
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It would be easy enough to provide a copy of the training certificate to mainland sellers to show that you are legal to own.
Of course, that requires rational reasoning and common sense. :crazy:
The training is for the sellers to complete so they can sell an electric gun in hawaii. No training is required for the buyers (u and I).
And the sellers must also keep a record of all buyers for 5 years, do a background check on all buyers, informal safety brief to each buyer and some other stuff i cant remember at the top of my head.
Compared to say NV. There are no seller requirements like the above. If a felon gets caught with an EG, its on them. Pretty much anyone can buy a EG in NV, brick mortor or online.
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The training is for the sellers to complete so they can sell an electric gun in hawaii. No training is required for the buyers (u and I).
And the sellers must also keep a record of all buyers for 5 years, do a background check on all buyers, informal safety brief to each buyer and some other stuff i cant remember at the top of my head.
Compared to say NV. There are no seller requirements like the above. If a felon gets caught with an EG, its on them. Pretty much anyone can buy a EG in NV, brick mortor or online.
Thanks for the clarification.
One issue that was mentioned in those comments: all well and good for residents, but what about tourists and other visitors? How about military who aren't stationed here but arrive for exercises, vacations and other visits? Are they not allowed to travel with their Tasers to Hawaii?
I think if the EG is already yours (purchased out of state or mailed to you), the state can't do much about it.
If the Taser wasn't purchased in Hawaii, then none of the restrictions matter if the owner doesn't fall in one of the prohibited groups, huh?
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Thanks for the clarification.
One issue that was mentioned in those comments: all well and good for residents, but what about tourists and other visitors? How about military who aren't stationed here but arrive for exercises, vacations and other visits? Are they not allowed to travel with their Tasers to Hawaii?
I think if the EG is already yours (purchased out of state or mailed to you), the state can't do much about it.
If the Taser wasn't purchased in Hawaii, then none of the restrictions matter if the owner doesn't fall in one of the prohibited groups, huh?
There is nothing in the bill/law that prevents a US tourist from bringing an EG with them, unless they are a felon, under 21, and stuff like that.
I dont remember about non US citizen or resident alien posession.
There is also no registration, yet..........
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There is nothing in the bill/law that prevents a US tourist from bringing an EG with them, unless they are a felon, under 21, and stuff like that.
I dont remember about non US citizen or resident alien posession.
There is also no registration, yet..........
So, the new restrictions only impact local stores and HI residents?
No way! I'm shocked!
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My opinion, FWIW
I'm not even going to bother with those things.
Having worked with electronic stuff for over 50 years, electronics never work when you need them to work.
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So, the new restrictions only impact local stores and HI residents?
No way! I'm shocked!
Yup, fuedian slip during the hearing in the senate committee of "hoops to jump thru" by Marx. How difficult can we make it and still comply with SCOTUS ruling.
And cannot buy on vacay for friends or give for free because the law mentions "distribute". So if u wanna distribute an EG, u need a sellers permit too.
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I like the Pulse+.
You get 30 seconds where you can leave the Taser on the ground while it immobilizes the attacker for 30 seconds.
You can try to call 911 in that 30 seconds as you flee, but there may also be more than one attacker.
The Pulse+ will summon police to the scene as soon as you remove the Taser from the holster and disable the safety. That frees you up from trying to multitask.
Cops have policies that they won't try to use a Taser or other nonlethal/less-than-lethal weapon without backup. These tools aren't as effective at stopping threats (especially those with chemicals in their systems) as a firearm. So, have a plan B. I think "Shoot, drop it and use your 30 seconds to run for safety" is viable depending on the circumstances.
If you don't announce you have a Taser, the attacker/s might think you have a firearm and flee, so that's another thing to consider.
No matter what Taser you decide on, training should be a priority. Using one requires a unique understanding of when, how and whether to employ them. If you try and Tase a 400 lb Samoan linebacker, you might be the one in for a shock when it only makes him angrier!
https://youtu.be/TK7ZvZNAiKY
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/VIPERTEK-Stun-Gun-VTS-989-600BV-Heavy-Duty-Rechargeable-LED-Flashlight-/274463340186?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0. ;) here u go 16 bux shipped.
Ive seen this model in person. A friend in washington had one in his car. I didnt zap myself but the crackle appears to be quite powerful. Very bright arc in the dark, and loud as hell. I was going to test it on myself, til i turned it on.
Not sure about how that stupid mandatory safety class works though. Especially with online purchases. What if u want a specific model that no one locally stocks?
I was talking about tasers, not stun guns.
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After visiting three local gun stores, I found none have a Taser gun in stock, ready to sell in January. My feeling is that the government is going to delay as long as they can in publishing the actual language that screens buyers/purchasers of Tasers. HB891 is sloppily drafted, and may force buyers into consenting to a Rapback check, as well as signing a yellow sheet medical information disclosure form.
https://capitol.hawaii.gov/session2021/bills/HB891_SD1_.HTM (https://capitol.hawaii.gov/session2021/bills/HB891_SD1_.HTM)
§134-F Ownership or possession prohibited. (a) Beginning January 1, 2022, no person who is a fugitive from justice shall own, possess, or control an electric gun.
(b) No person who is under indictment for, has waived indictment for, has been bound over to the circuit court for, or has been convicted in this State or elsewhere of having committed a felony, any crime of violence, or any illegal sale of any drug shall own, possess, or control an electric gun.
(c) No person who:
(1) Is or has been under treatment or counseling for addiction to, abuse of, or dependence upon any dangerous, harmful, or detrimental drug; intoxicating compound as defined in section 712-1240; or intoxicating liquor;
(2) Has been acquitted of a crime on the grounds of mental disease, disorder, or defect pursuant to section 704‑411;
(3) Is or has been diagnosed as having a significant behavioral, emotional, or mental disorder as defined by the most current diagnostic manual of the American Psychiatric Association; or
(4) Is under treatment for an organic brain syndrome;
shall own, possess, or control an electric gun, unless the person has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by the addiction, abuse, dependence, syndrome, or mental disease, disorder, or defect.
(d) No person who is less than twenty-five years of age and has been adjudicated by the family court to have committed a felony, two or more crimes of violence, or an illegal sale of any drug shall own, possess, or control an electric gun.
Whether they add statutes that will allow FFL dealers in HI to import Tasers from mainland dealers is up in the air, because I predict that most local dealers will not have this (Taser X2) in stock.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0053/4482/1321/products/22022A_1000x1000.jpg?v=1624997025)
This section blocks us from buying a Taser in Florida, and bringing it back on an airline.
§134-C (e) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a licensee, a law enforcement agency, or the Army or Air National Guard, to knowingly or recklessly purchase, obtain, or otherwise receive an electric gun or cartridge from a person who does not have a license issued pursuant to section 134-C.
(f) Any person violating this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.
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The new law has no hoops for buyers. The standard stuff like background check.
Its the sellers that have all the hoops.
No rapback or registration for this year.
This is why i choose to buy out of state, 1 i get what i want. As in not limited to what stores sell. 2 i pay what im gonna assume will be less due to mark ups. Plus i had a 20% off promo code direct from the maker. Unfortunatlly, not many people have the option to buy out of state.
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Of all the provisions I see, the one that really torques my jaws is the one that requires that non-licensees must sell, transfer or surrender unneeded/unwanted Tasers to a licensee or just surrender them to the Chief of Police.
That's basically robbing the owner of the freedom to do what they want with their own property. And why should the Police Department get "educational use" out of something I paid full retail for? Voluntary donations are one thing. This is theft.
How much do you think a local gun shop will give you for your carried yet unused Taser? Half the current market value? One-third? Less? What if it's an older model that's no longer in demand? Selling on the 2nd hand market would be more likely to fetch a reasonable price.
I can sell a firearm anywhere in the nation as long as I adhere to the procedures and restrictions. But I can't sell my Taser to anyone other than a state-licensed dealer.
Again, the state is treating Tasers as if they are more dangerous than firearms.
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Idk if airlines allows tasers. But u can mail 1 to yourself from FL or another state.
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who are the local dealers for tasers?
and what kind of instruction do we need?
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who are the local dealers for tasers?
and what kind of instruction do we need?
808 Gun Club's IG post about a class availability. But they are requiring the buyer to bring in a PDF of their own background check from the eHawaii website. This is against the law. The seller must do the background check. As of today, they have no inventory and don't plan on getting them in until later. So their class will be more of a buy later kind of thing. Their class is from 10am-3pm.
Taser Hawaii had an event on 1/1, but IDK what their status is. They were telling people that HPD will do the background check which is again against the law. And in the KITV article, they stated that a permit is required to carry a taser, which is wrong.
Firearms International IG story had a few tasers in it. But no word on when they going to sell.
The law doesn't state how long the "informational briefing" must be. So I'm hoping a LGS out there will do 1 like how they do for pepper spray. Like 10-20 mins and done, not a 5 hour course. Don't get me wrong, a course should be done, but not required to buy a taser. It should be at the owners to get further education and training. In TX, Mrs. CMO bought a $20 stungun off the shelf. No briefing or background check. That's how easy it should be. Pretty much there are more taser restrictions than firearms, with the exception of carrying.
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808 Gun Club's IG post about a class availability. But they are requiring the buyer to bring in a PDF of their own background check from the eHawaii website. This is against the law. The seller must do the background check. As of today, they have no inventory and don't plan on getting them in until later. So their class will be more of a buy later kind of thing. Their class is from 10am-3pm.
Taser Hawaii had an event on 1/1, but IDK what their status is. They were telling people that HPD will do the background check which is again against the law. And in the KITV article, they stated that a permit is required to carry a taser, which is wrong.
Firearms International IG story had a few tasers in it. But no word on when they going to sell.
The law doesn't state how long the "informational briefing" must be. So I'm hoping a LGS out there will do 1 like how they do for pepper spray. Like 10-20 mins and done, not a 5 hour course. Don't get me wrong, a course should be done, but not required to buy a taser. It should be at the owners to get further education and training. In TX, Mrs. CMO bought a $20 stungun off the shelf. No briefing or background check. That's how easy it should be. Pretty much there are more taser restrictions than firearms, with the exception of carrying.
thanks for the info
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Kit n Gun also. Coming soon.
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The wife called, xring, youngguns, SEC and KGS. The gist of what she got from them was that they don't know/have the process to buy and carry yet. Xring did quote her $500 for the class.
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The wife called, xring, youngguns, SEC and KGS. The gist of what she got from them was that they don't know/have the process to buy and carry yet. Xring did quote her $500 for the class.
Does that include a taser?
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The wife called, xring, youngguns, SEC and KGS. The gist of what she got from them was that they don't know/have the process to buy and carry yet. Xring did quote her $500 for the class.
Im getting the impression some gun shops are requiring you to pay for "a class" to acquire a taser. I didn't see that in the law as written.
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Im getting the impression some gun shops are requiring you to pay for "a class" to acquire a taser. I didn't see that in the law as written.
it's not
it's an informational thing like with pepper spray...
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TheGunDock.com. Taser Pulse $257 + $7.95 shipping 3 day priority mail. They sell to Hawaii. I know someone who ordered on Jan 7, received Jan 15.
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https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2021/bills/GM1311_.pdf
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they have electric nail guns...
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Im getting the impression some gun shops are requiring you to pay for "a class" to acquire a taser. I didn't see that in the law as written.
Law states "informational briefing". No number of hours required by law. 5 mins is guud enuff in my book.
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Marco of Firearms International is offering courses. Price is $149 and first course is on Jan. 29.
https://www.firearmsinternational.biz/products/firearms-international-5240-e52d72fc-6b48-4b20-a29b-2fc16f216d42 (https://www.firearmsinternational.biz/products/firearms-international-5240-e52d72fc-6b48-4b20-a29b-2fc16f216d42)
I'd like to know if HDF is going to be offering a course, since Meri would be the ideal person to train the whole family. I knew that the state would be imposing requirements above and beyond the draft bill, since HPD is always interested in whether a Taser owner is a convicted felon.
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Marco of Firearms International is offering courses. Price is $149 and first course is on Jan. 29.
https://www.firearmsinternational.biz/products/firearms-international-5240-e52d72fc-6b48-4b20-a29b-2fc16f216d42 (https://www.firearmsinternational.biz/products/firearms-international-5240-e52d72fc-6b48-4b20-a29b-2fc16f216d42)
I'd like to know if HDF is going to be offering a course, since Meri would be the ideal person to train the whole family. I knew that the state would be imposing requirements above and beyond the draft bill, since HPD is always interested in whether a Taser owner is a convicted felon.
you have to take the class from the seller
so HDF will not be teaching a class because we do not sell tasers or stun guns
meryann may be doing something independently through her training org
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So Are we able to purchase and carry a taser without registering or training? Mahalo
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So Are we able to purchase and carry a taser without registering or training? Mahalo
The law says you can't buy a Taser without getting the mandatory briefing from a licensed retailer.
It also says you can't sell it in a private transaction. You have to become a licensed seller, let a licensed seller perform the transaction, or turn it into the police for disposal.
The law requires a background check on the buyer, so only a licensed retailer can do that.
I foresee a number of people taking the Ainokea route. Prohibiting a private citizen from selling his own property seems like a Constitutional violation. The gov't does this when a firearm or accessory is banned, but any "grandfathered" items can remain the property of the owner when the law becomes implemented. You just can't transfer it. But, this case is totally different. The Taser is not being banned, but the exact opposite. If this provision stands, they could require background checks on anything they want, and that means no private citizen could ever sell, give or transfer that to anyone other than a licensed dealer or the police. :shake:
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I wonder how many people here wrote testimony when the bill was in process. How many stores trying to sell tasers wrote testimony with regard to all the hoops they have to jump thru.
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Taser just released a 10 shot version with 45 ft range. Not much bigger than the X26. I can imagine the price. I would guess over $2k easy
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Taser just released a 10 shot version with 45 ft range. Not much bigger than the X26. I can imagine the price. I would guess over $2k easy
Looks like it's being marketed to law enforcement for now.
One FB commenter asked if this is another lease program. That implies AXON and/or Taser doesn't always make their best products available for direct purchase, so the price isn't advertised. Might be why the product is already on the AXON site but not Taser's.
https://www.axon.com/products/taser-10
THE TASER 10 STORY
https://youtu.be/cnHxD-A1bPM
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Taser 10 has been classified as a firearm by the ATF because it uses gunpowder to discharge probes. No price yet but a Taser rep said it will be significantly higher than the Taser 7. If it is classified as a firearm, may as well carry a real gun.
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Taser 10 has been classified as a firearm by the ATF because it uses gunpowder to discharge probes. No price yet but a Taser rep said it will be significantly higher than the Taser 7. If it is classified as a firearm, may as well carry a real gun.
More specifically, according to existing ATF rules:
27 CFR 178.11: MEANING OF TERMS
(Also 179.11)
A hand-held device designed to expel by means of an explosive two electrical contacts
(barbs) connected by two wires attached to a high voltage source in the device classified as a
firearm.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/ruling/1976-6-tasers-firearms/download
The non-firearmTasers use compressed gas to propel the barbs. So, if the T10 is using gunpowder, it is using an explosive.
Imagine how that's going to play out when these devices cause death and the family sues someone for using a "firearm" when it was not justifiable self defense using lethal force. The fact that the T10 is effective at twice the distance of regular models tells me it's generating much more force behind the barbs. That has more potential to wound than merely incapacitate.
I predict some interesting court cases surrounding this new product.
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Taser 10 has been classified as a firearm by the ATF because it uses gunpowder to discharge probes. No price yet but a Taser rep said it will be significantly higher than the Taser 7. If it is classified as a firearm, may as well carry a real gun.
HPD CCW challenge accepted.
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HPD CCW challenge accepted.
The challenge would be qualifying with a T10 for your License.