Post by: rpoL98 on May 08, 2022, 01:25:15 PM
SB1567 "criminal pre-trial reform"
https://governor.hawaii.gov/contact-us/comments-on-legislation/ (https://governor.hawaii.gov/contact-us/comments-on-legislation/) limited to 250 characters, so be succinct.
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/stolen-stuff-hawaii-launches-petition-urging-gov-ige-to-veto-the-bail-reform-bill/article_3dd42fe4-cc47-11ec-bf56-0b08234bece2.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/stolen-stuff-hawaii-launches-petition-urging-gov-ige-to-veto-the-bail-reform-bill/article_3dd42fe4-cc47-11ec-bf56-0b08234bece2.html)
https://www.kitv.com/social-media-site-launches-petition-to-veto-bail-bill/video_ec65e810-c889-5689-b426-d4bf36c86a0b.html (https://www.kitv.com/social-media-site-launches-petition-to-veto-bail-bill/video_ec65e810-c889-5689-b426-d4bf36c86a0b.html)
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/05/critics-call-bail-reform-measure-approved-by-lawmakers-get-out-jail-free-card/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/05/critics-call-bail-reform-measure-approved-by-lawmakers-get-out-jail-free-card/)
Post by: oldfart on May 08, 2022, 03:28:35 PM
https://www.change.org/p/governor-ige-please-veto-hb1567
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 10, 2022, 12:39:14 PM
Post by: oldfart on May 10, 2022, 01:27:29 PM
Dem guys no catch da hint
Post by: QUIETShooter on May 11, 2022, 10:07:11 AM
Gov. Leaders in Hawaii do not have the interests of the people at heart. And Hawaii is 99.9% Democrats. What does this tell you.
Hawaii Leaders just want your vote. Not your f**kn input.
Post by: RSN172 on May 11, 2022, 10:39:48 AM
Post by: QUIETShooter on May 11, 2022, 10:05:40 PM
To me he's not a lame duck. Just lame. From the very beginning of his term(s).
Post by: rpoL98 on May 17, 2022, 05:29:41 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/video/2022/05/18/opponents-cash-bail-reform-bill-rally-state-capitol-hopes-governor-will-veto-it/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/video/2022/05/18/opponents-cash-bail-reform-bill-rally-state-capitol-hopes-governor-will-veto-it/)
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/hawaii-mayors-want-gov-ige-to-veto-bail-reform-bill/ (https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/hawaii-mayors-want-gov-ige-to-veto-bail-reform-bill/)
Post by: oldfart on May 18, 2022, 06:28:31 AM
There is a petition with over 5000 signatures right now....
https://www.change.org/p/governor-ige-please-veto-hb1567
Over 7900 signatures today.
...
Proponents claim that it will reduce crime.
Post by: aletheuo137 on May 18, 2022, 07:40:17 AM
Also probably because he's a lame duck governor. On his way out. Just collecting the paychecks.An insult to ducks everywhere!
To me he's not a lame duck. Just lame. From the very beginning of his term(s).
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Post by: ren on May 18, 2022, 07:47:36 AM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/18/opposition-grows-over-bail-reform-bill-advocates-say-many-fears-are-unfounded/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/18/opposition-grows-over-bail-reform-bill-advocates-say-many-fears-are-unfounded/)
Gov. David Ige said he’s still considering the bill.
“We want to look at the reform passed a couple years ago and see the progress made,” said Ige. “Then just make an evaluation of what is contained in this new proposal.”
Why does someone like him care anyways.
Post by: QUIETShooter on May 18, 2022, 01:48:59 PM
Appears that he will sign or let it become law.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/18/opposition-grows-over-bail-reform-bill-advocates-say-many-fears-are-unfounded/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/05/18/opposition-grows-over-bail-reform-bill-advocates-say-many-fears-are-unfounded/)
Gov. David Ige said he’s still considering the bill.
“We want to look at the reform passed a couple years ago and see the progress made,” said Ige. “Then just make an evaluation of what is contained in this new proposal.”
Why does someone like him care anyways.
That person in the article called Kat Brady, who is supposed to be community coordinator on prisons or something like that, said in the article that crime actually goes down when states adopt similar bail reform. He mentioned New Jersey. Really?
I wish people like this would not only make their statement but explain how and why. How exactly does crime go down about the same rate as people released on no bail. In the New Jersey case it was mentioned 20%.
How can that happen. And it better not be because of the poor unable to post bail. In my opinion that's Bullcr*p. They'll do it again. And again.
Meanwhile, Business owners and property owners have to deal with repairs, higher insurance, and the trauma and stress that comes with the crimes committed, while their customers bear the brunt of these crimes with higher prices to offset the lost property.
People like Ige care more for the criminals than the taxpayer public who pay his salary and his loyal constituents who were stupid enough to put him in office in the first place.