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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Silverfd on June 24, 2022, 11:31:44 PM
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Does anyone know how to actually go about applying for a concealed weapons permit? What paper work do you need? Where do you go to apply? Are there special hours to apply?
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https://www.honolulupd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/LTC2018Application.pdf
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Is that the old form? I thought with the passing of the new law there should be no reason why I should need a reason why I need the ccw, it's the law of the land which says I have right to protect myself
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Is that the old form? I thought with the passing of the new law there should be no reason why I should need a reason why I need the ccw, it's the law of the land which says I have right to protect myself
I doubt they changed the form yet. I think the new interpretation of the law is that the “reason” can no longer be a determining factor in whether the permit is approved or not. I am guessing they can still technically ask a reason, but it doesn’t matter what you write as the reason. But idk.
I am sure they will come up with an updated form later. For now I would not be surprised one bit if every permit application is still denied until the state/county can figure out some way to add about 50 more layers of red tape.
Which those 50 layers of red tape will then have to be challenged in court and it will be years before the Hawaii government finally allows the concealed carry the way it should be allowed.
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Is that the old form? I thought with the passing of the new law there should be no reason why I should need a reason why I need the ccw, it's the law of the land which says I have right to protect myself
Just put "N/A" in the "reasons" section.
If you think HPD is going to magically conform to the Constitution just because the Supreme Court ruled against a law in New York, you haven't been watching our gun rights discussions for very long.
They won't change the form until the Hawaii Statutes are changed or if the Governor issues an order forcing police departments to no longer deny applications based on the applicant's reasons. Until that time, the Chief of Police still has the power to deny your application for no reason.
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Ige is going to, at his earliest chance, instruct the Chief of Police to immediately grant CCW's to all applicants that qualify.
As per SCOTUS ruling.
Immediately.
NOT!!! :rofl:
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I suppose each county has it's own forms for CCW application.
Not very interested in actually carrying, but would like to have one in the car if I had to go to Hilo side. Too many rabid liberals over there.
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I suppose each county has it's own forms for CCW application.
Not very interested in actually carrying, but would like to have one in the car if I had to go to Hilo side. Too many rabid liberals over there.
I can see the "places to keep" BS being repealed from HRS 134. Either that, or they'll make it so those rules only apply to owners who don't have carry licenses.
Stay tuned.
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Until hawaii settles it's own case, everyone will still get denied
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Until hawaii settles it's own case, everyone will still get denied
I agree. But still.
I plan to get my passport photos. No rush but I eventually will get around to applying for carry permit.
It's quite amusing. I already have proven to the State of Hawaii and the City and County of Honolulu that I can legally own rifles and handguns.
And yet I have to submit 2 passport photos, fill out an application, and explain why I need to have a carry permit for self protection.
Hawaii is such a retarded State.
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Go to HPD site and you’ll see the CCW form. It’ll also tell you to bring 2 passport photos, a letter explaining why you have special cause (currently ruked against but we’ll see), and they’re going to make you fill out another PTA form. Also bring your handgun registration form, your ID, and any accessory paperwork you have when filling out a PTA
Why another Permit to Acquire if you already have a handgun? Is it for the background check, which you already did for the pistol?
Sounds pretty damn pointless and only there as an inconvenience.
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Until hawaii settles it's own case, everyone will still get denied
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It would be nice if Hawaii recognized ccw permits from other states though.
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It would be nice if Hawaii recognized ccw permits from other states though.
Yeah, I wish that too. The SCOTUS ruling is such good news but I am not so optimistic as to how Hawaii's leaders will react to it. And I'm sure the other 6 states with similar laws are not that thrilled either.
Hate to be a negative nellie but I think most of us here are bracing for some really ridiculous and restricting legislation in relation to carry permits.
When it comes to firearms I believe there are no level-headed legislators at the State Capitol.
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Yeah, I wish that too. The SCOTUS ruling is such good news but I am not so optimistic as to how Hawaii's leaders will react to it. And I'm sure the other 6 states with similar laws are not that thrilled either.
Hate to be a negative nellie but I think most of us here are bracing for some really ridiculous and restricting legislation in relation to carry permits.
When it comes to firearms I believe there are no level-headed legislators at the State Capitol.
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Level headed... :rofl:
Liberal headed
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Until hawaii settles it's own case, everyone will still get denied
If you are talking about Young V Hawaii. I think is a case against the county of Hawaii.
It should be settled soon. But I suspect the rest of the state will ignore it. Us BI guys
are sending in our requests for permits. There are no forms here as the cops never intended
to issue any concealed or open carry permits. They ignored the law and never developed a
formal documented process to acquire such a permit.
:wtf:
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Until hawaii settles it's own case, everyone will still get denied
Those ccw apps that the HIFICO guys get denied already?
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Did any of the MSM in Hawaii meet with the new Honolulu Chief and ask him how he will respond to the new ruling by SCOTUS?
Or will he defer by saying he's gonna wait for his "bosses" to tell him what to do.... :rofl:
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Lets hope this new chief isn’t a liberal POS
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
That' like hoping the next Pope isn't Catholic.
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If you are talking about Young V Hawaii. I think is a case against the county of Hawaii.
It should be settled soon. But I suspect the rest of the state will ignore it. Us BI guys
are sending in our requests for permits. There are no forms here as the cops never intended
to issue any concealed or open carry permits. They ignored the law and never developed a
formal documented process to acquire such a permit.
:wtf:
IMO, since Hawaii County is following state law (HRS 134), and the state would be made aware the county lost the case, the state would have to change how every county operates re: issuing CCW licenses.
If they don't do that and only change HI county, the state would be opening themselves up to major lawsuits by intentionally violating applicant's Constitutional rights. I could see punitive damages and perhaps even officials being sued personally.
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The wonderful State of Hawaii.
From a "May Issue" State to a "I SHALL ISSUE NO SUCH THING" State.
;D :rofl:
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IMO, since Hawaii County is following state law (HRS 134), and the state would be made aware the county lost the case, the state would have to change how every county operates re: issuing CCW licenses.
If they don't do that and only change HI county, the state would be opening themselves up to major lawsuits by intentionally violating applicant's Constitutional rights. I could see punitive damages and perhaps even officials being sued personally.
Unless I'm wrong, Young V Hawaii is about open carry.
Probably if open carry which is protected got the go ahead, it would make concealed
carry permits easier to get.
Open carry scares people for some reason.
:popcorn:
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Open carry the biggest most obnoxious gun possible. Taurus Raging Judge anyone?
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Unless I'm wrong, Young V Hawaii is about open carry.
Probably if open carry which is protected got the go ahead, it would make concealed
carry permits easier to get.
Open carry scares people for some reason.
:popcorn:
If I read it right, the case was about carrying outside the home, which the local courts said was not being violated based on Heller which said you have a right to defend yourself at home, but concealed carry in public was not a right.
On appeal in the Young case, the appellate court ruled that open carry IS a right based on their historical analysis. They also said the state's "reason" scheme eviscerated the 2A due to the words "bear arms". They again looked at historical cases and concluded OPEN CARRY of a loaded gun in public for protection is, in fact, a right.
The issue now becomes Hawaii's carry licensing process. The state denies all CC applications and has no open carry application process. That's a defacto ban on ALL applicants seeking to "bear arms." The court says the state can ban CC, but it must allow OC as an alternative.
Since HI County, and the state, have created a catch-22 (We don't issue concealed carry licenses because we don't have to, and we have no applications available for open carry), the appellate reversed the lower courts' decision. Even though the issue HINGES on whether HI is failing to offer open carry licenses, it's really more about them offering concealed carry with open carry not being an option and then denying CC.
Throughout the history of gun laws, courts have applied "intermediate scrutiny" as the appropriate way to analyze gun laws. The new SCOTUS ruling tore that to shreds, stating that a Constitutionally protected right should never be subject to intermediate scrutiny:
The Supreme Court has clarified though in its decision in D.C. v. Heller, and in NYSRPA v. Bruen,
the Court identified text as informed by history, and tradition as the correct basis of Judicial review.
Means and scrutiny are not appropriate.
Intermediate scrutiny, in U.S. constitutional law, is the second level of deciding issues using judicial review. The other levels are typically referred to as rational basis review (least rigorous) and strict scrutiny (most rigorous).
In order to overcome the intermediate scrutiny test, it must be shown that the law or policy being challenged furthers an important government interest by means that are substantially related to that interest.[1][2]
Makes sense, because the government should not be allowed to ignore protected rights meant to protect the nation and individuals against tyranny by claiming the law "furthers an important government interest ." The interests of the government come second to the protected rights of the individual.
https://harvardlawreview.org/2019/05/young-v-hawaii/
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IMO, since Hawaii County is following state law (HRS 134), and the state would be made aware the county lost the case, the state would have to change how every county operates re: issuing CCW licenses.
If they don't do that and only change HI county, the state would be opening themselves up to major lawsuits by intentionally violating applicant's Constitutional rights. I could see punitive damages and perhaps even officials being sued personally.
Also I'm thinking this SCOTUS decision reaffirms citizens right for self protection. So if Hawaii's legislatures start implementing BS legislation banning firearms from State, Federal, and school buildings along with other public places like airports, beaches, parks, stadiums, concerts, yada yada......then our legislature and the State of Hawaii have to accept the responsibility and accountability for the citizens lives and safety.
If anything happens to a citizen at these places where their firearms were banned, then the citizen or the families can sue the m******f**kn asses of legislators or the State in my opinion.
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Also I'm thinking this SCOTUS decision reaffirms citizens right for self protection. So if Hawaii's legislatures start implementing BS legislation banning firearms from State, Federal, and school buildings along with other public places like airports, beaches, parks, stadiums, concerts, yada yada......then our legislature and the State of Hawaii have to accept the responsibility and accountability for the citizens lives and safety.
If anything happens to a citizen at these places where their firearms were banned, then the citizen or the families can sue the m******f**kn asses of legislators or the State in my opinion.
The written opinion for the SCOTUS ruling went to great lengths to address many of these types of points. They specifically called out how "sensitive places" have a historical precedence, and that arbitrarily adding more locations to that list simply for the sake of limiting concealed carry and circumventing the ruling -- not for any legit reason -- would be unconstitutional.
If schools, national parks, federal buildings, courthouses, bars and other similar locations have been historically prudent to ban firearms, they can't then add movie theaters, beaches and/or restaurants to the list. Nor can they designate an entire county, city or town as "sensitive." i.e. no "gun control sanctuaries" allowed.
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Open carry the biggest most obnoxious gun possible. Taurus Raging Judge anyone?
I dont have that, but I do have a Ruger Bisley Hunter 44magnum 7.5" barrel. That's pretty obnoxiously big for open carry :shaka:
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https://hifico.org/
You can see what they have to say about ccw in hawaii. I am optimistic, but I'll wait until its official. I'll get my passport pics. And I am already getting compact and micro compact pistols with holsters to prepare :thumbsup:
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Open carry the biggest most obnoxious gun possible. Taurus Raging Judge anyone?
S&W 500 magnum ;)
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S&W 500 magnum ;)
The .44 Auto Mag is back in production ... :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
https://youtu.be/vQrJ9u-jo_E
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https://hifico.org/
You can see what they have to say about ccw in hawaii. I am optimistic, but I'll wait until its official. I'll get my passport pics. And I am already getting compact and micro compact pistols with holsters to prepare :thumbsup:
Those compact, subcompact and micro pistols apparently flying off dealer inventory. You’re ahead of the curve with some of your recent purchases. :geekdanc:
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I dont have that, but I do have a Ruger Bisley Hunter 44magnum 7.5" barrel. That's pretty obnoxiously big for open carry :shaka:
I have a SW 29 with 8 3/8" Barrel. Were you ever able to find a open carry holster for your Bisley?
I can't seem to find one for mine. Best I could find was for a 6" Barrel.
I could do like the "Good, Bad, and the Ugly" character (was his name "Tuco"?) and just string a cord around the handle and hang the gun around my neck........ :crazy:
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Go to HPD site and you’ll see the CCW form. It’ll also tell you to bring 2 passport photos, a letter explaining why you have special cause (currently ruked against but we’ll see), and they’re going to make you fill out another PTA form. Also bring your handgun registration form, your ID, and any accessory paperwork you have when filling out a PTA
Forgive my ignorance, but when it says passport photos, it's in reference to the size and not an actual passport, right?
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HI already diaregarded 1 judges ruling with in person reg. Ill bet they will do the same with scotus. Our new AG is prob already working on it.
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S&W 500 magnum ;)
Have you ever held one of those?
I did at a gun shop in California.
I have no problems with a S&W 44
or a New Freedom Casull 454.
But that S&W 500 needs a shooting stick!
It is so out of balance it is useless.
I think it is also illegal in Hawaii these days.
Some stupid schiffs that rule over us think
50 cal is a crime problem in this state.
:wtf:
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Forgive my ignorance, but when it says passport photos, it's in reference to the size and not an actual passport, right?
Yes. As long as the photo meets the standard for a passport photo, it's good to go.
There are other standards for passport photos besides the size. These can be found on many sites including the state department:
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/how-apply/photos.html
State even has a tool to help you take and crop your photo:
https://tsg.phototool.state.gov/photo
If you take your own photo, be sure to print it on photo printer paper or have it done by a store. Lots of places you can upload photos to and have professionally printed.
I used to get mine done at Costco, but they stopped in 2021:
Costco is closing all photo departments. Costco, or the Costco Wholesale Corporation, is the
largest chain of warehouse stores in the United States and one of the largest retailers in the world.
Costco has shut down their in-person photo printing services, but still continues to offer these
services online. Customers are still able to print photos at Costco, however four of its services
are no longer available. Services that transferred home videos from VHS tapes to DVD or USB
devices, ink refills, taking passport photos, and photo restoration have closed down.
These changes took effect on February 14th, 2021. All of the photo centers (roughly 800 stores)
are closed now.
For in-person photos, one option is that SOME Post Office locations can do it (5 that I found on the USPS site for Oahu).
https://tools.usps.com/rcas.htm
Also Walmart lets you upload your own photo and either pick it up at a store or have it delivered.
https://photos3.walmart.com/category/83-passport-photos?product=203-passport-photos&theme=fuji.themepack%3A51x51mm_x4_icao9303.passport&design_code=standard.fullphoto
I've read that UPS, FedEx, Walgreens and other places still do passport photos. I think it all depends on whether you can take your own, and whether you want to pick them up somewhere or have them delivered to you. In person places are becoming hard to find.
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Have you ever held one of those?
Yes, I've shot that a few times
It is a bit too much for me.
I am more than comfortable with a 44mag or a 454 Casull.
I also built a 450 Bushmaster AR rifle, which I dont shoot much. That's a bit much too
Wise man once said, "a man's gotta know his limitations." 🤙
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I have a Ruger Vaquero 44 magnum, 3.75 inch barrel and birdshead grip which is pretty hard to handle with full house magnum ammo since I am basically holding on with 2 fingers with that grip. Trail Boss handloads are much more manageable
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I would have them done professionally (longs, etc...). I talled to a passport worker and said many people take the pics wrong themselves. Like not a white wall, but off white. Or infront a cinder block wall, so u see lines behind the person. Both are rejected photos for passports.
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No ruling on Young vs. HI today. Next is wednesday.
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No ruling on Young vs. HI today. Next is wednesday.
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let us know how that goes
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Definitely opt for professional photos. No chances taking a risk of picture denial from HPD over saving ~$10. Walgreens has walk-in pictures and 1 hour or less pickup
According to this, CVS and Long's charge $16.99 for a pair of passport photos, plus you also get a "verification certificate" with a third print.
KODAK Biometric ID Photo System: automatically verifies your photos meet all government requirements.
No need to worry about the latest regulations – our patented system updates as regulations change.
You’ll receive two prints, one with your ID photos and one with your verification certificate
https://www.cvs.com/photo/passport-photos
I'm sure that "biometric verification" service is worth the extra money! :rofl: :geekdanc:
For me, it's about convenience. The closest Walgreen's I think is past the Wheeler Gate in Wahiawa. I have two Long's stores in Mililani about the same distance from my house in opposite directions -- Town Center and Mauka.
With the cost of gas, making a special trip kind of kills any argument over price.
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
interesting that Hawaii is ranked 8th in least homicides per 100,000 population
5 of the 7 with less homicides than us has permitless open and concealed carry
more proof that strict guns laws don't work to decrease homicides, or permitless carry will not result in the wild wild west
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
interesting that Hawaii is ranked 8th in least homicides per 100,000 population
5 of the 7 with less homicides than us has permitless open and concealed carry
more proof that strict guns laws don't work to decrease homicides, or permitless carry will not result in the wild wild west
Stats don't matter to anti gun people. Because if they did, they would have nothing to be mad about.
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
interesting that Hawaii is ranked 8th in least homicides per 100,000 population
5 of the 7 with less homicides than us has permitless open and concealed carry
more proof that strict guns laws don't work to decrease homicides, or permitless carry will not result in the wild wild west
I believe anti-gun people know this. They will not acknowledge it. Because it's all about power and control. The 2nd Amendment reinforces the concept of "We the People".
A lot of our political leaders (you listening, joe?) want to bastardize the 2nd Amendment and don't believe in "We the People". Well, not the way it was intended by the founding Fathers anyway. More like We the People according to what they (those in power) say.
If the anti-gun nuts get their way, their new mantra will be: We the tyrants. You the sheep.
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Stats don't matter to anti gun people. Because if they did, they would have nothing to be mad about.
Oh, I'm sure they would find something. . .
They should ban purple and pink guns. . . ;D
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I believe anti-gun people know this. They will not acknowledge it. Because it's all about power and control. The 2nd Amendment reinforces the concept of "We the People".
There is a saying, the devils greatest trick is making you believe it doesn't exist. Similar to anti gun nuts. The anti gun people in powers greatest trick is making the weak minded fight for them.
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interesting that Hawaii is ranked 8th in least homicides per 100,000 population
5 of the 7 with less homicides than us has permitless open and concealed carry
more proof that strict guns laws don't work to decrease homicides, or permitless carry will not result in the wild wild west
Let Honolulu get a thriving ghetto and underclass going and things will change.
Liberals refuse to accept it is a cultural thing.
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There is a saying, the devils greatest trick is making you believe it doesn't exist. Similar to anti gun nuts. The anti gun people in powers greatest trick is making the weak minded fight for them.
From a pure logic standpoint, all it takes is for someone to offer an example (state, city) with a high percentage of concealed/open carry going on -- with or without the need for a license or permit -- that also has a lower number of gun-related murders. Justified self-defense shootings resulting in the death of the threat/s need to be excluded.
That, or one example of anywhere with stricter gun laws (CA, NY, Chicago) that has a higher rate of gun murders than HI.
Using a single variable to explain any observation as complex as crime is ignorant. But, that's how they convince the uneducated.
There was a study that said there is NO CORRELATION between the number or type of gun laws in a state and the number of gun-related murders. There are just too many examples that disprove the correlation to believe laws stop criminals with guns.
Look at NY. They were arguing to the SCOTUS that their gun laws were needed for "safety," yet they just had a mass shooting at a market. Kind of disproves their point, huh?
Politicians are adept at telling us "The law will solve X, Y, and Z". There's no empirical data or surveys that PROVE such laws have any effect on X, Y, Z. It's what they have to say to justify passing the law. And they never seem to want to revisit the law and evaluate the impact it had on X, Y or Z -- because they rarely solve any real problems. Most laws just impose more fines to raise revenue for the state/city/county.
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I have a SW 29 with 8 3/8" Barrel. Were you ever able to find a open carry holster for your Bisley?
I can't seem to find one for mine. Best I could find was for a 6" Barrel.
I could do like the "Good, Bad, and the Ugly" character (was his name "Tuco"?) and just string a cord around the handle and hang the gun around my neck........ :crazy:
I never really looked for a holster for my Bisley. but I bet Simply Rugged can make a custom one. they are good about making custom holsters. and I think he is a S&W guy
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IIRC, the way Hawaii is set up for ccw right now, you don't need to qualify by doing a live fire test but just be able to legally own a firearm
I think NY and CA merely removed the part about needing a reason to carry and left the rest of their ccw terms the same. so they don't have to qualify by live fire test. correct me if I'm wrong
but Hawaii is Hawaii and the AG and the rest of the anti-gun politicians will make it hard on us to get a license. it would not surprise me
but I hope they follow suit with NY and CA and just remove the part about needing a reason
I also hope everyone carrying will practice and be a good shot and know the laws about drawing and firing and know when it's justifiable to do so
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IIRC, the way Hawaii is set up for ccw right now, you don't need to qualify by doing a live fire test but just be able to legally own a firearm
I think NY and CA merely removed the part about needing a reason to carry and left the rest of their ccw terms the same. so they don't have to qualify by live fire test. correct me if I'm wrong
but Hawaii is Hawaii and the AG and the rest of the anti-gun politicians will make it hard on us to get a license. it would not surprise me
but I hope they follow suit with NY and CA and just remove the part about needing a reason
I also hope everyone carrying will practice and be a good shot and know the laws about drawing and firing and know when it's justifiable to do so
You're right. AT THIS MOMENT, the HRS 134 education requirements are the same a they are for a handgun permit.
We're just speculating about (1) will the state use more rigid training and testing requirements for a CC License, and (2) if Congress tries to pass national reciprocity, what will the training look like knowing that some states require more of that than others.
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With the high cost of ammo, you want to make every shot count.
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I have a SW 29 with 8 3/8" Barrel. Were you ever able to find a open carry holster for your Bisley?
I can't seem to find one for mine. Best I could find was for a 6" Barrel.
I could do like the "Good, Bad, and the Ugly" character (was his name "Tuco"?) and just string a cord around the handle and hang the gun around my neck........ :crazy:
https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/The-120.cfm?item_id=165&parent=669
The 120 can be made for a S&W 29 with 8 3/8 barrel
Or. https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/240-Holster-MED-TO-LARGE-FRAME-REVOLVERS-Leather-Concealment-Holster.cfm?item_id=2264&parent=669
https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/Cattleman-Leather-Holster.cfm?item_id=564&parent=669
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Sorry copying and posted by mistake
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https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/The-120.cfm?item_id=165&parent=669
The 120 can be made for a S&W 29 with 8 3/8 barrel
Or. https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/240-Holster-MED-TO-LARGE-FRAME-REVOLVERS-Leather-Concealment-Holster.cfm?item_id=2264&parent=669
https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/Cattleman-Leather-Holster.cfm?item_id=564&parent=669
Thanks for the info, Stang!
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Thanks for the info, Stang!
sure, anytime
there might be more that he makes for the 29/629 with the long barrel, I just didn't look any further than those 3 holsters. but I remember he is a S&W guy and makes a few holsters for the N frame
If and when we do get ccw here, I will order a holster from him for my N frame 627, snubnose 8 shot 357 :shaka:
I already have a couple holsters from him. good stuff :thumbsup:
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Someone had dropped off some copies of a application at a LGS. Found this by looking up online.
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Someone had dropped off some copies of a application at a LGS. Found this by looking up online.
Never seen this.
I was always told to write a letter directly to the police chief.
for concealed carry.
For employment and open carry I was aware of this for
businesses.
Us Hawaii county guys should give it a try.
Thanks!
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So has anyone successfully submitted an application? Do they give you a receipt and any additional info? Do you make additional applications for additional pistols (the application only allows for one)?
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Hawaii County fill able pdf form.
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Someone had dropped off some copies of a application at a LGS. Found this by looking up online.
That's great they're passing it out now...4 months after I gave it to them.
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Just as I thought, they are making the license county specific.
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Since you have to go down to HPD to drop off your CCW application anyway you should probably just purchase a new pistol as well to make the trip worth your while.
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A friend was told apps are in limbo. Typcial make up their own rules as they go.
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Zippz - Sorry. I saw some copies at the LGS awhile back. I took one. There was only one left couple days back. I told the owner either to make some more up or have more dropped off at Z's So yes people have been picking them up. Thanks!
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I'm getting my packet put together to turn in today. Some sources are saying there's a $10 fee but the application PDF doesn't mention it. https://www.honolulupd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/LTC2018Application.pdf Can any of you gentlemen confirm or deny?
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There was no fee
Thanks! Got my pictures done at Mililani Town Center Longs for $17.00 if anyone is interested. Took about 2 minutes.
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Zippz - Sorry. I saw some copies at the LGS awhile back. I took one. There was only one left couple days back. I told the owner either to make some more up or have more dropped off at Z's So yes people have been picking them up. Thanks!
It's good to know they're being put to good use now and were passed out. Just that I spent a day driving around BI delivering those to all the stores four months ago and thought they just threw them away as I hadn't heard anything about it.
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Watch "460 Magnum Performance Center Close-up" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/lXlLLTb6uB0
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Has anyone succeeded or got a response?
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I asked HIFICO last night what we were supposed to do, and they told me to wait until they go this morning to try to get their permit. I was another first day applicant. I’d say standby. If I hear anything I will update
The 2 directors went today to inquire about their apps. No word on the reply yet.
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News last night from new police chief puppet was he is waiting for AG and legal team for advice
In other words he knows nothing with no time frame
Business as usual
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Apps will be on hold until the AG gets a ruling on the Young case in the 9th. No ETA on when that will happen. So HI is the only AG to not strike down the good cause requirement.
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Apps will be on hold until the AG gets a ruling on the Young case in the 9th. No ETA on when that will happen. So HI is the only AG to not strike down the good cause requirement.
Commie f**kers
I agree. No respect for the highest court in the nation. Or for the people of Hawaii, people they are sworn to serve. Serve my a$$. Hawaii's AG can take a flying f**k at a rolling doughnut.
And I hope him/her/it/thing goes flying off a cliff along with the doughnut.
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HiLying News Now has a story out.
So far in the past week over 40 applications compared to 3 over the past year.
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HiLying News Now has a story out.
So far in the past week over 40 applications compared to 3 over the past year.
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The AG website does keep annual stats of applicants and denials. So 3 last year could be plausible becuae HPD was still doing their RSVP thing. I think usually it's like 4-6 a year who apply. Except that 1 year where there was a CCW drive, had like 27 or something.
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Open carry the biggest most obnoxious gun possible. Taurus Raging Judge anyone?
I have a 454 casull i bought for shits and giggles. Think the thing weighs at least 3.5 lbs loaded. Your pants would be sagging down like a wannabe gangster unless you have a really stout belt. :D
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I have a 454 casull i bought for shits and giggles. Think the thing weighs at least 3.5 lbs loaded. Your pants would be sagging down like a wannabe gangster unless you have a really stout belt. :D
Worth it!
Option 2! A 16” barrel heritage rough rider.
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Is that the old form? I thought with the passing of the new law there should be no reason why I should need a reason why I need the ccw, it's the law of the land which says I have right to protect myself
Per the AG’s opinion, Chiefs can ask for a reason, but you do not legally have to provide one or show a an “exceptional need” for one
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Per the AG’s opinion, Chiefs can ask for a reason, but you do not legally have to provide one or show a an “exceptional need” for one
You do have to provide one.
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You do have to provide one.
Self protection would be my reason.
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Self protection would be my reason.
I said I want to practice my second amendment right and protect myself, my family, and my property due to the continuous rose in crime
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I said I want to practice my second amendment right and protect myself, my family, and my property due to the continuous rose in crime
I am going this week. All I said was for “self defense and other lawful defensive purposes”
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I went today, had to renew my long gun permit too. I printed everything out from online and brought it in, here's what I brought for the CCW:
1) 2 x passport photos, $15 from Wong's in Chinatown on Hotel (across old Love's Thrift Shop/new Daiso). He prefers cash.
2) Permit to acquire & questionnaire, filled out everything but did not sign.
3) Medical information waiver, again, filled out but not signed.
4) Protected Health Info disclosure, also unsigned. You cannot fill this out on your computer, gotta print it out first.
5) Photocopy of my handgun license for the particular piece I wanted to carry.
6) My actual handgun safety class affidavit; they made a copy, so I think they'll accept that, but bring the original to verify.
7) My letter stating my reason for wanting CCW rights. I mentioned my training, occupation, abstaining from drugs/alcohol, and having no health conditions that would prohibit me from carrying and operating a firearm safely.
I got there at 1510 with five guys in front of me, nobody came after me, and I was done by 1555. I kept the passport photos in the little Ziploc from Wong's, the officer processing my paperwork seemed happy with that. The only ID I needed was my HSDL.It didn't seem like a big deal to this officer whether I had signed in advance or not, but I made sure not to. Whoever you get may or may not care, you know how they are. As for the CCW application, it's similar to the Permit to Acquire, you'll be filling out the same stuff like your info, workplace, how fat you are, how short you are, etc. Ethnicity is a short line, so don't bother putting everything your 23 & Me said you are. I know some of you said the website didn't require all that, but things went smoothly with the route I took. Hope this helps.
Edited to add: I opted to pick up my papers versus email, they said they're backlogged and pickup in person would be ready on time but not to expect to see the email on the first available day.
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I went today, had to renew my long gun permit too. I printed everything out from online and brought it in, here's what I brought for the CCW:
1) 2 x passport photos, $15 from Wong's in Chinatown on Hotel (across old Love's Thrift Shop/new Daiso). He prefers cash.
2) Permit to acquire & questionnaire, filled out everything but did not sign.
3) Medical information waiver, again, filled out but not signed.
4) Protected Health Info disclosure, also unsigned. You cannot fill this out on your computer, gotta print it out first.
5) Photocopy of my handgun license for the particular piece I wanted to carry.
6) My actual handgun safety class affidavit; they made a copy, so I think they'll accept that, but bring the original to verify.
7) My letter stating my reason for wanting CCW rights. I mentioned my training, occupation, abstaining from drugs/alcohol, and having no health conditions that would prohibit me from carrying and operating a firearm safely.
I got there at 1510 with five guys in front of me, nobody came after me, and I was done by 1555. I kept the passport photos in the little Ziploc from Wong's, the officer processing my paperwork seemed happy with that. The only ID I needed was my HSDL.It didn't seem like a big deal to this officer whether I had signed in advance or not, but I made sure not to. Whoever you get may or may not care, you know how they are. As for the CCW application, it's similar to the Permit to Acquire, you'll be filling out the same stuff like your info, workplace, how fat you are, how short you are, etc. Ethnicity is a short line, so don't bother putting everything your 23 & Me said you are. I know some of you said the website didn't require all that, but things went smoothly with the route I took. Hope this helps.
Always better to be safe than sorry, especially if ever on a time crunch or trying to get a feeling for the front desk officer because we all know their attitude can help/ hurt ease and flow of the process
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Always better to be safe than sorry, especially if ever on a time crunch or trying to get a feeling for the front desk officer because we all know their attitude can help/ hurt ease and flow of the process
Yeah, I was especially worried since I was going in close to closing. They were surprisingly chill. I don't like the idea of being a kiss-ass to receive rights that were wrongfully denied in the first place, but I can at least be cordial.
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Yeah, I was especially worried since I was going in close to closing. They were surprisingly chill. I don't like the idea of being a kiss-ass to receive rights that were wrongfully denied in the first place, but I can at least be cordial.
The more people that use respect and tact when making contact with the police, the better and more likely they are to be reasonable with us upon contact. But at the same time, we all need to know when to use tact and when to bear our teeth because we can’t allow ourselves to be so nice as to allow HPD to think they can continue rolling over us and our rights
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It would be appreciated if the cops were also polite and respectful
Most are, but not all
One cop......asshole!
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7) My letter stating my reason for wanting CCW rights. I mentioned my training, occupation, abstaining from drugs/alcohol, and having no health conditions that would prohibit me from carrying and operating a firearm safely.
Took me a while to figure out what to write on mine.
(https://i.imgur.com/l4lnDFN.jpg)
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Took me a while to figure out what to write on mine.
I get that, but two things here: first, it's still a process. Sadly, we're already asking the state to do us a favor by letting us practice a God-given right, no need to make it easier for them to shoot it down. Second, the more varied requests we give, the better for us if/when they shoot it down because it'll cover a wider range of reasons for them to justify denying.
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I get that, but two things here: first, it's still a process. Sadly, we're already asking the state to do us a favor by letting us practice a God-given right, no need to make it easier for them to shoot it down. Second, the more varied requests we give, the better for us if/when they shoot it down because it'll cover a wider range of reasons for them to justify denying.
With the AG's letter to HPD, I don't see HPD denying people because of the reason. They will look for something else.
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It would be appreciated if the cops were also polite and respectful
Most are, but not all
One cop......asshole!
Most there are respectful and know their job .Like any job, there are bad apples. The only issue that I have with all of them is that none have the balls to stand up and tell their bosses that what they are doing is wrong. They're just following orders.
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Most there are respectful and know their job .Like any job, there are bad apples. The only issue that I have with all of them is that none have the balls to stand up and tell their bosses that what they are doing is wrong. They're just following orders.
Similar for me. I haven't come across any bad apples. I've had at least a couple of times where they helped "work the issue" where they didn't really have to. One was where the registration for one of my dad's firearms was "lost", so was leading to trouble with transfer of ownership after he passed.
I recall at one time, the LT for the department had his "own way".