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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Uban77 on July 22, 2022, 08:20:04 AM
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There is no real market for an over, under shotgun here in Hawaii. So I was going to give my shotgun to a friend to sell in Florida. It’s been a while since I’ve moved a firearm to another state. What if any laws Apply?
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There is no real market for an over, under shotgun here in Hawaii. So I was going to give my shotgun to a friend to sell in Florida. It’s been a while since I’ve moved a firearm to another state. What if any laws Apply?
Pretty much none. Either take with you by transporting using state laws for transportation or ship via FFL. HPD says you have to let them know if a gun leaves the state but:
1. I doubt it
2. What are they going to do?
3. I know many people that never have and nothing happened
This was last time I read something. Could be wrong or could be changed, but I doubt it
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HI passed a new law that you have to notify HPD if the firearm is PERMANENTLY leaving the state. There is a time limit of when you have to notify them, but I don't remember off the top of my head.
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Pretty much none. Either take with you by transporting using state laws for transportation or ship via FFL. HPD says you have to let them know if a gun leaves the state but:
1. I doubt it
2. What are they going to do?
3. I know many people that never have and nothing happened
This was last time I read something. Could be wrong or could be changed, but I doubt it
State law requires it.
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HI passed a new law that you have to notify HPD if the firearm is PERMANENTLY leaving the state. There is a time limit of when you have to notify them, but I don't remember off the top of my head.
§134-3 Registration, mandatory, exceptions.
(e) Every person who permanently moves firearms out of the State shall contact
and notify the county police department in the county where the firearms are
registered about the removal of the firearms within five days of the removal
from the State. Any person who fails to timely notify the appropriate police
department shall be subject to a civil penalty of $100 per firearm.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0003.htm
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§134-3 Registration, mandatory, exceptions.https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0003.htm
Thanks.
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State law requires it.
Ok so what are they going to do if you permanently remove your firearms and yourself from this pimple in the pacific, never to return? Fine you? What a joke! The way I look at it if you leave permanently and move to another state how is the state law here going to pertain to you anymore. Would love to see how HPD can enforce or collect. No Fed law will support it that I know of so HPD whining to the feds about it will have zero effect and just embarrass the HPD clowns even further…. Just my honest opinion…. :D
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Ok so what are they going to do if you permanently remove your firearms and yourself from this pimple in the pacific, never to return? Fine you? What a joke! The way I look at it if you leave permanently and move to another state how is the state law here going to pertain to you anymore. Would love to see how HPD can enforce or collect. No Fed law will support it that I know of so HPD whining to the feds about it will have zero effect and just embarrass the HPD clowns even further…. Just my honest opinion…. :D
They can file a civil suit. If they do it in Hawaii, you'll have to appear in a Hawaii court. Probably cost more than the fines.
If you ignore it, they can get a summary judgement and judicial lien against you. Now there's a court order for you to pay. If you fail to pay, the state can foreclose on any property the state might have a lien against.
Will they do that for a couple hundred bucks? Depends on how much they hate gun owners and how much they want to make a example of you for the next people thinking they can ignore it.
States go after former residents that owe a debt all the time. Usually depends on how much they need the revenue and what amount you owe. It all has to start with the state getting a judgement against you.
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Why would anyone tell them a thing? Why contact them at all if you are gone?
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Why would anyone tell them a thing? Why contact them at all if you are gone?
True. I sure as heck wouldn’t……
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They can file a civil suit. If they do it in Hawaii, you'll have to appear in a Hawaii court. Probably cost more than the fines.
If you ignore it, they can get a summary judgement and judicial lien against you. Now there's a court order for you to pay. If you fail to pay, the state can foreclose on any property the state might have a lien against.
Will they do that for a couple hundred bucks? Depends on how much they hate gun owners and how much they want to make a example of you for the next people thinking they can ignore it.
States go after former residents that owe a debt all the time. Usually depends on how much they need the revenue and what amount you owe. It all has to start with the state getting a judgement against you.
“If you ignore it, they can get a summary judgement and judicial lien against you. Now there's a court order for you to pay. If you fail to pay, the state can foreclose on any property the state might have a lien against.l
What state? Hawaii? No property here! How would they know I’ve left or where I went? Maybe a drivers license? Probably so but I’ll take my chances if I decide to leave. I’m not a lemming nor do I walk in lock step. :shaka:
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“If you ignore it, they can get a summary judgement and judicial lien against you. Now there's a court order for you to pay. If you fail to pay, the state can foreclose on any property the state might have a lien against.l
What state? Hawaii? No property here! How would they know I’ve left or where I went? Maybe a drivers license? I’ll take my chances….
Someone in Hawaii can sue you even if you live in another state. That's why if you're living in a different state than your spouse, it's better to file for divorce first and in your state of residence. Then the spouse has to travel. And depending on the state laws where the debtor lives, you can go after their property, wages, etc. even if in another state.
That's why you need the judgement first.
Unless you decide to live off the grid and never use any government services, they'll know where you live.
I had someone take out a student loan using my social security number while I was in college -- wrong name, but my number. That was in 1982.
In 2001, I was refinancing my VA mortgage, and I was told I had an outstanding student loan. Failed to show up on any other credit reports for almost 20 years. So, even though there are statutes of limitation on most debts, some seem to last decades.
Eventually, they will find you -- or your family member.
I'm not saying you'll never get away with it. I'm just saying if Hawaii wanted to come after you, they will. Finding you is the least of their worries. Way too much of our lives are online and easy to search.
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Someone in Hawaii can sue you even if you live in another state. That's why if you're living in a different state than your spouse, it's better to file for divorce first and in your state of residence. Then the spouse has to travel. And depending on the state laws where the debtor lives, you can go after their property, wages, etc. even if in another state.
That's why you need the judgement first.
Unless you decide to live off the grid and never use any government services, they'll know where you live.
I had someone take out a student loan using my social security number while I was in college -- wrong name, but my number. That was in 1982.
In 2001, I was refinancing my VA mortgage, and I was told I had an outstanding student loan. Failed to show up on any other credit reports for almost 20 years. So, even though there are statutes of limitation on most debts, some seem to last decades.
Eventually, they will find you -- or your family member.
I'm not saying you'll never get away with it. I'm just saying if Hawaii wanted to come after you, they will. Finding you is the least of their worries. Way too much of our lives are online and easy to search.
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