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Title: A f8cking sword
Post by: ren on July 22, 2022, 08:44:28 AM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/22/hpd-opens-attempted-murder-investigation-after-mans-hand-allegedly-cut-off-with-sword/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/07/22/hpd-opens-attempted-murder-investigation-after-mans-hand-allegedly-cut-off-with-sword/)

Honolulu police have launched an attempted murder investigation after a man’s hand was allegedly cut off with a sword outside a Waikiki store.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: nickelzismoney on July 22, 2022, 09:03:02 AM
Wonder if he ran away like Capt. Jack Sparrow
Wonder if now handless dude tried to take his jar of dirt
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 22, 2022, 09:03:30 AM
Sucks for the Swiss tourist.  He will have a heck of a story to tell when he goes home.

Security guard in the area stated the 2 knew each other and has had problems before.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: zippz on July 22, 2022, 09:22:43 AM
I'm inclined to believe possible self defense just cause the "victim" went to the person's place of employment.  A sword is considered a deadly and dangerous weapon in the HRS.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: QUIETShooter on July 22, 2022, 10:07:08 AM
I hope more of this story comes out.  Would like to know what could possibly drive a man to bring a sword to work for a potential encounter.

He certainly didn't bring it for show and tell.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 22, 2022, 10:14:40 AM
SSH FB page has the vid of the hand on the ground.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: stangzilla on July 22, 2022, 10:31:21 AM
there's a homeless guy that I see at kapahulu 7-11 that carries a sword
I told the workers there that the guy has a sword, and they just laughed
ok.  it's all fun and games until he cuts your hand off
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: QUIETShooter on July 22, 2022, 10:36:31 AM
there's a homeless guy that I see at kapahulu 7-11 that carries a sword
I told the workers there that the guy has a sword, and they just laughed
ok.  it's all fun and games until he cuts your hand off

Yep.  I doubt they going laugh if that guy goes ballistic on them with the sword.

Wonder if the legislature will eventually work to have swords go through the PTA, rapback, and registration procedure.

HPD would love this.  More officers can apply for the new swords division.  Then they can take smoke break on the side of the bldg. every 15 minutes like that roly poly officer who is a d**khead.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 22, 2022, 11:50:20 AM
Yep.  I doubt they going laugh if that guy goes ballistic on them with the sword.

Wonder if the legislature will eventually work to have swords go through the PTA, rapback, and registration procedure.

HPD would love this.  More officers can apply for the new swords division.  Then they can take smoke break on the side of the bldg. every 15 minutes like that roly poly officer who is a d**khead.

Swords are already considered a "deadly or dangerous weapon". As it's primary purpose is to cause death or serious injury. A cane sword is excluded.  But a machete on the other hand is legal to carry around and we have no laws banning them from being carried. Compared to NV that has a law specifically stating 1 cannot carry a machete. I don't remember if it was concealed or in general.  NV also has a blade length law for concealed knives. But has constitutional open carry. Makes sense right?

Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 22, 2022, 11:52:43 AM
there's a homeless guy that I see at kapahulu 7-11 that carries a sword
I told the workers there that the guy has a sword, and they just laughed
ok.  it's all fun and games until he cuts your hand off

Good example of why Red Flag Laws won't and don't work.

People don't report obviously dangerous situations to the Cops until a hand gets detached.  How are they going to narc on their own family members?

What's next?  Charging people who "should have known" and didn't Red Flag their family members as "enablers?"
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 22, 2022, 11:55:24 AM
Good example of why Red Flag Laws won't and don't work.

People don't report obviously dangerous situations to the Cops until a hand gets detached.  How are they going to narc on their own family members?

What's next?  Charging people who "should have known" and didn't Red Flag their family members as "enablers?"

Look at the 4th of July shooter. He waited 2 years until he decided to shoot up a parade. So even if he was red flagged, it would have expired by then. 
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: QUIETShooter on July 22, 2022, 05:11:21 PM
Swords are already considered a "deadly or dangerous weapon". As it's primary purpose is to cause death or serious injury. A cane sword is excluded.  But a machete on the other hand is legal to carry around and we have no laws banning them from being carried. Compared to NV that has a law specifically stating 1 cannot carry a machete. I don't remember if it was concealed or in general.  NV also has a blade length law for concealed knives. But has constitutional open carry. Makes sense right?

No, but maybe it's because a lot of Hawaii people migrated over to Nevada and brought Hawaii's crazy mentality with them, LOL!!
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: ren on July 22, 2022, 05:55:04 PM
more needs to be done to prevent sword violence
Proposal for a bill:
- rename the ATF to include swords ATFS
- serial numbers for all swords
- all sword makers will need an Federal Swords License
- HPD will administer the sword registration system: 14 days to acquire a sword; 5 days to reg
- define a short bladed sword
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: rpoL98 on July 22, 2022, 09:18:50 PM
more needs to be done to prevent sword violence
Proposal for a bill:
- rename the ATF to include swords ATFS
- serial numbers for all swords
- all sword makers will need an Federal Swords License
- HPD will administer the sword registration system: 14 days to acquire a sword; 5 days to reg
- define a short bladed sword
you forgot the requirement for National Sword Association approved training.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: hvybarrels on July 22, 2022, 09:42:17 PM
there's a homeless guy that I see at kapahulu 7-11 that carries a sword
I told the workers there that the guy has a sword, and they just laughed
ok.  it's all fun and games until he cuts your hand off

I was down there today and some friends wondering about the same homeless guy.

But according to the news it was the 7-11 employee
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: nickelzismoney on July 23, 2022, 06:50:17 AM
Ain’t nothing alleged. I saw the hand. Looked kinda fake. Sucks to be the dude who lost it but now he can qualify for D/D disability.
That should come in … handy
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 28, 2022, 08:06:34 AM
Handless guy is in an induced coma and has a lawyer already. He was last arrested in march for threatening someone with a knife a block from the 711.

So like i assume, crackhead doing bad stufd and the employee got tired of the states inaction.

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Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: aieahound on July 28, 2022, 12:30:33 PM
Hope he told the guy “That’s not a knife. This is a knife.”

https://youtu.be/rne8pOxGuwM
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: changemyoil66 on July 28, 2022, 12:36:44 PM
Hope he told the guy “That’s not a knife. This is a knife.”

https://youtu.be/rne8pOxGuwM

It was a sword. Focus.
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: drck1000 on July 28, 2022, 12:43:07 PM
Heard the "victim" might lose other hand and multiple cuts to torso 3-4" deep!  Whoa!!!
Title: Re: A f8cking sword
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 28, 2022, 12:50:50 PM
And I always thought it was those hotdogs they sell that could kill you!