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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on August 05, 2022, 07:18:16 PM
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no need big dog
https://twitter.com/AsianDawn4/status/1555597994736594944 (https://twitter.com/AsianDawn4/status/1555597994736594944)
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He isnt charged yet. So good news. He stated hes gonna strap up now.
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Play stupid games…
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"I'm dead!"
:rofl: :rofl:
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https://youtu.be/Sd9hoOUPNh4
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I think he remained calm but he was prepared. 2 retards come into the shop with masks on. You know they going try something.
Their faces couldn't have been that ugly...... :rofl:
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There is a question on whether or not this was self defense and I can say it was 100 percent self defense. The audio is sometimes poor but you can hear the robber just before he jumps the counter say to the store owner I bet you can't stop me, and the store owner replies I'll take a stab at that.
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White boy bandits in the hospital are like
"You know, I'm starting to think this white privilege thing isn't real after all."
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There is a question on whether or not this was self defense and I can say it was 100 percent self defense. The audio is sometimes poor but you can hear the robber just before he jumps the counter say to the store owner I bet you can't stop me, and the store owner replies I'll take a stab at that.
You certainly took the edge off this serious news.
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You certainly took the edge off this serious news.
That was a pretty sharp statement! :wacko:
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https://youtu.be/Vrj1hdrViIo
this one shows the confrontation
Here is also another one of my favorites
https://youtu.be/TZjXDAMXL-E
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"I'm dead!"
:rofl: :rofl:
He's so white he thought armed robbery was airsoft rules.
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Love that 80 yr old shopkeeper with the shotgun.
He had all the right answers. Politicians should listen to old guys like that.
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That was a pretty sharp statement! :wacko:
Haha I was waiting for someone to make exactly that point! LOL
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Love that 80 yr old shopkeeper with the shotgun.
He had all the right answers. Politicians should listen to old guys like that.
Old guys (and gals) know how precious their lives and those of their loved ones are. Hell, after decades of working hard and raising their children, faithfully saving their pennies, nickels, and dimes, they know that their time on earth is limited and just want to live what's left of their lives in peace and safety.
One thing that would piss them off to no means is some asshat jerk puke-a$$ self-entitled motha-f**kah to come and think that they can just take what took these senior people decades to work for and aquire.
Believe me, at this stage in life, they are willing to shoot, stab, baseball bat yo a$$ and ask questions later. F**k you, puke, come at me. I have my Ainokea CCW license.
Another thing that pisses them off to no means is self-serving politicians that take the oath to protect the constitution then turn around and make communist rules and regulations that promote the kumbaya doctrine. Even thought the asshats are stabbing your a$$, they expect you to literally "turn the other cheek".
Yeah, criminals are finding out about the "Ainokea" license from these seniors. Try to take what little left they have of their wealth and lives and they are willing to go out in a blaze of glory.
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Old guys (and gals) know how precious their lives and those of their loved ones are. Hell, after decades of working hard and raising their children, faithfully saving their pennies, nickels, and dimes, they know that their time on earth is limited and just want to live what's left of their lives in peace and safety.
One thing that would piss them off to no means is some asshat jerk puke-a$$ self-entitled motha-f**kah to come and think that they can just take what took these senior people decades to work for and aquire.
Believe me, at this stage in life, they are willing to shoot, stab, baseball bat yo a$$ and ask questions later. F**k you, puke, come at me. I have my Ainokea CCW license.
Another thing that pisses them off to no means is self-serving politicians that take the oath to protect the constitution then turn around and make communist rules and regulations that promote the kumbaya doctrine. Even thought the asshats are stabbing your a$$, they expect you to literally "turn the other cheek".
Yeah, criminals are finding out about the "Ainokea" license from these seniors. Try to take what little left they have of their wealth and lives and they are willing to go out in a blaze of glory.
Just some comments on the previous comments.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
The Las Vegas guy, unless, really felt he was in danger, stabbing a guy running away is
probably not a good idea. As much as I dis-like the advice he may as well had let them grab and go.
I think his fix; limit customer entry into the store and I would OPEN carry in the store from then on, is a good one.
The Norco guy, I spent a summer or two at my uncles hobby ranch in Norco, Norco has changed a lot since the sixties,
but he needs a Browning auto 5 and should have unloaded it into the a$$hole, that was definitely a physical threat.
he had every right to stop the threat. Dead cold.
"Believe me, at this stage in life, they are willing to shoot, stab, baseball bat yo a$$ and ask questions later. F**k you, puke, come at me. I have my Ainokea CCW license."
I fully agree with you, since in public outside our residence, business, or place of Sojourn. The present law in Hawaii doesn't allow us to protect ourselves with a loaded firearm.
until we get a license all we can do is use the gun case to beat them with.
That is why we want the CCW license that the Hawaii police and governments are dragging their feet to issue.
Thus at our age the Ainokea CCW license is how we roll.
Keep a lawyer on speed dial, money stashed for bail, and never talk to cops, or let them search you without a warrant.
Comments?
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That is why we want the CCW license that the Hawaii police and governments are dragging their feet to issue.
Thus at our age the Ainokea CCW license is how we roll.
Keep a lawyer on speed dial, money stashed for bail, and never talk to cops, or let them search you without a warrant.
Comments?
:shaka:
I'm doing research on various companies such as CCW Safe, USCCA, AttorneysforFreedom, etc. for Self Protection Insurance. Haven't pulled the trigger on any of them yet.
I also am a bit concerned about this dragging of feet by the county Chiefs for CCW. I'd like to think they are just making sure everything is in place before they start issuing the CCW permits but knowing how anti-gun Hawaii is I'm wondering if they have some tricks up their sleeve.
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I also am a bit concerned about this dragging of feet by the county Chiefs for CCW. I'd like to think they are just making sure everything is in place before they start issuing the CCW permits but knowing how anti-gun Hawaii is I'm wondering if they have some tricks up their sleeve.
Huge cynic I yam, but do you all really expect the liberals running this place to just roll over and give in?
Having the law on your side does not seem to mean squat when one side holds absolute power.
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Old guys (and gals) know how precious their lives and those of their loved ones are. Hell, after decades of working hard and raising their children, faithfully saving their pennies, nickels, and dimes, they know that their time on earth is limited and just want to live what's left of their lives in peace and safety.
One thing that would piss them off to no means is some asshat jerk puke-a$$ self-entitled motha-f**kah to come and think that they can just take what took these senior people decades to work for and aquire.
Believe me, at this stage in life, they are willing to shoot, stab, baseball bat yo a$$ and ask questions later. F**k you, puke, come at me. I have my Ainokea CCW license.
Another thing that pisses them off to no means is self-serving politicians that take the oath to protect the constitution then turn around and make communist rules and regulations that promote the kumbaya doctrine. Even thought the asshats are stabbing your a$$, they expect you to literally "turn the other cheek".
Yeah, criminals are finding out about the "Ainokea" license from these seniors. Try to take what little left they have of their wealth and lives and they are willing to go out in a blaze of glory.
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yeah...exactly
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Jumping over the counter could be justification for the stabbing, but the problem is the guy was focused on taking items from the shelves instead of attacking the store owner at which point the justification ends. A couple stabs could be justified giving the store owner the benefit of the doubt and heat of the moment, but he should've stopped it earlier when the robber was compliant.
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Jumping over the counter could be justification for the stabbing, but the problem is the guy was focused on taking items from the shelves instead of attacking the store owner at which point the justification ends. A couple stabs could be justified giving the store owner the benefit of the doubt and heat of the moment, but he should've stopped it earlier when the robber was compliant.
He punched the shopowner in the face. That’s why he kept getting stabbed.
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He punched the shopowner in the face. That’s why he kept getting stabbed.
That's going to be an issue with the jury. If the initial stabs were deemed to be wrong, not threatened with death or serious bodily injury, then the punches could be seen as defensive.
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He punched the shopowner in the face. That’s why he kept getting stabbed.
He punched the owner after he was stabbed. But good news is so far no charges.
We are going to Vegas soon and I might stop buy to buy a shirt to support since we don't smoke.
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That's going to be an issue with the jury. If the initial stabs were deemed to be wrong, not threatened with death or serious bodily injury, then the punches could be seen as defensive.
All depends on what he can reasonably say to convince the jury he feared for his life and safety. His perception at that moment in time is what affected his judgement, so the jury would have to place themselves in his shoes to understand why he felt using a knife was his only, or best, option.
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"I'm dead" said robber who survived.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/vegas-smoke-shop-owner-recounts-how-masked-robber-he-stabbed-begged-for-his-life
Store owner now bought a gun. Parents told him to sell the shop and become a doctor. :rofl:
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"I'm dead" said robber who survived.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/vegas-smoke-shop-owner-recounts-how-masked-robber-he-stabbed-begged-for-his-life
Store owner now bought a gun. Parents told him to sell the shop and become a doctor. :rofl:
Wait, owner didnt have to take a class, wait 2 week, and enroll in rapback to buy a gun?he must be in a free'er state.
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We're going Vegas soon, so gonna stop by his shop to find something to buy. Or just donate cash.
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Jumping over the counter could be justification for the stabbing, but the problem is the guy was focused on taking items from the shelves instead of attacking the store owner at which point the justification ends. A couple stabs could be justified giving the store owner the benefit of the doubt and heat of the moment, but he should've stopped it earlier when the robber was compliant.
At one point I thought he was going to go all Arya Stark and slice across the throat. . . then be like "fatality" ;D
But then that wouldn't be a good look for self defense. Idiot kids effed around and found out. . . tards. . .
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I don'w know the laws where this happened but here in Hawaii this one would be hard to defend legally. The guy went to steal items off the shelf, he didn't appear to be armed and he wasn't attacking the worker so I don't see how he could articulate he was in fear for his life, rape, sodomy, kidnapping, or serious bodily injury.
Funny as heck to hear the guy yell out "I am dead". Its like he was playing dead but verbalized it without thinking.
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I don'w know the laws where this happened but here in Hawaii this one would be hard to defend legally. The guy went to steal items off the shelf, he didn't appear to be armed and he wasn't attacking the worker so I don't see how he could articulate he was in fear for his life, rape, sodomy, kidnapping, or serious bodily injury.
Funny as heck to hear the guy yell out "I am dead". Its like he was playing dead but verbalized it without thinking.
HI law states "belief". NV law doesnt. So in theory, it would be easier to articulate why he used deadly force if this were HI law.
Im surprised he still hasnt been arrested or charged. Maybe NV has a non corrupt prosecutor.
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HI law states "belief". NV law doesnt. So in theory, it would be easier to articulate why he used deadly force if this were HI law.
Im surprised he still hasnt been arrested or charged. Maybe NV has a non corrupt prosecutor.
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I am thinking the fact the guy lived and that the guy stopped stabbing when the thief stopped fighting is his saving grace.
If he went in for a throat slice after taking his back I think he would have been charged.
If he was real savy or got a good lawer he could try to make the case he was going for non vital targets which would make it difficult to prove attempted murder.
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HI law states "belief". NV law doesnt. So in theory, it would be easier to articulate why he used deadly force if this were HI law.
Im surprised he still hasnt been arrested or charged. Maybe NV has a non corrupt prosecutor.
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NV has a Castle Doctrine that says you have no duty to retreat from your HOME OR VEHICLE before using deadly force against an intruder despite the perceived or actual intent of the intruder. I see nothing like this for businesses. The "stabber" had the chance to flee, but he chose to remain and fight. I don't think that's within the law for self defense.
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Update
2 teens sentanced to juvi
1 still in hospital.
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