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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: passivekinetic on August 09, 2022, 08:20:59 AM

Title: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: passivekinetic on August 09, 2022, 08:20:59 AM
Being politically conservative (different from being a conservative person), I am sure I can have different opinions with other conservatives, but we can still agree to disagree.

However, it looks like liberals do not share in this kind of polite agreeableness (different from being in agreement) and anyone not sharing their total ideology is the enemy.

AMIRITE?
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: robtmc on August 09, 2022, 08:35:29 AM
However, it looks like liberals do not share in this kind of polite agreeableness (different from being in agreement) and anyone not sharing their total ideology is the enemy.

Just about right.

Liberals do see conservatives as a mortal enemy.  Why they increasingly use the tools of state (FBI et al) to destroy those that refuse to submit.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 09, 2022, 08:49:51 AM
Usually conservatives chicks are hotter than liberal ones. With the exception of the abortion thing. I've seen more hotter chicks than normal on the pro abortion side considering it's a liberal support.  So u know those hot chicks are DTF which is why they want abortions to remain legal.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: ren on August 09, 2022, 10:12:25 PM
https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/07/candidate-qa-state-senate-district-13-karl-rhoads-3/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/07/candidate-qa-state-senate-district-13-karl-rhoads-3/)

5. Hawaii is the only Western state without a statewide citizens initiative process. Do you support such a process?

No. The commonly held view is that citizens initiatives are more democratic than the legislative process. I disagree.


6. Thanks to their campaign war chests and name familiarity, incumbents are almost always re-elected in Hawaii legislative races. Should there be term limits for state legislators, as there are for the governor’s office and county councils? Why or why not?

I do not support term limits for legislators (or for county council members for that matter). The primary reason is that there are no term limits for civil service employees or even for political appointees. Term-limiting legislators simply transfers more power to the executive branch, which is already far and away the dominant branch at the state level and the federal level. Knowledge is power and a civil servant with 20 years of experience simply knows more than a legislator who has been in office for six or seven years.


I have yet to see a Democrat safely handle a gun at Kokohead.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: QUIETShooter on August 10, 2022, 07:11:51 AM
Being politically conservative (different from being a conservative person), I am sure I can have different opinions with other conservatives, but we can still agree to disagree.

However, it looks like liberals do not share in this kind of polite agreeableness (different from being in agreement) and anyone not sharing their total ideology is the enemy.

AMIRITE?

Yes, you are.  One just has to look at the recent Super Debate.  Big difference between the Democrat Debate and the Republican Debate.

You could almost smell the swamp coming out of the tv screen when they had the Democrat Debate.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: passivekinetic on August 10, 2022, 01:38:05 PM
The Republican party is far from conservative. Those values are long gone. How can you call a party that supports the elimination of democracy conservative?

Please do not hold the Republican Party as the ideal standard for what conservatives want.

But we often have to choose between pure shit (liberal democrats) and a shitty tasting cake.

For example, many conservatives don't actually like Trump but look who we have to choose from on the other side?

Anyway it is a shitty situation all around but we are trying to MAKE DO (no pun intended) with the best choice.

It's telling that liberals don't even see that they are making the WORST choices (not only in elections but everything else) and that liberals are HYPOCRITES.

(e.g., my body my choice, as applied differently to abortions versus injections).
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: Brystont1 on August 10, 2022, 03:07:46 PM
Please do not hold the Republican Party as the ideal standard for what conservatives want.

But we often have to choose between pure shit (liberal democrats) and a shitty tasting cake.

For example, many conservatives don't actually like Trump but look who we have to choose from on the other side?

Anyway it is a shitty situation all around but we are trying to MAKE DO (no pun intended) with the best choice.

It's telling that liberals don't even see that they are making the WORST choices (not only in elections but everything else) and that liberals are HYPOCRITES.

(e.g., my body my choice, as applied differently to abortions versus injections).

This right here lol. I don’t really like trump. He has a ton of character flaws and worst part of him is he can’t seem to get out of his own way. However he’s the best option to me. Because he’s literally the only one that isn’t (politically) insane and he came into office and did a lot of what he said he was gonna do. Yet I get labeled a cultist  :crazy: :crazy:
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: hvybarrels on August 10, 2022, 03:56:13 PM
Usually conservatives chicks are hotter than liberal ones.

I remember when it was like a rite of passage to say liberal stuff to get some granola in the sheets, but these days they look like dayglo walruses on crack

And when did conservative chicks get so hot? They used to be stuffy sexually repressed bible thumpers.

It's like the species is trying to correct an error in the genetic code.

(https://s2.qwant.com/thumbr/0x380/e/7/4bff52063389b00d65e1c0df4c5daa8b3a0877e7fd059b3837613be5b670bd/1c18ebc3-b8b2-4af5-929c-151d9f05bd29.jpg?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcf.girlsaskguys.com%2Fq4462346%2F1c18ebc3-b8b2-4af5-929c-151d9f05bd29.jpg&q=0&b=1&p=0&a=0)
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: robtmc on August 10, 2022, 04:23:25 PM
Please do not hold the Republican Party as the ideal standard for what conservatives want.
Who gives a shiite what some weird millennial liberal skank thinks of them?
I refuse to give leftists the time of day and would not p!ss on them if they were burning.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: ren on August 10, 2022, 05:34:10 PM
Liberals simply can't shoot to save their lives. There are a number of them here.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: eyeeatingfish on August 10, 2022, 11:08:11 PM
Being politically conservative (different from being a conservative person), I am sure I can have different opinions with other conservatives, but we can still agree to disagree.

However, it looks like liberals do not share in this kind of polite agreeableness (different from being in agreement) and anyone not sharing their total ideology is the enemy.

AMIRITE?

Yes and no. It depends what crowds you are dealing with. There is no shortage of militantly intolerant liberals but there are loads of liberals who share this kind of polite agreeableness.

Its just that like with all things media the loud more extreme voices get the attention. AOC and Trump get the most attention instead of the moderates.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: aieahound on August 11, 2022, 01:47:28 PM
When can people go back to being able to be living in the middle ?
Now that I think about it, what do you call the middle? Independent.

I hate the Primaries. Should just go straight to a General election.
Then we could vote both sides of the fence on anyone we want.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: groveler on August 11, 2022, 03:52:09 PM
Who gives a shiite what some weird millennial liberal skank thinks of them?
I refuse to give leftists the time of day and would not p!ss on them if they were burning.
Y'all never been out camping much.
Peeing on a fire really stinks!
 Bad!
Y'all learn that when you are three or four years old.
 :love:
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: groveler on August 11, 2022, 04:01:48 PM
Yes and no. It depends what crowds you are dealing with. There is no shortage of militantly intolerant liberals but there are loads of liberals who share this kind of polite agreeableness.

Its just that like with all things media the loud more extreme voices get the attention. AOC and Trump get the most attention instead of the moderates.
Y'all know what a moderate is?
A person that cannot take a position.
Defend that position, or even fight for it.
They are pussies, that really don't have any
"moral compass".
I have a compass, I'm a sailor and I know where
I'm going, do you?
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: ren on August 11, 2022, 05:15:25 PM
I do disagree with both his points. That's a politician that should go. I'd definitely look at his democratic opponents.

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Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: ren on August 11, 2022, 05:17:48 PM
Liberals never seem to let go of the past...this guy been impersonating Dr Brown for decades!

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Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: robtmc on August 11, 2022, 05:50:22 PM
Y'all never been out camping much.
Peeing on a fire really stinks!
 
Yeah, dumping gasoline on them is a better idea.

Or beating the fire out with a bat, but i would not expend that much energy on them.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: robtmc on August 11, 2022, 05:52:46 PM
It's like the species is trying to correct an error in the genetic code.
I suspect that liberal thing on the left is not unlike the hate-filled millennial that infests 2AHawaii.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: ren on August 11, 2022, 09:17:31 PM
How about we just stop labeling each other. There's sound and reason then there's just stupid, ignorant and dumb. The latter is not worth listening to but thanks to social media we give power to these people. It is almost as fascinating as watching a train wreck in slo-mo. Just turn it off. Go outside.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: eyeeatingfish on August 11, 2022, 09:59:38 PM
Y'all know what a moderate is?
A person that cannot take a position.
Defend that position, or even fight for it.
They are pussies, that really don't have any
"moral compass".
I have a compass, I'm a sailor and I know where
I'm going, do you?
 :thumbsup:

As opposed to a right winger or left winger who can't take their own position? Personally I prefer nuance instead of choking on Trump's balls.
Title: Re: A big difference between liberals and conservatives
Post by: eyeeatingfish on August 11, 2022, 10:00:19 PM
How about we just stop labeling each other. There's sound and reason then there's just stupid, ignorant and dumb. The latter is not worth listening to but thanks to social media we give power to these people. It is almost as fascinating as watching a train wreck in slo-mo. Just turn it off. Go outside.

 :thumbsup: