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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: 6716J on August 29, 2022, 01:21:13 PM
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Child killed in apparent shooting accident at Big Island Boy Scout camp
https://www.kitv.com/news/local/child-killed-in-apparent-shooting-accident-at-big-island-boy-scout-camp/article_e82449da-27e5-11ed-aef8-17eb3262ee8d.html
I can see the liberal parents in an uproar over this and demand Scouts remove all shooting and archery because "it's dangerous". Can't they just teach boys how to tuck the boto and girls to wrap their chests?
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Child killed in apparent shooting accident at Big Island Boy Scout camp
https://www.kitv.com/news/local/child-killed-in-apparent-shooting-accident-at-big-island-boy-scout-camp/article_e82449da-27e5-11ed-aef8-17eb3262ee8d.html
I can see the liberal parents in an uproar over this and demand Scouts remove all shooting and archery because "it's dangerous". Can't they just teach boys how to tuck the boto and girls to wrap their chests?
Ditto….sad but true… :(
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Child killed in apparent shooting accident at Big Island Boy Scout camp
https://www.kitv.com/news/local/child-killed-in-apparent-shooting-accident-at-big-island-boy-scout-camp/article_e82449da-27e5-11ed-aef8-17eb3262ee8d.html
I can see the liberal parents in an uproar over this and demand Scouts remove all shooting and archery because "it's dangerous". Can't they just teach boys how to tuck the boto and girls to wrap their chests?
The camp is in my neck of the woods I knew a few guys that had there sons go to camp there and they did Scoutmaster stuff with the kids as well.
I thought they had went to air rifles years ago as they were all anti gun nuts back then, 20 or so years ago.
Kid archery stuff only. Most kids can't handle a 70# compound bow.
A tragedy, :(. Somebody didn't teach gun safety very well.
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Most unfortunate. On Maui in the 70s and into the 80s the Scouts had enlisted guys from the National Guard run the rifle range and help the kids earn their merit badge. All the rifles were single shot with wonky sights.
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Rumor was it was an unauthorized rifle at the event, and it was unattended.
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This kine stuff in this day and age will be the death of all 2a activities. Liberals will be in an uproar as this is ammo for their gun grab agenda.
How unfortunate that this has happened.
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Most unfortunate. On Maui in the 70s and into the 80s the Scouts had enlisted guys from the National Guard run the rifle range and help the kids earn their merit badge. All the rifles were single shot with wonky sights.
Still using single shot and wonky sights here on Oahu. Lucky if they hit the target at all
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Update.
3 to face firearms offenses
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/20/3-adults-face-firearms-offenses-shooting-death-minor-big-island-boy-scouts-camp/
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It's unknown if this was an actual boy scout event, or it was someone's rec fire at the boy scout range. I'm thinking it's the latter.
People getting sloppy with range safety or don't know how to safely run a range.
My experience on the Big Island. I was at MM16 range and there was only one other guy shooting rifle next to me. I tell the guy if he could stop shooting so I could go downrange to change my target, he says okay. I walk down a hundred yards and change the target, no problem. Halfway walking back to the firing line the guy is shooting already. I hear stuff like that is common on ranges without RSO"s. Also muzzling people. Leaving garbage and trash on the range. People don't know any better or don't care about range rules and safety.
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You should see Manuka, you want a dump.
Some clown here disparaged why I wanted a real range on the BI, as he is a hunter (FUDD) or something and does not need one.
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It's unknown if this was an actual boy scout event, or it was someone's rec fire at the boy scout range. I'm thinking it's the latter.
People getting sloppy with range safety or don't know how to safely run a range.
My experience on the Big Island. I was at MM16 range and there was only one other guy shooting rifle next to me. I tell the guy if he could stop shooting so I could go downrange to change my target, he says okay. I walk down a hundred yards and change the target, no problem. Halfway walking back to the firing line the guy is shooting already. I hear stuff like that is common on ranges without RSO"s. Also muzzling people. Leaving garbage and trash on the range. People don't know any better or don't care about range rules and safety.
This is why people need to learn and stress safety for noobs. When I first got into shooting, I was educated about it from Guy at 808GC since I was 99% indoor shooting. Then I met the HDF people and events which stress outdoor range safety. This has put good practices that I follow and pass on to friends who are noobs as well.
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Update.
3 to face firearms offenses
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/20/3-adults-face-firearms-offenses-shooting-death-minor-big-island-boy-scouts-camp/
WOW! 18 guns recovered….some cops are gonna score some freebies. 😏
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WOW! 18 guns recovered….some cops are gonna score some freebies. 😏
Good story, setting a gun down, caused it to go off, yeah right.
Guns do that all the time.
Looks like they are throwing the book at them to see what "sticks".
Yeah those guns are GONE!
Typical Big Island police.
At least we know where our cops live, so they aren't too obnoxious.
:love:
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Looks like they are throwing the book at them to see what "sticks".
Makes for good story for local politicians to stop any future access to shooting areas for the BI.
"Those guns just go off and kill people!"
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/10/18/criminal-investigation-into-deadly-shooting-big-island-boy-scouts-camp-hits-roadblock/
it all makes sense now
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Side tangent...
"Boy Scouts" is now just called "Scouts BSA" since girls can now attend the Pack or Troop.
(Actually, it's not a bad thing because it is easier on families who have daughters that can now participate in the same after-school activities instead of sitting around waiting for the brothers to finish their activities.)
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Side tangent...
"Boy Scouts" is now just called "Scouts BSA" since girls can now attend the Pack or Troop.
(Actually, it's not a bad thing because it is easier on families who have daughters that can now participate in the same after-school activities instead of sitting around waiting for the brothers to finish their activities.)
So do boys get to join the Girl Scouts (w/o gender adjustments :crazy:) ?
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So do boys get to join the Girl Scouts (w/o gender adjustments :crazy:) ?
And change the name from Girl Scouts to just Scouts.
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So do boys get to join the Girl Scouts (w/o gender adjustments :crazy:) ?
All scouts are equal, but some scouts are more equal than others.
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/10/18/criminal-investigation-into-deadly-shooting-big-island-boy-scouts-camp-hits-roadblock/
it all makes sense now
BI is big, but a small population.
Lots of churches and a small town atmosphere.
It doesn't surprise me that guys working in the prosecutors office
were mentoring Boy scouts.
Scouting is very big here.
Our local Honokaa scouts are sponsored by the Hongwanji temple.
I guess the Catholics got out of that business here.
Church is right next to the Temple, so all the kids are well served.
Small town.
The only question I have is what is a very pricey semi auto AK style rifle doing at a boy scout camp?
That is not what you normally use to teach a kid how to shoot.
If only on the basis of the cost of ammo.
Probably it is the fact that there is a range, the cops won't fuk with you, and adults can blast away.
There are no public rifle ranges on the BI.
:( situation all around