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Title: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 07, 2022, 09:45:52 PM
Contrary to unpopular opinion...and because our local government is doing such a great job with providing a safe, secure environment ..we have nothing to worry about..all you need is a big dog
and if you ever find yourself in a "Scary " situation “As soon as you’re able to call 911, do so right away.” - Sgt Kim

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/suspect-charged-after-stabbing-with-pocket-knife/ (https://www.khon2.com/local-news/suspect-charged-after-stabbing-with-pocket-knife/)

https://www.kitv.com/news/rash-of-crimes-in-kalihi-pushing-mom-and-pop-shop-out-of-business/article_876a0aa0-2d97-11ed-8ec2-eb2a3cd636f9.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/rash-of-crimes-in-kalihi-pushing-mom-and-pop-shop-out-of-business/article_876a0aa0-2d97-11ed-8ec2-eb2a3cd636f9.html)

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/03/authorities-urge-vigilance-amid-rash-violent-home-invasions-honolulu/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/03/authorities-urge-vigilance-amid-rash-violent-home-invasions-honolulu/)

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/05/hpd-responding-aggravated-assault-waianae/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/05/hpd-responding-aggravated-assault-waianae/)

https://www.khon2.com/local-news/stabbing-in-hawaii-kai-leaves-man-in-emergency-room/ (https://www.khon2.com/local-news/stabbing-in-hawaii-kai-leaves-man-in-emergency-room/)

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/05/honolulu-police-investigating-following-2-stabbings-east-oahu/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/05/honolulu-police-investigating-following-2-stabbings-east-oahu/)


Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: aieahound on September 07, 2022, 09:56:01 PM
  :thumbsup:
Bingo !

Still hope I make it to hearing but preparing testimony.
This is all like in the past two weeks !
Obviously there’s a need/justification for carrying.

Thanks Ren.  :shaka:

P.S. Toads and Lee and whatever the new chief’s name is should take their heads out of the sand and put it up…….
This is insane. They need to meet the guys applying for permits at the range.
Not for the crazy qualifying that over 50% of the cops couldn’t pass. Just to see how responsible and upstanding these folks are.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: hvybarrels on September 07, 2022, 10:31:55 PM
Make sure your taxes are up to date so that as your lifeblood oozes out on the pavement you’ll die knowing you were a good and loyal citizen.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 08, 2022, 05:58:45 AM
These restrictions, protocols, and training that "they" are implementing into the CCW permit process shows that "they" do not trust the law-abiding citizen.

It also shows their personal ideologies and beliefs as far as gun ownership and rights.  As professionals they cannot do this but then again, this is Hawaii with its immature leadership.

The typical law-abiding citizen of the United States know what is right or wrong.  They believe strongly in their rights and know the difference between rights and priviledge.

Hawaii's LE and Politicians are afraid of this.  Their courage, actions, and demeanor depend solely on the fact that they are the only ones with guns and the rest of us can suck wind.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 08, 2022, 06:57:13 AM
Ren, you're preaching to the choir, but it's ok.
Maybe some elected official will catch the hint.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Rocky on September 08, 2022, 07:59:17 AM
Another reason.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/10/live-shopo-holds-news-conference-discuss-chronic-understaffing-hpd/

“This dangerous understaffing is an open secret within the department,” he added, calling the shortages a “dire public health crisis.
"Right now, the HPD has over 300 vacancies and that’s expected to grow over the next several years.
The police union said another 193 officers are eligible to retire and there aren’t enough replacements in the current pool of new recruits."

     Well I guess if you want to carry, you can always join HPD  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 08, 2022, 08:04:29 AM
we should also add the shooting down at Hau Bush last night as evidence that crackheads are rampant
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: aletheuo137 on September 08, 2022, 08:39:03 AM
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Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 08, 2022, 08:46:39 AM
Another reason.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/10/live-shopo-holds-news-conference-discuss-chronic-understaffing-hpd/

“This dangerous understaffing is an open secret within the department,” he added, calling the shortages a “dire public health crisis.
"Right now, the HPD has over 300 vacancies and that’s expected to grow over the next several years.
The police union said another 193 officers are eligible to retire and there aren’t enough replacements in the current pool of new recruits."

     Well I guess if you want to carry, you can always join HPD  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Police officers are probably getting tired and discouraged when their efforts end up with the prosecution failing to follow through with convictions and the same criminals are released.  Again and again.

The Hawaii revolving door syndrome.

Also Hawaii's Best and the Finest no longer see Law Enforcement as a satisfying career where they can make a difference. 

And if Hawaii's Best and Finest are not filling the ranks of HPD, just guess who and what are filling those ranks.

Yep......

Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 08, 2022, 10:25:04 AM
Police officers are probably getting tired and discouraged when their efforts end up with the prosecution failing to follow through with convictions and the same criminals are released.  Again and again.

The Hawaii revolving door syndrome.

Also Hawaii's Best and the Finest no longer see Law Enforcement as a satisfying career where they can make a difference. 

And if Hawaii's Best and Finest are not filling the ranks of HPD, just guess who and what are filling those ranks.

Yep......

Maybe the "Best and the Finest" are now realizing they can't get away with their old tactics on the street due to all the video cameras in their cars, on their bodies, on people's phones, installed on homes and businesses, ...

Time to look for another ego-satisfying occupation that requires no formal training, like Governor, or lawmaker, ....
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: groveler on September 08, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
These restrictions, protocols, and training that "they" are implementing into the CCW permit process shows that "they" do not trust the law-abiding citizen.

It also shows their personal ideologies and beliefs as far as gun ownership and rights.  As professionals they cannot do this but then again, this is Hawaii with its immature leadership.

The typical law-abiding citizen of the United States know what is right or wrong.  They believe strongly in their rights and know the difference between rights and priviledge.

Hawaii's LE and Politicians are afraid of this.  Their courage, actions, and demeanor depend solely on the fact that they are the only ones with guns and the rest of us can suck wind.
"Their courage, actions, and demeanor depend solely on the fact that they are the only ones with guns and the rest of us can suck wind."

I got really really BAD NEWS FOR THOSE GUYS.
I'm pretty damn certain everyone here follows the law.
I even more certain that we are way outnumbered by those that ignore their silly assed un-constitutional laws.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 08, 2022, 11:23:28 AM
Maybe the "Best and the Finest" are now realizing they can't get away with their old tactics on the street due to all the video cameras in their cars, on their bodies, on people's phones, installed on homes and businesses, ...

Time to look for another ego-satisfying occupation that requires no formal training, like Governor, or lawmaker, ....

Dan Goo who would testify often prior to his passing stated something like: "When I first started HPD, I was excited that I would be able to help people. But I learned within the first few weeks that instead I was a glorified note taker. Almost every call, I would arrive after the fact.  WHen I retired, I had to turn in my badge, gun, radio, and handcuffs.  Now I'm a regular guy like everyone else".
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: s15project on September 08, 2022, 05:13:42 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/09/investigation-underway-into-aggravated-assault-ala-moana-beach-park/

5 pm news just said the man was slashed/stabbed in the neck.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 09, 2022, 08:03:15 AM
add
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/fast-food-workers-held-up-by-armed-robbers-in-kapahulu/ (https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/fast-food-workers-held-up-by-armed-robbers-in-kapahulu/)
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 10, 2022, 01:27:51 PM
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/19-year-old-woman-sexually-assaulted-in-dark-public-stairwell-in-kalihi/article_594499e0-3154-11ed-969c-d7eede18cf70.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/19-year-old-woman-sexually-assaulted-in-dark-public-stairwell-in-kalihi/article_594499e0-3154-11ed-969c-d7eede18cf70.html)

Honolulu Police are looking for two male suspects after a woman was sexually assaulted in the Kalihi area late Wednesday night.

Police say the 19-year-old woman was walking home along the 2300 block of Wilson Street when she was pulled into a public stairwell and was sexually assaulted by 'strong compulsion.' The victim did not know the suspects.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 10, 2022, 01:36:03 PM
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/19-year-old-woman-sexually-assaulted-in-dark-public-stairwell-in-kalihi/article_594499e0-3154-11ed-969c-d7eede18cf70.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/19-year-old-woman-sexually-assaulted-in-dark-public-stairwell-in-kalihi/article_594499e0-3154-11ed-969c-d7eede18cf70.html)

Honolulu Police are looking for two male suspects after a woman was sexually assaulted in the Kalihi area late Wednesday night.

Police say the 19-year-old woman was walking home along the 2300 block of Wilson Street when she was pulled into a public stairwell and was sexually assaulted by 'strong compulsion.' The victim did not know the suspects.

Too bad she cant ccw anyways due to being under 21.

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Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 10, 2022, 01:54:09 PM
Too bad she cant ccw anyways due to being under 21.

Ask yourself whether the perps know how old she is.

If everyone eligible to carry is issued a license when they apply, the perps won't know who is carrying and who isn't.  They'd have to have more information to be sure their intended target can't fight back.

Her age is irrelevant, because right now NOBODY can CCW.  She could have been 26 and just as defenseless.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: hvybarrels on September 11, 2022, 10:21:44 AM
Strong compulsion sounds like weasel words for “they beat her up pretty bad”
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 11, 2022, 11:55:00 AM
Strong compulsion sounds like weasel words for “they beat her up pretty bad”

Sounds more like a euphemism for "coerced just short of causing significant injuries", probably because she complied rather than suffer a beating on top of the sexual assault.

JMO
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: hvybarrels on September 11, 2022, 12:16:42 PM
What’s a weak compulsion?

Rubber bands and spitballs?
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: RSN172 on September 11, 2022, 01:05:34 PM
Sounds more like a euphemism for "coerced just short of causing significant injuries", probably because she complied rather than suffer a beating on top of the sexual assault.

JMO
Well Sgt Chris Kim said to comply with their demands and when you get a chance, call 911.

To me, following police advice or even calling them is a good way to get yourself killed or seriously injured.



Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: zippz on September 12, 2022, 09:16:10 AM
What’s a weak compulsion?

Rubber bands and spitballs?

"Strong compulsion" means the use of or attempt to use one or more of the following to overcome a person:

     (1)  A threat, express or implied, that places a person in fear of bodily injury to the individual or another person, or in fear that the person or another person will be kidnapped;

     (2)  A dangerous instrument; or

     (3)  Physical force."

  "Compulsion" means absence of consent, or a threat, express or implied, that places a person in fear of public humiliation, property damage, or financial loss."
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Rocky on September 12, 2022, 09:28:45 AM
Legal definition via "Law Insider"
Strong compulsion [sic] is any intrusion of any part of a person’s body into the genital opening.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 12, 2022, 01:19:36 PM
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/man-arrested-after-breaking-into-kapiolani-blvd-home/ (https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/man-arrested-after-breaking-into-kapiolani-blvd-home/)

The Honolulu Police Department arrested a man in his 40s on Monday on suspicion of burglary, unauthorized possession of confidential personal information and assault at a home on Kapiolani Blvd.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 12, 2022, 06:41:14 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/13/ems-man-seriously-injured-apparent-stabbing/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/13/ems-man-seriously-injured-apparent-stabbing/)

A 35-year-old man was seriously injured in an apparent stabbing in Honolulu on Monday evening.

Authorities said the incident happened about 5:05 p.m. at Keeaumoku Avenue and South Beretania Street.

The man was apparently stabbed several times, and Honolulu EMS administered life-saving treatment before transporting him to a hospital.

Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 13, 2022, 07:25:06 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/14/hpd-investigating-stabbing-chinatown-that-left-man-serious-condition/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/14/hpd-investigating-stabbing-chinatown-that-left-man-serious-condition/)

Honolulu police are investigating a stabbing in Chinatown that left a 32-year-old man serious condition.

Authorities responded around 12:40 p.m. to the scene on North Hotel Street.

Emergency Medical Services said they treated a man with abdominal wounds and transported him to a nearby trauma center.

HPD said the victim is uncooperative and no arrests have been made at this time.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 13, 2022, 10:19:24 PM
All kine stuff happening all over this fricken island.  Had one smash and grab at a jewelry store at Hilton Hawaiian Village.

This place going nuts.

Meanwhile, HPD Chief is busy figuring out how to make the CCW process A PAIN IN THE A$$ FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

Wonderful.  Just wonderful.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 14, 2022, 09:58:42 AM
All kine stuff happening all over this fricken island.  Had one smash and grab at a jewelry store at Hilton Hawaiian Village.

This place going nuts.

Meanwhile, HPD Chief is busy figuring out how to make the CCW process A PAIN IN THE A$$ FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.

Wonderful.  Just wonderful.
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yep, that's what I see.
To that end, I just got a bunch of pepper spray cans to give to friends and coworkers. (Especially the pretty gals)
I had to do something for these oblivious people.

Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: drck1000 on September 14, 2022, 10:28:12 AM
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yep, that's what I see.
To that end, I just got a bunch of pepper spray cans to give to friends and coworkers. (Especially the pretty gals)
I had to do something for these oblivious people.
How you filter out the cuckoo ones?   ;D
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Rocky on September 14, 2022, 01:42:18 PM
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yep, that's what I see.
To that end, I just got a bunch of pepper spray cans to give to friends and coworkers. (Especially the pretty gals)
I had to do something for these oblivious people.
You are too kind but only enabling those "oblivious people".  :love:
If they come to harm, they will then realize the wisdom of your words and become pro 2a ! :D
Pretty gals need guns too !
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 15, 2022, 04:34:00 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/16/suspect-arrested-after-allegedly-robbing-2-honolulu-businesses-2-days/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/16/suspect-arrested-after-allegedly-robbing-2-honolulu-businesses-2-days/)

Honolulu police have captured a suspected gunman accused of holding up two businesses in two days.

Law enforcement sources say police used surveillance video to link the suspect to both crimes.

Along Kapahulu Avenue on Thursday, businesses were on high alert after the string of recent robberies.

The latest happened a little after 8 p.m. Tuesda
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 15, 2022, 07:00:08 PM
So per sgt kim, the business owner must change things, like making deposits mid day instead of at night.


Funny how we dont see hpd making statements like keeping felons behind bars or stricter sentences for career criminals.

HPd wants u to be a victim and will only chime in if it affects their personal safety. Like how they pushed for theag bans after diamond head and other laws.

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Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 17, 2022, 08:24:29 AM
How you filter out the cuckoo ones?   ;D
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All the pretty ones are cuckoo. This is a fact of nature. (google "hot-crazy matrix")
So therefore, pretty cuckoos attract the stupid male cuckoos, that's why the pretty cuckoos get my anti-cuckoo spray cans.
It's not rocket science. :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: hvybarrels on September 17, 2022, 10:38:59 AM
Nothing like getting an amber alert in the middle of the night just to remind me that my relaxing sleep was a lie and all the kidnappers, rapists, and human traffic slave traders seem to think it’s open season

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/17/hawaii-island-police-issue-alert-missing-15-year-old-girl-believed-be-danger/

https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/parents-raise-concern-over-campus-safety-following-recent-instances-at-hawaii-schools/article_c8cd2a12-33ec-11ed-b814-33d63b8e6da1.html
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 17, 2022, 11:58:25 AM
Nothing like getting an amber alert in the middle of the night just to remind me that my relaxing sleep was a lie and all the kidnappers, rapists, and human traffic slave traders seem to think it’s open season

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/09/17/hawaii-island-police-issue-alert-missing-15-year-old-girl-believed-be-danger/

https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/parents-raise-concern-over-campus-safety-following-recent-instances-at-hawaii-schools/article_c8cd2a12-33ec-11ed-b814-33d63b8e6da1.html

I received the Amber Alert via my RING App's "Neighbors" Feed.  It came in about 15 hours ago, so sometime around 7:30PM.

I then got the blaring alarm on my phone at 1:43am.

Typical government actors keeping the people of Hawaii "safe!"  Why did it take from around 7:30pm until 1:43am to get the Amber Alert through the phone?  Did someone lose the password again?

Seriously, imagine being a child abductor in Hawaii and knowing you have about 6 extra hours to evade detection before the public is alerted.  Saves the government from immediately letting him back out on the street with no bail....

I have to wonder if the airport was alerted earlier than 2am so they could be looking for them in the 6 hours that passed before the public was alerted?

 :wtf:
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 17, 2022, 12:30:01 PM
Gee, in the time lapse between the incident and the public being alerted he could have been in Vegas by then. ::)
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 17, 2022, 12:34:54 PM

P.S. Toads and Lee and whatever the new chief’s name is should take their heads out of the sand and put it up…….
This is insane. They need to meet the guys applying for permits at the range.
Not for the crazy qualifying that over 50% of the cops couldn’t pass. Just to see how responsible and upstanding these folks are.

Yeah, they picking on the wrong guys.  They should go after and spend resources on the criminals.  We are the good guys.

While they are figuring out how to keep us down, the criminals are running amok all over the place.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 17, 2022, 02:35:32 PM
Yeah, they picking on the wrong guys.  They should go after and spend resources on the criminals.  We are the good guys.

While they are figuring out how to keep us down, the criminals are running amok all over the place.
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I wish the chief of police could see this
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 17, 2022, 03:06:05 PM
So they found the missing girl now who was with the perp.
Curious to know the rest of the story
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 17, 2022, 03:10:36 PM
So they found the missing girl now who was with the perp.
Curious to know the rest of the story

Who was Hunter Biden?
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 17, 2022, 03:19:21 PM
So they found the missing girl now who was with the perp.
Curious to know the rest of the story

What's been reported so far ...

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2022/09/17/breaking-news/hawaii-island-police-issue-amber-alert-for-missing-15-year-old-girl/
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 18, 2022, 07:22:47 AM
What's been reported so far ...

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2022/09/17/breaking-news/hawaii-island-police-issue-amber-alert-for-missing-15-year-old-girl/
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That star advertiser story keeps using the term "alleged" kidnapping.
HNN story says they went to a popular Hilo cafe where there were many people.

It's pretty obvious that there is more to this story.
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Apparently, the perp actually drugged and raped the girl.
I say we protect ourselves by giving this dude the deluxe boat ride.
I wanna start a charter boat company giving free swimming lessons.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 18, 2022, 02:59:57 PM
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/man-stabbed-mulitple-times-to-his-face-on-kalihi-street/ (https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/man-stabbed-mulitple-times-to-his-face-on-kalihi-street/)
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: stangzilla on September 21, 2022, 12:04:12 PM
yesterday I see a moped rider with a Samurai sword strapped on his back
balisong is illegal, but if you want to pack a Samurai sword, you are more than welcome to
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 21, 2022, 12:10:43 PM
yesterday I see a moped rider with a Samurai sword strapped on his back
balisong is illegal, but if you want to pack a Samurai sword, you are more than welcome to

Sgt. Kim said that as soon as you're able to, call 911.  If I ever get attacked by someone with a sword, I won't be able to call 911.

My hands or arms will probably be hacked off and I haven't practiced to dial with my tongue or nose.  Or maybe my head will be hacked off too so no matter.  I'm dead.

Sgt. Kim, the only way I'll be able to call 911 is after I do a mag dump on that f**ker.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 21, 2022, 12:33:04 PM
Sgt. Kim said that as soon as you're able to, call 911.  If I ever get attacked by someone with a sword, I won't be able to call 911.

My hands or arms will probably be hacked off and I haven't practiced to dial with my tongue or nose.  Or maybe my head will be hacked off too so no matter.  I'm dead.

Sgt. Kim, the only way I'll be able to call 911 is after I do a mag dump on that f**ker.

Sgt. Kim hasn't been to the Waikiki 7/11.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 21, 2022, 12:34:16 PM
yesterday I see a moped rider with a Samurai sword strapped on his back
balisong is illegal, but if you want to pack a Samurai sword, you are more than welcome to

Balisongs will soon be legal along butterfly knives. HIFICO has a lawsuit already filed and  pending.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: hvybarrels on September 21, 2022, 01:34:26 PM
In Fiji there were plenty of guys walking down the road with big machetes just in case the sugarcane decided to make a surprise attack
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 21, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
In Fiji there were plenty of guys walking down the road with big machetes just in case the sugarcane decided to make a surprise attack

They are legal here to carry open or concealled.  But in NV, they are illegal to conceal.  Yet 1 can open carry without a permit.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: drck1000 on September 21, 2022, 01:43:10 PM
In Fiji there were plenty of guys walking down the road with big machetes just in case the sugarcane decided to make a surprise attack
Work tools! 

A Filipino family (mom, dad, and son) did yard maintenance at my dad's house.  I saw the dad make short work of some decently thick shrubs with his machete.  Was  :o
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 21, 2022, 09:49:15 PM
https://www.kitv.com/news/robberies-shootings-assaults-residents-say-crime-in-kalihi-is-exploding/article_99179d2a-3a27-11ed-8f07-ff0e8981ee0e.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/robberies-shootings-assaults-residents-say-crime-in-kalihi-is-exploding/article_99179d2a-3a27-11ed-8f07-ff0e8981ee0e.html)

Kalihi Valley residents are concerned with a major uptick in crime and they're pleading with state leaders for help.

"We had a 19 year old that was assaulted -- sexually assaulted -- about a week and a half ago," said Kalihi Valley resident Michael McDonald. "And we've had other general crime in the area, you know, so everybody's kind of concerned in my neighborhood."

Surveillance videos from McDonald's neighbors show trespassers looking through mailboxes, trying to get into cars and stealing things right off front porches.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 22, 2022, 12:10:47 AM
https://www.kitv.com/news/robberies-shootings-assaults-residents-say-crime-in-kalihi-is-exploding/article_99179d2a-3a27-11ed-8f07-ff0e8981ee0e.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/robberies-shootings-assaults-residents-say-crime-in-kalihi-is-exploding/article_99179d2a-3a27-11ed-8f07-ff0e8981ee0e.html)

Kalihi Valley residents are concerned with a major uptick in crime and they're pleading with state leaders for help.

"We had a 19 year old that was assaulted -- sexually assaulted -- about a week and a half ago," said Kalihi Valley resident Michael McDonald. "And we've had other general crime in the area, you know, so everybody's kind of concerned in my neighborhood."

Surveillance videos from McDonald's neighbors show trespassers looking through mailboxes, trying to get into cars and stealing things right off front porches.


Hypothetically:

Crimes rises & gov't is unable to stop it.  When they do catch the perps, property crimes normally go unpunished or with a minor wrist-slap.  Violent offenders get probation or no jail time because people are afraid to testify or there's nothing other than witness testimony to present at trial: no weapon, no video, etc.

Enter the Supreme Court.  With the state's "good cause" rule shot down (pun intended), the state must now make it possible for people to be armed in public.

Result:  If the issuance of Concealed Carry Licenses gets a few perps shot and/or killed, then crime suddenly takes a downward trend, the correlation will be a huge win for gun rights and a kick in the teeth for gun control activists. 

This exact scenario has played out in many cities across the US.  Arm the public, stop the criminals.

I remember the Detroit Police Chief telling people about 8 years ago to go out and buy a gun, because "we can't keep you safe."

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/aug/17/police-guns-detroit-crime-race-cost-issues

I think other city police have issued similar announcements in the wake of the pandemic and increases in violent crime.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 22, 2022, 05:54:27 AM
But.....but.....but....Sgt. Kim said......... ;) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Seriously though, I agree with Flapp.  Arm the public, stop the criminals.  I believe that once the criminal element knows citizens can carry firearms crime will go down.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: MarvintheMartian on September 22, 2022, 06:14:57 AM
Agree.  An armed society is a polite society.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on September 22, 2022, 08:51:53 AM
Guy gets shot with arrow down Chinatown last night.

Bad people will find a way to do bad things with or without a gun.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 22, 2022, 11:54:30 AM
Chinatown has been getting a lot of bad rap lately.  Who da hell is in charge there?  Is it that toads guy?
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 22, 2022, 12:15:17 PM
Chinatown has been getting a lot of bad rap lately.  Who da hell is in charge there?  Is it that toads guy?

Winner winner, we have a winner.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: hvybarrels on September 22, 2022, 06:17:27 PM
“I’m okay with the events that are unfolding currently.”

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ballotpedia-api4/files/thumbs/200/300/Karl-Rhoads.jpg)
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 24, 2022, 05:37:09 PM
Crime is up but not bad compared to mainland...
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/new-report-shows-crime-rates-up-in-hawaii-but-low-compared-to-mainland/article_d137f2de-3beb-11ed-97a0-bb0972d0c86f.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/new-report-shows-crime-rates-up-in-hawaii-but-low-compared-to-mainland/article_d137f2de-3beb-11ed-97a0-bb0972d0c86f.html)

Hey, its not that hot compared to the surface of the sun
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on September 26, 2022, 02:57:11 PM
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/increase-in-homicide-rape-other-violent-crimes-on-oahu/ (https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/increase-in-homicide-rape-other-violent-crimes-on-oahu/)

According to the MCCA survey, the Honolulu Police Department reported an increase in all four areas.
HOMICIDE
    2022: 15
    2021: 11

RAPE
    2022: 136
    2021: 112

ROBBERY
    2022: 428
    2021: 360

AGGRAVATED ASSAULT
    2022: 607
    2021: 592
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 26, 2022, 03:33:37 PM
Civil strife may very well be right around the corner.....

So we must PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!

But KHSC is CLOSED, CLOSED, CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!

So how are we to PREPARE, PREPARE, PREPARE!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

Like the young nephew in the movie "The Last Samurai" advised Tom Cruise when Tom was getting frustrated trying to beat the samurai master:

"Don't think.......do........"
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: drck1000 on September 26, 2022, 03:56:49 PM
Civil strife may very well be right around the corner.....

So we must PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!

But KHSC is CLOSED, CLOSED, CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!

So how are we to PREPARE, PREPARE, PREPARE!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

Like the young nephew in the movie "The Last Samurai" advised Tom Cruise when Tom was getting frustrated trying to beat the samurai master:

"Don't think.......do........"
"You too much mind. . . no mind"  ;D
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 26, 2022, 06:33:48 PM
"You too much mind. . . no mind"  ;D

That's it!  My bad.  I had a feeling I didn't get it quite right..... :rofl: :oops:

But yeah, that's what I was trying to get at, lol!!
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: RSN172 on September 26, 2022, 08:45:51 PM
You can practice in your garage or home. Get a BB or airsoft clone of your defensive weapon. You can practice cheaply and quietly.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 28, 2022, 07:52:00 AM
Natural disasters can strike at any time.  Hurricanes, Winter storms, you name it.  In severe situations, like what happened with Katrina in New Orleans and now potentially with Ian going up the Florida coast, how effective will LE be during these times?

These asshat millionaire Politicians forget that for the common citizen, hunkering down is probably one of the few options available to them.

They don't have security details to protect them, nor the ability to just jump on a plane to get out of there.

We definitely need to protect ourselves.  LE will be non-existent or extremely stretched to rely on.

And then there is the other catastrophe.  The social melt-down of law and order.  I don't know which is worse, natural or man-made disasters.  But the bottom line is when the SHTF, no one will come.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Rocky on September 28, 2022, 09:34:54 AM
"You too much mind. . . no mind"  ;D
Lost in translation  :rofl:
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Pancakes on October 01, 2022, 07:05:02 PM
Literally just called 911 because some kids were trashing a car on the street got a video of their car speeding away showed them the video, they took my name and number said they didn’t need a copy of the video and that’s it. I can’t say for 100% sure they won’t go after them or investigate it but seems like it. I’m hopeful they knew who it was and will catch them, but the vibe I got was they’re just going to let it go. It was a nice newer Acura SUV too.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on October 01, 2022, 07:06:59 PM
Literally just called 911 because some kids were trashing a car on the street got a video of their car speeding away showed them the video, they took my name and number said they didn’t need a copy of the video and that’s it. I can’t say for 100% sure they won’t go after them or investigate it but seems like it. I’m hopeful they knew who it was and will catch them, but the vibe I got was they’re just going to let it go. It was a nice newer Acura SUV too.

I'd leverage social media against these crumbs. Post it on Stolen Stuff HI and youtube
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on October 06, 2022, 05:10:27 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/10/06/investigation-underway-after-2-injured-apparent-home-invasion-aina-haina/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/10/06/investigation-underway-after-2-injured-apparent-home-invasion-aina-haina/)

Honolulu police are investigating a violent home invasion in Aina Haina on Wednesday evening that left two women injured.

Authorities said the incident happened around 6:30 p.m. on the mauka side of Kalanianaole Highway.

Police said a woman was watering her plants when a male suspect pushed her to the ground and held her at gunpoint. A second male suspect ran inside and attacked another woman in her bedroom demanding money.

Sources said the attackers fled in a white BMW.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on October 06, 2022, 05:30:00 PM
Can happen anywhere
https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/6-stabbed-1-dead-in-attack-on-las-vegas-strip/ (https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/6-stabbed-1-dead-in-attack-on-las-vegas-strip/)

Las Vegas police are investigating a stabbing attack on the Las Vegas Strip that left two people dead and six injured on Thursday. Police said the suspect used a large kitchen knife and was taken into custody.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: aieahound on October 08, 2022, 11:00:34 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-had-never-fired-gun-194601375.html

McAllister was stunned to find a man attempting to steal some of her items —including her dog. It was at that moment that she took matters into her own hands.

The 29-year-old yelled for the intruder to get out, but he was unphased. Fortunately, within her reach was the gun she kept stored. And although she had never used it before, she put her nervousness aside and grabbed it.

“All I did was turn around and grab the gun,” McAllister told WRAL. “I was fumbling with it. It’s my first time using it.”

McAllister added that she lifted the safety and did what she had to do.

“I just lifted it up, and I started shooting at him, wherever he was moving to, I just shot him out of the house,” she said.

When the police arrived to the scene, they found the thief, who has been identified as 20-year-old Malihk Giles, only about 200 yards from McAllister’s home with two gunshot wounds, one on his right lower leg and the other on his right side.

“ I know a lot of women are scared of guns,” says McAllister. “I feel those are the best protectors for us because we can’t fight a man. We can’t fight an intruder off.”

Although she’s still shaken up and it’s difficult for her to be alone at the moment, McAllister feels “stronger” now and ready for any other attempt at a home invasion in the future.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on October 08, 2022, 11:11:36 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-had-never-fired-gun-194601375.html

McAllister was stunned to find a man attempting to steal some of her items —including her dog. It was at that moment that she took matters into her own hands.

The 29-year-old yelled for the intruder to get out, but he was unphased. Fortunately, within her reach was the gun she kept stored. And although she had never used it before, she put her nervousness aside and grabbed it.

“All I did was turn around and grab the gun,” McAllister told WRAL. “I was fumbling with it. It’s my first time using it.”

McAllister added that she lifted the safety and did what she had to do.

“I just lifted it up, and I started shooting at him, wherever he was moving to, I just shot him out of the house,” she said.

When the police arrived to the scene, they found the thief, who has been identified as 20-year-old Malihk Giles, only about 200 yards from McAllister’s home with two gunshot wounds, one on his right lower leg and the other on his right side.

“ I know a lot of women are scared of guns,” says McAllister. “I feel those are the best protectors for us because we can’t fight a man. We can’t fight an intruder off.”

Although she’s still shaken up and it’s difficult for her to be alone at the moment, McAllister feels “stronger” now and ready for any other attempt at a home invasion in the future.


Women should take heed of that advice
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: groveler on October 08, 2022, 01:29:07 PM
Women should take heed of that advice
My wife will do a double tap on an intruder,  put a third in the head
and then bitch about the mess.
Then we call the neighbor with the backhoe.
We know lots of discreet cleaning ladies.
Y'all just got to do it right.

Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: punaperson on October 08, 2022, 01:32:27 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-had-never-fired-gun-194601375.html

McAllister was stunned to find a man attempting to steal some of her items —including her dog. It was at that moment that she took matters into her own hands.

The 29-year-old yelled for the intruder to get out, but he was unphased. Fortunately, within her reach was the gun she kept stored. And although she had never used it before, she put her nervousness aside and grabbed it.

“All I did was turn around and grab the gun,” McAllister told WRAL. “I was fumbling with it. It’s my first time using it.”

McAllister added that she lifted the safety and did what she had to do.

“I just lifted it up, and I started shooting at him, wherever he was moving to, I just shot him out of the house,” she said.

When the police arrived to the scene, they found the thief, who has been identified as 20-year-old Malihk Giles, only about 200 yards from McAllister’s home with two gunshot wounds, one on his right lower leg and the other on his right side.

“ I know a lot of women are scared of guns,” says McAllister. “I feel those are the best protectors for us because we can’t fight a man. We can’t fight an intruder off.”

Although she’s still shaken up and it’s difficult for her to be alone at the moment, McAllister feels “stronger” now and ready for any other attempt at a home invasion in the future.
Never fired a gun. Zero training. Stopped a criminal engaged in criminality. Hit a moving target twice. I don't wanna hear any bullsh*t about "proficiency testing". F*ck off.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 08, 2022, 01:39:21 PM
Can happen anywhere
https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/6-stabbed-1-dead-in-attack-on-las-vegas-strip/ (https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/6-stabbed-1-dead-in-attack-on-las-vegas-strip/)

Las Vegas police are investigating a stabbing attack on the Las Vegas Strip that left two people dead and six injured on Thursday. Police said the suspect used a large kitchen knife and was taken into custody.
Why we both ccw in vegas

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Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on October 08, 2022, 01:54:16 PM
My wife will do a double tap on an intruder,  put a third in the head
and then bitch about the mess.
Then we call the neighbor with the backhoe.
We know lots of discreet cleaning ladies.
Y'all just got to do it right.

step away from Borderlands
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: groveler on October 08, 2022, 03:07:13 PM
step away from Borderlands
Hey Ren,
Not sure what that means?
My point is do not depend on the government,
for local crime issues.
We are on our own.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on October 08, 2022, 04:45:35 PM
HK suspects BOLO
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjd9UeKvaoO/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=52167baa-bae3-4fe2-8075-1d0e37a632a3 (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjd9UeKvaoO/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=52167baa-bae3-4fe2-8075-1d0e37a632a3)
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 08, 2022, 05:38:21 PM
Can happen anywhere
https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/6-stabbed-1-dead-in-attack-on-las-vegas-strip/ (https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/6-stabbed-1-dead-in-attack-on-las-vegas-strip/)

Las Vegas police are investigating a stabbing attack on the Las Vegas Strip that left two people dead and six injured on Thursday. Police said the suspect used a large kitchen knife and was taken into custody.
Also an illegal alien and came from CA 1 day prior .

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Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on October 09, 2022, 08:09:05 AM
Also an illegal alien and came from CA 1 day prior .

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I had dinner with my son last night.
He recently moved his family to Vegas.
He said that since most businesses on the strip prohibit firearms, no law-abiding citizen is likely to have a firearm in that area.
His ccw application is pending.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 09, 2022, 08:19:33 AM
================
I had dinner with my son last night.
He recently moved his family to Vegas.
He said that since most businesses on the strip prohibit firearms, no law-abiding citizen is likely to have a firearm in that area.
His ccw application is pending.
True, but not illegal to ignore the sign.

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Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: oldfart on October 09, 2022, 08:34:41 AM
True, but not illegal to ignore the sign.

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what do these signs say???
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: RSN172 on October 09, 2022, 08:59:10 AM
In NV, I ignore all gun free zone signs.  No one will know I am carrying and if I ever needed it…..you all know da betta to have and not need, den need and not have saying.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 09, 2022, 12:20:32 PM
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what do these signs say???
Theyre not in japanese so i no unda-stan.

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Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 09, 2022, 12:41:12 PM
True, but not illegal to ignore the sign.

That's true -- in Vegas.  The worst that will happen is you'll be asked to leave with your firearm assuming they know you have one.  If you don't do something to give that away, there should be no problem.  If they want to be nasty, they could trespass you on the spot, and you'll be risking arrest if you come back/stay.

Other places, however, do assign "the weight of the law" to their private business' Gun Free Zone signs.  If you violate the sign's directive to be disarmed, you can be charged with a crime.  That's on top of any trespass consequences.

So, know your local ordinances, and plan accordingly.
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Rocky on October 09, 2022, 03:24:18 PM
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what do these signs say???

5 x Odds  :D
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: groveler on October 10, 2022, 01:00:26 PM
Theyre not in japanese so i no unda-stan.

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Personally I only understand signs in Mandarin.
Sort of.
It takes me a while to remember.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: ren on October 10, 2022, 01:09:17 PM
Personally I only understand signs in Mandarin.
Sort of.
It takes me a while to remember.
 :thumbsup:

Comrade!
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 10, 2022, 01:22:53 PM
Personally I only understand signs in Mandarin.
Sort of.
It takes me a while to remember.
 :thumbsup:

https://youtu.be/c9lh7lqZojc
Title: Re: We need to protect ourselves.
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 10, 2022, 01:34:50 PM
Personally I only understand signs in Mandarin.
Sort of.
It takes me a while to remember.
 :thumbsup:

We were in Vegas and had those titty bar card passer outers. Mexican guy and I spoke Mandarin when he tried to hand me the card. Guess what, fakka spoke Mandarin too.  Luckily, Mrs.CMO speaks and stepped in.  But daaayyymmm, I got called out hard.