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Title: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: macsak on September 27, 2022, 08:08:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLb0QeCQF_I
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on September 27, 2022, 08:43:37 PM
At this point sending the democrats packing in the next election has become an existential issue, especially for folks like us living in ground zero

(https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/01/es-hawaii-map-composite-twin-up-inset01.jpg?w=1320)
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 27, 2022, 09:51:34 PM
At this point sending the democrats packing in the next election has become an existential issue, especially for folks like us living in ground zero

(https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/01/es-hawaii-map-composite-twin-up-inset01.jpg?w=1320)

Yeah, if that ever happens to us concealed carry would be the least of our worries.  Everybody would be packing heat and those who cried and lived "ban guns!" will cry me a river, lol!

3rd world conditions?  More like the end of man.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 27, 2022, 10:44:12 PM
Yeah, if that ever happens to us concealed carry would be the least of our worries.  Everybody would be packing heat and those who cried and lived "ban guns!" will cry me a river, lol!

3rd world conditions?  More like the end of man.
Like when they tried to buy a gun in early 2020. "Sorry, no can sell. YOU voted for this".

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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 28, 2022, 12:51:48 AM
At this point sending the democrats packing in the next election has become an existential issue, especially for folks like us living in ground zero

(https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/01/es-hawaii-map-composite-twin-up-inset01.jpg?w=1320)

Saw where N. Korea resumed their missile tests, firing one off a few days ago.

I guess it's time for Biden to start writing checks to Kim Jong-Un so he won't keep threatening the US with annihilation.

Just a continuation of the Obama National Security Policy.  Feed the alligators, and hope that keeps them from attacking you.   :wtf:
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: groveler on September 28, 2022, 05:06:30 AM
Yeah, if that ever happens to us concealed carry would be the least of our worries.  Everybody would be packing heat and those who cried and lived "ban guns!" will cry me a river, lol!

3rd world conditions?  More like the end of man.
I owe you a beer!
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: QUIETShooter on September 28, 2022, 06:49:40 AM
I owe you a beer!
 :thumbsup:

 :shaka:
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Rocky on September 28, 2022, 09:48:50 AM
Cannot bomb Waikiki, too many T-bars.
Move detonation to Pearl or Hickam as more likely targets.
Also correct wind direction and speed
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=150&lat=21.303449&lng=-157.8529358&hob_opt=0&hob_ft=0&casualties=1&fallout=1&fallout_wind=12&ff=50&fallout_angle=40&zm=13
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on September 28, 2022, 01:30:33 PM
Cannot bomb Waikiki, too many T-bars.
Move detonation to Pearl or Hickam as more likely targets.
Also correct wind direction and speed
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/?&kt=150&lat=21.303449&lng=-157.8529358&hob_opt=0&hob_ft=0&casualties=1&fallout=1&fallout_wind=12&ff=50&fallout_angle=40&zm=13

I though the same thing at first but maybe the fallout is so tall that it is more influenced by the rotation of the planet rather than the wind speed
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 28, 2022, 02:22:39 PM
I though the same thing at first but maybe the fallout is so tall that it is more influenced by the rotation of the planet rather than the wind speed

The earth doesn't rotate.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on September 28, 2022, 05:40:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWKA67X91F4



Phase I of WWIII has already begun with the US empire's proxy war with Russia via Ukraine.

Phase II of WWIII bringing in China will begin as soon as the US empire begins sending long-range weaponry to the Republic of China (Taiwan), as they did in pre-2022 Ukraine.

Let's not forget the US imperial mantra, "Russia is bad; Trump, Putin, and Xi are evil; and China is next on the hit list".



Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: ren on September 28, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWKA67X91F4

Phase I of WWIII has already begun with the US empire's proxy war with Russia via Ukraine.

Phase II of WWIII bringing in China will begin as soon as the US empire begins sending long-range weaponry to the Republic of China (Taiwan), as they did in pre-2022 Ukraine.

Let's not forget the US imperial mantra, "Russia is bad; Trump, Putin, and Xi are evil; and China is next on the hit list".

you forgot Italy's new PM
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on September 28, 2022, 05:51:59 PM
you forgot Italy's new PM
Is the ChiCom fluffer back at it again attacking the "free" world countries?
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on September 28, 2022, 05:57:10 PM
Saw where N. Korea resumed their missile tests, firing one off a few days ago.
The first nuke would be targeted on Pearl Harbor of course.  Lousy aiming and the likelihood of a second missile is what could take out Honolulu.

Those things are expensive, only to be used on high value targets.  What of value is there in Honolulu other than Pearl Harbor?
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: macsak on September 28, 2022, 07:18:08 PM
and the ICBM silos on Oahu...

you forgot Italy's new PM
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 28, 2022, 08:30:04 PM
Everyone who speaks the truth is racist to me. Meeeeewahhhhhhh waaahhhh

All because i have no proof. Meeewwwahhhhh waaaaahhhhhh.

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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: changemyoil66 on September 28, 2022, 09:17:17 PM
Doesnt understand racism.

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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: aletheuo137 on September 29, 2022, 08:08:11 AM
Biden: "We can stop Nordstream ii"

https://rumble.com/v1lp7zb-biden-we-can-stop-nordstream-ii.html

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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on September 29, 2022, 08:33:10 AM
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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 29, 2022, 09:13:35 AM
https://youtu.be/wYveC6lJurs
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on September 29, 2022, 10:58:53 AM
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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 01, 2022, 08:33:27 PM
Tucker Carlson: What really happened
to the Nord Stream pipeline?


https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tucker-carlson-really-happened-nord-stream-pipeline
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on October 01, 2022, 11:01:03 PM
We might not know whodunnit for a while, if ever

The important thing is that WW3 just started and if you wanted anything from Germany you’d better get it now
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on October 02, 2022, 07:35:25 AM
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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on October 02, 2022, 08:18:02 AM
We might not know whodunnit for a while, if ever
For those who understand that the US empire is in its death throes, it is already known what state agency was responsible.

The taking out of the Nordstream pipelines only extends the US empire's dominion over Europe temporarily, as the coming Winter months and far worse EU economic collapse will cause the European people to break their vassal status to the US empire.



The important thing is that WW3 just started and if you wanted anything from Germany you’d better get it now
The kinetic phase of WWIII has already started earlier this year when Russia decided to stop US imperial / NATO expansion into Ukraine.  The potential of nukes won't start flying unless US imperial vassal and Russia-hating NATO nations like Poland decide to go rogue and launch attacks into the Russian Motherland, thereby, opening the possibility of nuclear catastrophe.

On the Asian front, kinetic action will begin once the US empire begins supplying offensive capable weapons to the Republic of China (ROC) / Taiwan.  Since the Power Okole's senile old fool in the White House revealed the US empire's intentions to militarily intervene on behalf of the ROC, China will not wait for the military integration of the ROC's forces into the US imperial military and do a Ukraine 2.0, but immediately use all means at its disposal to reunify their renegade province preemptively.

If the US empire decides to fight China, then pray that only domestic Balkanization and economic collapse occurs, since the only alternative to those scenarios at that point is nuclear annihilation.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on October 02, 2022, 08:28:40 AM
The ChiCom fluffer chimes in.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on October 02, 2022, 08:38:55 AM
So says the blind US imperial stooge.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: astroboy on October 02, 2022, 08:57:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWKA67X91F4



Phase I of WWIII has already begun with the US empire's proxy war with Russia via Ukraine.

Phase II of WWIII bringing in China will begin as soon as the US empire begins sending long-range weaponry to the Republic of China (Taiwan), as they did in pre-2022 Ukraine.

Let's not forget the US imperial mantra, "Russia is bad; Trump, Putin, and Xi are evil; and China is next on the hit list".


Taiwan has their own hypersonic missile system that can reach the 3 gorges dam and places like Beijing.
Maybe the US can buy some of these until we can make our own hypersonic system.
Thank BHO for canceling the funding for USA hypersonics.
 
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on October 02, 2022, 09:23:46 AM
Taiwan has their own hypersonic missile system that can reach the 3 gorges dam and places like Beijing.
This is a moot point though.

Similarly, if any nation were to target Moscow, if the ROC or any nation strikes the 3 gorges dam or Beijing, they will be nuked in response.

Americans especially need to remember that when China decides to fight, they will fight to the bitter end.  Mao knew that America could nuke Beijing during the Korean War, but was committed in stopping US imperial expansion into East Asia led by General MacArthur, despite great loss of Chinese life.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 02, 2022, 10:23:12 AM
Tucker Carlson is not credible.

Did Tucker Carlson make up any of the facts?  Did you even watch the video.

Making judgements without bothering to watch demonstrates YOUR lack of credibility.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on October 02, 2022, 10:33:42 AM
The truth is there is plenty of motivation for multiple parties (except Germany) to do this and the only people know for sure are the divers who planted the charges and the people who gave them the orders.

If you need H&K spare parts I’d pick them up now. No energy = no industry.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: groveler on October 02, 2022, 10:54:03 AM
This is a moot point though.

Similarly, if any nation were to target Moscow, if the ROC or any nation strikes the 3 gorges dam or Beijing, they will be nuked in response.

Americans especially need to remember that when China decides to fight, they will fight to the bitter end.  Mao knew that America could nuke Beijing during the Korean War, but was committed in stopping US imperial expansion into East Asia led by General MacArthur, despite great loss of Chinese life.
"Mao knew that America could nuke Beijing during the Korean War,"
He also knew he was dealing with a Democrat, who was one of the very few that had some morals and ethics.
It wasn't a legally declared war under our Constitution. 
Those kind of politicians have long since been purged from the party.
 :wave:
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 02, 2022, 11:05:03 AM
The US is the only nation in history to have used nuclear weapons against a foreign adversary.

How long before that record changes?

Sure, the US can bomb anyone else who tried out of complete existence, but I don't think Biden has the mental acuity nor Presidential power to make that call.  His administration is being run by the Swamp -- especially the DOJ, CIA, NSA and Congress.  Any such decisions will factor in political ramifications for themselves and the party for decades.

N. Korea sees us as weaker without Trump at the helm.  How do you think leaders of stronger nations see us?

We've been at war ever since before the Cold War is supposed to have ended.  We just don't label it as a war -- unlike the "War on Terror," "War on Poverty," "War on Drugs."  etc.  The war is being fought via propaganda, weak immigration policies and borders, political divisiveness, and so on.  And that includes adversaries that are in elected office or have access to them (Chinese spies in Congress ...).

The gov't tends to downplay the really serious events involving spies and domestic subversives, because it reflects badly on the government.  The stories that get blown out of proportion in the media (Jan 6th) are the ones that we should not be so hyper-focused on to the detriment of real problems.

Smoke screens ...
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on October 02, 2022, 11:45:11 AM
I don't think Biden has the mental acuity nor Presidential power to make that call.
I am certain Øbowel and handlers are running things.  And did not the Kenyan once claim that this country could absorb a first strike?

Implying he would not authorize a response, nor would he allow the demented one to do so.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: groveler on October 02, 2022, 03:46:36 PM
I am certain Øbowel and handlers are running things.  And did not the Kenyan once claim that this country could absorb a first strike?

Implying he would not authorize a response, nor would he allow the demented one to do so.
Øbowel isn't too smart.
First strike will kill most of his voters.
For some reason that won't bother me too much.
Historically people think cities are important.
Americans can do just fine without them
in todays world.
 :wave:
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on October 05, 2022, 09:25:06 PM
I guess the US empire is no longer good in committing crimes against humanity as it once did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW1zK8IXwHM



The US empire screams RUSSIA DID IT!

Oh, but wait, Russia apparently made the necessary repairs and will be able to get the pipeline flowing once again.

Why would Russia sabotage their own pipeline only to have it running shortly?

I guess the real enemy of Europe and the emerging multipolar World will be unmasked soon...
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 05, 2022, 09:41:31 PM
I guess the US empire is no longer good in committing crimes against humanity as it once did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW1zK8IXwHM



The US empire screams RUSSIA DID IT!

Oh, but wait, Russia apparently made the necessary repairs and will be able to get the pipeline flowing once again.

Why would Russia sabotage their own pipeline only to have it running shortly?

I guess the real enemy of Europe and the emerging multipolar World will be unmasked soon...
Osama blew up buildings, his family rebuilt them.

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Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 06, 2022, 01:55:33 AM

The US empire screams RUSSIA DID IT!

Oh, but wait, Russia apparently made the necessary repairs and will be able to get the pipeline flowing once again.

Why would Russia sabotage their own pipeline only to have it running shortly?

I guess the real enemy of Europe and the emerging multipolar World will be unmasked soon...

Obama droned and cruise-missiled whole cities in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Then he sent BILLIONS of our dollars we didn't have to replace the infrastructure and buildings better than before they were destroyed.

Makes as much sense as Putin and the Pipeline.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on October 06, 2022, 08:16:24 AM
Obama droned and cruise-missiled whole cities in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Then he sent BILLIONS of our dollars we didn't have to replace the infrastructure and buildings better than before they were destroyed.

Makes as much sense as Putin and the Pipeline.
The problem with that presumption is that Russia or any other OPEC nation for that matter do not have a history of blowing up their own pipelines which are those countries primary source of income.  Those who do sabotage and/or destroy oil and natural gas pipelines do so as an act of war or terrorism in order to stop that resource flow to prevent the exporting nation from earning money and wreak havoc on those who need those resources.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 06, 2022, 09:28:06 AM
Obama droned and cruise-missiled whole cities in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Then he sent BILLIONS of our dollars we didn't have to replace the infrastructure and buildings better than before they were destroyed.

Makes as much sense as Putin and the Pipeline.

Don't forget Bidens brother was the head of the construction company. Guess they learned from watching what the Bin Laden family did.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 06, 2022, 12:55:39 PM
The problem with that presumption is that Russia or any other OPEC nation for that matter do not have a history of blowing up their own pipelines which are those countries primary source of income.  Those who do sabotage and/or destroy oil and natural gas pipelines do so as an act of war or terrorism in order to stop that resource flow to prevent the exporting nation from earning money and wreak havoc on those who need those resources.

You don't think reducing the supply to Europe will drive up prices for years?  Is it worth the cost to drive a wedge between the US and NATO allies using energy demand and Russia's supplies?

Once a commodity becomes scarce, the price goes up multiple times as those willing and able to purchase bid on the remaining product.  Unless there's a cheaper source to compete, the prices are controlled by the producers.  It's why it's so important for the US to maintain the energy independence path Trump set us moving along.

OPEC is once again announcing cuts to production.  Expect gas prices to soar in late 2022 and all of 2023.  And since almost all goods and services in the US depend on energy for production and distribution, inflation will also rise making everything cost more.

This is the scenario we were warned about during the 1970s and Carter's fuel shortages.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 06, 2022, 03:40:22 PM
Oil Cartels Join Forces With Russia,
Gas Prices Will Skyrocket,
Biden Has Screwed Us


https://youtu.be/vdvyjn5HIPM
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: robtmc on October 06, 2022, 06:15:00 PM

Gas Prices Will Skyrocket,
Forcing up the cost of fuel has been a wet dream for liberal greenies for decades.

Always was the strategy to force stopping using fossil fuel:
Make it unaffordable, so the rubes come begging for mass transit, or something......

The fraud Bidet* is only their tool in implementing the treasonous agenda.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on October 06, 2022, 09:43:33 PM
Is it worth the cost to drive a wedge between the US and NATO allies using energy demand and Russia's supplies?
That's the question that I have been sharing my take in my posts on this thread.

From my standpoint, the US empire is purposely preventing Russia oil from reaching Europe via sabotaging the Nordstream pipelines in order to keep Europe as a vassal state economically dependent on the US empire, while at the same time gouging Europe with high-cost US imperial energy exports in lieu of Russian natural gas.

Furthermore, it is the US empire that is willing to exacerbate the current global recessionary forces in the delusional and futile hope by egging on more global economic hardships, it will deprive Russia energy revenue as well as somehow derail Chinese economic growth.

Suffice-to-say, the recent agreements among OPEC as well as the expansion of BRICS along with the Global South and Africa are nevertheless moving towards a multipolar World not dictated or dominated by the US empire.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on October 07, 2022, 11:52:28 PM
What if it was Poland working in concert with the UK?

The good news is there appears to be a military back channel between the US and Russia, which is why they haven’t launched a counter offensive to take our satellites or something.

Fascinating discussion with Tom Luongo on the grumpy old curmudgeon podcast

https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-364-wild-western-civ-shoot-out-with-tom-luongo/

Maybe it’s not entirely accurate, but it’s better thought out than the caveman logic that most people are defaulting to at the moment.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on February 16, 2023, 06:54:07 PM
So, the senile old fool did give the order for the US empire to take out the Nordstream Pipeline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4BuMaGlKp0
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: groveler on February 16, 2023, 07:51:02 PM
So, the senile old fool did give the order for the US empire to take out the Nordstream Pipeline.
Y'all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4BuMaGlKp0
Y'all know I'd be happy to kill your EMPIRE.
Hawaii kingdom doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
Maybe you should consider that,
monacrchy lover.
I don't even like all the islands being ruled by the one.
Oahu.
Seems to me the BI was where Kamakhaea was born.
I guartee you if BI ran Hawaii , Oahu woud be
driftwood.
American empire did not destroy Hawaii
Democrat party did.
 :grrr: >:D


Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on February 16, 2023, 08:49:34 PM
Y'all know I'd be happy to kill your EMPIRE.
Hawaii kingdom doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
Maybe you should consider that,
monacrchy lover.
I don't even like all the islands being ruled by the one.
Oahu.
Seems to me the BI was where Kamakhaea was born.
I guartee you if BI ran Hawaii , Oahu woud be
driftwood.
American empire did not destroy Hawaii
Democrat party did.
 :grrr: >:D

They had Kalakaua. We have Biden
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: groveler on February 16, 2023, 10:54:58 PM
They had Kalakaua. We have Biden
Kalakaua. was by far a more honorable man.
Biden is an insult to the USA. I am ashamed he is the same race as me.
I wonder if racial classifications are legimate.
I sure as hell wasn't born that stupid.
I am ashamed of all the people that voted for him.
We don't need people like that.
Perhaps B Gates has the right idea,  get rid of them.
BTW didn't Hawaii choose the ass Biden by a landslide?
Green, Mink, Inoyhe, Akaka, Rhodes, I could go on.
Says something about piss poor choices Hawaiians make.
 :wtf: :wave:
Aloha
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on February 17, 2023, 10:49:13 AM
Kalakaua. was by far a more honorable man.
Biden is an insult to the USA. I am ashamed he is the same race as me.
I wonder if racial classifications are legimate.
I sure as hell wasn't born that stupid.
I am ashamed of all the people that voted for him.
We don't need people like that.
Perhaps B Gates has the right idea,  get rid of them.
BTW didn't Hawaii choose the ass Biden by a landslide?
Green, Mink, Inoyhe, Akaka, Rhodes, I could go on.
Says something about piss poor choices Hawaiians make.
 :wtf: :wave:
Aloha

From a Kingdom perspective Kalakaua was loyal to a foreign power and “appointed” because they thought he would be easy to manipulate. When the setup was complete they betrayed him, took control, and tossed him aside. It’s not an identical situation to Beijing Biden, but it’s close enough to hear the historical echo.

Kamehameha was a competent warlord. His successors not so much. Typical rich kid syndrome, which is why our founding fathers were looking for an alternative to effete monarchies. It was a bold experiment that brought an unprecedented era of prosperity while it lasted. Unfortunately we didn’t keep up with the maintenance.
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: groveler on February 17, 2023, 12:54:21 PM
From a Kingdom perspective Kalakaua was loyal to a foreign power and “appointed” because they thought he would be easy to manipulate. When the setup was complete they betrayed him, took control, and tossed him aside. It’s not an identical situation to Beijing Biden, but it’s close enough to hear the historical echo.

Kamehameha was a competent warlord. His successors not so much. Typical rich kid syndrome, which is why our founding fathers were looking for an alternative to effete monarchies. It was a bold experiment that brought an unprecedented era of prosperity while it lasted. Unfortunately we didn’t keep up with the maintenance.
A little off topic
I think we should have blown the pipielines.
Germans were idiots. Russians raped their grandmothers and they want to do business with them.
Germans. good engineers,  bad social skills.

America required morality of it's citizenry. A Religious thing, Morality.
I'm not going to preach here, but if you don't submitb to the comamnds of a higher authority
then you are destined to be ruled by heaten idiots that make up rules as they see fit.
Kings, queens, and Democracy.
I was given 10 simple rules to follow.
For the most part I have done so.
Most people I live with seem to think otherwise.
Thus America fails.
 :wtf:


Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on April 12, 2023, 09:15:21 PM
Not a surprise.

Trump himself alludes to who was responsible for blowing up the Nord Stream Pipeline and clearly states it was not Russia to Tucker Carlson.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ktEFFrtq5I
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: hvybarrels on April 12, 2023, 09:18:35 PM
The world's largest environmental disaster brought to you by the "green revolution" party that won't STFU about saving the planet.

(https://imgs.search.brave.com/P1B3QJ4kOyUK91EUk0yGruZVE1AFVNNLIne9Fr3otxE/rs:fit:600:600:1/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9paDEu/cmVkYnViYmxlLm5l/dC9pbWFnZS4xNzY3/MDQ5NTgwLjQ0NTEv/c3Qsc21hbGwsNTA3/eDUwNy1wYWQsNjAw/eDYwMCxmOGY4Zjgu/anBn)
Title: Re: hmmmmm, who blew up the nordstream pipelines???
Post by: Kuleana on April 13, 2023, 09:49:53 AM
The world's largest environmental disaster brought to you by the "green revolution" party that won't STFU about saving the planet.
Totally correct, but let's not understate the level of evil, never mind crimes against humanity, that the US empire is willing to commit to maintain their dominance in the World.

Blowing up the pipelines of your so-called allies will be seen years later, if the planet avoids nuclear holocaust caused by the US empire, as the key event that turned the rest of the "Free World" against US imperial dominance.