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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Heavies on October 13, 2022, 02:02:03 PM

Title: Hawaii’s ban on “Assault Pistols” and “Magazines”
Post by: Heavies on October 13, 2022, 02:02:03 PM
https://youtu.be/dDFz0zubFdQ (https://youtu.be/dDFz0zubFdQ)


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Title: Re: Hawaii’s ban on “Assault Pistols” and “Magazines”
Post by: hvybarrels on October 13, 2022, 08:31:18 PM
By that definition sbr and sbs are both common use as well  :shaka:
Title: Re: Hawaii’s ban on “Assault Pistols” and “Magazines”
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 13, 2022, 08:42:38 PM
A W. Virginia judge just ruled that a felon in possession of a firearm, and being in possession of a firearm with the serial number obliterated, while against existing law are both unconstitutional.

This, based on the Bruen decision and the test set down by the Supreme Court.

Looks like the "shall not be infringed" clause is about to come into full fruition.

The new test criteria is (1) does the law in question apply to the Second Amendment, and (2) is there textual and historical precedence for the law -- historical in the sense of existing around 1791.
Title: Re: Hawaii’s ban on “Assault Pistols” and “Magazines”
Post by: Heavies on October 13, 2022, 09:52:20 PM
A W. Virginia judge just ruled that a felon in possession of a firearm, and being in possession of a firearm with the serial number obliterated, while against existing law are both unconstitutional.

This, based on the Bruen decision and the test set down by the Supreme Court.

Looks like the "shall not be infringed" clause is about to come into full fruition.

The new test criteria is (1) does the law in question apply to the Second Amendment, and (2) is there textual and historical precedence for the law -- historical in the sense of existing around 1791.


That judge in that case said that the serial number portion was unconstitutional, however there was some historical precedent that violent felons can be banned from possession of firearms.


Since the person indicted was a previous violent felon, he can be charged with that particular statute.


Would have been very interesting if that person was a nonviolent felon that served out his sentence. That would have probably made constitutional muster.
Title: Re: Hawaii’s ban on “Assault Pistols” and “Magazines”
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 13, 2022, 11:59:01 PM

That judge in that case said that the serial number portion was unconstitutional, however there was some historical precedent that violent felons can be banned from possession of firearms.


Since the person indicted was a previous violent felon, he can be charged with that particular statute.


Would have been very interesting if that person was a nonviolent felon that served out his sentence. That would have probably made constitutional muster.

I guess the video I saw didn't have the latest info.  Thanks!

But, still, when ATF "rules" such as serializing firearms and not removing existing serial numbers are being judged unconstitutional in a court of law, imagine how many more laws can also be challenged based on the recent CORRECT reading of the Second Amendment?  The requirement for serial numbers is the lynchpin for so many other laws.  Without markings to identify each firearm, gun control will fall flat on its proverbial face!

#GhostGunsRock

The gun grabbers are panicking.
Title: Re: Hawaii’s ban on “Assault Pistols” and “Magazines”
Post by: rpoL98 on October 14, 2022, 03:58:21 AM
I guess the video I saw didn't have the latest info.  Thanks!

But, still, when ATF "rules" such as serializing firearms and not removing existing serial numbers are being judged unconstitutional in a court of law, imagine how many more laws can also be challenged based on the recent CORRECT reading of the Second Amendment?  The requirement for serial numbers is the lynchpin for so many other laws.  Without markings to identify each firearm, gun control will fall flat on its proverbial face!

#GhostGunsRock

The gun grabbers are panicking.
I don't think the gun grabbers in this alternate universe, other-worldly planet, banana-republik remote island are panicking at all, seems they are licking their chops with all kinds of delicious anti-2A legislation to roll out in the next session.  "New York, pfft, hold my beer."  Unconstitutional?  they obviously don't believe that the 2A is applicable here.  it's a restrictable privilege, not a God-given right.