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Title: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2022, 11:26:04 AM
https://youtu.be/f5YWXrZdNpA
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 24, 2022, 11:30:58 AM
Some will still shoot low left.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2022, 11:31:56 AM
if you don't want to watch the whole thing, at 10:30, 0he takes a shot at distance and hits it first try...

https://youtu.be/f5YWXrZdNpA
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2022, 11:32:14 AM
heads

Some will still shoot low left.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2022, 12:06:11 PM
26:45 for 3 shots on 3 targets...
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: aaronc5362 on October 24, 2022, 02:16:41 PM
Didnt the cheytac already come up with this system?

 :stopjack:
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: WTF?Shane on October 24, 2022, 05:37:12 PM
Didnt the cheytac already come up with this system?

 :stopjack:

It was Barrett and Nightforce, from what I remember.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: WTF?Shane on October 24, 2022, 05:38:39 PM
26:45 for 3 shots on 3 targets...

Longer video for more ad revenue.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: drck1000 on October 24, 2022, 06:06:22 PM
if you don't want to watch the whole thing, at 10:30, 0he takes a shot at distance and hits it first try...
Still wouldn’t help you  8)
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on October 24, 2022, 07:05:10 PM
Still wouldn’t help you  8)

i own no rifles nor scopes...
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on October 25, 2022, 12:15:05 AM
Weapons mounted rangefinder? Yea that’s been around. It seems that the rangefinder is integrated with the scope though as 1 piece.
Here’s my version, quite similar, though instead of using the rangefinder ballistics, I use a kestrel to do the solution. But the Kestrel takes the DOF from the rangefinder then gives the solution.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/UDMaKw.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poUDMaKwj)
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: drck1000 on October 25, 2022, 07:37:10 AM
Weapons mounted rangefinder? Yea that’s been around. It seems that the rangefinder is integrated with the scope though as 1 piece.
Here’s my version, quite similar, though instead of using the rangefinder ballistics, I use a kestrel to do the solution. But the Kestrel takes the DOF from the rangefinder then gives the solution.

Very nice setup!  How do you "aim" the rangefinder?  I was thinking it would be with your scope, but how would the zeroing work?  Awesome either way. 

When I get my bolt guns setup and load developed more, maybe I'll progress.  Right now, rangefinding binos (recent add) and Kestrel that can link with that rangefinder is where I'm. 

macsak - Still won't help you. . .  ;D
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 25, 2022, 08:50:41 AM
The addition of this optic set up still leads me to believe that this system with the SPEAR will be a better DM type application.  So like 1 or 2 of these DM's in a squad. Treat it like a SAW, for every SAW gunner, there's 1 SPEAR gunner.

This def adds more weight (include SPEAR plus it's recoil) that makes it not optimal for room clearing.  The M4 and even a 20 inch M16 would be better.  And the  SPEAR has a 20rd mag, vs 30rds for M4/16 which more rounds in a house fight the better.

In the mountains of A-stan, yeah this would be better.  But in places like Iraq, a M4 would be better due to it being more urban.  But we left anyways so moot.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: rpoL98 on October 25, 2022, 02:10:38 PM
looking forward to what the next generation of integrated rangefinder/optic looks like, features.  probably smaller, faster, smarter, with better, high-res in-optic graphics, prompts.  right now, the video makes it look like pac-man level of in-optic display quality.  I want 1080p, not 144p.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on October 25, 2022, 04:17:22 PM
Very nice setup!  How do you "aim" the rangefinder?  I was thinking it would be with your scope, but how would the zeroing work?  Awesome either way. 

When I get my bolt guns setup and load developed more, maybe I'll progress.  Right now, rangefinding binos (recent add) and Kestrel that can link with that rangefinder is where I'm. 

macsak - Still won't help you. . .  ;D

The zeroing of any 1550 nm military grade type weapons mounted rangefinders ( ie. ICUGR Darley Defense, L3 Harris SPEAR, Wilcox Raptar S, Wilcox MRF, etc ) is most critical. This link explains it..
https://nvisti.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/NVDOC1401-LRF-Alignment.pdf
I went above and beyond and precisely zeroed my setup out to 2694 yrds to be exact. At dusk on a large (non-residental) white wall that I could see with VIS HP on the Rap S.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on December 16, 2022, 10:14:12 AM
Envision is rolling out their first weapons mounted range finder. It is a 1550nm grade laser rangefinder. Though only vis laser no IR stuffs. But the good thing is the Mil/Gov version is same price as the civ version. And cheaper than any of the L3harris or Wilcox RF.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/m-a-r-s-1550nm-lrf-with-integrated-applied-ballistics.7152348/
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on December 29, 2022, 02:37:18 PM
SOK did a full review of the MARS Lc (civ version). How ever they make it sound out to be, it’s still based on a 1550nm military grade RF laser.. lol
What’s also equipped in the XM-157 contracted by L3Harris also 1550nm based I believe.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/mars-lc-review-order-link.7153953/
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on January 07, 2023, 10:28:39 PM
Looks like FN is getting into the WMLRF game too. Military grade 1550nm LRF with LP and HP VIS and IR and ballistic solver. Much like the Raptar S (01) restricted version. Pretty much the same actually..
https://fnamerica.com/products/e-novation-military/fn-elity-ballistic-calculator/
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on January 10, 2023, 06:45:56 AM
Good article here with consumer grade laser vs military grade laser..
https://precisionrifleblog.com/2018/08/26/extreme-long-range-tips-spotting-shots-ranging/

Article of early development of XM-157. Well instead of Leupold optics it’s now Vortex.
https://www.l3harris.com/newsroom/trade-release/2021/01/l3harris-technologies-delivers-next-generation-squad-fire-control
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: drck1000 on January 10, 2023, 07:50:41 AM
So when are you getting one Rhed?  That will be an awesome year if you get that optic and the Prometheus!  ;D
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on January 10, 2023, 08:12:42 AM
First of all brotha.. My shooting is crap.. So those fancy powder drops and tell-you-what-do optic still.. quote “wouldn’t help me”!  I’d probably shoot low left too anyways..  :rofl:
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: drck1000 on January 10, 2023, 08:21:09 AM
First of all brotha.. My shooting is crap.. So those fancy powder drops and tell-you-what-do optic still.. quote “wouldn’t help me”!  I’d probably shoot low left too anyways..  :rofl:
But you would look bad a$$!   ;D  :P

I'm sure your shooting is great!  Besides, only Mr. Tourettes shoots low left here. . .
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on January 10, 2023, 08:32:06 AM
Yea well, you’re forgetting about behind the scenes of looking badass. Money in wallet? Gone! More hours to work! Having to deal with my wife after she finds out what I spent? Priceless! 😢
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: drck1000 on January 10, 2023, 09:00:13 AM
Yea well, you’re forgetting about behind the scenes of looking badass. Money in wallet? Gone! More hours to work! Having to deal with my wife after she finds out what I spent? Priceless! 😢
I hear ya.  My gun spending tends to come in waves.  The current wave has been a tsunami and many months long.  Renewed interest in both bolt action and pistols at the same time.   :(

Been saying to myself I need to cool it for a month, but then I get notifications on stuff that was out of stock for forever and I cave. . .  :rofl:
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on January 10, 2023, 11:49:53 AM
that's DOCTOR Tourette's...

But you would look bad a$$!   ;D  :P

I'm sure your shooting is great!  Besides, only Mr. Tourettes shoots low left here. . .
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 10, 2023, 12:36:27 PM
But you would look bad a$$!   ;D  :P


I'm waiting to see who will have the strongest flex by showing up to an open shoot with a SPEAR.
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: drck1000 on January 12, 2023, 06:46:08 AM
I'm waiting to see who will have the strongest flex by showing up to an open shoot with a SPEAR.
I can think of a few I would suspect would.  If money was no object, I would also likely shoot more, including a .308 win or other larger centerfire gas gun.  If you're playing out your fantasy further and I win the MegaMillions or PowerBall, I'm buying up a bunch of land and have my own property.   O0
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on January 12, 2023, 12:09:24 PM
tfti

I can think of a few I would suspect would.  If money was no object, I would also likely shoot more, including a .308 win or other larger centerfire gas gun.  If you're playing out your fantasy further and I win the MegaMillions or PowerBall, I'm buying up a bunch of land and have my own property.   O0
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: drck1000 on January 12, 2023, 01:03:56 PM
tfti
Like in The Walking Dead, you'll need to provide a key service, skill, etc for the community. . .

Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: macsak on January 12, 2023, 01:08:10 PM
#sfdds

Like in The Walking Dead, you'll need to provide a key service, skill, etc for the community. . .
Title: Re: The US Military's New Smart Optic that Aims For You. The XM-157
Post by: Rhed on January 13, 2023, 12:58:51 PM
Another player in the world of military grade WMLRF coming.
https://www.maztechindustries.com/