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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: roadster99 on November 15, 2012, 06:48:06 PM
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I had mentioned in an earlier post that I had "likely" made my last post. Subsequently, I have been urged via PM to involve myself in the community. Whether you agree or not, I figured I'd post something. I found this particularly interesting. Live webcast/updates via Reuters on the Conflict along the Gaza Strip.
Check it out:
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Conflict_on_the_Gaza_Strip (http://live.reuters.com/Event/Conflict_on_the_Gaza_Strip)
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Oh dear...
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The problems escalate.... :(
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Its been bad before for a long time, but in the last 30 days shtf. With use of heavy artillery and rockets. Used to be small arms conflicts and rpg attacks. This civil war has been going on forever.
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Israel has some hot women for sure, but seriously they have to fight their own wars. I hate paying taxes that go to some country that can't take care of their own s#!t. If you can't get along with your neighbors then move out of the neighborhood.
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I hate paying taxes that go to some country that can't take care of their own s#!t.
Do you dislike tax-payer foreign aid to countries such as Pakistan and Egypt? What about the war torn countries of Afghanistan and Iraq?
Take a look at this interesting infographic:
http://foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspx (http://foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspx)
How many of those countries, in your words, "can't take care of their own s#it?" All, none or some?
I ask the question only because if you're questioning the rationale of giving foreign aid to Israel, our only true ally in that region, you must question the foreign aid being given to every single country on that list.
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Roadster99, I want everyone to realize that heavybarrels is a troll and is only saying what he says to start shit and tries to bring out the emotions in people. So please don't answer this troll. Everyone knows that Israel doesn't start these attacks nor do they cause them. They have every right to defend themselves. They are also the only ally we have that we have never sent in troops to help or defend their interests. You cannot say that for any other ally we have. Being that they are the only true friend we have in the region we need to help them any way we can to survive.
If Canada and Mexico were to continue to attack us with rockets would we just pack up and leave because we can't get along with them? :wtf:
Unfortunately, with this last batch of rockets being fired on Israel it is obvious that the rockets are now larger and more powerful than the last round of rockets. Including having a much longer range. They are now hitting within 13 miles of Jerusalem. And this means my family that lives there is now within range of these rockets. They have no car and use public transportation for their daily lives. They cannot leave the country without a car and the airport is currently shut down stranding all visitors and anyone wanting to leave. My whole family is terrified of the possibilities. I spoke to one family member today on the mainland and it is all she can do to keep it together.
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Shoot man, sometimes I wake up thinking that our own country doesn't seem to be able to take care of its own shit!
Wow. Best wishes to your fam, Inspector. Hope they remain out of harm's way!
Thanks New Guy. It helps that we can still Skype with them.
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So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a troll? Sorry to hear about your family but they are clearly the aggressor state and if by our only 'friend' you mean a convenient place to stage our military when pillaging the Middle East for resources and install puppet governments under the guise of defending human rights then we could probably get away with losing a friend or two. Don't know if you noticed but we have this problem of being totally broke as a nation and sooner or later the collection agencies are going to come calling.
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So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a troll? Sorry to hear about your family but they are clearly the aggressor state and if by our only 'friend' you mean a convenient place to stage our military when pillaging the Middle East for resources and install puppet governments under the guise of defending human rights then we could probably get away with losing a friend or two. Don't know if you noticed but we have this problem of being totally broke as a nation and sooner or later the collection agencies are going to come calling.
It not just the disagreement. You are a racist by your own admission, you give yourself and gun owners a bad name. Your type is what the antis feed off of to strip our rights. If we pillage the mid east so much why the hell is gas so expensive? Where is all the oil that Iraq war was supposed to be about? Why do we give billons to the countries in that area to help humanitarian aide? Get real! Israel is attacked from all fronts. They are right to defend their nation.
Go have your 'white guy night' and spew that bullshit overthere! :grrr:
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So if someone doesn't agree with you they are a troll? Sorry to hear about your family but they are clearly the aggressor state and if by our only 'friend' you mean a convenient place to stage our military when pillaging the Middle East for resources and install puppet governments under the guise of defending human rights then we could probably get away with losing a friend or two. Don't know if you noticed but we have this problem of being totally broke as a nation and sooner or later the collection agencies are going to come calling.
Internet Trolling = a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Go back and read what you posted. It fits the definition of trolling to a tee. Considering you admitted to me in another exchange on this forum that you were doing just this why would I think any differently now in this post?
Go troll somewhere else where you are not outed and you can get the response you are looking for.
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Hamas is an Iranian proxy that continues to tease the tiger in the cage by sticking its fingers in between the cage bars. Then when it bites, Hamas will cry foul. The tiger has a long reach, sharp claws and teeth.
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Internet Trolling = a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
The difference, my friend, is that I have a point and you don't like it so you want to try censorship instead of looking down to notice the cracks in the foundation of your rock-solid world view.
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Hamas is an Iranian proxy that continues to tease the tiger in the cage by sticking its fingers in between the cage bars. Then when it bites, Hamas will cry foul. The tiger has a long reach, sharp claws and teeth.
The tiger is full of hubris, and those claws only work as long as the empire lasts. Which of course empires never do.
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Spiritual Warfare!
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It seems a lot of international media is trying to make Israel look really bad. To me, any country has the right to defend their people from international or domestic threats. Warning people to evacuate before they strike a certain building seems pretty reasonable to me in order to try and keep civilian casualties as low as possible. Also the second video shows how surgical the Israel military is in taking out the target. They are shooting missiles from miles away and have a direct hit. I can't even shoot the 10 ring on a target from 100 yards consistently. Anybody know what the bible says about the time when Israel falls as a nation??
Israel Deliberately Targeting Journalist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPUp9cfSx8#)
Israel defends air strikes that hit media building (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU0MLpX2iGw#ws)
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When government buys food for poor people it's socialism. When we buy weapons for other countries to attack their neighbors it's doing God's work. Christian nation that doesn't know the first thing about Christ.
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The Bible says that ALL nations will turn against it and Israel will stand alone. But all that goes against it will hurt themselves. See Zechariah 12. It prophesies the future deliverance of Israel which may be now.
(Zechariah 12:1-6 NLT)
This message concerning the fate of Israel came from the Lord : “This message is from the Lord , who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit. I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves. “On that day,” says the Lord , “I will cause every horse to panic and every rider to lose his nerve. I will watch over the people of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of their enemies. And the clans of Judah will say to themselves, ‘The people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, their God.’ “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a flame that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure.
Makes me wonder which side the US will be in all this. I wonder if the US will turn against Israel also, which current events seem to indicate.
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The Bible says that ALL nations will turn against it and Israel will stand alone. But all that goes against it will hurt themselves. See Zechariah 12. It prophesies the future deliverance of Israel which may be now.
(Zechariah 12:1-6 NLT)
This message concerning the fate of Israel came from the Lord : “This message is from the Lord , who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit. I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves. “On that day,” says the Lord , “I will cause every horse to panic and every rider to lose his nerve. I will watch over the people of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of their enemies. And the clans of Judah will say to themselves, ‘The people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, their God.’ “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a flame that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure.
Makes me wonder which side the US will be in all this. I wonder if the US will turn against Israel also, which current events seem to indicate.
Wow interesting, thanks for the response. That part sounds like a nuke to me!!!
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When government buys food for poor people it's socialism. When we buy weapons for other countries to attack their neighbors it's doing God's work. Christian nation that doesn't know the first thing about Christ.
You are right, I don't think the Government should be involved to the extent that it has been in either circumstance.
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The Bible says that ALL nations will turn against it and Israel will stand alone. But all that goes against it will hurt themselves. See Zechariah 12. It prophesies the future deliverance of Israel which may be now.
(Zechariah 12:1-6 NLT)
This message concerning the fate of Israel came from the Lord : “This message is from the Lord , who stretched out the heavens, laid the foundations of the earth, and formed the human spirit. I will make Jerusalem like an intoxicating drink that makes the nearby nations stagger when they send their armies to besiege Jerusalem and Judah. On that day I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock. All the nations will gather against it to try to move it, but they will only hurt themselves. “On that day,” says the Lord , “I will cause every horse to panic and every rider to lose his nerve. I will watch over the people of Judah, but I will blind all the horses of their enemies. And the clans of Judah will say to themselves, ‘The people of Jerusalem have found strength in the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, their God.’ “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a flame that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure.
Makes me wonder which side the US will be in all this. I wonder if the US will turn against Israel also, which current events seem to indicate.
First I'll comment on the videos. I have seen numerous news agencies that either leave out pertinent information or just come right out and lie about whether Israel is defending itself or starting the fighting. By having family over there and some quite close to the fighting they basically take the stance that Israel is defending itself. They are not all over how Israel behaves at times. But they are all adamant that the fighting is always started by someone firing a rocket, mortar or bomb. But they rarely attack the military. They usually attack the innocent civilians. I believe my family, I do not think they would lie to me.
As far as the religious aspect of what we are talking about, you all should know by now I don't believe. But I do feel there is some wisdom that can be derived from the Bible. And your question regarding the U.S. stance in all of this is very telling. We are in a very bad position in all of this. If Israel is attacked to the point that they start losing the war and foreign armies are invading we could be blackmailed into not entering by China and Russia. If we enter anyway we risk being a part of the next world war. Considering the actions of or current administration I would think we would not enter and Israel will use nuclear weapons to defend itself. Which again I believe will bring involvement by other major players which would bring us into the war. If we don't get involved we risk losing Israel. They are our best and truest friend we have IMHO. If we get involved we risk having nuclear weapons used on our homeland by those who want to see us destroyed. Especially those who are friends with Syria and Iran. In all situations that I see except one we lose. The only situation I see as a positive for us is if Israel is able to defend itself without our direct involvement. All of this is JMHO.
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Aside from the Biblical stuff, which I believe and agree with, Israel is a lonesome oasis of human rights and freedom in a region of oppression and tyranny. Not the sort of oppression that various groups whine about in the United States, the actual, stoning-gays-and-mutilating-people, honest to God oppression. Every other country region fervently believes that their religion demands the extermination of the Jews, yet some moral relativists still manage to find a way to think these terrorists are the good guys.
We don't even need to justify strong support for Israel on religious grounds; by any objective measure, Israel's continued existence is in our national best interest.
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I too have family in the region. Its a war over land.
Palestinians were removed from the region so that the Jews have a homeland. The Palestinians are angry cause they were forced out of their country, the Jews are trying to defended what is their land now. I know this is over simplifying the facts but it's a rough idea. Its a war of the people against the people. It's just happens that the Jews have a strong western military system.
Ive been trying to plan a trip there for years but it's not safe to go there.
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"The Bible, right on schedule..." ;)
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I hope that your family(ies) remain safe Inspector & Bigkahuna808.
Hamas is a terrorist organization. Israel is defending its nation against Hamas' attacks. And, Inspector has a good point regarding Hamas' attacks and Israel's retaliation. Amazing how the media spins this. :(
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I too have family in the region. Its a war over land.
Palestinians were removed from the region so that the Jews have a homeland. The Palestinians are angry cause they were forced out of their country, the Jews are trying to defended what is their land now. I know this is over simplifying the facts but it's a rough idea. Its a war of the people against the people. It's just happens that the Jews have a strong western military system.
Ive been trying to plan a trip there for years but it's not safe to go there.
Big Kahuna I hope your family is somewhere safe. It sucks that no one can get in or out of there easily at this point.
While you are correct that the fighting between Israel and Egypt/Jordan/Syria was over land, I believe there is more to it than that. I believe all of the fighting going on currently is due to religious differences. Let's face it, Hamas does not have an army big enough or sophisticated enough to take and hold any land from Israel. Or even intimidate Israel off its land. All they are doing is setting up rocket launchers inside school grounds and firing rockets at Israel. For what reason? There have not been any incursions or invasions onto Israel land worth mentioning. Currently, Israel has peace agreements and/or cease fire agreements with Egypt/Jordan/Syria. Israel even had a cease fire agreement with the Palestinians in exchange for land that Israel gave back to them. As you can see, that cease fire agreement didn't last very long. Even Yemen, Iraq and Iran have been openly enemies of Israel based on religious differences. They have no borders with Israel. These countries stand to gain nothing as far as land is concerned if Israel is destroyed. The fighting of recent history seems to be more religious differences than having any chance whatsoever to gain any land back from Israel. JMHO :shaka:
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Use the New Testament when you want people to give you their stuff willingly. If that doesn't work use the Old Testament as a justification to kill them and take whatever you want.
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Use the New Testament when you want people to give you their stuff willingly. If that doesn't work use the Old Testament as a justification to kill them and take whatever you want.
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Do you think Israel will ever have their own version of Thanksgiving where they stuff themselves full of hummus and goat and watch their football teams Mohammeds and Jihadis vie for the playoffs? I kinda doubt it.
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I'm just saying the Muslims are already taking over Europe and Russia just by immigration and breeding alone. Lord knows our govt has tried bombing, shooting, poison gas, radiation, making them fight each other. It's not like the old days where you could just release some smallpox and be done with it.
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Use the New Testament when you want people to give you their stuff willingly. If that doesn't work use the Old Testament as a justification to kill them and take whatever you want.
Thats actually correct! Satan knows the power of the words in both the old and new testament....
Satan knows the Bible as well.... Thats why we ask God to reveal the words of the Bible to us before we open it.....
Thats one of the countless ways Satan tries to deceive people..... Just gotta ask God to stay focused everyday.....
Kinda like how in The Book of Eli, Carnegie was trying to get the Bible from Eli, because he knew the power of the words in it......