Post by: ilikebigbots on December 28, 2022, 02:16:55 PM
Chief finally approved the first application. Hopefully he approves all
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 28, 2022, 02:35:36 PM
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Post by: stangzilla on December 28, 2022, 03:01:30 PM
Post by: ilikebigbots on December 28, 2022, 03:37:20 PM
So who got it? I hope it's Todd or Andrew from HiFiCo. They busted their asses to help make this happen.
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Someone from my group chat messaged them and said that they haven't received anything yet. Maybe waiting for it to be mailed or picked up
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Post by: changemyoil66 on December 28, 2022, 04:06:12 PM
Someone from my group chat messaged them and said that they haven't received anything yet. Maybe waiting for it to be mailed or picked upHPD will mail u a certified mail letter to let u know to come and pick it up and pay $10 per permit.
The chief isnt cool enough to call the 1st person to come on down.
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Post by: pj_benn on December 28, 2022, 04:56:42 PM
Post by: randay on December 28, 2022, 05:18:06 PM
Congratulations to the chiefs uncle for his permit!
son
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 28, 2022, 06:25:11 PM
sonMother's brother nephew on his sister side of the family.
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Post by: groveler on December 28, 2022, 06:30:00 PM
you guys are happy that some man
granted you your natural rights.
:grrr:
Post by: randay on December 28, 2022, 06:39:13 PM
Kind of makes me sick and vomit.
you guys are happy that some man
granted you your natural rights.
:grrr:
sounds like lead poisoning, better check your levels
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 28, 2022, 07:18:25 PM
What's taking you so long to sign the rest? Your wrist is not broken after the first signing, is it?
Get used to it, Chief.
You know the rest of the applications are GTG. After all, after jumping through all the ridiculous hoops to acquire a handgun, the CCW approvals are just bureaucratic bullsh*t that you and your bosses made up just to muddy the waters and create confusion and frustration.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 28, 2022, 07:35:52 PM
Kind of makes me sick and vomit.
you guys are happy that some man
granted you your natural rights.
:grrr:
Happy "the man" is no longer preventing the exercise of those natural rights.
:thumbsup:
Post by: ren on December 28, 2022, 07:41:21 PM
Kind of makes me sick and vomit.
you guys are happy that some man
granted you your natural rights.
:grrr:
is there a care home on the BI?
Post by: macsak on December 28, 2022, 07:58:52 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100064606992816/posts/pfbid02J7aHrGAi1HDu4tfTqck8ub1p8FgWV1XEt475NvWBBC4o1NKU6P5pR5B8ehMpYTQXl/?mibextid=cr9u03
Chief finally approved the first application. Hopefully he approves all
Post by: Rhed on December 28, 2022, 08:04:50 PM
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 28, 2022, 08:27:08 PM
I’m surprised the first person is not from this forum. Cause I would think most of you peeps here are hardcore on being one of the first to apply. Oh well, as soon as someone post here about theirs, then I know it’s legit. Until then, I no believe!
Like CMO mentioned above, HPD will mail out the approval letter. That individual probably wont know about it till tomorrow at the earliest.
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 28, 2022, 08:28:53 PM
Kind of makes me sick and vomit.
you guys are happy that some man
granted you your natural rights.
:grrr:
I don't speak for the entire community, but it's small steps. I can understand for those that put all the effort into fighting this.
Post by: mrgaf on December 28, 2022, 09:40:57 PM
Like CMO mentioned above, HPD will mail out the approval letter. That individual probably wont know about it till tomorrow at the earliest.
knowing them shits at HPD it will take a month just for the letter to be placed in the outgoing mail…….. >:D
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 28, 2022, 11:08:54 PM
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Post by: groveler on December 29, 2022, 12:15:13 AM
is there a care home on the BI?Yeah, it is called Government and employees unions.
Rest of us are on our own.
Want some eggs? I have several dozen or so that will go
bad before I can eat them.
:thumbsup:
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 29, 2022, 06:40:51 AM
Kitv says its only 1 approved so far.
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I just saw an HNN excerpt this morning. Chief sitting down signing the approval with 8 or 9 of his cronies looking over his shoulder. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Reminds me of when they show biden signing one of his countless executive orders with his goons looking on smiling and nodding with approval.....
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 08:47:55 AM
I’m surprised the first person is not from this forum. Cause I would think most of you peeps here are hardcore on being one of the first to apply. Oh well, as soon as someone post here about theirs, then I know it’s legit. Until then, I no believe!
The first persons have a 60% chance of being on this forum as long as HPD process the apps first come first serve.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 08:51:44 AM
Like CMO mentioned above, HPD will mail out the approval letter. That individual probably wont know about it till tomorrow at the earliest.
You have too much faith that HPD would get the ball going and mail the letter that day or by tomorrow mornings mail pick up. I would speculate that the letter won't go out until Jan 3rd. I'll keep you posted if I can find out the post mark date.
The medical/mental health request letters weren't mailed out way after the apps were submitted.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 09:08:52 AM
The $10 could be paid at time of application. And then refunded if you're denied.
Nevada lets you pay at time of app and mails the card regular mail to you. If you lose the card and need a duplicate, you go to Metro and they issue you one on the spot. Lets see how HPD fucks this process up when someone loses and needs a duplicate. I'll bet they will run the background all over again and make you fill out the PTA and like forms.
Post by: RSN172 on December 29, 2022, 10:42:02 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 12:56:58 PM
He explained waiting for a letter is BS and takes too long. HPD said they will also call each approved applicant so they can come down that day to pick up their permit. I hope they honor this and don't change their mind.
So this is the guy and org who has been pushing this process and without him/HIFICO, we might still be at the Attorney General redefining what "good moral character" is.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 01:13:20 PM
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 29, 2022, 01:17:27 PM
Those applicants already went through the exhaustive process of acquiring a handgun. Basically the CCW applications are a carbon copy of the acquisition process.
How can or would he deny someone a CCW license yet permit that same someone to own a handgun?
What is he doing? Sitting at his desk and playing "eenie...meeenee...maihneee...mo?"
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 01:20:10 PM
1) 10 awaiting his signature.
2) none denied.
3) 50 apps who completed the new chiefs rules protocol and being reviewed.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 01:21:21 PM
Exactly what is the Chief using as his barometer as to whether to approve a CCW application or not?
Those applicants already went through the exhaustive process of acquiring a handgun. Basically the CCW applications are a carbon copy of the acquisition process.
How can or would he deny someone a CCW license yet permit that same someone to own a handgun?
What is he doing? Sitting at his desk and playing "eenie...meeenee...maihneee...mo?"
Digging his nose.
That's what I was thinking. If someone can own a gun, why does the CCW take longer than 2 weeks. I know guys who applied for PTA and CCW same time. Just so there's record of them being approved for PTA.
Post by: randay on December 29, 2022, 01:42:34 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 01:56:36 PM
Medical checks went out all the same time i guess.
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Post by: QUIETShooter on December 29, 2022, 06:09:32 PM
Too many f**kn Karens on this liberal gun hating state.
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 29, 2022, 06:16:03 PM
Just me personally but I don't want anyone to know I have a CCW.He didnt post the name and used tape to cover important info on the 3 ccw permits (1 per gun)
Too many f**kn Karens on this liberal gun hating state.
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Post by: Rocky on December 29, 2022, 08:52:08 PM
Just me personally but I don't want anyone to know I have a CCW.Ditto :thumbsup:
Too many f**kn Karens on this liberal gun hating state.
Post by: Rhed on December 29, 2022, 09:33:55 PM
Just me personally but I don't want anyone to know I have a CCW.So you won’t post here in 2aH if you got your ccw too?
Too many f**kn Karens on this liberal gun hating state.
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 29, 2022, 09:53:51 PM
So you won’t post here in 2aH if you got your ccw too?
No, I don't mind announcing on this forum if I do decide to apply for a CCW license and end up getting one.
My comment was more aimed at the public level. I as a 2a supporter and owner of firearms is a rarity among my family and friends. Most of them would be the "f**kn Karens" I'm talking about.
Post by: Rhed on December 29, 2022, 10:23:30 PM
No, I don't mind announcing on this forum if I do decide to apply for a CCW license and end up getting one.Same here.. Mentioned once about applying for ccw in a party with family and friends after the Bruen decision. That topic wet to a whole level of debate. And I have zero accounts or any activity in any forms of social media. Fo realz!
My comment was more aimed at the public level. I as a 2a supporter and owner of firearms is a rarity among my family and friends. Most of them would be the "f**kn Karens" I'm talking about.
Post by: drck1000 on December 29, 2022, 11:03:46 PM
No, I don't mind announcing on this forum if I do decide to apply for a CCW license and end up getting one.Same here. There are many that think similarly and are in similar situation in terms of family awareness and even acceptance. All of my close friends know I am a gun nut and many shoot as well. You met a couple at one of the range days. I can say through range days, I’ve seen support with 2a with friends and family grow through many of my friends.
My comment was more aimed at the public level. I as a 2a supporter and owner of firearms is a rarity among my family and friends. Most of them would be the "f**kn Karens" I'm talking about.
Back to topic. I know of a bunch of folks going through the process of getting the required credentials per HPD’s requirements. So only a matter of time until more and more folks and groups offering the “stuff” being required from HPD for CCW. Until then, my invitation for range time stands. :thumbsup:
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 30, 2022, 07:12:59 AM
Same here. There are many that think similarly and are in similar situation in terms of family awareness and even acceptance. All of my close friends know I am a gun nut and many shoot as well. You met a couple at one of the range days. I can say through range days, I’ve seen support with 2a with friends and family grow through many of my friends.
Back to topic. I know of a bunch of folks going through the process of getting the required credentials per HPD’s requirements. So only a matter of time until more and more folks and groups offering the “stuff” being required from HPD for CCW. Until then, my invitation for range time stands. :thumbsup:
I enjoyed the range days and spending time with like minded people. I liked that I could relax and just practice amongst fellow gun enthusiasts.
When I was working we had several gun enthusiasts, some were hunters and some just liked to shoot and train. We enjoyed talking shop with each other.
My best friend is a downright anti-2a gun hater. Although I love him dearly as a friend I'm very careful when our conversations drift toward gun politics. But because of our mutual respect for each other he doesn't get all "Karen" with me and respects me as a gun owner and 2a supporter.
My family is a different story. My immediate family (wife and kids) are the only ones in our extended Ohana that knows about me owning firearms and respects my request to not share this information with others. My wife and kids don't share the same love for firearms as I do, unfortunately.
When it comes to firearms ownership, I personally feel less is better. Meaning the less people know, the better it is for everyone concerned. Our society has become very polarized on this subject.
This is why I enjoy being at the range or participating in range days. We are among like minded people. :shaka: ;D
Post by: groveler on December 30, 2022, 01:35:42 PM
I enjoyed the range days and spending time with like minded people. I liked that I could relax and just practice amongst fellow gun enthusiasts.Being one of the more libertarian guys here I generally don't like public ranges. I prefer private and more informal settings.
When I was working we had several gun enthusiasts, some were hunters and some just liked to shoot and train. We enjoyed talking shop with each other.
My best friend is a downright anti-2a gun hater. Although I love him dearly as a friend I'm very careful when our conversations drift toward gun politics. But because of our mutual respect for each other he doesn't get all "Karen" with me and respects me as a gun owner and 2a supporter.
My family is a different story. My immediate family (wife and kids) are the only ones in our extended Ohana that knows about me owning firearms and respects my request to not share this information with others. My wife and kids don't share the same love for firearms as I do, unfortunately.
When it comes to firearms ownership, I personally feel less is better. Meaning the less people know, the better it is for everyone concerned. Our society has become very polarized on this subject.
This is why I enjoy being at the range or participating in range days. We are among like minded people. :shaka: ;D
Granted not everyone like me lives out in the middle of nowhere where such freedoms can be more easily practiced,
despite what the government dictates.
I have a property close to me where there is occasionally fully automatic weapons fired. Normal firing otherwise.
Do I call cops? No.
Public ranges suck because the rules are antithetical to friends having a good time, but they are essential for the safety
of a bunch of strangers wanting to shoot.
Just my opinion.
I don't like shooting with strangers. As a rule I do not.
:shaka:
Post by: Pancakes on December 31, 2022, 07:00:34 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 31, 2022, 08:28:37 AM
Where and with who did y’all do the range portion? I did the paperwork and applied before any approvals, but got busy and stalled out when I saw no one was approved for teaching/testing for the range portion.https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/topic?url=https%3A%2F%2F2ahawaii%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D48230%2E0&share_tid=48230&share_fid=30901&share_type=t&link_source=app
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Post by: ren on December 31, 2022, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: randay on December 31, 2022, 04:49:23 PM
I applied. Put in "Big Dog" for handgun make. Still waiting....IWB or fanny pack?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 31, 2022, 06:54:09 PM
I applied. Put in "Big Dog" for handgun make. Still waiting....
Dog can't have guns (felon).
(https://i.imgur.com/ybBZMpp.jpg)
Post by: groveler on January 01, 2023, 12:50:08 AM
Dog can't have guns (felon).Y'all know you can get that rescinded.
(https://i.imgur.com/ybBZMpp.jpg)
I helped a felon get his gun rights back.
:thumbsup:
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 01, 2023, 12:31:00 PM
Y'all know you can get that rescinded.He has been a public figure for a while and has yet to receive a pardon. Idk if he even asked.
I helped a felon get his gun rights back.
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Post by: oldfart on January 01, 2023, 02:15:49 PM
Just to piss us off.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 01, 2023, 04:34:31 PM
If I was a dik C.O.P., I would sign 1 per day or 1 per week.That as of today would be way more than that 1 ccw signed.
Just to piss us off.
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Post by: oldfart on January 01, 2023, 05:05:38 PM
That as of today would be way more than that 1 ccw signed....
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Dik mov
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 03, 2023, 08:49:30 AM
The first group of new CCW apps were submitted about a week before the only person who Logan has approved. Why is that? Are all 6 apps missing info or on it's way to be denied? The approvals should be a FIFO. The delay is intentional, thus corruption.
Post by: hvybarrels on January 03, 2023, 09:09:45 AM
I had a convo with my dad and I mentioned what happened and that Logan is showing is corruption. He denied it and said " He has to keep both sides happy, cause no matter what he does (approving CCW), he gets it from either side". I explained the law and rules are clear. Logan has no choice and can always state that which takes it out of his hands (forced to approve CCD) and that UIPA request were completed to show dates of when stuff was submitted. There is only 1 reason to delay the issuing of CCW to that first group of 6 people who submitted under the new rules. He didn't see it like that and referred back to his statement above.
The first group of new CCW apps were submitted about a week before the only person who Logan has approved. Why is that? Are all 6 apps missing info or on it's way to be denied? The approvals should be a FIFO. The delay is intentional, thus corruption.
A lot of people have the “auto response” chip soldered into their CPU to keep them from thinking unapproved thoughts. It used to frustrate me but taking a step back now we know what the last hours of Atlantean civilization must have felt like.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ee6-sI9rdtA
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 03, 2023, 07:23:45 PM
Hawaii is so messed up, man. So corrupt. That's why they do these kinds of things.
Post by: groveler on January 03, 2023, 07:32:11 PM
Chief Logan is saying "Ainokea, I do what I like....."I'm getting boring to read, but I don't give a fuk anymore.
Hawaii is so messed up, man. So corrupt. That's why they do these kinds of things.
There aren't enough cops, or money to enforce legitimate laws
much less the shit the Karls and Karens pronunce.
See I created a new racist comment, Karls.
O0
Post by: WTF?Shane on January 04, 2023, 04:33:34 PM
Post by: RSN172 on January 04, 2023, 05:14:08 PM
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 04, 2023, 06:57:35 PM
Mean while this morning news said over 100 CCW permits have been issued on Kauai and none have been denied.
How much on Oahu?
Still one?
:rofl:
Post by: macsak on January 04, 2023, 07:00:14 PM
Have they approved any more applications since?A bunch got issued today…
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Post by: Rhed on January 04, 2023, 07:19:14 PM
Post by: WTF?Shane on January 04, 2023, 07:37:17 PM
A bunch got issued today…
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Thanks. I also noticed the new thread that was created.
Post by: RSN172 on January 04, 2023, 07:41:55 PM
A bunch got issued today…How much is a bunch? 10? How many before blood starts running in the streets? Maybe after several thousand get issued the powers that be will realize they had nothing to be afraid of. Years ago they were afraid to legalize pepper spray, then Tasers, saying these things will be used to commit crimes.
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Post by: WTF?Shane on January 04, 2023, 07:44:51 PM
How much is a bunch? 10?
CMO got his and he mentioned applying with a group of about 6, so I'm going to assume at least those 6.
Post by: dogman on January 05, 2023, 05:39:10 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 05, 2023, 08:31:46 AM
CMO got his and he mentioned applying with a group of about 6, so I'm going to assume at least those 6.
Correct, but a few were unable to make it last night.
Since Mrs.CMO was handed hers 1st, she's the 1st person to get their CCW in 2023. And 2nd overall.
Post by: RSN172 on January 05, 2023, 09:45:51 AM
Post by: zippz on January 05, 2023, 10:07:24 AM
Can a HI resident get a permit for all four counties? Some travel to all the major islands for work on a regular basis.
You can. You have to apply in person and pickup the permit in person.
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 07, 2023, 11:53:13 AM
600 apps means $8500 in USPS charge. Prob way higher depending if the 600 is per person or apps as in if 1 person applied for 4 guns, thats 4 apps.
Then add in if thousands apply and this needs to be done annually.
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Post by: RSN172 on January 07, 2023, 12:08:15 PM
You can. You have to apply in person and pickup the permit in person.Can one use the same qualification for all counties? Could I use a BI qualification for an Oahu permit? If not it will be pretty expensive to be able to carry statewide.
Post by: robtmc on January 07, 2023, 01:27:15 PM
If not it will be pretty expensive to be able to carry statewide.That is the plan, as much pain as possible to exercise your God given rights to self defense.
If it was not for the permission to let them do a rectal exam on your private matters and the eternal redos of the damn thing, i might try.
Still not heard where they even have a BI facility to do the shooting exam. Cops do not have a range as far as i know.
Thank God for Arizona and freedom.
Post by: ilikebigbots on January 11, 2023, 08:46:39 PM
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 11, 2023, 09:11:58 PM
does anyone know anybody who got approved lately? next week will be a month without getting a call or mail for my approval for my license. any luck?My friend got a call from hpd and was told his app is "moving up in the process". He submitted 20 days ago.
Call them and ask to speak to who's in charge of the ccw. When i spoke to suzie, i got a vanilla reply "u will get a letter when ur approved".
Another person (male) i spoke to a few days later said my app went up to the chief.
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Post by: changemyoil66 on January 13, 2023, 10:14:10 AM
Can anyone else post updates on when they submitted and if they've heard from or called HPD?
Post by: Xavierbaker on January 13, 2023, 10:18:17 AM
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Post by: changemyoil66 on January 13, 2023, 10:24:43 AM
Submitted 12/20, no updates from hpd regarding it
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Call them and find out specific status on where your app is at. Post back. Beware if you talk to Suzie. U may have to ask for the CCW person in charge.