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Title: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 22, 2023, 10:37:47 AM
This happened in California.  Seems like they have more than their fair share of mass shootings despite the fact they are also in the top 3 of states with the most restrictive firearm laws.

Monterey Park mass shooting suspect on the loose
after 10 killed during Lunar New Year celebration

Quote
The manhunt continued Monterey Park, California, for a gunman who opened fire
Saturday night at a ballroom dance studio near a Lunar New Year festival, killing
10 people and wounding an additional 10 before he possibly targeted a second
dance hall and failed, investigators said Sunday morning.

There were still more questions than answers hours after the deadly shooting,
according to Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna, who said few details were
known about the suspect and the weapon used.

"The description we have now is of a male Asian," Luna told reporters during a
press conference. He emphasized it was a preliminary description and added the
suspect’s age may be between 30 and 50.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/monterey-park-mass-shooting-suspect-loose-10-killed-lunar-new-year-celebration

Asian male suspect?  That's going to piss off a bunch of Left-wing-nuts who would jump at the chance to blame this on White Nationalists and/or violence against Asians over the COVID-19 pandemic.

What's caught my eye is that the estimated age is 30-50 years old.  It's a common belief that it's difficult to tell the age of most Asians.  Not sure if that's a fact, but many think it is true.

I've seen in the article's comments how the media is trying to rebrand Chinese New Year as Lunar New Year, to take away the national component and replacing it with something more generic.

Conspiracy time:  seems like each time Biden's in trouble -- this time for classified documents -- there's a mass shooting.  Just like i don't believe everything is a false flag operation, I don't believe every major crime is a distraction.  But in this case, it would not only distract from news on Biden, but it would also bolster the assault weapons ban he's been pushing ever since inauguration.  No info on what type of weapon was used, but a minor detail like that has never stopped the targeting of semi-auto sporting rifles.

I hope they catch the guy alive, so we can maybe have some answers, and the victims and family members can have some closure.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: groveler on January 22, 2023, 01:03:14 PM
Presumed shooter dead.
Asian guy.
Maybe we should outlaw white vans.
They seem to generate mass killings.
 :geekdanc: :wave:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 22, 2023, 01:59:56 PM
Presumed shooter dead.
Asian guy.
Maybe we should outlaw white vans.
They seem to generate mass killings.
 :geekdanc: :wave:
FOX News was reporting on Twitter users who blamed White Supremacy and anti-Asian hate for the shooting.

This, before any description of the suspect was released.

 :wtf:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: groveler on January 22, 2023, 02:22:41 PM
FOX News was reporting on Twitter users who blamed White Supremacy and anti-Asian hate for the shooting.

This, before any description of the suspect was released.

 :wtf:
You know the California state university system considers Asians to be "white" for admissions
measurements.
I don't have a racist bone in my body.However there are cultures I despise.
and others I don't like so much.
I can't think of a single black culture I respect. .From Rwanda to Chicago they all suck.
I think Han Chinese are about the most racist culture on the earth,
What other country has as their symbol the center of the universe?
My culture isn't that arrogant.
Not even Japanese are that arrogant.
Now that I've pissed everybody off.
Let's all get to work making sure we can all carry guns to protect ourselves
from the freaking government.
 :shaka:

Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 22, 2023, 02:36:09 PM
You know the California state university system considers Asians to be "white" for admissions
measurements.
I don't have a racist bone in my body.However there are cultures I despise.
and others I don't like so much.
I can't think of a single black culture I respect. .From Rwanda to Chicago they all suck.
I think Han Chinese are about the most racist culture on the earth,
What other country has as their symbol the center of the universe?
My culture isn't that arrogant.
Not even Japanese are that arrogant.
Now that I've pissed everybody off.
Let's all get to work making sure we can all carry guns to protect ourselves
from the freaking government.
 :shaka:

Tangential sub-topic alert!

Growing up in the South, there were many, many Blacks in my circle, from K-12, high school band, AFJROTC, and so on.

What I observed is that, as my friends and acquaintances got older, they changed.  They only liked associating with their own race outside of work.  That applied to Whites as well.

I think desegregating schools may have benefited minorities in that people who would not have the same opportunities at mostly minority-populated schools, but they tended to self-segregate after high school.  Look at colleges now setting up Black-only dorms.    O0  :crazy:

I learned early in Social Studies that a "nation" is a collection of people with like race, appearance, language and customs.  Nations existed for centuries because humans tend to associate with others with similar characteristics, language and beliefs/values.

Until society quits highlighting race in our laws, entertainment, schools, employment, and so on, race will continue to matter on a societal level.  Individually, people are all the same.  Some are worth knowing, and the rest should be avoided.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: groveler on January 22, 2023, 03:19:25 PM
Tangential sub-topic alert!

Growing up in the South, there were many, many Blacks in my circle, from K-12, high school band, AFJROTC, and so on.

What I observed is that, as my friends and acquaintances got older, they changed.  They only liked associating with their own race outside of work.  That applied to Whites as well.

I think desegregating schools may have benefited minorities in that people who would not have the same opportunities at mostly minority-populated schools, but they tended to self-segregate after high school.  Look at colleges now setting up Black-only dorms.    O0  :crazy:

I learned early in Social Studies that a "nation" is a collection of people with like race, appearance, language and customs.  Nations existed for centuries because humans tend to associate with others with similar characteristics, language and beliefs/values.

Until society quits highlighting race in our laws, entertainment, schools, employment, and so on, race will continue to matter on a societal level.  Individually, people are all the same.  Some are worth knowing, and the rest should be avoided.
"Some are worth knowing, and the rest should be avoided."
Well stated.
I avoid all Democrats.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: ren on January 22, 2023, 05:39:06 PM
https://www.khon2.com/news/national/gunman-in-southern-california-shooting-that-killed-10-wounded-10-is-dead/

Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna identified the man as 72-year-old Huu Can Tran and said no other suspects were at large. Speaking at an evening news conference, he added that the motive remained unclear for the attack, which wounded 10 more.

Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 22, 2023, 06:26:56 PM
"Assault pistol" w/ xtended mag recovered.

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Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 22, 2023, 11:18:24 PM
"Assault pistol" w/ xtended mag recovered.


Define "xtended."
Title: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: 4C5S on January 23, 2023, 05:57:39 AM
The national media will bury this. The facts don’t fit THEIR narrative.

Very sad.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 23, 2023, 09:11:03 AM
1 IG infuencer has connections to the dance studio, her parents go there.  She stated is was a domestic dispute. Didn't state whether it was husband/wife or other family relations.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 23, 2023, 09:39:34 AM
I don't have a racist bone in my body. However there are cultures I despise.
and others I don't like so much.
I can't think of a single black culture I respect. .From Rwanda to Chicago they all suck.
How you are able to separate culture from a race of people is beyond belief.  All races have their own distinct culture whether be it the Chinese, Jews, etc.  For anyone to say that they are not racist against Black people, but at the same time admit that they don't respect any variations of black culture is truly contradictory.



I think Han Chinese are about the most racist culture on the earth,
What other country has as their symbol the center of the universe?
Oh really?  Chinese people have the most racist culture on the Earth?  Give me a break.   :crazy:

Do foreign visitors to China fall victim to hate related crimes as Chinese people living in the US empire do?

Do non-Chinese people in China have to look over their shoulder to be sure they are not targets of "knock out" games targeted at them?



My culture isn't that arrogant.
What culture do you represent?

I am going to have fun with this. 
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 23, 2023, 10:02:17 AM
Mac 10? Guaranz viet got it from a vato.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230123/04acb0624a1ed0b8cc8b190556c60225.jpg)

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Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 23, 2023, 11:44:17 AM
How you are able to separate culture from a race of people is beyond belief.  All races have their own distinct culture whether be it the Chinese, Jews, etc.  For anyone to say that they are not racist against Black people, but at the same time admit that they don't respect any variations of black culture is truly contradictory.


Oh really?  Chinese people have the most racist culture on the Earth?  Give me a break.   :crazy:

Do foreign visitors to China fall victim to hate related crimes as Chinese people living in the US empire do?

Do non-Chinese people in China have to look over their shoulder to be sure they are not targets of "knock out" games targeted at them?


What culture do you represent?

I am going to have fun with this.

 :stopjack:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 23, 2023, 02:15:21 PM
Cenk Uygur MOCKED For Blaming Guns For CA Shooting
Despite CA Having STRICTEST Gun Laws


Timcast

https://youtu.be/N_kJZb2ZAbk
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 23, 2023, 06:20:20 PM
Another 67 year old shooter at a farm. 7 dead. Chinese name.

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Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 23, 2023, 06:51:28 PM
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Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: macsak on January 23, 2023, 07:27:57 PM
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Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: groveler on January 23, 2023, 08:38:30 PM
How you are able to separate culture from a race of people is beyond belief.  All races have their own distinct culture whether be it the Chinese, Jews, etc.  For anyone to say that they are not racist against Black people, but at the same time admit that they don't respect any variations of black culture is truly contradictory.


Oh really?  Chinese people have the most racist culture on the Earth?  Give me a break.   :crazy:

Do foreign visitors to China fall victim to hate related crimes as Chinese people living in the US empire do?

Do non-Chinese people in China have to look over their shoulder to be sure they are not targets of "knock out" games targeted at them?


What culture do you represent?

I am going to have fun with this.
Y'all are kind of stupid.
Race and sex is something you are born with.
Culture is what you learn.
If you can't tell the difference then you have issues.
I know many white "niggers." and many blacks that
are more "white" than I am.
I make that distinction because I'm an educated guy and I don't
blame people for what they are at birth.
Nor do I give them special rights or take away their God given rights.
I do blame them for how they act as adults.

You can be an ass. But being responsible is not your strong suit.
No insult to you personally, but your ideas suck.
My ideas may also offend, but I consider that
to be fair game for discussion. Just as your beliefs are.
Friend.
 :shaka:








Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 23, 2023, 09:35:16 PM
Another 67 year old shooter at a farm. 7 dead. Chinese name.

The report I saw says he went to a nursery, shot 5 people killing 4 and wounding one critically, then drove to a second nursery where he shot and killed 3 more people.

A semi-automatic pistol was recovered in the car in which the suspect was arrested.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: RSN172 on January 24, 2023, 06:58:58 AM
Gotta watch out for those old Pakes with guns.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: ren on January 24, 2023, 07:01:35 AM
waycist
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: aletheuo137 on January 24, 2023, 07:50:15 AM
Another 67 year old shooter at a farm. 7 dead. Chinese name.

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Waist!

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Title: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: 4C5S on January 24, 2023, 07:52:06 AM
https://rumble.com/v26x5cm-the-moment-hero-brandon-tsay-wrestled-gun-away-from-monterey-park-shooter.html

Pretty damn heroic!
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: RSN172 on January 24, 2023, 09:53:58 AM
waycist
I not cause I stay half Pake.  My paternal grandparents com Hawaii straight fom China in da late 1890's.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2023, 10:44:13 AM
https://rumble.com/v26x5cm-the-moment-hero-brandon-tsay-wrestled-gun-away-from-monterey-park-shooter.html

Pretty damn heroic!

He was very lucky that the guy didn't have a 2nd weapon, even a knife. And that the guy was an old man and not a younger stronger guy.  1 guy is willing to take lives, the other isn't willing to do the same to defend others.  He way playing keep away pretty much.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 24, 2023, 11:50:15 AM
I know many white "niggers." and many blacks that are more "white" than I am.
Your mere acknowledgement of the above reaffirms the intrinsic connection between culture and race.  When you refer to those White people who adopt elements of Black culture and Black people who do vice-versa, you already make the presumption that in both cases, both Whites and Blacks decide to adopt a culture that is foreign to them and most people of their respective race.



I make that distinction because I'm an educated guy and I don't blame people for what they are at birth.
Nor do I give them special rights or take away their God given rights.  I do blame them for how they act as adults.
You apparently go beyond that when you say you don't respect Black, Asian, or local Hawaii culture.



No insult to you personally, but your ideas suck.
No insult taken as many Hawaiians are used to those kinds of racist comments that typically come from non-Hawaii born White people.   :shaka:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2023, 11:52:37 AM
I not cause I stay half Pake.  My paternal grandparents com Hawaii straight fom China in da late 1890's.

I'm boning a pake, does this count as not being waycist?
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 24, 2023, 12:04:19 PM
I'm boning a pake, does this count as not being waycist?

Or, is the pake boning YoU?

Hmmmm....
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2023, 12:07:24 PM
Or, is the pake boning YoU?

Hmmmm....

Sometimes..... :rofl:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: RSN172 on January 24, 2023, 12:21:24 PM
I'm boning a pake, does this count as not being waycist?
Az long az da Pake is.yoa.wife.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2023, 12:36:14 PM
Az long az da Pake is.yoa.wife.

Don't ask, don't tell.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: groveler on January 24, 2023, 09:25:42 PM
Your mere acknowledgement of the above reaffirms the intrinsic connection between culture and race.  When you refer to those White people who adopt elements of Black culture and Black people who do vice-versa, you already make the presumption that in both cases, both Whites and Blacks decide to adopt a culture that is foreign to them and most people of their respective race.


You apparently go beyond that when you say you don't respect Black, Asian, or local Hawaii culture.


No insult taken as many Hawaiians are used to those kinds of racist comments that typically come from non-Hawaii born White people.   :shaka:
i Really want to know why you think you are special because of where you were born?
You had no control over that. it is just Geography.
I was born in California, does that make me special?
There is no California race anymore than there is a "Hawaiian race".
Or a New York race, or a Russian race.
Idiot.
You could have been born in Hawaii and raised in Indonesia, what would you be?
Is Obama a Hawaiian?
No, he is an asshole grifter.
Hawaii isn't old enough for people to have magically
evolved from the primordial soup. everything here is imported including
myself.If you think you are more special than all the other imported peoples
then fuck you.
Aloha.
 :love:







Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: randay on January 25, 2023, 07:47:40 AM
i just gotta say this thread is fucking insane. dial it back folks, get off the internet and go outside for a bit.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 08:02:17 AM
i Really want to know why you think you are special because of where you were born?
Never said I was special.



You had no control over that. it is just Geography.
I was born in California, does that make me special?
There is no California race anymore than there is a "Hawaiian race".
Or a New York race, or a Russian race.
Idiot.
There are, however, many different ethnicities in those places you stated that intrinsically have their own distinct culture that is different from each other.



You could have been born in Hawaii and raised in Indonesia, what would you be?
You would be a person born of a certain race and/or ethnicity initially raised with the culture characteristics belonging to those demographics and now living in Indonesia.



Is Obama a Hawaiian?
No, he is an asshole grifter.
Obama is not an aboriginal Hawaiian.

The former US president is a multiracial Black American that was partially raised in Hawaii and later moved to the continental US.



Hawaii isn't old enough for people to have magically evolved from the primordial soup. everything here is imported including
myself.If you think you are more special than all the other imported peoples then fuck you.
Per your response above, it would appear that it is you who thinks you are special enough as to resort to name calling and making such profane statements.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: hvybarrels on January 25, 2023, 08:13:27 AM
Don’t feed the Chi-com race troll

Their goal is to divide us so we can be picked off one by one
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 08:22:06 AM
Don’t feed the Chi-com race troll.
You are so funny.    :rofl:



Their goal is to divide us so we can be picked off one by one.
Picked off one by one?    :crazy:

Who do you mean when you say, "us"?   ???

And what group are you referring to as to whom will facilitate the so-called "picking off"?   :wacko:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: groveler on January 25, 2023, 10:27:51 AM
Never said I was special.


There are, however, many different ethnicities in those places you stated that intrinsically have their own distinct culture that is different from each other.


You would be a person born of a certain race and/or ethnicity initially raised with the culture characteristics belonging to those demographics and now living in Indonesia.


Obama is not an aboriginal Hawaiian.

The former US president is a multiracial Black American that was partially raised in Hawaii and later moved to the continental US.


Per your response above, it would appear that it is you who thinks you are special enough as to resort to name calling and making such profane statements.
"Never said I was special." ,  bull shit.
Anybody that claims special privileges because of a aboriginal background is bull shit.
I don't call people names I call them what they are and if my military colloquialisms offend you I'm sorry.
I could find a thousand reasons to be offended by my conquers, which one do i pick
Jew, Polish, English, French, aboriginal back grounds?
I choose to deal with political idiots in the real world today and not pine for a lost, failed
Kingdom as you do.
Y'all help me get Constitutional carry here in Hawaii and we are in sync.
Your Kingdom would not allow that.



Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: hvybarrels on January 25, 2023, 11:41:55 AM
We’ve seen what China did to the Uyghurs

If the CCP takes control of da islands then you bet Hawaiian sovereignty activists will be rounded up for some internment camping
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 11:58:58 AM
I choose to deal with political idiots in the real world today and not pine for a lost, failed Kingdom as you do.
Not a failed Kingdom, but an illegally overthrown and illegally occupied nation.



Y'all help me get Constitutional carry here in Hawaii and we are in sync.
Your Kingdom would not allow that.
How do you know that gun ownership was outlawed by the legal constitution of the Hawaiian Kingdom?
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 12:02:55 PM
We’ve seen what China did to the Uyghurs.
Pure anti-China speculation.



If the CCP takes control of da islands then you bet Hawaiian sovereignty activists will be rounded up for some internment camping.
That would be true if China did have internment camps like how America incarcerates individuals without due process at Guantanamo.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 25, 2023, 12:04:13 PM
We’ve seen what China did to the Uyghurs

If the CCP takes control of da islands then you bet Hawaiian sovereignty activists will be rounded up for some internment camping

And we know which politicians and HPD will bend over backwards handing out all the registration info and like info.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: drck1000 on January 25, 2023, 12:29:56 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

Pure speculation?  I'm not the most informed on the issue, but how can someone who isn't there or been there say without a doubt, it's speculation?  Or maybe 50% pure?   ???  ::)
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 25, 2023, 12:44:22 PM
 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:

(https://i.imgur.com/wqJgW07.gif)
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 25, 2023, 01:01:05 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

Pure speculation?  I'm not the most informed on the issue, but how can someone who isn't there or been there say without a doubt, it's speculation?  Or maybe 50% pure?   ???  ::)

This has been going on for some time now.  The CCP did the same to the Fau Long Gong practitioners, Muslims, etc...IDK about execution of them, but def thrown in jail and not heard from.

You don't have the 1A there or the 2A to defend yourself.

You would think after all these immigrants coming here from China, that they would be a little more distrusting when the government here tells them something.  Or it could be that they trust the US cause compared to the CCP, the US is a saint.

I have a friend whos parents are from the Philipines and their village was jacked up by the government. So he understands the importance of the 2A. he is super Gung Ho and submits test all the time and calls to ask me questions. He bought new guns years ago and has yet to shoot them. But he still supports the cause greatly, even though he doesn't go to the range.  And each time, he brings up the PI on why the 2a is important.  He doesn't shoot often cause the fumes give him mean allergies. And with COVID around, he can't have a running nose for 4 days or sneezing for 4 days at work.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 25, 2023, 01:03:31 PM
There is 1 bill that bans CCW in events and/or events sponsored by any non-profit. So this shooting example, if the dance was put on by a non-profit, 1 would not be able to CCW.  Or the Chinatown block party here if it's put on by say the Chinese Jaycee's. 

This is why it's important to submit test when the time comes.  Lawsuits take years and money.  And only if the lawsuit is won, the law stays in place. Unless an injuction is issued.  But it might be only for the involved party.  Like the IL injuction only applied to the plantifs and not everyone in the state. So yesterday like 800 more people sued IL so they can be protected by the injunction.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 01:05:42 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

Pure speculation?  I'm not the most informed on the issue, but how can someone who isn't there or been there say without a doubt, it's speculation?  Or maybe 50% pure?   ???  ::)
Perhaps not pure speculation like you said.

However, just for everyone's knowledge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oup8JmapH_Y
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: groveler on January 25, 2023, 01:15:18 PM
Not a failed Kingdom, but an illegally overthrown and illegally occupied nation.


How do you know that gun ownership was outlawed by the legal constitution of the Hawaiian Kingdom?
You don't read very well, I didn't say ownership I said Constitutional carry.
That is open carry which scares the hell out of people here in Hawaii.
Y'all think your fellow citizens are too immature to settle problems like adults,
in courts or arbitration.
Perhaps your culture is that immature, mine isn't.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: macsak on January 25, 2023, 02:01:13 PM
so wait, you support the UN?

Perhaps not pure speculation like you said.

However, just for everyone's knowledge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oup8JmapH_Y
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 02:53:54 PM
so wait, you support the UN?
My post was not to support the UN but provide evidence to further falsify the anti-China accusations in regard to the treatment of Uyghur minorities that live in China.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 25, 2023, 03:07:38 PM
My post was not to support the UN but provide evidence to further falsify the anti-China accusations in regard to the treatment of Uyghur minorities that live in China.

Please explain how any of that relates to the topic.

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 03:18:16 PM
Y'all think your fellow citizens are too immature to settle problems like adults, in courts or arbitration.
Perhaps your culture is that immature, mine isn't.
Despite living in Hawaii as long as you have, you still don't know much about Hawaiians, our history, taken the time to recognize the efforts of Hawaiian nationals to legally end the illegal occupation of Hawaii.  In fact, contrary to your condescending beliefs about Hawaiians, Hawaiian nationals have gone to the Court of Arbitration in the Hague and internationally exposed the illegal occupation of Hawaii as well as legally reaffirmed the continued existence of the Hawaiian Kingdom in the eyes of the World.

Have a nice day!   :shaka:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmpXy2okJIg
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 03:20:14 PM
Please explain how any of that relates to the topic.

 :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
You should also ask that question to the other people who are party to the conversation I was in.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 25, 2023, 03:22:22 PM
You should also ask that question to the other people who are party to the conversation I was in.

So, you know it's wrong, but it's not your fault if someone else is a co-hijacker?

 :wacko:

By the way, your cohort has also posted on-topic comments here.  All of yours have been off-topic.

You started with "I'm going to have fun with this."

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=48745.msg444578#msg444578
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 03:25:06 PM
So, you know it's wrong, but it's not your fault if someone else is a co-hijacker?

 :wacko:
Where did I say that I was innocent?   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 25, 2023, 03:27:31 PM
Where did I say that I was innocent?   :geekdanc:

Where did I say you said you were?

Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 03:55:25 PM
So, you know it's wrong, but it's not your fault if someone else is a co-hijacker?

 :wacko:

By the way, your cohort has also posted on-topic comments here.  All of yours have been off-topic.

You started with "I'm going to have fun with this."

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=48745.msg444578#msg444578



So, you are ok with people making racist comments as well as saying things way off-topic like those below and for those that call that out, you accuse them of hijacking a thread?

However there are cultures I despise.
and others I don't like so much.
I can't think of a single black culture I respect. From Rwanda to Chicago they all suck.
I think Han Chinese are about the most racist culture on the earth,
What other country has as their symbol the center of the universe?
My culture isn't that arrogant.
Not even Japanese are that arrogant.
Now that I've pissed everybody off.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 25, 2023, 04:05:40 PM


So, you are ok with people making racist comments as well as saying things way off-topic like those below and for those that call that out, you accuse them of hijacking a thread?

Not my wish or place to pass judgement on the character of commenters/comments.

As the OP, it is my concern that the hijacking be called out and hopefully curtailed.  You chose to disrespect me by ignoring multiple  :stopjack: pleas.

I asked the mods to delete this entire thread.  Your time, feelings and words have all been wasted.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 04:14:46 PM
Not my wish or place to pass judgement on the character of commenters/comments.
You chose to disrespect me by ignoring multiple  :stopjack: pleas.
Figures, blame me and ignore everybody else responsible as well as sweep under the rug those who make racist hate harangues.



I asked the mods to delete this entire thread.  Your time, feelings and words have all been wasted.
Not really, as calling out racism is necessary for a harmonious society.

Have a nice day as well.   :shaka:
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 25, 2023, 04:33:40 PM
Figures, blame me and ignore everybody else responsible as well as sweep under the rug those who make racist hate harangues.


Have a nice day as well.   :shaka:

I thought I'd appeal to the more mature individual involved, since you would be more likely to see your mistake and bow out of the pissing match gracefully.

I guess I was wrong to assume that.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Kuleana on January 25, 2023, 04:49:09 PM
I thought I'd appeal to the more mature individual involved, since you would be more likely to see your mistake and bow out of the pissing match gracefully.

I guess I was wrong to assume that.
You were not wrong in your assumption and please do not presume that I think you are/or harbor any ill-racist leanings cause I know you do not.

However, racially toned statements made by others should never be part of anyone's posts, and everyone should collectively police that quickly, so things don't get out of hand as unfortunately what happened in this thread.  I take no pleasure what transpired on this thread and apologize for disrespecting your request earlier.


Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 25, 2023, 04:54:21 PM
You were not wrong in your assumption and please do not presume that I think you are/or harbor any ill-racist leanings cause I know you do not.

However, racially toned statements made by others should never be part of anyone's posts, and everyone should collectively police that quickly, so things don't get out of hand as unfortunately what happened in this thread.  I take no pleasure what transpired on this thread and apologize for disrespecting your request earlier.

it's not anyone's place on here to say what others should or should not say.  If it violates the TOS, then the mods can delete the comments.  If not, then you have the right to contradict or admonish the commenter.  But to say people aren't allowed to express their thoughts freely, even offensive thoughts, isn't a good look.

For the record, posting comments that offend others are permitted here.  Thread-jacking is supposed to be prohibited.

Just follow the rules.
Title: Re: 10 Dead & At Least 15 Wounded in Lunar New Year Celebration
Post by: Jl808 on January 25, 2023, 10:06:18 PM
I am locking this thread as it has completely derailed.