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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: 230RN on February 16, 2023, 09:23:30 PM
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I'm just saying hello to anyone stopping by from The High Road.
:shaka:
Terry
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whoa...it's been a few years.
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I linked to this site from there, just saying hello to anyone who made the trip and logged in. :wave:
This was in relation to the Tulsi Gabbard transformation à la the Second Amendment.
I sorta left 2ahawaii dot com because it became evident that my plaints and pleas for a strict reading of the Second Amendment were to no avail.
I am disappointed to see that the "line at the HPD" thread was STILL near the top of thread postings. Seems to me that's a clear infringement (oops!) restriction on the right to keep and bear arms.
Gee whiz, don't your government leaders AND JUDGES out there read English?
Terry, "Keeping and bearing," 230RN
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Hiya Terry
Glad to see that you are still on the right side of the grass! It has been a while
Aloha
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Mahalo oe.
Just tryin; to push that pendulum back the other way.
Haven't been keeping close track of Hawaiian affairs, but one thing I noticed was that concealed carry permits have been issued on Maui.
My "extremist" view is that the government has no right to tell you whether or not you can carry concealed and if you want to carry a gun in your hat or your jock strap, it's none of their business how you "bear."
I've gone into this elsewhere, but my belief is the Inventors of our country knew what they were doing,. and even pre-Darwin's natural selection theory, recognized the notion that free keeping and bearing would result in the hotheads and ne'er-do-wells weeding themselves out. Yes, a certain amount of inoocents would be harmed, but all in all, the numbers would ultimately be less than with tight restrictions on keeping and bearing.
Put it this way. The Valentine's Day Massacre eliminated seven or eight crooks from the population without even the cost of a trial. "Moral?" "Hell, let the gangs fight it out among themselves until one kingpin emerges, then go after him for tax evasion." (I'm reminding you of how they finally got Al Capone out of circulation.)
And Billy The Kid killed seven or eight people by the time he was 22. His killing stopped at that point because he was shot to death.
Good old Darwin. Knew what he was talking about, too.
In sum: The benefits of strict observation of the Second Amendment far outweigh the so-called benefits of restricting that right.
I said it and I ain't takin' it back.
Terry, 230RN
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Ccws have been issued in all counties. Honolulu (oahu) was the last.
Idk abt islands though, like were any issued on molokai which falls under maui county.
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Ccws have been issued in all counties. Honolulu (Oahu) was the last.
Idk abt islands though, like were any issued on molokai which falls under Maui county.
Woo-hoo ! <sarcasm>
Maui was the one that happened to come to my attention, But you should not need any permit whatsoever.
I know I need not quote the Second Amendment, but I will quote the reason for it... as well as the other nine Amendments forming the Bill of Rights (BOR),
Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.
THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
(Bolding and underlining mine)
https://drexel.edu/ogcr/resources/constitution/amendments/preamble/
Those Inventors of our country, in common with other writers of the time, liked to preface their concepts with the "reasons" for their words, that is, "preambles." Therefore, we have the Preamble to the Constitution ("...in order to form a more perfect Union...") and ithe old "When in the course of human events..." which started it all.
Hence, this Preamble to the BOR spelled out "why."
And those words, as well as the main body of our Constitution, form the highest law of the land.
And don't you forget it.
Terry, 230RN
(Edited for typos)