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General Topics => Legal and Activism => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on March 15, 2023, 08:43:04 AM

Title: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 15, 2023, 08:43:04 AM

Hearing is on 3/17 @ 3:02pm.

Use link below:
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/account/login.aspx?return=/account/submittestimony.aspx

Sign in and enter " HB426".

This bill will hold any firearm seller or accessory seller liable if someone uses the item illegally and the item was sold without "resonable controls" to keep it out of the hands of someone who will use it illegally.

This includes if you sell any item on the forum here in the classifieds.  Again, this isn't only firearms, but parts as well. So buttstock, mags, springs, barrel, ammo, etc...

Even if the lawsuit is moot, it will still cost money to hire an attorney to defend yourself.

Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: akupalu on March 15, 2023, 12:57:49 PM

Thanks cmo

Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 16, 2023, 11:13:44 AM

FYI, the Heller Foundation is submitting testimony.

Heller was a SCOTUS lawsuit that said the 2nd doesn't only apply to the militia and people have a right to own a gun and self defesne.

Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: hvybarrels on March 16, 2023, 11:37:25 AM

Submitted.

I have too many projects and not enough time to figure out how to use a 3d printer.

Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2023, 04:33:19 PM

Bill passes. Awa only no vote.

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Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: akupalu on March 17, 2023, 05:38:58 PM

Quote from: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2023, 04:33:19 PM

Bill passes. Awa only no vote.

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Dat sucks

Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: jd0210 on March 17, 2023, 05:48:00 PM

Bummer, how would that even work with online stores? If someone steals my rifle and does god forbid.  and I built the rifle with a barrel from brownells and a handguard from midway.  I don’t even know.

Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2023, 06:06:58 PM

Quote from: jd0210 on March 17, 2023, 05:48:00 PM

Bummer, how would that even work with online stores? If someone steals my rifle and does god forbid.  and I built the rifle with a barrel from brownells and a handguard from midway.  I don’t even know.

This bill is for sales or distribution. As long as ur guns are reasonably secured, u should be fine.

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Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: jd0210 on March 17, 2023, 06:32:41 PM

Quote from: changemyoil66 on March 17, 2023, 06:06:58 PM

This bill is for sales or distribution. As long as ur guns are reasonably secured, u should be fine.

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I’m just thinking about how the online shopping experience will be affected.  Like if I buy a simple ejection port cover for my ar online.  I assume a retailer like brownells would not want the liability. Unless this only applies to sales within the state.


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Title: Re: ***FIRE MISSION*** HB426 due before 3/16 @ 3:02pm
Post by: randay on March 17, 2023, 06:46:05 PM

honestly theres nothing to worry about here. its one of the most pathetic pieces of legislation ive ever seen.