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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: 2AHawaii808 on March 18, 2023, 08:59:09 AM
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Just got a call informing me that my CCW paperwork was sent back down for a minor issue. I just wanted to give a big mahalo to HPD for working on our paperwork’s on a Saturday. I know they’re backed up but they are working on it. So just be patient and give them time. I have been waiting for a while like the rest of you but not once have I’ve bothered them to ask about my application status. But let me tell you they are doing their part to get everyone situated. So just let them do their thing and hopefully we all get our CCW soon. Have a blessed Aloha Saturday 2AFam!!
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And Ricky B doing his best to make a CCW permit as worthless as possible.
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I just wanted to give a big mahalo to HPD for working on our paperwork’s on a Saturday. ......
So just let them do their thing and hopefully we all get our CCW soon.
It is your Constitutional right, what the hell are you thanking them for?
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I’ve had a couple Sgts call be after hours to correct/verify things where I think some couple have just rejected the paperwork. One was on a Friday evening and another on a Saturday. While I think the process could be better, good to see some folks making effort to be helpful (where can).
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Just got a call informing me that my CCW paperwork was sent back down for a minor issue. I just wanted to give a big mahalo to HPD for working on our paperwork’s on a Saturday. I know they’re backed up but they are working on it. So just be patient and give them time. I have been waiting for a while like the rest of you but not once have I’ve bothered them to ask about my application status. But let me tell you they are doing their part to get everyone situated. So just let them do their thing and hopefully we all get our CCW soon. Have a blessed Aloha Saturday 2AFam!!
Mahalo.
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I got the same phone call this morning. They just wanted to verify that I was ok with them putting "NA" in red ink in a couple boxes that didn't apply to me. I was surprised also they were working on a Saturday.
Was told I would be hearing from them very shortly. I'm very excited to only be well protected on these deadly sidewalks we got here in Oahu.
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You’re joking right? They’ve been dragging their ass on this for months. How long does it take to look over a bunch 14day background checks an application and a notarized form. If you think it’s slow now, wait til next years new applications and renewals. The whole process with no time deadline is a joke.
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I have no sympathy for the people who create the process and then use the amount of work involved as an excuse for delays. It's not like the Chief isn't the guy who made all the CCW rules.
Famous case of Carol Browne in New Jersey who filed a Domestic Abuse TRO against her ex-boyfriend in March. Browne filed the restraining order against her ex after abuses such as hitting her, smashing her face into her trucks dashboard, breaking her nose, splitting her face and strangling her.
She applied for a firearm license on April 21. She was murdered by her ex on June 3.
You can find the specifics online.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Carol_Bowne
The individual HPD officers might not be the one's who created the rules, but they work for the man who did. If they are taking a long time to process applications, the officers have a duty to let the Chief know and to find ways to shorten license approval times. Cutting the Cops some slack is just accepting a bad situation that can be -- and should have been -- avoided.
A right delayed is a right denied.
#StockholmSyndrome
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If the Cops are working nights and weekends to make phone calls, you can bet it's not because they are trying to speed up the approvals.
It's called overtime and shift differential pay.
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Come may 1st, ccw license will be useless. Hopefully scotus can hear our complaints, and over rule these ridiculous anti 2a bills being made up by majority of our hawaii lawmakers that seem to be supporting the criminals here.
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And after we all get our CCW's lets meet somewhere on the sidewalk and have a clambake or something.
woo hoo........ :rofl:
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I am not thankful for them jerking us around
No mahalo from me
More like FU!!! 🖕🖕
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Just got a call informing me that my CCW paperwork was sent back down for a minor issue. I just wanted to give a big mahalo to HPD for working on our paperwork’s on a Saturday. I know they’re backed up but they are working on it. So just be patient and give them time. I have been waiting for a while like the rest of you but not once have I’ve bothered them to ask about my application status. But let me tell you they are doing their part to get everyone situated. So just let them do their thing and hopefully we all get our CCW soon. Have a blessed Aloha Saturday 2AFam!!
Is that you chief?
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HPD is a shit sandwich….Loser Logan sux! F em all! :grrr:
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HPD is a shit sandwich….Loser Logan sux! F em all! :grrr:
Agree. Along with the administrations of the City and County and of this sad State.
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mahalo HPD and our great senators for keeping us safe from gun violence and vetted, qualifed, licensed individuals.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/03/21/publics-help-sought-locating-3-suspect-wanted-attempted-murder-robbery/
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Come may 1st, ccw license will be useless. Hopefully scotus can hear our complaints, and over rule these ridiculous anti 2a bills being made up by majority of our hawaii lawmakers that seem to be supporting the criminals here.
Perhaps it is time to become a criminal?
:shaka:
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Not sure on the hate. HPD was very helpful for my ccw permit. 99% of the police are probably just trying to help. Don't politicize everything.
In my case, it's not hate.
It's just a negative opinion based on Hawaii's unconstitutional laws and restrictions that are now being doubled-down on by the state to try and continue their gun control nonsense even after the SCOTUS ruled in general that the majority of these laws are illegal.
Compare Hawaii's processes to other states that actually support our constitutional rights. The police should not be in the position of having to be "very helpful".
If you think opposing oppressive and unconstitutional laws, rules and processes is 'politicizing everything," then i guess I'm politicizing.
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of course its politics bc chief is a political puppet
look how long its taking to process paperwork. it truly does not take this long to check the paperwork and sign the permit. you think it really takes 90 days to do so?
Not sure on the hate. HPD was very helpful for my ccw permit. 99% of the police are probably just trying to help. Don't politicize everything.
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Some pro 2a states take about 90-120 days to process a CCW app. I know NV has it in their law of 120 days. But all the other states don't have permits to acquire. So HPD and HI shows their hand by requiring a PTA. So in 14 days I can buy a belt fed rifle, but cannot CCW a tiny handgun in the same time period.
This is why it's such a big deal here that HPD is taking more than 2 weeks to process any CCW.
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Cannot help but think it is political. In my opinion it is. But this is on our leaders like the governor, mayor, and police chief.
The police rank and file are just trying to do their job as best as they can. Their hands are tied due to their senior leaders.
Their job is service orientated. However, it is still restricted to the parameters of our bullsh*t political leaders.
Who knows why it takes close to 90 days (or more?) to process these CCW's. I'd bet there are procedures deliberately put in place to keep the process as slow as possible.
Yes, whether we like it or not, the police chief is a political figure. Again, I'd bet that you don't get that position unless you explain very clearly your stance on the 2nd amendment to the State of Hawaii Police Commission.
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Cannot help but think it is political. In my opinion it is. But this is on our leaders like the governor, mayor, and police chief.
The police rank and file are just trying to do their job as best as they can. Their hands are tied due to their senior leaders.
Their job is service orientated. However, it is still restricted to the parameters of our bullsh*t political leaders.
Who knows why it takes close to 90 days (or more?) to process these CCW's. I'd bet there are procedures deliberately put in place to keep the process as slow as possible.
Yes, whether we like it or not, the police chief is a political figure. Again, I'd bet that you don't get that position unless you explain very clearly your stance on the 2nd amendment to the State of Hawaii Police Commission.
What's political is the polarized issue of the Second Amendment. In many states, even though the rank and file police officers proclaim support for the right to keep and bear arms, they also know that more guns owned by the general public -- law abiding or not -- increases the risk to their lives when making contact with the public.
The chiefs of police in most places are political appointees -- not elected. Their support of 2A is therefore inline with their boss' more often than not.
It's scary that so many people are hell-bent of giving away everyone's right to self defense. if we ever lose the right completely, it'll take a civil war to regain it.
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Cannot help but think it is political. In my opinion it is. But this is on our leaders like the governor, mayor, and police chief.
The police rank and file are just trying to do their job as best as they can. Their hands are tied due to their senior leaders.
Their job is service orientated. However, it is still restricted to the parameters of our bullsh*t political leaders.
Who knows why it takes close to 90 days (or more?) to process these CCW's. I'd bet there are procedures deliberately put in place to keep the process as slow as possible.
Yes, whether we like it or not, the police chief is a political figure. Again, I'd bet that you don't get that position unless you explain very clearly your stance on the 2nd amendment to the State of Hawaii Police Commission.
We have learned over the years that most of HPD will not stand up for your right. "I'm just doing my job". Like Nazi's did in WW2 where the law made it legal to do Nazi stuff. This is the excuse they use to justify their actions. Or "I'm not the one who brings charges" after they turn into evidence a pistol mag that holds >10rds.
People spoke up about this and we learned during COVID shut downs how HPD 'just doing their job". News reported only once that 96% of COVID citations were thrown out in court. Then add in the rally I was at where I saw HPD blocking the road and sidewalk so protestors could not get to their destination. Only to be told 15 mins later that they cannot do that and someone in command stopped the blockade.
I don't say all HPD. Because I witnessed a gathering that was against COVID rules and a cop showed up. He said someone called, but he cannot issue a citation due to it violating the constitution. So he hung out for a few mins then left. Only to come back an hour later cause the person called again. He again, hung out then left.
Another incident was when someone was carrying a rifle case and was stopped by HPD cause someone called them. They mentioned "to and from law", but at no time searched or detained the rifle case carrier. So they responded because they had to, but never violated the 4th amendment (search and seizure). But did mention "to and from", which means they would have probably enforced this one had they had proof a firearm was in the rifle case and proof where the individual was going to.
So imagine if most of the boots on the ground HPD stated they won't enforce an unconstitutional law. Command would have no choice but to follow. Or fire everyone.
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We have learned over the years that most of HPD will not stand up for your right. "I'm just doing my job".
It's statistics, same with the public, legislators, and any other topic. There are a few hardworking people at both extremes, more that are familiar with the subject, but vast majority don't know and/or don't care.
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mahalo HPD and our great senators for keeping us safe from gun violence and vetted, qualifed, licensed individuals.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/03/21/publics-help-sought-locating-3-suspect-wanted-attempted-murder-robbery/
Mar. 20, 2023 at 11:20 PM HST
"Honolulu police are asking for the public’s help"
The incident happened March 5 about 3:30 p.m."
When minutes count.....
You want my help to apprehend armed criminals ?
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Yep. Help us (HPD) but when WE need help by arming ourselves........
Crickets...............
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What's political is the polarized issue of the Second Amendment. In many states, even though the rank and file police officers proclaim support for the right to keep and bear arms, they also know that more guns owned by the general public -- law abiding or not -- increases the risk to their lives when making contact with the public.
The chiefs of police in most places are political appointees -- not elected. Their support of 2A is therefore inline with their boss' more often than not.
It's scary that so many people are hell-bent of giving away everyone's right to self defense. if we ever lose the right completely, it'll take a civil war to regain it.
... except one side's "got the F-15's and the Nukes."
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Perhaps it is time to become a criminal?
:shaka:
Been carrying in this banana republik for the better part of 10 years….not all the time but a considerable amount it…..
I don’t need these fuckers permission, the 2A gives me all the permission I need! :wave:
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Mar. 20, 2023 at 11:20 PM HST
"Honolulu police are asking for the public’s help"
The incident happened March 5 about 3:30 p.m."
When minutes count.....
You want my help to apprehend armed criminals who shoot at their victims but in a public park but I cannot arm myself in a public park against armed criminals ? :wacko:
Get off your lazy dead ass HPD. :grrr:
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... except one side's "got the F-15's and the Nukes."
Won't help them because they won't use it in a civil war.
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Won't help them because they won't use it in a civil war.
They will use them, just not on you and me.
:shaka:
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... except one side's "got the F-15's and the Nukes."
Mr “Pecker face” thought he could make Ukraine “submit” to his “mighty forces”. Seems like he misjudged them.and his forces aren’t as mighty as he thought they were! ;)
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I dont mean to be a negative Nancy
when I went last week to apply for PTA, there is 1 cop who knows me by name and is very nice and helpful, friendly. Local guy, looks like part Hawaiian. he is very pleasant to deal with.
most down there are good people.
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I usually dig the guys and gals at the windows and have gotten plenty help from them.
Both permitting and registration.
But last time I registered,I had two older, kinda overweight haole guys.
Kinda assholeish.
Had the redacted prior owners registration which I presented. They confiscated it. Said they could see through the black out if they held to the light.
I said no. I gave you the document. They gave me back a copy.
No big deal but just exerting power they don’t have.
Most of them are cool though.
Crap shoot as to who’s getting disciplined I guess. Stuck at the window.
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But last time I registered,I had two older, kinda overweight haole guys.
Kinda assholeish.
No need be Politically Correct.
You had two old fat asshole haole guys.
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No need be Politically Correct.
You had two old fat asshole haole guys.
Waycist!
:wacko:
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I usually dig the guys and gals at the windows and have gotten plenty help from them.
Both permitting and registration.
But last time I registered,I had two older, kinda overweight haole guys.
Kinda assholeish.
Had the redacted prior owners registration which I presented. They confiscated it. Said they could see through the black out if they held to the light.
I said no. I gave you the document. They gave me back a copy.
No big deal but just exerting power they don’t have.
Most of them are cool though.
Crap shoot as to who’s getting disciplined I guess. Stuck at the window.
I know exactly who you are talking about
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No need be Politically Correct.
You had two old fat asshole haole guys.
I'm pretty sure I have had the pleasure of interacting with one of these "ahem" gentlemen. He seems like those insecure cops who love the power trip. If I looked like him I would feel insecure also. His attitude sucked big time.
He was not only fat, sad to say he was morbidly OBESE. Seriously. If I was his supervisor I would keep him in the firearms division and not let him out on patrol in the field. Ever.
This guy looks like he couldn't run 10 ft. In an altercation he probably would have his gun, taser, and god knows what else taken from him.
When we had to line up early in the am to apply for PTA, he would come out of the building every 15 minutes for a smoke break. Fine example of an officer trim and fit to do the job.
Honolulu's Finest? I think not.
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body shamers
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Forgot to add. Kinda Funny/Messed Up though.
So the one, can’t really tell ‘em apart, not too in shape fair complexion Officer.
He’s flagging me the whole time while reading the serial. I’m bobbing and weaving hoping they’ll notice.
Nope.
Then I tell I hope the window is bulletproof cause you’re flagging me.
Fat bastahd says “Oh, it is.”
:wacko:
Brah. Realized staring down the barrel of a rifle, even though you personally cleared it, is an uncomfortable feeling. Even from behind bullet proof glass.
But used to be good fun with ofcr. Del Prado ( big bald Portagee looking guy), the older Filipino and the young short Japanee guy.
Real relaxed.
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But used to be good fun with ofcr. Del Prado ( big bald Portagee looking guy), the older Filipino and the young short Japanee guy.
Real relaxed.
Mick, yep . . . super cool. I asked him if I should start putting gray instead of black for hair color. He said something like "Why the hell you asking me, lucky you still got hair."