2aHawaii
General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: changemyoil66 on March 28, 2023, 02:04:03 PM
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It's been about 9 months since the SCOTUS ruling.
We have seen some success like:
HI's CCW issuance
CA Handgun roster (I'm sure CA will appeal to the most anti 2a circuit. The 9th circuit has never made a favorable 2a ruling)
Certain CA counties CCW issuance (San Jose is taking like a year to do their interview, but prior to Bruen it wouldn't matter and denials were issued).
SCOTUS warning NY judges to rule correctly
IL assault weapons ban (injunction issued, still has to go to trial) There were like 12 pages of plaintiffs.
IL state asked judge for more time for their sensitive places lawsuit and judge said no
And we have seen an anti 2a judge sort of still not abide. I'm sure there are are a few more, but I can't remember off the top of my head.
DE assault weapons and "high cap" mag (injunction denied, still has to go to trial). This is the most recent as of yesterday. Judge accepted the states argument that since the Bowie knife was banned in 29 states, "assault rifles" can be banned as well. And the AWB ban doesn't take away the 2a right since handguns can still be owned. Also assault pistol injunction denied because the plaintiff failed to state how many assault pistols are in common use.
Also for the mags, judge used the logic that the interest of public safety outweighs the mags, even though this violates what SCOTUS said to use when making a ruling.
Most of the above still will have hearings or additional hearings due to appeal. Then add in NJ, NY, CA counties sensitive places laws and soon to be HI law will make their way up the court ladder.
HI's attitude about Bruen is F-U, sue us. They are re-doing the handgun class requirement to purchase, which has nothing to do with CCW. HI is sending a message.
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HI's attitude about Bruen is F-U, sue us. They are re-doing the handgun class requirement to purchase, which has nothing to do with CCW. HI is sending a message.
As long as they leave the Hunter's Ed course as a valid option, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. The people hurt most by those changes would be the NRA course instructors in terms of revenue.
if this had anything to do with firearm safety and proficiency, they would have added live fire training in the Hunter's Ed requirements.
I agree those changes target the firearm dealers, trainers and customers in an attempt to make it more expensive and more difficult to be certified. If they also tack on an expiration for training to force retaking the course, it'll get to be seriously onerous.
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As long as they leave the Hunter's Ed course as a valid option, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. The people hurt most by those changes would be the NRA course instructors in terms of revenue.
if this had anything to do with firearm safety and proficiency, they would have added live fire training in the Hunter's Ed requirements.
I agree those changes target the firearm dealers, trainers and customers in an attempt to make it more expensive and more difficult to be certified. If they also tack on an expiration for training to force retaking the course, it'll get to be seriously onerous.
Hunters ed no longer valid and no grandfather clause.
Buy ur guns b4 july 1st.
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Hunters ed no longer valid and no grandfather clause.
Buy ur guns b4 july 1st.
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I'm thinking ammo also. Little by little. I have a feeling it's coming.
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I'm thinking ammo also. Little by little. I have a feeling it's coming.
For this year, ammo is not required to have a permit or background check done. But they do try every other year or so.
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For this year, ammo is not required to have a permit or background check done. But they do try every other year or so.
Yeah, that's what I think they will push for next. I plan to buy a little here and there........
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Oh yes. They WILL take care of you, alright. Buuuuwaaahahahahaha......(evil laugh) :rofl:
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Hunters ed no longer valid and no grandfather clause.
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Where does it say HE is no longer accepted?
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Where does it say HE is no longer accepted?
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=49459.msg448985.msg#448985
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Hmmmm interesting. From what I’ve read HE ok for long guns not pistols. Sure is bullshit! I don’t plan on buying/selling anymore guns in this shit hole.. Over the past 6 months I’ve shipped 17 firearms to my brother who holds an FFL. Only got six guns left here and at some point in time they’ll be shipped back to America as well. Ain’t gonna tell HPD shit either and told the missus when I croak to tell the pigs to fuck off, his guns aren’t here in this banana republik anymore but in a free state in America. ;)
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Hmmmm interesting. From what I’ve read HE ok for long guns not pistols. Sure is bullshit! I don’t plan on buying/selling anymore guns in this shit hole.. Over the past 6 months I’ve shipped 17 firearms to my brother who holds an FFL. Only got six guns left here and at some point in time they’ll be shipped back to America as well. Ain’t gonna tell HPD shit either and told the missus when I croak to tell the pigs to fuck off, his guns aren’t here in this banana republik anymore but in a free state in America. ;)
There is a law that if the guns "permanently" leave the state, you gotta let HPD know. But hey, you might come back in 50 years, so that's not "premament".
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There is a law that if the guns "permanently" leave the state, you gotta let HPD know. But hey, you might come back in 50 years, so that's not "premament".
Yup exactly….I know there’s a so called “law” but there’s nothing that sez I have to obey it. Nothings permanent, rite! :wave:
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Hmmmm interesting. From what I’ve read HE ok for long guns not pistols. Sure is bullshit! I don’t plan on buying/selling anymore guns in this shit hole.. Over the past 6 months I’ve shipped 17 firearms to my brother who holds an FFL. Only got six guns left here and at some point in time they’ll be shipped back to America as well. Ain’t gonna tell HPD shit either and told the missus when I croak to tell the pigs to fuck off, his guns aren’t here in this banana republik anymore but in a free state in America. ;)
Unless something changed, we don't need any training documents at all for long guns transfers -- only needed for handguns.
So, hunter's ed is irrelevant for long gun transfers. Only when applying for a handgun permit is the training affidavit or certificate required.
In fact, if you bring out-of-state handguns you own into the state, there's no training requirement. No permit to acquire = no need for training document.
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Unless something changed, we don't need any training documents at all for long guns transfers -- only needed for handguns.
So, hunter's ed is irrelevant for long gun transfers. Only when applying for a handgun permit is the training affidavit or certificate required.
In fact, if you bring out-of-state handguns you own into the state, there's no training requirement. No permit to acquire = no need for training document.
"In fact, if you bring out-of-state handguns you own into the state, there's no training requirement. No permit to acquire = no need for training document."
Y'all figured it out!
I have family with permanet physical addresses in WA state and FLA.
Easy to get a Legal address in those states so I can buy guns.
Honolulu can go fuk itself.
As for CCW license, Hawaii is going to have to do more court time to overide the Democrats
obstructions.
You should not need a license for something that is a right.
:wtf:
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"In fact, if you bring out-of-state handguns you own into the state, there's no training requirement. No permit to acquire = no need for training document."
Y'all figured it out!
I have family with permanet physical addresses in WA state and FLA.
Easy to get a Legal address in those states so I can buy guns.
Honolulu can go fuk itself.
As for CCW license, Hawaii is going to have to do more court time to overide the Democrats
obstructions.
You should not need a license for something that is a right.
:wtf:
Why didn't you tell us sooner?
Geesh!
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Unless something changed, we don't need any training documents at all for long guns transfers -- only needed for handguns.
So, hunter's ed is irrelevant for long gun transfers. Only when applying for a handgun permit is the training affidavit or certificate required.
In fact, if you bring out-of-state handguns you own into the state, there's no training requirement. No permit to acquire = no need for training document.
If HB984 passes, u will need a class every 4 years to buy a rifle/shotgun. And HE is acceptable for this.
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