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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: rhayder on April 12, 2023, 11:09:14 AM

Title: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: rhayder on April 12, 2023, 11:09:14 AM
They lied. They continue try to cover-up.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-12/fox-news-faces-probe-over-withholding-evidence-in-dominion-case?srnd=all&leadSource=uverify%20wall (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-12/fox-news-faces-probe-over-withholding-evidence-in-dominion-case?srnd=all&leadSource=uverify%20wall)

Fox News Faces Investigation Over Withholding Evidence in Dominion Case
Judge wants to know if he was misled about document handover

Fox News faces an investigation into whether it wrongly withheld evidence from Dominion Voting Systems ahead of a defamation trial over 2020 election-conspiracy theories propounded by the network’s hosts and guests.

A Delaware judge said Wednesday he’d appoint a court official to determine whether Fox misled him about Rupert Murdoch’s role at the network and whether documents and recordings were properly turned over to Dominion.

Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: macsak on April 12, 2023, 11:41:16 AM
cool story,bro...

They lied. They continue try to cover-up.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-12/fox-news-faces-probe-over-withholding-evidence-in-dominion-case?srnd=all&leadSource=uverify%20wall (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-12/fox-news-faces-probe-over-withholding-evidence-in-dominion-case?srnd=all&leadSource=uverify%20wall)

Fox News Faces Investigation Over Withholding Evidence in Dominion Case
Judge wants to know if he was misled about document handover

Fox News faces an investigation into whether it wrongly withheld evidence from Dominion Voting Systems ahead of a defamation trial over 2020 election-conspiracy theories propounded by the network’s hosts and guests.

A Delaware judge said Wednesday he’d appoint a court official to determine whether Fox misled him about Rupert Murdoch’s role at the network and whether documents and recordings were properly turned over to Dominion.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: DocMercy on April 18, 2023, 02:48:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Az1ub52JoA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Az1ub52JoA)

Lawsuit was settled before trial this morning. I was hoping to see a novel defense on the use of editorial opinion as a 1st amendment defense. Fox News is at least 50% entertainment.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 21, 2023, 10:27:08 PM
They lied. They continue try to cover-up.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-12/fox-news-faces-probe-over-withholding-evidence-in-dominion-case?srnd=all&leadSource=uverify%20wall (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-12/fox-news-faces-probe-over-withholding-evidence-in-dominion-case?srnd=all&leadSource=uverify%20wall)

Fox News Faces Investigation Over Withholding Evidence in Dominion Case
Judge wants to know if he was misled about document handover

Fox News faces an investigation into whether it wrongly withheld evidence from Dominion Voting Systems ahead of a defamation trial over 2020 election-conspiracy theories propounded by the network’s hosts and guests.

A Delaware judge said Wednesday he’d appoint a court official to determine whether Fox misled him about Rupert Murdoch’s role at the network and whether documents and recordings were properly turned over to Dominion.

Why do you jump from an announcement of an investigation to instantly concluding they lied and are covering it up? You obviously aren't looking at this objectively with a statement like that.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 22, 2023, 08:11:20 AM
Why do you jump from an announcement of an investigation to instantly concluding they lied and are covering it up? You obviously aren't looking at this objectively with a statement like that.
U need to read more of xis post.

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Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 22, 2023, 11:31:47 PM
U need to read more of xis post.

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Meh, I always try to start out a conversation on a clean slate, give him the chance to answer
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 23, 2023, 08:19:15 AM
Meh, I always try to start out a conversation on a clean slate, give him the chance to answer
I restate, do u read xis post?

When confronted with facts, xhe doesnt answer or states non related stuff like "so u agree" or a link that doesnt back up xis statement.

Its like asking for someones drivers license and instead they give u a napkin.

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Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 23, 2023, 09:21:34 PM
I restate, do u read xis post?

When confronted with facts, xhe doesnt answer or states non related stuff like "so u agree" or a link that doesnt back up xis statement.

Its like asking for someones drivers license and instead they give u a napkin.

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I am not holding my breath but I still make a good faith effort.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 23, 2023, 09:39:25 PM
I am not holding my breath but I still make a good faith effort.

So, you don't mind arguing with a brick wall, because you honestly believe there's a chance ...?
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2023, 11:25:17 AM
So, you don't mind arguing with a brick wall, because you honestly believe there's a chance ...?

Enter Lloyd and Mary Samsonite meme.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 24, 2023, 10:35:20 PM
So, you don't mind arguing with a brick wall, because you honestly believe there's a chance ...?

I wouldn't paint it so negatively but I guess the analogy fits, yes.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 24, 2023, 11:12:07 PM
Well turns out they were guilty.  Keep on ignoring the evidence in plain sight.

Wrong. They settled to avoid paying more in legal costs and to put the issue to bed -- keeps it from hanging over them indefinitely.

The allegations were not proven in court.

The settlement does not include any admission from Fox News of any wrongdoing.

Also, the amount Fox is actually out of pocket will be much, much less than the settlement amount.

Realistically, the settlement won't affect their bottomline at all.  Shareholders are still making money, future stock buy-backs are proceeding as planned, and so on.

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How much the lawsuit will actually end up costing Fox is unclear because there are ways
it can defray some of the expense, primarily through insurance and the use of tax deductions.

Fox can deduct the Dominion settlement from its income taxes as an expense necessary for
the cost of doing business. Fox Chief Communications Officer Brian Nick has confirmed the
deductibility of the settlement.
https://apnews.com/article/fox-dominion-lawsuit-settlement-election-6a729ece4b4f351a6334be13b49d4869

Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 25, 2023, 12:21:12 AM
Fox News is just as useless as the rest of the corporate media
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 25, 2023, 02:21:17 AM
Fox News is just as useless as the rest of the corporate media

Except they trigger the Liberal Snowflakes to no end!

 :geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 25, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
Except they trigger the Liberal Snowflakes to no end!

 :geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:

Anyone who acknowledges objective reality triggers those people. That's not a very high bar.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 25, 2023, 07:10:20 AM
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Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: robtmc on April 25, 2023, 07:17:25 AM
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Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 25, 2023, 07:26:01 AM
The only reason companies buy back stock is because there are no future opportunities available that would generate a return higher than the cost of capital. It's a return to investors. They were forced to admit they lied. They were not required to broadcast that fact on their network.

Somehow you managed to string together 3 irrelevant thoughts in a way that cancelled out all coherency.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 25, 2023, 07:27:20 AM
This is a shell game. They move money around with the courts and then launder it back in through the stock market and other means. It's all theater designed to squash dissent, because when Ukraine falls the dollar will crash and then it's over for the DC establishment.



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Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: macsak on April 25, 2023, 07:51:45 AM
BlackRock is an index fund manager. They manage the assets of others and their strategy is to buy the entire market indexes. They sell their strategies to institutions that bring them investors.

index funds don't really need managers or strategies
that's why they are called indexes, because they track indexes
no one would buy strategies if they were going to follow indices
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 25, 2023, 08:16:21 AM
Wrong. They settled to avoid paying more in legal costs and to put the issue to bed -- keeps it from hanging over them indefinitely.

The allegations were not proven in court.

The settlement does not include any admission from Fox News of any wrongdoing.

Also, the amount Fox is actually out of pocket will be much, much less than the settlement amount.

Realistically, the settlement won't affect their bottomline at all.  Shareholders are still making money, future stock buy-backs are proceeding as planned, and so on.
https://apnews.com/article/fox-dominion-lawsuit-settlement-election-6a729ece4b4f351a6334be13b49d4869

It's funny how your reply is in the election fraud thread that xhe was told to read in full.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 25, 2023, 02:59:57 PM
The only reason companies buy back stock is because there are no future opportunities available that would generate a return higher than the cost of capital. It's a return to investors. They were forced to admit they lied. They were not required to broadcast that fact on their network.

You

are

delusional.


I would say ignorant, but you actually think you know what you're talking about.

Shares of stock purchased by investors are categorized as DEBT.  The more shares on the market, the more the price per share is diluted (value per share is less).

Buybacks are normally a sign the company is flush with cash -- and in Fox's case, they have about $4 Billion in reserves.

The buyback will divest them of cash on hand (which they pay taxes on) as well as have a positive effect on the market price per share -- sometimes a huge effect.  This helps the investors who decide to retain their shares. 

The less debt a publicly traded company carries, the more growth potential they have.  They can invest their cash to acquire other companies, buy or lease new office space and studios, etc.  They are also in a better position to leverage new debt if an opportunity arises (like buying CNN after their stock price bottoms out).

Buy backs almost always signal the company is doing better than they projected.

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The main reason companies buy back their own stock is to create value for their
shareholders. In this case, value means a rising share price.

Here’s how it works: Whenever there’s demand for a company’s shares, the price
of the stock rises. When a company buys its own shares, it’s helping to increase
the price for its stock by boosting demand, thereby creating value for all shareholders.

One of corporate America’s highest goals is to maximize shareholder value. According
to this principle, a company should always aim to generate the highest possible returns
for its investors. Increasing the value of its stock and returning cash to holders—in the
form of dividends and share buybacks—is how companies maximize value for shareholders.
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/stock-buyback/

Get a life.   :crazy:
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: ren on April 25, 2023, 05:13:06 PM
"Certified"  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: robtmc on April 26, 2023, 06:51:45 PM
"Certified"  :rofl: :rofl:
Y'all do realize these liberal trolls that continue to trash 2Ahwaii are ultimately masochists that love being beaten?

Then go back to their wimpy fellow travelers on facef*ck to  explain how those mean old conservatives would not agree with them.

Years ago, King Keoni, Surf, Inspector and others made this a fun place to discuss firearms and our right to possess them.

Seems there is absolutely no sire owner interest is retaining the original character/intent of the forum.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 26, 2023, 07:53:08 PM
Y'all do realize these liberal trolls that continue to trash 2Ahwaii are ultimately masochists that love being beaten?

Then go back to their wimpy fellow travelers on facef*ck to  explain how those mean old conservatives would not agree with them.

Years ago, King Keoni, Surf, Inspector and others made this a fun place to discuss firearms and our right to possess them.

Seems there is absolutely no sire owner interest is retaining the original character/intent of the forum.

There's a lot of troll farms out there. Most likely Xi gets paid to be obnoxious in an attempt to incite violent talk so they can round us up when it's convenient.

So far so good avoiding those traps my dudes. Keep up the good work.

https://www.dailyveracity.com/2022/08/15/exclusive-massive-democrat-bot-farms-revealed-influencing-elections-war-and-racial-tension-51343790000-social-media-impressions-sinse-2019-theyre-gearing-up-for-novembe/

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Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 26, 2023, 08:12:35 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FukDmYrWcAEaTcB?format=jpg&name=medium)

BlackRock has no ownership stake in Dominion Voting Systems
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-blackrock-dominion-fox-046024958724
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: eyeeatingfish on April 26, 2023, 08:15:21 PM
The only reason companies buy back stock is because there are no future opportunities available that would generate a return higher than the cost of capital. It's a return to investors. They were forced to admit they lied. They were not required to broadcast that fact on their network.

 That is false. There are other reasons a company would buy back it's stock, such as going private.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: hvybarrels on April 26, 2023, 08:24:00 PM
BlackRock has no ownership stake in Dominion Voting Systems
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-blackrock-dominion-fox-046024958724

You're correct. It's Dominion energy which is still a different company.

On the other hand Black Rock just heavily invested in Fox and is directly involved in many of the horrible things that the mainstream media will no longer cover now that Tucker is out.
Title: Re: Fox News / Murdoch Investigation for withholding Evidence.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 26, 2023, 08:42:27 PM
That is false. There are other reasons a company would buy back it's stock, such as going private.

That's much less common than a private company going public. 

But, you got it right -- their statement is false.

Xhe should look into the history of massive companies that have done stock buybacks and splits.


(https://i.imgur.com/YO2KbXQ.png)


Obviously, none of those companies have any growth opportunities for investors to benefit from.   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: