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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: rhayder on April 18, 2023, 08:26:08 AM

Title: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: rhayder on April 18, 2023, 08:26:08 AM
So if people just didn't break laws they wouldn't have to worry? I guess it's her own fault she got her self shot according to the group consensus?



A man in upstate New York was charged with murder on Monday in the killing of a woman who was in a car that mistakenly drove into his driveway, officials said.

The woman and the three friends she was with never got out of the car on Saturday night, Jeffrey J. Murphy, the Washington County sheriff, said at a news conference. They were turning around after realizing their error when the man, Kevin Monahan, 65, stepped out of his house, in Hebron, N.Y., and fired at least two shots at the car, the sheriff said.

One of the bullets struck the woman, Kaylin Gillis, 20, and the group drove about six miles to a nearby town before they got through to 911, Sheriff Murphy said. Emergency services workers responded and performed lifesaving measures on Ms. Gillis, but she was pronounced dead, the sheriff said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/17/nyregion/man-charged-kaylin-gillis-driveway-shooting.html

Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2023, 08:55:57 AM
What law did she break?  Try again. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

InB4 "sHE tReSPasSed".  And of course xhe wouldn't understand how this works.

And xhe posted a link no one without a membership could read as well. 

Trying so hard and still failing. Hahahahahahahahha
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: hvybarrels on April 18, 2023, 09:01:44 AM
Every tragedy is just an excuse to undermine personal freedom and consolidate more power for the state. How cynical.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 18, 2023, 09:05:42 AM
So if people just didn't break laws they wouldn't have to worry? I guess it's her own fault she got her self shot according to the group consensus?



A man in upstate New York was charged with murder on Monday in the killing of a woman who was in a car that mistakenly drove into his driveway, officials said.

The woman and the three friends she was with never got out of the car on Saturday night, Jeffrey J. Murphy, the Washington County sheriff, said at a news conference. They were turning around after realizing their error when the man, Kevin Monahan, 65, stepped out of his house, in Hebron, N.Y., and fired at least two shots at the car, the sheriff said.

One of the bullets struck the woman, Kaylin Gills, 20, and the group drove about six miles to a nearby town before they got through to 911, Sheriff Murphy said. Emergency services workers responded and performed lifesaving measures on Ms. Gillis, but she was pronounced dead, the sheriff said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/17/nyregion/man-charged-kaylin-gillis-driveway-shooting.html

"Another illegal?"   :wtf: are you raving about?


There may be more to the story.  I doubt New York sources will be 100% forthcoming with the facts.

Why are you even on this forum?  This is a pro-2A group.  You seem to be firmly against anyone who uses a firearm for protection no matter what, gleefully making stupid comments like, "So if people just didn't break laws they wouldn't have to worry? I guess it's her own fault she got her self shot according to the group consensus?"  You never wait for all the facts as long as you can spin the story to support your hatred for the members here.

You're the poster child for what trolls look like.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: oldfart on April 18, 2023, 09:11:29 AM
Another illegal shot in NY

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if she was "illegal" then she shouldn't be in the country in the first place
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Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
Trespassing Bro .. she was on his property and he shot her.

Read what I posted. Try again.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2023, 11:23:57 AM
What tragedy. I thought y'all were okay with shooting trespassers? Does that rule only apply in AZ?

"assumptions is the mother of all fuck ups" Under Siege 2:Dark Territory
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2023, 11:30:48 AM
If you really care about your 2A rights then you will address these problems or you will lose your 2A rights. I value my 2A rights but I am willing to support training and regulations to keep citizens safe as well. Your way is likely not the right way.

So no reply to the other statements, instead makes a vague one. Like "So on the topic of having an affair, by asking me this means you must not support the troops. Support the troops please". The Campaign.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2023, 11:32:04 AM
If you really care about your 2A rights then you will address these problems or you will lose your 2A rights. I value my 2A rights but I am willing to support training and regulations to keep citizens safe as well. Your way is likely not the right way.

So what regulation would u support that could have prevented this or the AZ incident?
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 18, 2023, 12:49:14 PM
If you really care about your 2A rights then you will address these problems or you will lose your 2A rights. I value my 2A rights but I am willing to support training and regulations to keep citizens safe as well. Your way is likely not the right way.

Please state what the problem in this incident is and how you expect us to "address" it.

Murder is against the law.  Shooting someone who poses no threat is against the law.  What "regulations" would have prevented this other than confiscation?

As for training, nobody can truly prepare for the time they might need to be armed.  How you react under stress is difficult to predict, as is the type of physical and emotional response to a potentially lethal threat.

What you lack in facts about this case you more than overcompensate for in anti-2A talking points.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 18, 2023, 12:53:53 PM
What tragedy. I thought y'all were okay with shooting trespassers? Does that rule only apply in AZ?

How does this in any way correlate to the AZ case?

Oh, yeah.  Someone used a gun.  Bad person.  Bad person.

Why don't you wait at least until we hear the homeowner's side of what happened and why he fired before you start lecturing.  For all you know, he was 100% justified, and the DA is just following NY protocol by charging anyone who dares defend themselves with a firearm with murder.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2023, 01:07:28 PM
How does this in any way correlate to the AZ case?

Oh, yeah.  Someone used a gun.  Bad person.  Bad person.

Why don't you wait at least until we hear the homeowner's side of what happened and why he fired before you start lecturing.  For all you know, he was 100% justified, and the DA is just following NY protocol by charging anyone who dares defend themselves with a firearm with murder.

It would also help if the link xhe posted was readable.  But then again, it wouldn't matter as almost all the links xhe post doesn't help xis argument.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: ren on April 18, 2023, 01:39:27 PM
xhe has been rallying for anti2a efforts for awhile now
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 18, 2023, 01:45:38 PM
Xhe doesn’t post in any other sub forum.  Clearly here to disrupt and subvert and spew misinformation and hate.  Look at his username.

It says it all.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2023, 02:03:19 PM
Xhe doesn’t post in any other sub forum.  Clearly here to disrupt and subvert and spew misinformation and hate.  Look at his username.

It says it all.

Which is why normally, I wouldn't respond. But to any new forum readers, if no one challenges and proves xhe is wrong, then they will assume that xis though process is right and everyone agrees. Esp when there's back to back threads on TDS related stuff.
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: mrgaf on April 18, 2023, 02:05:43 PM
Another illegal shot?
Good! Keep taking the trash out :thumbsup:

Xshe should be taken out to the dump as well…..
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: drck1000 on April 18, 2023, 03:05:24 PM
Which is why normally, I wouldn't respond. But to any new forum readers, if no one challenges and proves xhe is wrong, then they will assume that xis though process is right and everyone agrees. Esp when there's back to back threads on TDS related stuff.
DNFTT. . . end of story.  Will get it's jollies off somewhere else. . .nitwit
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: macsak on April 18, 2023, 03:12:03 PM
DNFTT. . . end of story.  Will get it's jollies off somewhere else. . .nitwit

cool story, bro...
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: robtmc on April 18, 2023, 05:58:34 PM
xhe has been rallying for anti2a efforts for awhile now
Weird millennial chick just like omnihomo is just here to spread hate.
Then run back to it's facef*ck or instafag support group to tell of the nerve-wracking experience.

The 2A site owners are weird that they allow this strange creature to disrupt, but maybe they share it's agenda?
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: macsak on April 18, 2023, 06:59:30 PM
Weird millennial chick just like omnihomo is just here to spread hate.
Then run back to it's facef*ck or instafag support group to tell of the nerve-wracking experience.

The 2A site owners are weird that they allow this strange creature to disrupt, but maybe they share it's agenda?

maybe?
isn't it obvious?
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: oldfart on April 19, 2023, 01:33:28 AM
Weird millennial chick just like omnihomo is just here to spread hate.
Then run back to it's facef*ck or instafag support group to tell of the nerve-wracking experience.

The 2A site owners are weird that they allow this strange creature to disrupt, but maybe they share it's agenda?
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Life would be boring without an antagonist

 ‘keep your friends close, and enemies closer’
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: robtmc on April 19, 2023, 05:06:07 PM
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Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: robtmc on April 19, 2023, 05:11:25 PM
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Life would be boring without an antagonist

Is that sort of like life without hemorrhoids?
Or STDs?
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: groveler on April 19, 2023, 05:26:02 PM
Have the rancher prove that he understands that owning a weapon does not give him the right to shoot trespassers. That's not the Christian thing to do.
As a Christian. libertarian, and  anarchist
I don't think you'd know Christianity if it jumped up and bit you in the butt.
Full disclosure; I did 1.5 hours today bible study with guys via zoom.
1 Samuel 30.
Lots of killing and they didn't use guns.
Jews.
My great grandfather and grandmother were Jews
so I can say that.
Y'all have to remember Christ was a JEW!
 :thumbsup:


 
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 19, 2023, 06:02:20 PM
Have the rancher prove that he understands that owning a weapon does not give him the right to shoot trespassers. That's not the Christian thing to do.

How does proving you know something prevent you from doing the opposite?

Christians do not live lives that are void of sin, even though they know better.

Furthermore, what if the rancher happens to be a practicing Muslim?  Are you saying we should force Christian beliefs on him?
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 19, 2023, 10:16:57 PM
Have the rancher prove that he understands that owning a weapon does not give him the right to shoot trespassers. That's not the Christian thing to do.
What proof will be sufficent to u? Oh, i know. Feelings is sufficient.


Someone needs to read why we have the constitution...that damn section about separation of....

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Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: oldfart on April 20, 2023, 01:18:26 AM
Is that sort of like life without hemorrhoids?
Or STDs?
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is that sort of like life without hayderrhoids?

FIFY
Title: Re: Another illegal shot in NY
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 21, 2023, 09:37:50 AM
So the guys grandson was interview and stated that his grandpa is racist and watches fox new. Also in his Twitter profile (the grandson) he has BLM, tranny, abolish the police, satan, etc...