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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: MrJones on May 13, 2023, 09:11:50 PM
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Went to range today with son. Had a guy with a strong accent come and start telling us if we could shoot 1 handed. He kept telling me that me and my son should shoot 1 handed. He was there with 2 other guys. Kept asking me if that was a 357. He then proceeded to ask me if he could shoot it with his own ammo. I decided to leave.
He then asked if he could hold it. Not wanting to be rude I agreed. I don’t know why he kept pushing my son should try 1 handed. Seems like he wanted to prove something. If he reloads then why would he need to shoot someone else’s gun. The revolver is a common ruger. Weird.
Jones
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I didn't catch that his ammo were reloads when he asked to use your gun with his ammo. After you mentioned reloading, it's even better that you left.
I'd never use someone else's hand-loads in my gun, much less a stranger's.
You have no idea if it's extra- or double-charged, and the results could be a damaged firearm, serious injury and death. Even if the components are properly measured, if he's using reloaded cases, it could have a defect and cause damage.
I'd have told him that's a rule I have. Reloads carry a risk, and I'm not willing to accept that risk unless I personally reloaded the rounds. That goes double if i don't know the person at all.
My other rule is to never let someone i don't know shoot my firearms. So, even if he offers to pay you to use your factory loaded ammo, it's still trusting a stranger with your firearm and with no clue whether he's a safe and knowledgeable shooter.
I won't know what experience level he is, and handing him something he's never shot before would be my fault if anything happened.
I wouldn't worry about being rude at the range. When something goes wrong there it can be super-serious.
I have to wonder about someone who even asks a stranger to shoot their revolver without being invited first.
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Strange indeed.
I wouldn't let someone I don't know shoot their ammo in my gun.
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Should have asked the RSO if they know the guy and if not to keep and eye on him.
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Gotta watchout for suicides too. People could go to the range, ask if they can shoot a gun, then kill themselves. Look for warning signs. If they're shooting their own gun at the range then it wouldn't be the case.
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I’m kinda mad at myself for not being more direct but I didn’t want to seem unfriendly. He also said my son could do push-ups .They were wearing bright shirts and leather pants, definitely not from here.
Jones
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I’m kinda mad at myself for not being more direct but I didn’t want to seem unfriendly. He also said my son could do push-ups .They were wearing bright shirts and leather pants, definitely not from here.
Jones
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This story is just bizarre.
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Gotta watchout for suicides too. People could go to the range, ask if they can shoot a gun, then kill themselves. Look for warning signs. If they're shooting their own gun at the range then it wouldn't be the case.
There was a news report of a woman at a range rented a gun for her and her son. At some point she turned the gun on her son and killed him. Then she took her own life. It was all caught on the security camera.
A central Florida woman who fatally shot her son then killed herself at a shooting range
wrote in suicide notes to her boyfriend that she was trying to save her son.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna30109090
Apparently, Florida is the place where people use rented guns to off themselves.
Officials identify man, woman shot at Holly Hill gun range as part of 'suicide pact' On Friday, officials released more information on a "suicide pact" shooting that killed a
woman and injured a man.
Holly Hill police identified the couple as 21-year-old Ayadilis Chalas and 23-year-old Alec
Matthew Almanzar. Police say they lived together in Ormond Beach.
Police say the couple went to the Hot Shot shooting range around 5 p.m. and rented a
9mm pistol.
https://www.wesh.com/article/holly-hill-gun-range-suicide-pact/37912531
Like i said, I won't hand my gun to a complete stranger who walks up and asks.
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I don't let strangers shoot my firearms
And I never ask to shoot a strangers firearm
There are occasions that I will let a stranger shoot my firearms, like the 2A revolver day, or a friend of a friend.
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I mentioned this earlier here but when I took the handgun safety course the instructor shared a story of when he was working at KHSC.
This quiet guy was just watching others shoot. Then he asked someone if he could see and handle his firearm. Not sure how precisely the story went from here but the guy ended up killing himself. Not sure if he loaded the firearm himself or it was already loaded.
Suicide.
You don't want that sh*t on your plate. Best not to lend or let handle your firearm to strangers.
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I am sure we all have stories of strange people at the range
I remember a while back on the silly side, 2 guys shooting, 1 guy obviously not an experienced shooter, wearing the full on tactical clothing and gear. He even wore a tactical vest. Reminded me of Paul Blart mall cop
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Sorry to hear this guy and his friends ruined your range day for you and your son. It seems he was trying to start something and testing your patience, especially with the comment about your son to do pushups. Pretty scary situation with loaded guns everywhere. Any other behavior besides courteous and friendly at a public shooting range, I myself would be extremely bothered and worried especially if I had my kids there with me. I think you made the right decision in not being more direct and being polite and then leaving because who knows what might have happens if you told him off as he may have been on the edge about somthing. Just not worth being in a fight or possible shootout.
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I am sure we all have stories of strange people at the range
I remember a while back on the silly side, 2 guys shooting, 1 guy obviously not an experienced shooter, wearing the full on tactical clothing and gear. He even wore a tactical vest. Reminded me of Paul Blart mall cop
Tactical gear on a person that looks like Paul Blart Mall Cop is strange indeed. I mean, you gotta ask "Why??!!"
Work on the spare tire first before attempting to go tactical. :rofl: I say this from someone who had 2 spare tires, lol!!
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There was a news report of a woman at a range rented a gun for her and her son. At some point she turned the gun on her son and killed him. Then she took her own life. It was all caught on the security camera.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna30109090
Apparently, Florida is the place where people use rented guns to off themselves.
Officials identify man, woman shot at Holly Hill gun range as part of 'suicide pact' https://www.wesh.com/article/holly-hill-gun-range-suicide-pact/37912531
Like i said, I won't hand my gun to a complete stranger who walks up and asks.
Happens often in waikiki ranged with strictly jap tourist. Precovid, jap tour suicides in wakiki are like 1 a day from various methods.
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I was chatting to a guy on FB, someone I never met before. Said he was in the military and wanted to be a firearms instructor and start his own business. We take a local training class together.
On training day, we link up. He's all kitted out, the only one. Ballistic helmet, ballistic face shield (the one inch think kind), goggles, tactical vest, plates, side plates, gloves, everything else. I look at him and I'm thinking should I tell him. For all I know maybe he can run 10 miles in that stuff. So I just tell him maybe you should start out light, get used to the training first. He says he was in the military and he trains with that stuff, he can handle.
Hour later heat casualty. Not to mention muzzle discipline issues. He may have had some mental disabilities.
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Anybody who would dress like that guarantee mental.
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I am sure we all have stories of strange people at the range
I remember a while back on the silly side, 2 guys shooting, 1 guy obviously not an experienced shooter, wearing the full on tactical clothing and gear. He even wore a tactical vest. Reminded me of Paul Blart mall cop
I remember a guy at the silly side with loose movements wearing a plate carrier and taking selfies in between shots…lol
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I am sure we all have stories of strange people at the range
I remember a while back on the silly side, 2 guys shooting, 1 guy obviously not an experienced shooter, wearing the full on tactical clothing and gear. He even wore a tactical vest. Reminded me of Paul Blart mall cop
I train as I fight. You guys can make fun of me all you want.
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I train as I fight. You guys can make fun of me all you want.
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Sulsa Do Corp
That's why!
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I dress up on a cowboy outfit and shoot vintage 3 gun. 😆
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My own rule of thumb is that I usually don't let anyone I don't know handle my firearms. The exceptions would be if it's a friend of a friend. Like both people are there, not a name drop. And when this happens, I also examine their demeanor prior to. Safety is numero uno and as the owner of the firearm, I am responsible for the actions of others that I let use it.
IMO, this guy was overly aggressive and I would not let him handle my firearms.
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Went to range today with son. Had a guy with a strong accent come and start telling us if we could shoot 1 handed. He kept telling me that me and my son should shoot 1 handed. He was there with 2 other guys. Kept asking me if that was a 357. He then proceeded to ask me if he could shoot it with his own ammo. I decided to leave.
He then asked if he could hold it. Not wanting to be rude I agreed. I don’t know why he kept pushing my son should try 1 handed. Seems like he wanted to prove something. If he reloads then why would he need to shoot someone else’s gun. The revolver is a common ruger. Weird.
Jones
Learned the hard way a long time ago, not to trust reloads from a stranger. Other people can reload for you but you should know their practices and methods before you fire off one of their rounds at all, let alone in your own gun. I mean, factory ammo is essentially ammo reloaded by a stranger, but that stranger is sort of vetted through millions of people shooting their ammo. This dude, no one knows…. And a stranger coming up to you asking if they can shoot your gun is just awkward. You asking if they would like to try is different than someone pushing the issue.
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We’re currently in the middle of a national mental meltdown and your circle of trust should contract accordingly
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Learned the hard way a long time ago, not to trust reloads from a stranger. Other people can reload for you but you should know their practices and methods before you fire off one of their rounds at all, let alone in your own gun. I mean, factory ammo is essentially ammo reloaded by a stranger, but that stranger is sort of vetted through millions of people shooting their ammo. This dude, no one knows…. And a stranger coming up to you asking if they can shoot your gun is just awkward. You asking if they would like to try is different than someone pushing the issue.
Yep. i'd never ask to shoot someone's firearm unless we either knew each other or he invited me.
Plus, factory ammo is tested, production has quality controls, and the company has a liability risk they work to mitigate through proper manufacturing processes and training.
That other guy probably watched a YouTube video and bought his reloading equipment secondhand.
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Yep. i'd never ask to shoot someone's firearm unless we either knew each other or he invited me.
What if it's a she? lol
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What if it's a she? lol
Then that would go double, especially if she's there alone.
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What if it's a she? lol
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How do you know if it's a she?
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I went each Saturday so far to shoot rifle and last week pistol, I'll keep my eye out for these leather pants people lol. Just curious, do you know anyone with ccw have thier ccw on them at the range? Isn't kokohead the only city park not considered a sensitive place?
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We’re currently in the middle of a national mental meltdown and your circle of trust should contract accordingly
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+1
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Few years ago, a group of teens came down from the Ewa side of the range. They appeared to come from the beach and were checking the activities on the rifle and pistol ranges. Another reason to be cognizant of people and never leave your firearms unattended.
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Few years ago, a group of teens came down from the Ewa side of the range. They appeared to come from the beach and were checking the activities on the rifle and pistol ranges. Another reason to be cognizant of people and never leave your firearms unattended.
Good point. many have reported firearms stolen at the range.
Someone engaging you out of the blue could just be trying to distract you from the guy standing near your range bags ...
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How do you know if it's a she?
No can nowadays, even if "she" shows you her belot.
But then "she" might have an oten. Either way run away.
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Few years ago, a group of teens came down from the Ewa side of the range. They appeared to come from the beach and were checking the activities on the rifle and pistol ranges. Another reason to be cognizant of people and never leave your firearms unattended.
I didn't know there were loonies hanging out at the range. Do you guys always go with a friend? Kinda hard not to leave firearms unattended if going alone, no?
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If leaving to go bathroom and alone can ask RSO working to keep eye on item.
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I think this recent strange behavior is somewhat unsettling.
What is scary is a lot of newbie firearm owners at the range might think nothing of this kind of behavior.
Maybe the RSO's have to be trained in more than just range management. They gotta be able to spot and deal with potential dangers.
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Good point. many have reported firearms stolen at the range.
Someone engaging you out of the blue could just be trying to distract you from the guy standing near your range bags ...
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I've been shooting at KHSC for about 44 years. i've never heard of firearms being stolen at the range.
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If leaving to go bathroom and alone can ask RSO working to keep eye on item.
When at the rifle or pistol side, I take my firearms with me to the restroom. The RO's will watch if asked, but their attention isn't 100% on your firearms due to them having to watch the line.
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That's what adult diapers are for.
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I've been shooting at KHSC for about 44 years. i've never heard of firearms being stolen at the range.
I’ve heard of someone’s pistol being stolen on the bullseye side during a ceasefire. The person came from the far end and snagged a gun off the bench. The design of the pistol side creates a somewhat blind spot on the far end. The RSO can’t watch everywhere at once.
I’ve always tried to stay close to the center for this reason.
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I've been shooting at KHSC for about 44 years. i've never heard of firearms being stolen at the range.
Kokohead Range - AR-15 stolen
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=3472.20
I recently heard that on Sat, 05/19, an AR-15 was stolen off the shooting bench while the line
was cold and shooters were checking their targets. There were no witnesses, not even the
RSO's, and a report was filed with HPD.
Did anyone here hear about this incident?
I asked around to some of the guys that are here almost everyday and no one heard anything
but most agreed that they did not doubt that it happened or could happen.
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If it did happen you would think hpd would be called to range to file report.
Firearms have been found at end of day as owners forgot. Hpd called and firearms turned in.
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If it did happen you would think hpd would be called to range to file report.
Firearms have been found at end of day as owners forgot. Hpd called and firearms turned in.
I'm not saying it did or didn't happen.
I'm just making sure OF can't claim he's never heard about it now! :rofl: :shaka: :geekdanc:
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Sorry was not replying to your comment
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Sorry was not replying to your comment
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#Ghosted
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I'm not saying it did or didn't happen.
I'm just making sure OF can't claim he's never heard about it now! :rofl: :shaka: :geekdanc:
Problem with America (World?) today…….I heard……( probably saw it the interweb)
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Problem with America (World?) today…….I heard……( probably saw it the interweb)
97% of the info on the web is fucking bullshit anyway…. :shaka:
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97% of the info on the web is fucking bullshit anyway…. :shaka:
I read that .... on the Internet.
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strangest is the one guy who open carried a few years ago. next were the cosplay shooters weraing tac helmets with radios in them.
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97% of the info on the web is fucking bullshit anyway…. :shaka:
And 98.7% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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And 98.7% of statistics are made up on the spot.
And 100% of the spin makers are brain dead…. :shaka: