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Governor signs laws banning guns in ‘sensitive’ places, requiring active shooter drills in schools https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/02/governor-sign-2-new-firearms-measures-into-law/
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Ilima Decosta's daughter according to the article was killed by a gun. (Not a person with a gun the article states her daughter was killed by a gun. :rofl:)
Angelica Mercado is some kind of director of Domestic Violence.
A question to these two women:
What makes you think a law that bans guns in these so called sensitive places will deter criminals who do not obey or follow laws from entering these places and killing people?
Some written law signed by a part time governor is gonna scare them away? :rofl:
Oh. Wait a minute. I see now. According to the article, it is the gun that is killing people, not the person.
It is only a matter of time before these two women see the fallacy of their thinking. Whether they realize it is something only they will truly know in their heart.
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The veteran, chris marvin said he explained to his 11 year old daughter the importance of his work.
I hope she learns about the constitution and realizes her dad helped screw over people and enable rapist, active shooters, kidnappers, etc...
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Stabbing in Waianae.
Coming soon, ban on pointy sticks in sensitive places.
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Hawaii's quest to reduce gun crimes and violence met with opposition
https://www.kitv.com/news/hawaiis-quest-to-reduce-gun-crimes-and-violence-met-with-opposition/article_b717eace-01e5-11ee-9911-1f22573bb2f2.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/hawaiis-quest-to-reduce-gun-crimes-and-violence-met-with-opposition/article_b717eace-01e5-11ee-9911-1f22573bb2f2.html)
With decades of experience as an ER doctor, Green says gun violence is a public health crisis and action needs to be taken to address it.
"What you're going to see today is us moving from the state with the second lowest rate of gun violence in the country and we hope to stay with the lowest rate of gun violence in the country," said Green. "Back on the mainland I was one of the physicians that took care of individuals who were victims of gun violence. I lost a loved one to a suicide with a gun, so anything we could do, we should do."
Chris Marvin with 'Everytown for Gun Safety' told KITV4, "I think the legislature and the Governor have done a great job of making Hawaii safer, in the face of the Supreme Court telling us that we had to issue concealed carry weapons permits."
Republican Representative Diamond Garcia said, "I did not support the Senate Bill 1230 which simply restricts people's constitutional right to carry firearms to protect themselves and their family."
Hawaii Firearms Coalition Director Andrew Namiki Roberts said the Hawaii Firearms Coalition will file a lawsuit when the law goes into effect this summer.
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I see Gov. Green’s armed bodyguards pick him up from his condo often. Will his bodyguards also not carry in sensitive places when with him? Ah, yes. They’re above the laws that they create.
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https://www.khon2.com/news/national/ap-us-news/hawaii-allows-more-concealed-carry-after-supreme-court-ruling-but-tightly-limits-where-guns-allowed/ (https://www.khon2.com/news/national/ap-us-news/hawaii-allows-more-concealed-carry-after-supreme-court-ruling-but-tightly-limits-where-guns-allowed/)
Hawaii Gov. Josh Green on Friday signed legislation that will allow more people to carry concealed firearms.... :rofl: :rofl: ??? ::) :crazy: :crazy:
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I see Gov. Green’s armed bodyguards pick him up from his condo often. Will his bodyguards also not carry in sensitive places when with him? Ah, yes. They’re above the laws that they create.
The governor and other political asshats like him feel that their lives are more important than the lives of the constituents they have sworn to protect.
If they really believe that laws are enough to deter the criminal element and that law enforcement agencies are adequate enough to protect and respond to every constituent that needs protection because they cannot protect themselves due to these ridiculous laws, then they themselves should abolish their private protection details.
Will they do it? Of course not. They are all in the same camp: "Do as I say, not as I do."
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Fucking pecker head….
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I see Gov. Green’s armed bodyguards pick him up from his condo often. Will his bodyguards also not carry in sensitive places when with him? Ah, yes. They’re above the laws that they create.
With his stupid anti gun stance he’ll need em! :rofl:
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Waste money
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Waste money
And air!
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Green needs a kick in his sensitive place
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Green needs a kick in his sensitive place
Agree, because the way he's been governing it seems someone already gave him a swift kick to the head.
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One can be mad at him but Hawaii chose him. This what we get. I didnt vote for him. And like many other terrible career politicians, they keep getting re elected to fOffice. We do it to ourselves as a state. We have low voter turnout and many don’t educate themselves on the candidates but rather vote on name recognition.
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One can be mad at him but Hawaii chose him. This what we get. I didnt vote for him. And like many other terrible career politicians, they keep getting re elected to fOffice. We do it to ourselves as a state. We have low voter turnout and many don’t educate themselves on the candidates but rather vote on name recognition.
funny that we strive to "buy local" "Keep Hawaii Hawaii" KeepDa Country Country" then when we had a choice to vote for a local we vote for someone from Pennsylvania. ::)
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It's amazing what makes the already low voter turnout vote for a particular person.
Looks, ethnicity, local/non-local, union recommendations, whether there is a D or an R or anything else next to the name. However, having a D next to your name will do wonders for your electability in Hawaii, even if the voter(s) can't remember who you are or what you stand for. Sad.
In the case of Green he had a D next to his name, along with voters who take the ainokea attitude and a union environment whose voters vote lockstep with who the union endorses. These union members don't realize their negotiated high wages are going to higher taxes, higher cost of living, and into the pockets of their union officials.
Hardly anyone ever votes on the issues on hand and how the candidates (if ever) will address it.
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#immarealdoctor!
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One can be mad at him but Hawaii chose him. This what we get. I didnt vote for him. And like many other terrible career politicians, they keep getting re elected to fOffice. We do it to ourselves as a state. We have low voter turnout and many don’t educate themselves on the candidates but rather vote on name recognition.
Hawaii did not choose him, Democrat party
and Democrat dominated unions did.
I was a member of the longshoreman union ILWU for a while.
I worked in the same facility as the local union district representative
and gained a lot of inside knowledge about the union.
A run of the mill dock worker makes well over $120,000
per year before overtime and various other fringe benefits.
Democrat political leaders will give them what ever they want
so who do they vote for?
All government unions are the same way.
As the Federal government just demonstrated, budget buster RINOs aren't any better
so why vote for them?
Solution
Don't obey the law.
Keep a lawyer on speed dial.
Strike against the government
wherever possible, in ways that don't
physically hurt anybody.
There is a thousand cheap ways to jamb the
system up so much it will fail.
For example on the BI there are two economic
systems; one cash based and the other The more traditional
pay your tax and obey the government system.
I always pay cash if I get a price break.
I'm sure that cash is not reported as income.
If I want a gun I don't ask permission, I go get it,
I have a legal residence in WA state.
If it is safe, I drive above the speed limit.
I pay my income tax once per year.
These are all civil infractions against the corrupt government
Nobody is physically assaulted.
Y'all think about this next time you beg HPD for permission to buy or
carry a gun, the system makes a mistake, and you are
ordered to surrender all your registered guns.
:wave:
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Hawaii did not choose him, Democrat party
and Democrat dominated unions did.
I was a member of the longshoreman union ILWU for a while.
I worked in the same facility as the local union district representative
and gained a lot of inside knowledge about the union.
A run of the mill dock worker makes well over $120,000
per year before overtime and various other fringe benefits.
Democrat political leaders will give them what ever they want
so who do they vote for?
All government unions are the same way.
As the Federal government just demonstrated, budget buster RINOs aren't any better
so why vote for them?
Solution
Don't obey the law.
Keep a lawyer on speed dial.
Strike against the government
wherever possible, in ways that don't
physically hurt anybody.
There is a thousand cheap ways to jamb the
system up so much it will fail.
For example on the BI there are two economic
systems; one cash based and the other The more traditional
pay your tax and obey the government system.
I always pay cash if I get a price break.
I'm sure that cash is not reported as income.
If I want a gun I don't ask permission, I go get it,
I have a legal residence in WA state.
If it is safe, I drive above the speed limit.
I pay my income tax once per year.
These are all civil infractions against the corrupt government
Nobody is physically assaulted.
Y'all think about this next time you beg HPD for permission to buy or
carry a gun, the system makes a mistake, and you are
ordered to surrender all your registered guns.
:wave:
it is so nice to live on Green Acres....
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it is so nice to live on Green Acres....
nice and green thanks to all the steer manure
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it is so nice to live on Green Acres....
Not sure if that is insult, but being a good Christian man, I'll take it as a complement.
I'm not a fan of cities. I took on significant monetary challenges to be independent
from government and have land and a "Hobby farm" as it were.
Do not get me wrong, I get social security. I have a Tbill coming to maturity next week, and part of my pension
is invested in Tbonds.
But I don't pay for a useless rail system that will never Break even, be it in Honolulu or California.
I don't pay for useless intermittent solar, wind, and the firebombs( present technology LIthum batteries)
they need to make them somewhat useful.
I listen to opera when I please, lock the gates when I please.
And have guns as I please. No permits required.
Call that green acres as you want.
Anytime you submit to any authority, outside a military
or religious environment,( both are voluntary BTW)
you are an idiot. In my book.
Aloha
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/)
Survivor and Legislative Lead for the Hawaii Chapter of Mom’s Demand Action Ilima DeCosta joined HNN’s Sunrise Weekends to talk about the group’s Wear Orange campaign, which started 10 years ago after a fatal shooting of a 15 year old girl in Chicago.
Each year, advocates call for stronger gun laws through demonstrations and policy work.
Advocates cite these statistics in Hawaii: 67% of gun deaths are suicides and 22% are homicides. This is compared to 61% and 36% respectively, nationwide.
The rate of gun deaths in Hawaii increased 21% from 2009 to 2018, compared to an 18% increase over this same time period nationwide.
The presence of a firearm in domestic violence situations increases the risk of homicide for women by 500%. More than half of women killed by gun violence are killed by family members or intimate partners.
Over the ten-year period between 2008 and 2017, intimate partner homicides of women involving guns increased by 15 percent.
With a rate of 3.4 deaths per 100,000 people, Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths and the third strongest set of gun safety laws.
WHo ever wrote this article is dumb. They are trying to make an argument that there is a high rate of "gun-related" deaths but in their closing sentence stated that HI has the lowest rates of gun deaths.
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/)
Survivor and Legislative Lead for the Hawaii Chapter of Mom’s Demand Action Ilima DeCosta joined HNN’s Sunrise Weekends to talk about the group’s Wear Orange campaign, which started 10 years ago after a fatal shooting of a 15 year old girl in Chicago.
Each year, advocates call for stronger gun laws through demonstrations and policy work.
Advocates cite these statistics in Hawaii: 67% of gun deaths are suicides and 22% are homicides. This is compared to 61% and 36% respectively, nationwide.
The rate of gun deaths in Hawaii increased 21% from 2009 to 2018, compared to an 18% increase over this same time period nationwide.
The presence of a firearm in domestic violence situations increases the risk of homicide for women by 500%. More than half of women killed by gun violence are killed by family members or intimate partners.
Over the ten-year period between 2008 and 2017, intimate partner homicides of women involving guns increased by 15 percent.
With a rate of 3.4 deaths per 100,000 people, Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths and the third strongest set of gun safety laws.
WHo ever wrote this article is dumb. They are trying to make an argument that there is a high rate of "gun-related" deaths but in their closing sentence stated that HI has the lowest rates of gun deaths.
"but in their closing sentence stated that HI has the lowest rates of gun deaths."
That is because we don't have many African Americans here.
Not because of our gun laws!
Which we mostly ignore!
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"but in their closing sentence stated that HI has the lowest rates of gun deaths."
That is because we don't have many African Americans here.
Not because of our gun laws!
Which we mostly ignore!
waycist!
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waycist!
Facts and data.
Data will set you free!
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Advocates cite these statistics in Hawaii: 67% of gun deaths are suicides and 22% are homicides. This is compared to 61% and 36% respectively, nationwide.
With a rate of 3.4 deaths per 100,000 people, Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths and the third strongest set of gun safety laws.[/i]
WHo ever wrote this article is dumb. They are trying to make an argument that there is a high rate of "gun-related" deaths but in their closing sentence stated that HI has the lowest rates of gun deaths.
In 2020 Hawaii had 22% (7.89) homicides via firearm out of 19
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Gov Green is a POS. He’s not well liked in the medical community for being an A-hole. He tried to get a flight crew in trouble because he thought they over flew Kona Airport. Of course he knows nothing about aviation.A Hole.
Jones
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/)
Survivor and Legislative Lead for the Hawaii Chapter of Mom’s Demand Action Ilima DeCosta joined HNN’s Sunrise Weekends to talk about the group’s Wear Orange campaign, which started 10 years ago after a fatal shooting of a 15 year old girl in Chicago.
Each year, advocates call for stronger gun laws through demonstrations and policy work.
Advocates cite these statistics in Hawaii: 67% of gun deaths are suicides and 22% are homicides. This is compared to 61% and 36% respectively, nationwide.
The rate of gun deaths in Hawaii increased 21% from 2009 to 2018, compared to an 18% increase over this same time period nationwide.
The presence of a firearm in domestic violence situations increases the risk of homicide for women by 500%. More than half of women killed by gun violence are killed by family members or intimate partners.
Over the ten-year period between 2008 and 2017, intimate partner homicides of women involving guns increased by 15 percent.
With a rate of 3.4 deaths per 100,000 people, Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths and the third strongest set of gun safety laws.
WHo ever wrote this article is dumb. They are trying to make an argument that there is a high rate of "gun-related" deaths but in their closing sentence stated that HI has the lowest rates of gun deaths.
Dismissing the author of the article as dumb is a mistake. They intentionally manipulated, crafted, and presented the data to suit their agenda. They are not dumb, they are smart.
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Gov Green is a POS. He’s not well liked in the medical community for being an A-hole. He tried to get a flight crew in trouble because he thought they over flew Kona Airport. Of course he knows nothing about aviation.A Hole.
Jones
Mrs. CMO talked to the shuttle driver when Green was on Big Island and had covid. He looked like shit, but was still traveling and working. I mean, maybe he tested neg so he thought he was fine to work.
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Dismissing the author of the article as dumb is a mistake. They intentionally manipulated, crafted, and presented the data to suit their agenda. They are not dumb, they are smart.
I think the point is these people believe the lies and manipulations they push. That's makes them ignorant and gullible at best -- evil at worst.
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I think the point is these people believe the lies and manipulations they push. That's makes them ignorant and gullible at best -- evil at worst.
Everyone should watch the hearings and see 1st hand. Even the AG's office does this, which I mentioned in each bills posting in the legal section. Bacially:
AG asked if they can defend a lawsuit and said yes (left out successfully defend).
AG asked to name the history and tradition as required by Bruen and AG said "what you're asking me to do is to litigate this bill".
AG asked in another hearing about Bruen and they said "Bruen is so new that no one knows how the courts will decide"
AG then states during this PC that they worked with Bruen in mind to make this "bulletproof". Wait how did they do that when they were asked multiple times about Bruen and the reply was IDK.
Same with C&C corporate counsel. Augie asked them for history and tradition of each sensitive place and he was told "we will talk later in executive session". Fast forward to the next hearing and Augie stated no one got back to him about it.
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Everyone should watch the hearings and see 1st hand. Even the AG's office does this, which I mentioned in each bills posting in the legal section. Bacially:
AG asked if they can defend a lawsuit and said yes (left out successfully defend).
AG asked to name the history and tradition as required by Bruen and AG said "what you're asking me to do is to litigate this bill".
AG asked in another hearing about Bruen and they said "Bruen is so new that no one knows how the courts will decide"
AG then states during this PC that they worked with Bruen in mind to make this "bulletproof". Wait how did they do that when they were asked multiple times about Bruen and the reply was IDK.
Same with C&C corporate counsel. Augie asked them for history and tradition of each sensitive place and he was told "we will talk later in executive session". Fast forward to the next hearing and Augie stated no one got back to him about it.
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/04/remembering-gun-violence-victims-hawaii/)
Survivor and Legislative Lead for the Hawaii Chapter of Mom’s Demand Action Ilima DeCosta joined HNN’s Sunrise Weekends to talk about the group’s Wear Orange campaign, which started 10 years ago after a fatal shooting of a 15 year old girl in Chicago.
Each year, advocates call for stronger gun laws through demonstrations and policy work.
Advocates cite these statistics in Hawaii: 67% of gun deaths are suicides and 22% are homicides. This is compared to 61% and 36% respectively, nationwide.
The rate of gun deaths in Hawaii increased 21% from 2009 to 2018, compared to an 18% increase over this same time period nationwide.
The presence of a firearm in domestic violence situations increases the risk of homicide for women by 500%. More than half of women killed by gun violence are killed by family members or intimate partners.
Over the ten-year period between 2008 and 2017, intimate partner homicides of women involving guns increased by 15 percent.
With a rate of 3.4 deaths per 100,000 people, Hawaii has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths and the third strongest set of gun safety laws.
WHo ever wrote this article is dumb. They are trying to make an argument that there is a high rate of "gun-related" deaths but in their closing sentence stated that HI has the lowest rates of gun deaths.
This sounds like the same type of BS statistics used to proclaim that the greatest number of violence against women incidents occurrs on Super Bowl Sunday. I would not be surprised if the same leftist think tank generated this crap.
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He think he bad now!
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I think it is a shame that we have a medical doctor as a Governor or what ever and we have a shortage of medical personnel. According to media our ERs and first responders are overwhelmed. It is also very concerning that this Gov / Dr chooses death over life i.e. euthanasia and abortions. He is not genuinely concerned about the welfare or safety of us (unless there is a camera around) he is more concerned about appeasing the special interests that elevated him to this position of leadership. He is certainly not about empowering the citizens of Hawaii.
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where?
Windward side(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230703/13bc445574f660cdf69af17b4e4ef87c.jpg)
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Windward City
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the whole shopping center?
or just one store?
Windward City
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Coin Shop?
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Yes sir!
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