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Title: New Law
Post by: MrJones on August 11, 2023, 06:20:16 AM
Bought ammo a few days ago and was asked to sign my name and signature. Worker said it was a new law.

Jones
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: randay on August 11, 2023, 06:34:21 AM
what store was this?
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: MrJones on August 11, 2023, 06:54:13 AM
OGC
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: zippz on August 11, 2023, 07:17:34 AM
May have to do with the firearms industry liability law.

Probably says you're not going to use it in a crime.

Not going to make a difference.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: ren on August 11, 2023, 07:19:50 AM
OGC

The new sales people give off a weird vibe. Went there last year and I don't think I'm going back.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: MrJones on August 11, 2023, 07:26:27 AM
Agree, cub scout honor.😁
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: randay on August 11, 2023, 08:35:44 AM
I dont think there is a law that specifically states names and signatures for ammo purchases. so the question is, what happens if you refuse?
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: QUIETShooter on August 11, 2023, 08:37:02 AM
Bought ammo a few days ago and was asked to sign my name and signature. Worker said it was a new law.

Jones

WTF? 

Title: Re: New Law
Post by: QUIETShooter on August 11, 2023, 08:39:39 AM
I dont think there is a law that specifically states names and signatures for ammo purchases. so the question is, what happens if you refuse?

I would.  I'd go somewhere else to see if this is a legit thing.  And I'd tell them exactly that.  I haven't heard of something like this.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: zippz on August 11, 2023, 08:42:33 AM
There's no new law requiring names and signatures.

It's their own policy.  Likely an attempt to remove liability from the store.due to the new laws.

I told the stores if hb426 passed, the stores would have to implement their own gun control policies to avoid liability from it.  OGC did not testify, get involved in opposing it, or respond.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: hvybarrels on August 11, 2023, 09:06:58 AM
It was cool when it was just Carter in that little hole in the wall, but over the past few years the creep factor has gone through the roof.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: zippz on August 11, 2023, 09:14:23 AM
It was cool when it was just Carter in that little hole in the wall, but over the past few years the creep factor has gone through the roof.

OGC was cool when it was small.  But it's been going downhill ever since.  Can't blame him too much as OGC was supposed to be a gun range but failed.  It's just a store without any community ties or 2a involvement.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: changemyoil66 on August 11, 2023, 10:13:05 AM
#1 I wouldn't sign anything. It's not like they have a monopoly on stuff. So shop else where.

#2 They don't do anything to support the cause (that I know of), and even posted on here years ago why.  I mean, his excuse makes some sense, but enough is enough.

#3 I went there once and when the owner had to take a piss, he had all the staff leave the show room and wait outside while he used the restroom.  I mean, maybe he was burned prior by an employee stealing while he was in the can. But I've never seen any stores here or in Vegas do this. This gave me a very bad vibe.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 11, 2023, 11:04:52 AM
#1 I wouldn't sign anything. It's not like they have a monopoly on stuff. So shop else where.

#2 They don't do anything to support the cause (that I know of), and even posted on here years ago why.  I mean, his excuse makes some sense, but enough is enough.

#3 I went there once and when the owner had to take a piss, he had all the staff leave the show room and wait outside while he used the restroom.  I mean, maybe he was burned prior by an employee stealing while he was in the can. But I've never seen any stores here or in Vegas do this. This gave me a very bad vibe.

"#3 ... owner had to take a piss ..."

Should that not be #1?     :geekdanc:

At this point, it's just water under the bridge ...   :rofl:

As for making the employees walk outside, isn't that one reason for installing cameras -- employee misbehavior?  Cameras also assist in liability issues, worker's comp claims, shoplifting, customer disputes, etc.

I guess his solution was the quickest, easiest and least expensive.

Title: Re: New Law
Post by: wirecounter on August 11, 2023, 01:04:28 PM
WTF?

WTF indeed!!
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 11, 2023, 01:19:27 PM
I have no problem signing my name.

I hope there aren't many other Aaron Wards on island.

 :thumbsup:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790724/trivia/
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: Rocky on August 11, 2023, 04:17:37 PM
I have no problem signing my name.

 :thumbsup:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790724/trivia/
I'd have no problem signing your name either.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: eyeeatingfish on August 12, 2023, 01:05:38 AM
There's no new law requiring names and signatures.

It's their own policy.  Likely an attempt to remove liability from the store.due to the new laws.

I told the stores if hb426 passed, the stores would have to implement their own gun control policies to avoid liability from it.  OGC did not testify, get involved in opposing it, or respond.

OGC seems to be in their own world. They don't come to the gun show, they don't get involved with the legislative side, etc.
I like their store but the owner doesn't have the best people skills.

That is an odd thing for him to ask people to do.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: rpoL98 on August 13, 2023, 08:58:24 PM
I have no problem signing my name.

I hope there aren't many other Aaron Wards on island.

 :thumbsup:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790724/trivia/
are you taking after Jack Reacher, what was it, 3rd base man from 1950's, or something like that.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 13, 2023, 09:15:18 PM
are you taking after Jack Reacher, what was it, 3rd base man from 1950's, or something like that.

I guess I should have left a clue.

Oh, wait!  I did!   :geekdanc:

Quote
Reacher introduced himself as Aaron Ward, and it's obvious that Cash
recognizes the name of the 1925 Yankees' second baseman. Cash
pauses and says the name to confirm.

Cash says, "Play ball!" after Reacher is allowed his practice shot, so now
the real shooting can take place. That reference to baseball is a tip-off to
Reacher that his cover has been blown, even before he takes his excellent
shots to reveal who he is.
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: West740 on August 13, 2023, 09:38:56 PM
I stopped supporting this shop right when Covid hit. Was in there shopping for an ar a week before lockdown when shelves were pretty bare. A local mom came in and asked if they sold pepper spray, to which the owner said no and that the only place he knew that sold it was sports authority which no longer existed. She said thanks and turned to leave when another customer stopped her and told her that another gun shop nearby carry’s pepper spray. Lady thanks him and leaves. Owner then tells other customer “what the hell do you think you’re doing sending her to my competitors?” Ever since then have not spent a cent in there
Title: Re: New Law
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 13, 2023, 11:22:48 PM
I stopped supporting this shop right when Covid hit. Was in there shopping for an ar a week before lockdown when shelves were pretty bare. A local mom came in and asked if they sold pepper spray, to which the owner said no and that the only place he knew that sold it was sports authority which no longer existed. She said thanks and turned to leave when another customer stopped her and told her that another gun shop nearby carry’s pepper spray. Lady thanks him and leaves. Owner then tells other customer “what the hell do you think you’re doing sending her to my competitors?” Ever since then have not spent a cent in there

Competitor?  Not stocking something another gun shop does makes them a spectator.