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General Topics => Health, Fitness, and First Aid => Topic started by: zippz on October 05, 2023, 07:32:37 PM
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I just placed an online order for a couple of doses of Narcan to treat fentanyl overdose. It's free, mailed to you, and you could save a life. It's easy to get fentanyl poisoning by breathing it in or touching your eyes, nose, or mouth with traces of it. Especially handy for first responders and those that deal with the homeless and drug users.
https://www.hhhrc.org/naloxone
Videos of fentanyl overdose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gA61UowVHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFr41zHKmcU
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I got mine.
I gave one to a friend who is a social worker down Waianae side.
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already posted earlier...
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If it's chronics then that's just Darwin's theory at work, but as the cop video shows too many people get exposed by accident.
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Breathing ...
If can, can.
If no can, NARCAN.
:geekdanc: :thumbsup:
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If it's chronics then that's just Darwin's theory at work, but as the cop video shows too many people get exposed by accident.
Too many people or too many first responders?
Are there stats on regular people ODing? As in not cause someone in the home is a user, at a club and took a laced substance, but like at a walmart and grabbed a box of cereal that had fent on it, at a restaurant and touched a fork with fent on it, etc...
What im getting at is theres drugs in the home, then the non user knows about it, which is why theyre ordering narcan. And if this is the situtation, then its on them for allowing drug use where innocents are present.
Vids of people ODing on the street, screw them. 1 less drug user.
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Too many people or too many first responders?
Are there stats on regular people ODing? As in not cause someone in the home is a user, at a club and took a laced substance, but like at a walmart and grabbed a box of cereal that had fent on it, at a restaurant and touched a fork with fent on it, etc...
What im getting at is theres drugs in the home, then the non user knows about it, which is why theyre ordering narcan. And if this is the situtation, then its on them for allowing drug use where innocents are present.
Vids of people ODing on the street, screw them. 1 less drug user.
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there's a bit of exaggeration from the media there....
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how about just say NO
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There's no better way to advocate for a group causing their own demise than to preach how innocent people outside the group are also dying from the same thing.
The same tactic was used with AIDS. Before prominent people of society came out as HIV positive, it was a disease that only impacted gays, Haitians and intravenous drug users who shared needles.
So, how did people outside that group get infected? Mostly by getting blood transfusions from a blood supply that was infected by people from that original group.
Research and treatment was stepped up when people who did nothing "wrong" contracted it.
I see the same parallel here. Most don't care if people illegally using a drug kill themselves. Their body, their life, their choice.
But, as soon as someone who did nothing wrong gets impacted, it becomes a priority to save their lives.
Same question as with AIDS: how did the innocents get exposed? That drug would not be as prolific today were it not for the users.
But, since people who did nothing wrong are affected, we now need NARCAN to save their lives.
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Too many people or too many first responders?
Are there stats on regular people ODing?
I don't know the stats, but I'm sure it happens depending on interactions with or near drug users. I deal with the homeless a lot so I'm very concerned. HPD has a big problem with their officers getting hit with fentanyl.
I don't know if the public is getting hit, but I'd imagine it can easily happen. Store clerks and people walking in bad areas. Maybe you see a good Samaritan doing CPR on a homeless guy and getting OD.
It takes very little fentanyl to OD. Just breathing in some blown off someone's clothes can mess you up.
(https://rivcoda.org/sites/g/files/aldnop286/files/styles/coh_large/public/migrated/Portals-0-EasyGalleryImages-3060-ssthumbs3-Thumbs-Fentanyl-IG.jpg)
(https://d1l18ops95qbzp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/2023/07/31140624/Drug-Deaths-HIDTA-Years.png)
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I don't know the stats, but I'm sure it happens depending on interactions with or near drug users. I deal with the homeless a lot so I'm very concerned. HPD has a big problem with their officers getting hit with fentanyl.
I don't know if the public is getting hit, but I'd imagine it can easily happen. Store clerks and people walking in bad areas. Maybe you see a good Samaritan doing CPR on a homeless guy and getting OD.
It takes very little fentanyl to OD. Just breathing in some blown off someone's clothes can mess you up.
(https://rivcoda.org/sites/g/files/aldnop286/files/styles/coh_large/public/migrated/Portals-0-EasyGalleryImages-3060-ssthumbs3-Thumbs-Fentanyl-IG.jpg)
(https://d1l18ops95qbzp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/2023/07/31140624/Drug-Deaths-HIDTA-Years.png)
sources of that info?
With all this money floating around I guess its the demand that up...
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https://news.cuanschutz.edu/news-stories/fentanyl-and-counterfeit-prescription-drugs-facts-and-myths
What are some common myths about fentanyl?
At the consortium, we have a whole presentation called “Fentanyl MythBusters.” There are a few main myths that keep circulating despite being debunked.
Myth 1: “If fentanyl is in the room, and I touch it or inhale it, I'm going to overdose and die.” That is not true. Fentanyl is not a highly volatile compound. So it doesn’t sublimate (become vapor). It's really hard to get fentanyl into your body unless you directly snort it into your nose, directly drink it or inject it with a needle. Because otherwise it just doesn't go through the skin very well.
Myth 2: “Being near fentanyl causes serious effects.” After finding out they are near fentanyl, some people report being anxious or feeling like their heart rate increases, that a panic attack is occurring or that they are going to pass out. This is a myth. What happened was they hyperventilated, and they passed out from anxiety about fentanyl, not from fentanyl. We call it the nocebo effect. People don't realize how strong the power of suggestion is: Your expectation of a good thing or your expectation of a bad thing, and then it actually manifests.
Myth 3: “I will get hurt trying to render aid in an overdose situation.” Naloxone is very effective and can save a life. Don’t let the presence of fentanyl keep you from helping a friend, family member or stranger with an overdose. We can't afford that. We had over 2,000 people in Colorado die last year from drug overdoses. More than half of them involved fentanyl. We can't afford to have people be afraid to render aid for a reason that is unwarranted.
Myth 4: “Fentanyl is everywhere, and every pill is laced, even cannabis.” Not true. We also haven't seen anything yet in vaping. It would be really hard to vape fentanyl because the boiling point to get it into vaporizing is about 875 degrees, and most of the vape pens heat to about 400 or 425 degrees, maximum. Your lungs would be severely damaged at those temperatures. As for cannabis, there’s no marketing advantage with some of these prevalence myths.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/sep/04/common-myths-about-fentanyl-debunked-no-you-cant-a/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fighting-crisis/202001/the-fentanyl-hysteria-fact-and-fiction
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sources of that info?
With all this money floating around I guess its the demand that up...
Stats was from a civil beat article. https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/08/fentanyl-users-are-becoming-first-responders-as-ods-surge/
Good to know it's harder to get fentanyl poisoning by touching or inhaling. Still good to have Narcan for dealing with high risk people.
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If it's an innocent victim help them. But let the druggies die. We keep saving them instead of letting natural selection work.
what an awful thing to say
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what an awful thing to say
Next, we should let all the Democrat-run cities go down in flames. if they want the criminals on the streets, great. Evacuate the people who want out of the city, and leave the rest to go full-on Escape from New York.
Just give the evacuees refugee status just like the illegals pouring over the border paying for their living expense until they resettle.
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I am a huge fan of Darwinism. But he didn't invent it. It's just mother nature doing what she does best. The reason I ordered some narcan was because a friend works with high risk people and I like being prepared myself. I do find drug paraphernalia near my house which is next to an elementary school.
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Drug addicts make up most of the homeless. When they die, there will be less homeless. Refugees should only be allowed when they legally apply, all others should be considered invaders and should be treated as such. Mine the whole boarder and make sure everyone knows and illegal crossings along with cartels will decrease one way or another.
are you using the Narcan while you were typing this response?
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Drug addicts make up most of the homeless. When they die, there will be less homeless. Refugees should only be allowed when they legally apply, all others should be considered invaders and should be treated as such. Mine the whole boarder and make sure everyone knows and illegal crossings along with cartels will decrease one way or another.
Mines have been banned for over 20 years. Most countries consider using mines to be a war crime.
I guess this is who you are.
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Chemical warfare from China. Jokes on them though. We're the best customers who they steal all their ideas from. Without us their economy is hollowing out under communism.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/10/04/china-fentanyl-sanctions-opioids-us-treasury-mexico-drug-cartels/
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To each their own. I'll help a druggie spazzing even if I hate them, but this is America where people have a choice to help others or not.
except when it comes to taxes :rofl:
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Saving someone's life is probably a really gratifying feeling, generally speaking.
They say it's in a vending machine across the street from the Bike Shop.
Anyone know how much they charge?
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Saving someone's life is probably a really gratifying feeling, generally speaking.
They say it's in a vending machine across the street from the Bike Shop.
Anyone know how much they charge?
Website says it's free
Hawai'i Health & Harm Reduction Center (HHHRC)
Our main office
677 Ala Moana Blvd #226, Honolulu, HI 96813, USA
808-521-2437
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If people stopped selling and using
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/two-men-indicted-after-deadly-overdose-at-nightclub/
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If people stopped selling and using
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/two-men-indicted-after-deadly-overdose-at-nightclub/
So much wrong in this sentence...
The federal charges said the tip about the enterprise
came from a convicted drug dealer,
tied to a separate fatal fentanyl case,
who worked as a club security guard.
:popcorn:
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I never got my narcan. I'll stop by their office someday.
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my patient told me he got some at longs...
I never got my narcan. I'll stop by their office someday.
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If people stopped selling and using
https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/two-men-indicted-after-deadly-overdose-at-nightclub/
Aether was known as an underground, afterhours spot (rave). Basically, you had to know someone who knew about it to know they're around. Been like this for years. But in the past year or so, it'sbeen more mainstreem, like college students coming.
1 of the guys arrested is known for selling quality stuff, but his stuff is expensive. I wonder if they branched out to selling cheap crap to the college students who cannot afford his premium stuff. THis guy also has money, since he owns another very profitable legit business. His problem is staying out of the nightlife style and staying clean.
That vending machine only sells THC type products, not coke, MDMA, and Ketamine.
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my patient told me he got some at longs...
Free?
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i believe so...
Free?
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or just use the site listed earlier in the thread...
i believe so...
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or just use the site listed earlier in the thread...
I don't want them to have my info. 23 and Me just got 'hacked".
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I don't want them to have my info. 23 and Me just got 'hacked".
If you're so paranoid about a specific group or person that you don't want them to have your info,
it's 99% for certain they already have it.
If they don't have it, that means you aren't that important to them -- and you really are paranoid! :shake:
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If you're so paranoid about a specific group or person that you don't want them to have your info,
it's 99% for certain they already have it.
If they don't have it, that means you aren't that important to them -- and you really are paranoid! :shake:
Oh snap. :rofl:
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Whao
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Whao
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welcome to this forum kidso.
Why don't you introduce yourself in the General discussion/"introduce yourself" thread.
We would love to know about your interests and history.
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Will do once I got home
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https://www.hhhrc.org/naloxone
Scroll down and there is a map of the naloxone vending machines.
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I never got my narcan. I'll stop by their office someday.
I never got mine either.
Some tweaker probly stole it. :wtf:
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https://www.hhhrc.org/naloxone
Scroll down and there is a map of the naloxone vending machines.
Guess theirs no drug use north of Millilani and Kaneohe :crazy:
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Got my Narcan in the mail, 6 months later. Better late than never, but I recommend getting it in person instead. Amazon sells these for $45.
(https://i.imgur.com/XCO7SEP.jpg)
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I never got mine either.
Some tweaker probly stole it. :wtf:
Finally received after months of ordering.
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My restaurant in Waikiki is now carrying Narcan and managers have gone through training on how to use them. During our pre service meeting when the managers informed us that we were now carrying Narcan I jokingly said “so if your gonna do drugs make sure you guys do it here” needless to say the managers were not happy with that comment :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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My restaurant in Waikiki is now carrying Narcan and managers have gone through training on how to use them. During our pre service meeting when the managers informed us that we were now carrying Narcan I jokingly said “so if your gonna do drugs make sure you guys do it here” needless to say the managers were not happy with that comment :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Is the restaurant posting signs to let the public know, too? Seems like the Liberal thing to do -- i.e. virtue signaling.
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Two things to bear in mind when it comes to administering Narcan intra-nasally (up the nose): you cannot titrate the dose, and it can kick in pretty quick, depending on the patient. We were shown a training video which featured bodycam footage on the mainland of cops and fire responding to an OD on a bus. Narcan was administered, guy woke up agitated, refused to be searched and questioned, and eventually pulled a gun and fired wildly. One firefighter was struck & killed.
Point is this: Narcan given by IV can be given in small amounts at a time, and we can wake the patient up just enough so they'll breathe on their own. With intra-nasal Narcan, they're getting everything at once. When they wake up, they might not be expecting you to be hovering over them, and may not react well to it. If you want to carry Narcan and administer it on your own, that's up to you, and our Good Samaritan law should cover you-- just be careful. Also, it's not just druggies and bums OD'ing-- keep in mind there are kupuna out there with dementia who may have accidentally taken too much of their pain medication. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a caretaker managing their meds.
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Two things to bear in mind when it comes to administering Narcan intra-nasally (up the nose): you cannot titrate the dose, and it can kick in pretty quick, depending on the patient. We were shown a training video which featured bodycam footage on the mainland of cops and fire responding to an OD on a bus. Narcan was administered, guy woke up agitated, refused to be searched and questioned, and eventually pulled a gun and fired wildly. One firefighter was struck & killed.
Point is this: Narcan given by IV can be given in small amounts at a time, and we can wake the patient up just enough so they'll breathe on their own. With intra-nasal Narcan, they're getting everything at once. When they wake up, they might not be expecting you to be hovering over them, and may not react well to it. If you want to carry Narcan and administer it on your own, that's up to you, and our Good Samaritan law should cover you-- just be careful. Also, it's not just druggies and bums OD'ing-- keep in mind there are kupuna out there with dementia who may have accidentally taken too much of their pain medication. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a caretaker managing their meds.
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Thank you for this bit of wisdom.🤙
Appreciate it.
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Is the restaurant posting signs to let the public know, too? Seems like the Liberal thing to do -- i.e. virtue signaling.
C&C ordinance passed that bars need to carry them. IDK about restaurants that serve booze. The guy who introduced it is that Santos guy who also introduced the sensitive places bill and recent Glock lawsuit.
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Why just bars? If we can answer that question we found a solution to this problem.
Why not public libraries,beaches,shopping centers, movie theatres, fast food restaurants and..churches.
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Why just bars? If we can answer that question we found a solution to this problem.
Why not public libraries,beaches,shopping centers, movie theatres, fast food restaurants and..churches.
Recreational drug use is often done at home or in clubs.
Not many are going to church to get high -- at least not regular churches!! :geekdanc:
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Why just bars? If we can answer that question we found a solution to this problem.
Why not public libraries,beaches,shopping centers, movie theatres, fast food restaurants and..churches.
More or less regular people get overdoses at bars.
I don't think there's a overdose problem at most of the other places. And for places there is a problem, it's usually the homeless. No one cares about the homeless chronics.