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Title: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: ren on October 23, 2023, 12:29:11 PM
https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/north-carolina-and-north-dakota-police-chiefs-and-federal-firearms-licensees-indicted
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Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 23, 2023, 12:44:25 PM
Cliffnotes:

He was charged because even though he has a permit to have full auto firearms (SOT license), he has to write a letter and it has to be approved to why he needs it.  He stated it's for law enforcement demonstrations.  The AFT said he never used it for this, but instead personal use/collecting.

He pled guilty instead of fighting it.

I wonder if there's more to this story as someone like Vickers should know what he's doing.
Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: dafrtknocker on October 26, 2023, 08:32:21 AM
AFT, got a headline and can cover up their Screw-up.

Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2023/10/atfs-pursuit-of-larry-vickers-is-about-headlines-not-justice/#ixzz8HGx3MSF5
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ATF’s Import Branch approved the chiefs’ requests for a FN/FAL, internally suppressed Mp5s, full-auto Glock 18s, a belt-fed 7.62mm M240 machinegun and a French Fusil d’Assaut de la Manufacture d’Armes de Saint-Étienne, or FAMAS – a select-fire 5.56mm bullpup that uses AR magazines.

While most of the firearms would make great additions to a private collection, other than the Mp5SDs, few are in use at American law enforcement agencies – any American law enforcement agency. It raises the question as to why ATF’s Import Branch approved so many of the chiefs’ unusual requests. Were they involved in the caper or simply incompetent?


Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: hvybarrels on October 26, 2023, 11:56:33 PM
Not saying it's related but...

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article239071448.html
Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 29, 2023, 08:57:51 PM
Cliffnotes:

He was charged because even though he has a permit to have full auto firearms (SOT license), he has to write a letter and it has to be approved to why he needs it.  He stated it's for law enforcement demonstrations.  The AFT said he never used it for this, but instead personal use/collecting.

He pled guilty instead of fighting it.

I wonder if there's more to this story as someone like Vickers should know what he's doing.

Who knows. It would surprise me if he got railroaded but it also wouldn't surprise me if he abused his license so he could have some special pew pews in his collection.
Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 30, 2023, 08:06:35 AM
Who knows. It would surprise me if he got railroaded but it also wouldn't surprise me if he abused his license so he could have some special pew pews in his collection.

So no opinion then.   :rofl:
Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: eyeeatingfish on October 30, 2023, 02:02:48 PM
So no opinion then.   :rofl:

Close but not quite. The objective stance is that there is not enough information to form a good opinion. So yes, no opinion, but only because forming one would be unsupported at this point.
Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: ren on October 30, 2023, 02:08:00 PM
Close but not quite. The objective stance is that there is not enough information to form a good opinion. So yes, no opinion, but only because forming one would be unsupported at this point.

all that waha just to say no.
Title: Re: Larry Vickers plead guilty
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 03, 2023, 07:26:43 PM
He posted his dissapointment with wilson combat cutting ties. Esp after theyve been friends for 30yrs

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