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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: hvybarrels on November 09, 2023, 12:06:26 PM
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Based bloodbath. RNC is dead. Long live MAGA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aQ_Lq1-Ed4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJQQYJBJFmU
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Cliff notes for those who can't watch the vid.
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google...
Cliff notes for those who can't watch the vid.
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google...
Google-fu not strong enough.
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focus...
Google-fu not strong enough.
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I did a news search for his name. You can tell who the worst news organizations are because they all wrote hit pieces.
Lots of Reeeeeee
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Vivek had a terrible showing, he went on personal attacks all over the place. Haley was right when she called him scum.
Even if some of his ideas are good he's too double faced to believe what he says.
His argument about portions of Ukraine was so spurious as well. The regions speak Russian and haven't been part of Ukraine since 2014.... duh! because thats when Russia seized those areas.
Then he says Ukrainian's leader is a Nazi, only later to claim there was a comma and separate topics?
Vivek was interesting in the beginning but he's lost my vote.
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I've mentioned it before but Vivek comes across to me like a used car salesman.
Or a multi-level marketing salesman.
Both I don't trust.
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They are all vying for a distant 2nd place. Trump will win it unless the 51/49 logarithm is used to cheat again.
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Calling someone Scum is an admission that you lost the debate and are failing back to cheap lizard brain insults. Tired of these fake republicans and their corrupt establishment. Vivek came armed with the truth and knocked them down like bowling pins. Personally I’m suspicious of his motives but what he did had to be done, and I’m grateful he made a boring evening of cringelord losers preening themselves much less forgettable.
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I've mentioned it before but Vivek comes across to me like a used car salesman.
Or a multi-level marketing salesman.
Both I don't trust.
You're basing your SUBJECTIVE opinion on nothing specific. You are saying you don't trust him, but name another person from any party whom you do trust.
If that's all you have to say against him, then he's no better or worse than anyone else running for office.
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You're basing your SUBJECTIVE opinion on nothing specific. You are saying you don't trust him, but name another person from any party whom you do trust.
If that's all you have to say against him, then he's no better or worse than anyone else running for office.
I get the same used car salesman vibe from him as well. The fact that 1 of his debates, he said everything that I agree with has me on caution as it's rare to have a 100% agreement on everything. Like Trump for example, I agree with a lot of stuff he does, but I disagree when he talked about what to do with Red Flag Law. But Trump was in the spot light for much longer and held a much higher authority level than Vivek. And if we use someone not in politiics like Charlie Kirk, I agree with much of what he states, but disagree on 1 or 2 political issues.
I cannot prove the gut feeling I get from hearing Vivek in conversation. IDK if it was Warrior Poet, but a like individual who said that a study was done on people who were raped/robbed/assaulted/etc.... Many had a gut feeling that something bad was going to happen, but disregarded that feeling due to logic or similar thinking. So the moral of the story was listen to your gut. Now would this apply to this non-violent situation? IDK.
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I get the same used car salesman vibe from him as well. The fact that 1 of his debates, he said everything that I agree with has me on caution as it's rare to have a 100% agreement on everything. Like Trump for example, I agree with a lot of stuff he does, but I disagree when he talked about what to do with Red Flag Law. But Trump was in the spot light for much longer and held a much higher authority level than Vivek. And if we use someone not in politiics like Charlie Kirk, I agree with much of what he states, but disagree on 1 or 2 political issues.
I cannot prove the gut feeling I get from hearing Vivek in conversation. IDK if it was Warrior Poet, but a like individual who said that a study was done on people who were raped/robbed/assaulted/etc.... Many had a gut feeling that something bad was going to happen, but disregarded that feeling due to logic or similar thinking. So the moral of the story was listen to your gut. Now would this apply to this non-violent situation? IDK.
Feelings .....
Nothing more than feelings .....
--Barry Manilow
Your gut tells you Vivek is going to rape/rob/assault you??
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Feelings .....
Nothing more than feelings .....
--Barry Manilow
Your gut tells you Vivek is going to rape/rob/assault you??
Rape the nation, I mean I had the same feeling that Brandon would do the same, and it's come true.
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Trump name dropped Tucker as a possible running mate but not Vivek after that performance. My guess is that he doesn’t trust him either. Then again he has a lot of RINO knives in his back
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Rape the nation, I mean I had the same feeling that Brandon would do the same, and it's come true.
Brandon had a lifelong career upon which you could base that opinion. That's an objective, observable set of facts.
I don't know that you have that much evidence to base your opinion on with Vivek.
JMHO
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Rape the nation, I mean I had the same feeling that Brandon would do the same, and it's come true.
Yep. Same here. That and his 40 years of do nothing politics. That was my red flag.
Vivek talks with the speed of a M-60 machine gun. Fast talkers makes me wary. That's my red flag.
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Yep. Same here. That and his 40 years of do nothing politics. That was my red flag.
Vivek talks with the speed of a M-60 machine gun. Fast talkers makes me wary. That's my red flag.
Hillary is a slow talker, as is Slick Willie. Obama is also a slow talker.
Not sure your criteria would hold up under the slightest scrutiny.
Just sayin'.
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Calling someone Scum is an admission that you lost the debate and are failing back to cheap lizard brain insults. Tired of these fake republicans and their corrupt establishment. Vivek came armed with the truth and knocked them down like bowling pins. Personally I’m suspicious of his motives but what he did had to be done, and I’m grateful he made a boring evening of cringelord losers preening themselves much less forgettable.
Trump has used countless insults against people he didn't like. Glad to see you recognize his failure and lizard brain.
Plus, it's not like attacking Haley because her adult daughter uses tik tok is some genius or inciteful argument against Haley. It is a spurious argument, does he expect that Haley dictates the social media actions of her adult daughter?
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Feelings .....
Nothing more than feelings .....
You try to paint those observations off as emotions, you use feelings here as a pejorative. It is more like instincts, those things that keep you alive.
Nevermind, ignore feelings, they don't mean anything. Go pet that giant cuddly grizzly.
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Trump has used countless insults against people he didn't like. Glad to see you recognize his failure and lizard brain.
Plus, it's not like attacking Haley because her adult daughter uses tik tok is some genius or inciteful argument against Haley. It is a spurious argument, does he expect that Haley dictates the social media actions of her adult daughter?
Trump's insults are funny and score home runs because it's the truth. Haley is just another boring tedious DC parasite sponging off the military industrial complex. There's nothing original or interesting about her, not even her insults.
Dunking on her daughter was a fair point and necessary. She's an adult after all, and whenever she's in proximity to her mom she's putting the country in danger by having Chinese spy software installed on her phone.
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You try to paint those observations off as emotions, you use feelings here as a pejorative. It is more like instincts, those things that keep you alive.
Nevermind, ignore feelings, they don't mean anything. Go pet that giant cuddly grizzly.
Spidey Senses!! :thumbsup:
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Spidey Senses!! :thumbsup:
Funny to see someone who constantly ignores common sense -- calling it "being objective" -- post that feelings (aka instincts) are a valid basis for making decisions.
Screw the evidence. My gut tells me the opposite is true!!
Anti-gun activists know in their gut the world would be a better place if only police and the military were permitted to use guns -- even though historical evidence proves otherwise.
I guess trusting one's instincts only counts when certain people agree with the conclusion.
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But you are assuming the IRS is lying or otherwise doing something otherwise in abuse of their power. Your bias is showing, you are not representing an objective look at this thing.
You can say that you suspect the IRS and ATF might be doing something wrong but that's not what you are doing. Look at the way you say "No evidence there was any tax issue" when you know full well that you don't know this to be a fact. Unless you have some inside source you don't want to mention you have no knowledge of what type of evidence does or does not exist.
History is evidence. Paterns of behavior are evidence. Conclusions based on past trends of behavior are not using "instinct", but rather common sense logic. To argue that we need vetted evidence is not only contrary to the "instinct' post, but also ignores the evidence -- albeit indirect and historical - shows an objective viewpoint.
Did Dahmer eat parts of the body found in his closet? Having eaten others in the past, and the location of the body are circumstantial and historical evidence, any reasonable person can deduce the most likely truth from that.
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You try to paint those observations off as emotions, you use feelings here as a pejorative. It is more like instincts, those things that keep you alive.
Nevermind, ignore feelings, they don't mean anything. Go pet that giant cuddly grizzly.
so dumb
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Trump's insults are funny and score home runs because it's the truth. Haley is just another boring tedious DC parasite sponging off the military industrial complex. There's nothing original or interesting about her, not even her insults.
Dunking on her daughter was a fair point and necessary. She's an adult after all, and whenever she's in proximity to her mom she's putting the country in danger by having Chinese spy software installed on her phone.
Pencil Neck
Low Energy Jeb
Crazy Nancy
Crazy Hillary
Little Marco
Sleepy Eyes
etc. etc. etc.
Boot-Edge-Edge[ (OK that one was funny)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump
We aren't exactly dealing with a rocket scientist here.
I don't know much about Haley beyond what I have seen of the debates so there may very well be deserved criticism of her, I don't defend her from any of that but that doesn't make Vivek's performance any better.
You framed an actual coherent argument about the problem of her daughter using Tik Tok, one that makes sense from a security standpoint but Vivek didn't. He only said she couldn't control her own family, that is not a good argument, that is my criticism of him. I prefer candidates who can make better arguments, like yours.
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I guess trusting one's instincts only counts when certain people agree with the conclusion.
History is evidence. Paterns of behavior are evidence. Conclusions based on past trends of behavior are not using "instinct", but rather common sense logic. To argue that we need vetted evidence is not only contrary to the "instinct' post, but also ignores the evidence -- albeit indirect and historical - shows an objective viewpoint.
Did Dahmer eat parts of the body found in his closet? Having eaten others in the past, and the location of the body are circumstantial and historical evidence, any reasonable person can deduce the most likely truth from that.
CMO talked about vibes and gut feelings. These are things that are not always quantifiable. They are often difficult to impossible to put into words but our brain performs these assessments to keep us safe. For example you can often read hostile body language on a person but unless you are trained to articulate it, most can't really explain it, they just would say the person seemed hostile. You experience all these "feelings" too if you are a normal human. You just only complain about feelings when it is against something you like.
They aren't always perfect but we don't always have time to scientifically measure things either. To CMO, Vivek gives off bad vibes, they activate his gut feelings. Is that a foolproof argument against Vivek? No, but Vivek isn't on trial either CMO doesn't need to prove his distrust for Vivek.