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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: QUIETShooter on December 28, 2023, 06:58:10 AM
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I'm in Vegas with my family. My grandson turned 21 so we took him to introduce him to some wonderful and wholesome values that he now can legally partake.
WTF. :rofl:
Hadn't been back since the Scam-demic and everything is expensive now. As most people from Hawaii we are Downtown and staying at the Cal.
Here are some observations:
Table games are no longer $5 minimum. Most are $15 and up. Especially craps, which is my favorite game to play. Cal used to have a "craps pit" with IIRC 5 tables maybe more. Now 2 measly tables and so far only one is open. So stupid.
Restaurants are both expensive and not open all the time. Seriously? In Vegas? This is a (well, used to be) a 24/7 town. Not anymore. The Buffet at Main St. Opens daily for brunch only and dinner is offered only on Fri and Sat. Before you could eat at a whim because everywhere there was someplace to eat. Now you gotta plan or make reservations.
Got in last night. I'll post other stuff if it looks interesting enough to share.
Feel free to chime in if any of you have been recently and your thoughts.
Oh yeah, I just came back to the room with coffee from Lappert's. Large coffee now looks medium, price is like $10 and some change for regular brew, and now they don't have the promotion where you get a free doughnut with a large coffee purchase. Shiite. :grrr:
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I was there 6 months ago and noticed the same thing.
It didn't bother me because that whole trip was all free anyway.
Retirement gift from the company.
I don't really gamble. I just went to squeeze my grand-babies.
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they got staffing issues too so no 24hr service at many places.
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they got staffing issues too so no 24hr service at many places.
Yep. Main St. has a sign by the craps tables saying the craps table will be open on Fridays and Sundays from 9am. to 1am. only. WTF. The sign continues to say that the Cal has craps tables for the patrons enjoyment. :rofl:
Oh ok. So you go to the Cal and one table is open and it is jam packed. Gone are the days I used to live at those damn tables. Many times till the wee hours of the morning.! :shaka:
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We went 5 times last year and a few once Vegas reopened.
Downtown no longer has $5 tables, except Golden Nugget. Freemont craps table that I played at for the first time I ever saw was empty, I was the only one playing. Min was $15. Other casinos empty due to having $10-$15 mins. But Golden Nugget was packed due to their $5 tables.
Like the Cal, other casinos like NYNY have staffing issues. NYNY craps table was closed mid day due to no workers. This is the first time I've been there and the craps table was closed.
Other hotels on the strip have $25 min and even higher at night/weekends. Venetian still has $15 craps table during the day time, even on weekends. This is our primary casino. Wynn is $50 on the weekends and higher, same with Aria and Encore. Cosmo has $25 tables, but sometimes $15 craps, 3 card poker during the day.
After covid, staffing shortages still are a problem, so many places aren't 24/7 anymore. Many buffets also haven't returned like Station Casino (GVR, Red Rock), NYNY, Aria, etc...pre covid, every casino had a buffet.
It seems like Casino's are still trying to recover lost profits when they were closed during covid. So vegas is really no longer an affordable place for the just below mid income as the table mins are much higher, food more expensive, etc...if you're a gambler.
Add in no more free parking. But Resorts World has free if youre a players card member, which is easy to do. Palazzo and Wynn all charge now. Miracle Mile began charging a year ago, and was free all these decades.
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I hope that Vegas isn't heading toward the direction that mid income people will have a problem going and having the same good time they used to have precovid. But since F1 will be here the next few years, it looks like it's going to continue to cater more toward higher income people.
When I play craps, I bet the inside, I don't play pass line. So a $15 min table, that's $66 each time. A $25 table, that's $110. So you can see how this affects me, esp when people PSO, which happens often.
Same goes with Ultimate Texas Holdem, which I like. $15 table, you lose at min $45 a hand if you play no bonus bets. But I do, so it's more like $55-$95 a hand if I 4x odds. A $25 table would be between $85-$125 a hand.
BTW, I hit ATS at the Venetian last year. 5,5,5. That was fun. 1 lady had 25,25,25. SHe was down like $7K before my roll and had her last few hundred on the table. She had about $14K when I was done. She gave me a few hundred as tip.
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iMO, the decline started when Binion's Horseshoe closed the first time. Once the casino was bought out and the place renovated, it lost that old timey western saloon charm I always enjoyed. During the bankruptcy, they sold the million dollar display that had been there for decades. Before they sold it, taking your own pictures in front of the display was encouraged. Then they posted signs that only photos taken by staff -- for a fee -- was allowed.
i remember walking into the main blackjack area on the Fremont side, and it was .... quiet. looking around, I saw that the slots around that long pit area were turned off. A supervisor explained that the casino has to have enough cash on hand to pay out a jackpot on every game, or it can't operate them. About half the machines throughout the casino had to be turned off.
Once the place reopened with scantily clad women in cowboy attire, bright lights throughout the place, and noise to rival the busiest Station casino, I stopped going back. Went from being by favorite downtown casino to bottom of the list.
That's about when i noticed downtown as a whole began changing. Maybe it was a signal for them to catch up with the times .... that it's not the 1930s anymore?
The next red flag that old Vegas was dying was the restaurants. Binion's has a prime rib and steak special that couldn't be beat. They closed that restaurant and went to buffet exclusively. The food quality sucked. Fremont had a $6 breakfast special -- 2 eggs, pancakes, bacon, sausage, ham and coffee. That went away, too.
Everything has been in a slow decline for years before the pandemic. That's why there are new casinos downtown now. Lots of developers and owners lost lots of money in the Obama years starting with the housing crash. People didn't have the funds to visit (lose), and with low interest rates artificalliy kept low, business borrowed and borrowed to invest. Many of those properties changed hands when they couldn't repay the debt due to low attendance.
So, after a decade and a half of difficulties, the pandemic hit. I remember when the Cal hired extra staff to clean each machine after every use when the Norwalk Virus was rampant. I can't imagine the cost of keeping a casino clean with a more deadly virus. Many are still afraid of leaving their homes no matter how much the casinos try to clean.
Then came the parking. It used to be a well-known secret that you could park for free at almost all casinos if you just tipped for valet parking. Most self-parked thinking valet would charge for parking. With the additional cost of self parking, i imagince more are using ride shares. Why spend that money for your car to sit when you can spend it on rides? Drink all you want -- we're taking an Uber! :crazy: :rofl:
Following that came the "resort fees." A scam if ever there was one.
Vegas has always catered to the average person by trying to make them feel special so they will feel more free to blow the money they saved on games. Now, it's a totally new landscape. With online gaming and casinos in many states' back yards, there's a lot of competition for the gamblers' dollars. Vegas now caters to the event crowds. Check out a calendar for Vegas events. It's packed. And now Formula 1 racing will be returning in 2024.
They know conventions and sports events mean lots of people coming just for those things. Enticing them to come is not needed -- they've already decided to be there for the race, the sports event, the convention, the rodeo, etc. So, the new Vegas is designed to "sheer the sheep" as quickly and as cheaply as they can. Hence the high table limits. From what I've read and seen of videos, the machines are also less "loose" now.
Biden didn't help matters with his high inflation partially caused by all that stimulus money during COVID.
Vegas used to be in the fantasy business -- an adult Disney Land. Now it's a typical tourist trap with higher prices and less value.
I only see it getting worse.
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iMO, the decline started when Binion's Horseshoe closed the first time. Once the casino was bought out and the place renovated, it lost that old timey western saloon charm I always enjoyed. During the bankruptcy, they sold the million dollar display that had been there for decades. Before they sold it, taking your own pictures in front of the display was encouraged. Then they posted signs that only photos taken by staff -- for a fee -- was allowed.
i remember walking into the main blackjack area on the Fremont side, and it was .... quiet. looking around, I saw that the slots around that long pit area were turned off. A supervisor explained that the casino has to have enough cash on hand to pay out a jackpot on every game, or it can't operate them. About half the machines throughout the casino had to be turned off.
Once the place reopened with scantily clad women in cowboy attire, bright lights throughout the place, and noise to rival the busiest Station casino, I stopped going back. Went from being by favorite downtown casino to bottom of the list.
That's about when i noticed downtown as a whole began changing. Maybe it was a signal for them to catch up with the times .... that it's not the 1930s anymore?
The next red flag that old Vegas was dying was the restaurants. Binion's has a prime rib and steak special that couldn't be beat. They closed that restaurant and went to buffet exclusively. The food quality sucked. Fremont had a $6 breakfast special -- 2 eggs, pancakes, bacon, sausage, ham and coffee. That went away, too.
Everything has been in a slow decline for years before the pandemic. That's why there are new casinos downtown now. Lots of developers and owners lost lots of money in the Obama years starting with the housing crash. People didn't have the funds to visit (lose), and with low interest rates artificalliy kept low, business borrowed and borrowed to invest. Many of those properties changed hands when they couldn't repay the debt due to low attendance.
So, after a decade and a half of difficulties, the pandemic hit. I remember when the Cal hired extra staff to clean each machine after every use when the Norwalk Virus was rampant. I can't imagine the cost of keeping a casino clean with a more deadly virus. Many are still afraid of leaving their homes no matter how much the casinos try to clean.
Then came the parking. It used to be a well-known secret that you could park for free at almost all casinos if you just tipped for valet parking. Most self-parked thinking valet would charge for parking. With the additional cost of self parking, i imagince more are using ride shares. Why spend that money for your car to sit when you can spend it on rides? Drink all you want -- we're taking an Uber! :crazy: :rofl:
Following that came the "resort fees." A scam if ever there was one.
Vegas has always catered to the average person by trying to make them feel special so they will feel more free to blow the money they saved on games. Now, it's a totally new landscape. With online gaming and casinos in many states' back yards, there's a lot of competition for the gamblers' dollars. Vegas now caters to the event crowds. Check out a calendar for Vegas events. It's packed. And now Formula 1 racing will be returning in 2024.
They know conventions and sports events mean lots of people coming just for those things. Enticing them to come is not needed -- they've already decided to be there for the race, the sports event, the convention, the rodeo, etc. So, the new Vegas is designed to "sheer the sheep" as quickly and as cheaply as they can. Hence the high table limits. From what I've read and seen of videos, the machines are also less "loose" now.
Biden didn't help matters with his high inflation partially caused by all that stimulus money during COVID.
Vegas used to be in the fantasy business -- an adult Disney Land. Now it's a typical tourist trap with higher prices and less value.
I only see it getting worse.
I always thought that Boyd properties would be in trouble once grandma and grandma dies, as that's their target audience. This same audience only stays downtown and rarely goes to the strip. The younger generation that are under 40 stay on the strip and party. Many don't gamble, but will chip in for a $20,000 table at a night club. Sleep all day and eat and repeat the club scene. So little gambling time. Their parents are slowly retiring, but with HI's high cost of living, many are still working. So they cannot go to Vegas every other month like how grandpa/grandma does and cause they don't have the disposable income. Then add in covid where grandparents stopped going due to being high risk. When I was downtown last year, I didn't see the older generation like how they used to go. Craps table at the fremont had mostly grandpa's with their chair to sit on and a rack of green chips ($25). Grandma's playing slots/Blackjack.
At least the strip figured some stuff out by appealing to the under 40 generation with night clubs and day clubs (pool parties in the summer, closed in the winter).
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they got staffing issues too so no 24hr service at many places.
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Looking at the big picture, why does it seem like every business is understaffed?
Where did all the people go? Alien abductions?
Just off the top of my head....
HPD
C&C of Honolulu
The shooting range
my favorite manapua place tried to hire my daughter when we went to buy manapua :rofl:
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Looking at the big picture, why does it seem like every business is understaffed?
Where did all the people go? Alien abductions?
Just off the top of my head....
HPD
C&C of Honolulu
The shooting range
my favorite manapua place tried to hire my daughter when we went to buy manapua :rofl:
The reasons are many,
Lots of parents decided to home school during the pandemic after seeing the dumpster fire that is the public school system. In a 2 parent home, one could support the family if the other stays home and cooks, takes care of the home, and provides schooling for their kids.
Many people found remote jobs they can do on the internet. No need to brave public spaces.
Others moved in with family and split the cost of living. If they qualify for gov't assistance or unemployment, they don't have to work a job just to pay taxes and rent.
Some found jobs where they weren't waiting on the public -- to reduce the chances of coming into contact with COVID.
Then there are the people who gamed the system, getting their hands on more of the relief and stimulus money than they are entitled to.
'Biggest fraud in a generation': The looting of the Covid relief plan known as PPP
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/biggest-fraud-generation-looting-covid-relief-program-known-ppp-n1279664
And now there are fewer college students and grads looking for jobs to pay off their student loans.
The list goes on.
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Flapp and CMO are spot on with their observations on the direction Vegas is heading.
Doesn't look good for the regular folks. I guess it must be working because the major corporations in Vegas is reporting profitable quarters.
I'm far from being a cheapskate. I don't mind spending money but I do appreciate getting some kind of value out of the money I spend. I see less and less of it in places like Vegas.
And I STILL cannot get a spot on the craps tables! Always full of these damn Hawaii old fut grey-haired men spending their measly retirement income on a negative expectation game.
Oh wait. I just described myself. :rofl:
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Looking at the big picture, why does it seem like every business is understaffed?
Where did all the people go? Alien abductions?
Just off the top of my head....
HPD
C&C of Honolulu
The shooting range
my favorite manapua place tried to hire my daughter when we went to buy manapua :rofl:
biden gave money to people during the scam-demic so they didn't have to work. Our tax money was given out freely and he convinced the masses that the money came from trees.
Now the effects of that snake oil salesman strategy is coming back to bite everyone in the ass except the snake oil salesmen.
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And I STILL cannot get a spot on the craps tables! Always full of these damn Hawaii old fut grey-haired men spending their measly retirement income on a negative expectation game.
Go Encore where I saw a $1K min table. Just play the hard ways for $1 each. No table min on these bets. Table had about 5 young guys on it. Prob trust fun babies. I know people who work the casino credit and many of these trust fund babies go broke in 5 years.
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Give it a few years. I’m sure things will turn around
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Go Encore where I saw a $1K min table. Just play the hard ways for $1 each. No table min on these bets. Table had about 5 young guys on it. Prob trust fun babies. I know people who work the casino credit and many of these trust fund babies go broke in 5 years.
i was at the Hard Rock Casino once before I was in the old fogey age bracket. The music was so loud, it was like they were purposely trying to repel the older crowd because they obviously liked the younger "rock & roller" demographic.
I picked a $100 minimum table just to see how things would go -- and because the dealer was drop-dead gorgeous!!
I had the table to myself and was having a pleasant shouting match/conversation with the dealer over the sound of the music, when this kid walked up and plopped down $1,000 -- and his ID. I guess he knew he'd be carded, so he had it ready.
First hand, he stayed on 12 against a dealer's 10. Lost.
Next hand, he hit a hard 17 against a dealer 4. Lost.
Then he doubled down on an 8 against a dealer 10. Lost.
Three hands, and he was out of chips. Each time the kid made a play, the dealer and I gave each other a "WTF?" look.
As he walkedi away, I said, "Must be nice to be playing with somebody else's money."
She replied, "We get that a lot. Kids spending their parent's money, and no idea what they're doing."
I doubled my $500 buy-in after about an hour of back and forth and tipped her $50.
I have a hundred stories like that from Vegas. It's the main reason I go, really. You see things you'll probably never see anywhere else.
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i was at the Hard Rock Casino once before I was in the old fogey age bracket. The music was so loud, it was like they were purposely trying to repel the older crowd because they obviously liked the younger "rock & roller" demographic.
I picked a $100 minimum table just to see how things would go -- and because the dealer was drop-dead gorgeous!!
I had the table to myself and was having a pleasant shouting match/conversation with the dealer over the sound of the music, when this kid walked up and plopped down $1,000 -- and his ID. I guess he knew he'd be carded, so he had it ready.
First hand, he stayed on 12 against a dealer's 10. Lost.
Next hand, he hit a hard 17 against a dealer 4. Lost.
Then he doubled down on an 8 against a dealer 10. Lost.
Three hands, and he was out of chips. Each time the kid made a play, the dealer and I gave each other a "WTF?" look.
As he walkedi away, I said, "Must be nice to be playing with somebody else's money."
She replied, "We get that a lot. Kids spending their parent's money, and no idea what they're doing."
I doubled my $500 buy-in after about an hour of back and forth and tipped her $50.
I have a hundred stories like that from Vegas. It's the main reason I go, really. You see things you'll probably never see anywhere else.
Id be squeezing my cheeks at $100 a hand. $25 makes me nervous.
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Id be squeezing my cheeks at $100 a hand. $25 makes me nervous.
I normally play $25 minimum tables exclusively. Hard Rock is the only time I ever did the $100 table. Damned biological urges!! :rofl:
I learned over time that the $25 tables keep most of the newbies away. Those are the ones who join a $5 table with $20 and proceed to ruin a favorable shuffle. Most times when one of those newbies enters a $25 table, they only last a hand or two. The seasoned players will actually sit out or take a restroom break until that person walks away.
I've bet hundreds on a hand many times, but usually at a $25 table with the cards running hot. $100 minimum is too rich for my blood in the long run.
Trying to remember the most I've bet -- probably a $100 hand, split twice, and a double-down on 2 of the hands. That was $500 on the table. Wound up winning a double, losing a double, and pushing the original hand -- a net tie. :geekdanc:
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I was playing the electronic craps game when my son in law came running to me breathless. He gasped that the craps table has 4 empty slots and he wants me to play with him.
So onward we went on a quest to win millions. He's never played craps before, only watched videos and apps on the game.
The table minimum was $15. He bought in for $200. I was thinking we need a miracle. :rofl:
Surprisingly, we were racking up the chips for the first 10 minutes or so of the game. I tried to tell .him to take odds on his passline and Come bets but when he found out how much he had to put out there he decided not to play the odds.
So while he was winning even money, he would have won much much more.
Then the table turned. And the dice turned cold. He tried to compensate by putting more bets out there with again, no odds.
Seven out. Line away. :( He was felted (no chips)
I felt bad so I gave him a Benjamin and told him to go play something else. He took that Benjamin and played Blackjack. He came back with a $250 dollar profit. Good for him. ;D
As for me, I bought in for $1000 and I always stop playing if I lose half. And that's what happened. I colored up after losing half my buy-in. Craps is entertainment for me. And like a true craps degenerate, I will always swing for the fences. I'm there to play. If I wanted to make money I would have thrown that $1000 into our CD. It's a crazy rollercoaster ride.
A ride that is both exhilarating and depressing at the same time. "Don't Stress.....Just Press" becomes the craps degenerate's mantra. It is, after all, a negative expectation game. Something the craps players understand and accept.
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It's been my experience that 9 time out of 10, first time craps players do really well rolling the dice. Beginner's luck or something.
I ran into a guy I worked with at Hickam AFB and his wife. I was talking to another coworker from my office at the time. Crazy we all ran into each other.
We had dinner at the Fremont Seafood Buffet, and that's when they told us (1) after a day of playing and winning a few sessions at poker games, they were still down several hundred bucks, and (2) neither had ever played craps.
You could tell they were angry and depressed they were down so much -- probably more then they'd budgeted.
The other coworker and I said they had to play craps with us. They just had to bet like we told them, and roll anything but a 7 -- mostly.
They were doing very well. So well, in fact, the table perked up and became crowded. After telling them what to bet on, it was their decision whether to take it down, play the same bet again, or press it up. They both would wait for a couple of wins before pressing, then after a couple presses started taking bets down as they hit. I was doing sort of the same, but I'd press twice before taking it. My other friend was very aggressive and wanted to get her bets as big as possible so they'd make more when they hit-- so pressing mostly with very little taking.
The couple wound up covering all their losses for the trip plus most of their expenses. The other friend lost all of her buy-in. I was in between, cashing out with about $450 profit.
That couple was crazy happy! They told us their trip was turning into a total disaster until craps. Also, when I got back to work, there was a gift basket on my desk thanking me for educating them on gambling and helping rescue their vacation. I gave them the standard advice of setting limits, managing their bankroll, knowing how much they need for a session at a specific game, don't drink too much if at all, etc. The usual things you pick up from books, videos and experience.
Everyone i've introduced to craps has had a similar success with one exception -- my older daughter. She was more interested in the shows.
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It's been my experience that 9 time out of 10, first time craps players do really well rolling the dice. Beginner's luck or something.
This past May, we were at Resort World and I bought my friends wife in for $50. It was a $25 table so she played pass line with even odds. She made about 12+points. It was only 2 of us on the table. My bet was the inside for $110. I wasn't doing to well up to this point so I wasn't as aggressive as I normally am. She made about $600 after tip and giving me my $50 back. I made about $1300.
I've never seen anyone make 12+ points. But me not playing the pass line didn't matter too much as only 1 or 2 were the 4 and 10.
First time shooter and she now wants to go back and play again.
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I've been keeping track of F1 and how it affected Vegas.
Basically, the high end casinos made out. Mid level and below and businesses got screwed. 1 gas station sells on avg 3000 gallons a day. But with all the traffic for the past months, his average was like 80 gallons a day. Same with off strip restaurants, daily profits fell 80% for months.
F1 catered to the people with money as the private jet owners will come and stay at the high casinos like Wynn, Aria, Cosmo, etc...They don't stay at Harrahs, NYNY, Luxor, etc...
I saw vids during the race of restaurants who were right on the race track and they were 80% empty. F1 orginally wanted $50K per race track side restaurant, but then changed to $1400 per head for their max occupancy count. Which means if the restaurants were full, then the guys not by the window paid extra to eat and not see anything.
They also messed up on the walk ways going over the course. Instead of putting a tint on the outside of the ones with glass, they thought it was fine to put it on the inside, which people peeled off.
F1 said they don't need any money from the city, but later changed and got like $40 million or something, which the locals are pissed about.
My sister in law is a bartender at a high end bar in a high end casino and she said her tips were good, but not great. And so were all her other service industry friends at various places. Def not worth the 7 months of traffic.
Vegas is promoting on how the Wynn made $700K in tips and each dealer gets $2K. But they leave out that 1 guy tipped $200K. And this doesn't off set the less foot traffic for months.
I was looking at room rates at the Palazzo and normal is like $400, but F1 weekend was like $1500. Then it went down to $700 with 2 weeks until the race. Day of, they still had rooms available. Compared to superbowl weekend or March Madness where they're sold out months before the event. THis tells me that no one was going.
I YT'er said he knows an Aria dealer who said they made good tips during the event, but wouldn't say how much. But def not worth the months of slower traffic.
So in the end F1 will be there to stay for at least 3 years due to contract, with the option to extend to 10 years. I think they will stay because the high end casinos who have the most pull made tons of money off of the rich people who came in. This supports the route that we speculate Vegas is heading toward. Cater mainly to the rich, screw the average joe.
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Fountaine Bleu grand opening
Was at 12am. After all the paid celebs left by 2am, the casino was empty. $1000 min tables and you're lucky to find a $100 min table. Compared this to the Venetian on a week day that's still packed. They aren't going to last long if they keep this up. A few days later, Casino still empty, unsure what the min bets are.
Resort World is remodeling to appeal more to locals. Guess their Chinese tourist aren't coming in still. Smart move as they did cater toward Asians, but not as obvious as Lucky Dragon Casino did. Which alienated all other cultures.
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I stayed at Mainstreet March 23 -28, this year, after a long hiatus due to Covid. What shocked me was the $15 minimums on the tables and the atmosphere on Fremont Street. It looked cheap and dirty. Boyd Rewards seem to "forget" the Hawaii tourists. (I still have my Hawaii Only B Connected card(?) Hawaii players club card.) Now Boyd Points expire after 6 months of inactivity. For me, doing a Vegas trip every 6 months to keep my status is out of the question. I'm not a big gambler. It took me the entire trip to move up to Sapphire.
I stayed again at the Mainstreet October 19 - 25. I was aware the F1 was scheduled in 2 weeks but didn't expect the poor planning. The fountains at the Mirage were blocked off on the street side, traffic was horrible, and the locals were over it. I rented a car one day and with all the detours, it took me 15 minutes to get out of Vegas.
Showing my age, I miss the old psychology of the casinos. Was it that long ago that there were junkets for $200 including airfare, hotels and meals? They were catering to players. The Cal had $2 craps and 21 tables. Walking into a casino, you could hear the clanking of $1 coins dropping into the metal bowl of a slot machine, the waitresses pushing cocktails and tobacco, and the players waving down a change girl.
I guess I turned into an old fut. The old casino psychology of the player losing a few bucks and having a good time has been replaced by extracting as much money as possible ASAP. Unfortunately, that seems to be same perception tourists have when they visit our islands.
Las Vegas isn't the only thing that has changed. My priorities have also. Prior to my last 2 trips to Vegas, in 30 years I saw only 2 shows and went on one tour, On the last 2 trips I've seem Donny Osman, Terry Fator, Barry Manlow, Shin Lim, and Jeff Dunham. Las Vegas has had to reinvent itself to remain competitive in the tourist market. What can I say? We can complain about the changes we don't like, but its business. If we don't like something, we have to vote with our dollars.
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I stayed at Mainstreet March 23 -28, this year, after a long hiatus due to Covid. What shocked me was the $15 minimums on the tables and the atmosphere on Fremont Street. It looked cheap and dirty. Boyd Rewards seem to "forget" the Hawaii tourists. (I still have my Hawaii Only B Connected card(?) Hawaii players club card.) Now Boyd Points expire after 6 months of inactivity. For me, doing a Vegas trip every 6 months to keep my status is out of the question. I'm not a big gambler. It took me the entire trip to move up to Sapphire.
I stayed again at the Mainstreet October 19 - 25. I was aware the F1 was scheduled in 2 weeks but didn't expect the poor planning. The fountains at the Mirage were blocked off on the street side, traffic was horrible, and the locals were over it. I rented a car one day and with all the detours, it took me 15 minutes to get out of Vegas.
Showing my age, I miss the old psychology of the casinos. Was it that long ago that there were junkets for $200 including airfare, hotels and meals? They were catering to players. The Cal had $2 craps and 21 tables. Walking into a casino, you could hear the clanking of $1 coins dropping into the metal bowl of a slot machine, the waitresses pushing cocktails and tobacco, and the players waving down a change girl.
I guess I turned into an old fut. The old casino psychology of the player losing a few bucks and having a good time has been replaced by extracting as much money as possible ASAP. Unfortunately, that seems to be same perception tourists have when they visit our islands.
Las Vegas isn't the only thing that has changed. My priorities have also. Prior to my last 2 trips to Vegas, in 30 years I saw only 2 shows and went on one tour, On the last 2 trips I've seem Donny Osman, Terry Fator, Barry Manlow, Shin Lim, and Jeff Dunham. Las Vegas has had to reinvent itself to remain competitive in the tourist market. What can I say? We can complain about the changes we don't like, but its business. If we don't like something, we have to vote with our dollars.
Las Vegas Sands corp (Palazzo/Venetian) was the last of the "take care of your guest" mentality when the OG owner died last year or so. Now it's under new corporate, make as much money as we can, type of running. WHich is why they began charging for parking. The OG owner was very against charging for parking and turned it down many times over the years.
IDK if Vacations HI reopened after Covid. But they had the $500 for 5 nights, airfare and room, plus 3 meals a day pre covid.SOmetimes you can get it for $350 instead.
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Was there in October and stayed on the strip.
Half the escalators didn't work (the half going up :crazy:), crap tables all $25, food not available, room service sucked.
Went down town and Freemont Street was sad, even Hogs and Heffers was out of sync !
After twice yearly visits for 33 years, probably my last visit. :'(
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Was there in October and stayed on the strip.
Half the escalators didn't work (the half going up :crazy:), crap tables all $25, food not available, room service sucked.
Went down town and Freemont Street was sad, even Hogs and Heffers was out of sync !
After twice yearly visits for 33 years, probably my last visit. :'(
To be fair, the escalator thing has been going on way before covid.
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One of the problems with casinos is they design the floor plan to keep you lost, having to pass by the gaming areas no matter where you are going, and only give you one path to get anywhere.
So, when an escalator or elevator is out of order, it often means having to walk halfway around the casino to find an alternate route.
I mentioned in the "Tipping" thread about Circus-Circus, and how they have a monorail between the casino/hotel and the 'annex" with motel style buildings.
The monorail breaks down frequently. When i was there, they had a tram/bus shuttling us back and forth.
If that happens today in the time of staff shortages, getting to your room and back might involve a pretty long walk carrying all your stuff.
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Yesterday my wife and I went to the Strip with our kids. They wanted to ride the NYNY roller coaster and play at the arcade since we had our 10 yr. old grandaughter along with us.
Then the usual, visit Hershey World, M&M Store, Coke Store, etc.
For this old fut it was boring so I just hung out in the corners, drinking my regular Starbucks coffee (black) and people watching.
While watching the sea of humanity all around me, I couldn't help but think who would or would not survive if the SHTF. Even started to estimate how long. Like 1 hr., 2 months, 5 minutes...... :rofl:
The kids drove cars and was planning to go to Top Golf and also have dinner there. My wife was getting tired and I was getting bored with the SHTF game so we decided to taxi back to home hotel. But wife wanted to check out the new Fountaine Blueu resort that opened just recently.
Really nice and posh place that is up there with the Wynn, Encore, and Palazzo/Venetian. Security wore suit and tie, had Doormen and Bellmen all over the place and people there were the snooty rich beyond all means wannabe types.
Pretty amusing to watch, especially me, the old fut walking around in Walmart jeans and collared shirt from Hawaiian Island Creations. Oh yeah, with Sketcher sneakers that was on sale. :rofl:
The best was the Food Court. A foo-foo type food court. No Burger Kings, McDonalds, or Taco Bells here. All artisan fancy named establishments selling expensive food that taste like: you guessed it, Burger King, McDonald, or Taco Bell. But add a couple of zeros to the price, LOL!!
We tried this sushi place. 3 rolls for $33. I said, ok, it's Vegas. I get it. What I don't get is when the food came I saw the smallest sushi rolls in the whole world. For 33 dollars.
I was still hungry. So wife said wanna try a burrito at that fancy Taco Bell place? I said ok what the hell. Still hungry. So this burrito was $17. Not bad price for Vegas. Again the smallest burrito you will ever see in the civilized world.
I looked at my wife and said let's get da hell outta here..... :rofl:
Took the taxi back to the hotel. The fare came out to like $16 and some change. I gave the driver $40 and told him to keep the change.
I love seeing the look on their faces because I'm sure not even the foo-foo rich type wanna-bees would treat the common working man that way.
My Vegas trip continues. Today we visit the Wynn and eat at their Buffet for brunch.
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Too bad Hard Rock closed. They had a nice Mexican style restaurant called The Pink Taco. Let your imagination roam free! :rofl:
With margaritas, 2 meals, and tip, the total was less than $60. The food was delicious, service was great, and the quantities more than some can finish.
I went there at least once every trip.
They also had a very swanky high-end restaurant where everything was a la carte. No sides came with your meal, so you got to choose -- and pay for -- each side separately.
The quality was amazing, and the quantities made you forget how much it cost.
For 3 of us with top tier steaks, shared bowls of side dishes -- 3-4 I think -- and cocktails, we got out of there for $275 incl. tip. Less than $100/per person seemed more than reasonable for a relaxing meal like that listening to a live jazz band. :thumbsup:
Based on the posts here and my own experiences, I don't expect to find anything like that again before I'm too old to operate my own Rascal scooter while on oxygen and playing a Wheel of Fortune machine.
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My Vegas trip continues. Today we visit the Wynn and eat at their Buffet for brunch.
It was ok. They now have 3 lines. One is for the walk-ins with no reservations. The other is for people who made reservations. The third is interesting. It is for people with reservations and opted to pay an additional $100 and change for the privilege of bypassing the masses and go straight in.
So one line had tons of people crammed together with sad, teary eyes and rumbling stomachs which moved an inch in an hour.
Then another line where people with reservations experienced very little wait time.
Then the line where people pay a ton of extra money to go straight in to eat buffet food. I'm a bit perturbed about this arrangement. It feeds right into my gripe about Vegas getting greedy and will push for profits with no shame. This arrangement means the Wynn purposely puts aside a number of tables for people willing to pay for this special arrangement.
In other words, screw the masses. Profit rules over 3 hour waits and rumbling stomachs. You wanna eat? You pay, Bro, or move along. Plenty of other sheeple willing to pay.
The food was ok. Fresh and warm where it needs to be, hot where it needs to be, and cold where it should be.
They cannot seat groups greater than 6 so my kids ate together and wife and I had to take another table.
The brunch was $79 and some change per person and it had better food and variety than the best buffet you can find in Hawaii with a similar price or even higher price tag.
Problem with buffets is you cannot eat everything that is offered but most will try (like me). And now it is 8:45 in the evening and I'm still full from the brunch.
The kids went to the Kelly Clarkson concert. Only wife and me tonight. Maybe I'll play craps and try the Buffalo Gold slot machines. Dab in DDB video poker.
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The last buffet i ate at in Vegas was at Main Street Station.
I took my younger daughter for her 21st birthday. She was planning to bring her boyfriend, but they broke up about a week before. He at least had the integrity to pay me back his air fare I'd already paid for a month or more in advance. I gave him the ticket info, which he could still use within 12 months. So, hopefully he used it.
Since we were there for New Year's Eve, the Cal invited us to the NYE party they were hosting for their invited guests.
The entire event was sponsored by Boyd Gaming, including the full buffet, cocktails and door prizes. Most of the prizes were large denomination casino chips, with the grand prize being a trip to Hawaii! They promised if a Hawaii resident won that, they would work out a better arrangement.
Since then, i've been curious about the food situation in LV as my experiences have been that things were changing dramatically. At one point, Mandalay Bay was reported to have the best buffet in LV. Later, it was Bellagio, who held the title for years. Others who were contenders seemed to be closing their buffets down. I had the MGM Seafood buffet once, and i thought it was over priced unless you got medieval on the Alaskan King Crab legs. The problem was, that's what everyone was there for, and you had to wait in line until they eventually brought out more. I know they knew the legs are why everyone was there, but they were stingy in how much they brought out at a time hoping everyone would get tired of waiting and eat something else or leave.
Fremont's buffet was okay. Not overly delicious, but if you used your Vacations Hawaii food coupons, it was very affordable. Not free, but i think about half price IIRC.
As for feeling full, I normally started my day with breakfast at the Cal's Market Street Cafe. Breakfast always seems to be the best value for the money/coupon. Way more than i could eat, plus all the coffee or tea refills I could want.
Then I'd be good until Dinner ... or even later. If I got a little hungry, Fremont's cafe had a couple of good items in their snack bar. I'd go for the $2 shrimp cocktail or the teriyaki beef and rice bowl. That beef was yum-mEE! That held me until sometimes a late dinner.
The amount of food was so plentiful, i actually stopped paying for the coupon book. i'd ask for a discount on my Vacation's package without the food, and I'd just use comps when i got hungry. That also freed me from wanting to eat all my meals in a couple of places just because i had coupons left!
If you had some luck on the games and want to celebrate with a good steak, I recommend Smith & Wollensky on the strip. It's one of those places where they do one thing, and they do it extremely well. The menu is on the wall, written on chalk boards -- usually 3 - 4 main courses. You add the sides you like, and order wine from their world class cellar. If you've never been, it's worth it at least once so you know if you've been missing out.
Top of the Strat is also a great experience, but you have to be okay with tables packed into a small area. The restaurant is on the rotating observation deck. While you enjoy your meal, wine and dessert, you get a fabulous 360 degree view of .... everything around you! Again, you pay for the experience, but the food selection is great and the quality has been just as great when I ate there. Best time is to go just before sunset, so you can watch it while spinning from a great height.
YouToobers from LV always highlight the best places for tacos, burritos, margaritas, happy hours, or places to just get hammered for cheap. Most are well known secret locations, like the taco places that are just off the strip, look like ancient hole in the wall joints, but can have a mile long line of customers waiting to order.
If you want to get the party started, there's an observation wheel called the High Roller at the LINQ. It's 550 ft up, you get your own enclosed "pod" with music and a tended bar, and if you buy the "Happy Half Hour" ticket, you get all you want to drink for the 30 minutes it takes to go a full revolution. Prices for the happy half hour start at $60, but I don't know what's included with it versus higher priced tickets.
High elevations, spinning rides, all you can drink booze -- what could go wrong? :rofl:
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It was ok. They now have 3 lines. One is for the walk-ins with no reservations. The other is for people who made reservations. The third is interesting. It is for people with reservations and opted to pay an additional $100 and change for the privilege of bypassing the masses and go straight in.
So one line had tons of people crammed together with sad, teary eyes and rumbling stomachs which moved an inch in an hour.
Then another line where people with reservations experienced very little wait time.
Then the line where people pay a ton of extra money to go straight in to eat buffet food. I'm a bit perturbed about this arrangement. It feeds right into my gripe about Vegas getting greedy and will push for profits with no shame. This arrangement means the Wynn purposely puts aside a number of tables for people willing to pay for this special arrangement.
In other words, screw the masses. Profit rules over 3 hour waits and rumbling stomachs. You wanna eat? You pay, Bro, or move along. Plenty of other sheeple willing to pay.
The food was ok. Fresh and warm where it needs to be, hot where it needs to be, and cold where it should be.
They cannot seat groups greater than 6 so my kids ate together and wife and I had to take another table.
The brunch was $79 and some change per person and it had better food and variety than the best buffet you can find in Hawaii with a similar price or even higher price tag.
Problem with buffets is you cannot eat everything that is offered but most will try (like me). And now it is 8:45 in the evening and I'm still full from the brunch.
The kids went to the Kelly Clarkson concert. Only wife and me tonight. Maybe I'll play craps and try the Buffalo Gold slot machines. Dab in DDB video poker.
We did both lines. Walk ins and waited 2hrs.
Rsvp and 5 min wait.
What sucks is the gambling floor is far away that it makes it difficult to go back n forth to take turns since u also have to pass everyone in line. Saw 1 bitch not let the guy in, so he just went under the chains. She and her husband left the line cause they didnt want to wait longer. Older guy with at least 20yrs younger wife and 1 kid. He seemed nice, but can tell she runs the show as he didnt speak up. Then cause they got a kid, if he left her, she would prob take at least half his stuff and file for child support as well. I assume he has money due to the age gap and the way she was dressed.
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The kids went to the Kelly Clarkson concert. Only wife and me tonight. Maybe I'll play craps and try the Buffalo Gold slot machines. Dab in DDB video poker.
So my daughters texted my wife and me and said the Kelly Clarkson concert was so good and she was so awesome that they cried....... ::) ::) ::) LOL!
There was a slot open at the Main St. Station craps table so I bought in for $500 on a $15 minimum table. Not quite the bankroll to weather the variance, usually I buy in for $1000 but figured I'd just play the passline, odds, and place the inside numbers for the minimum.
Thanks to an old fut japanese man and a big haole guy, I did pretty well. They both shot really good.
Me? I sucked. Point seven out twice so I just passed on the dice from then on.
But I managed to end up with a profit of $1100 thanks to those two guys and pressing my $15 bets into the green chip level.
I played Buffalo Gold slots but didn't get any love back. When we visited Circa next door the other night I hit a bonus and netted $500. Tonight? No luck.
Same with video poker. Couldn't get no 4 of a kinds and of course the coveted Royal Flush eluded me.
Oh well. Another day. Who knows what will fall upon this degenerate. ;D
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So my daughters texted my wife and me and said the Kelly Clarkson concert was so good and she was so awesome that they cried....... ::) ::) ::) LOL!
There was a slot open at the Main St. Station craps table so I bought in for $500 on a $15 minimum table. Not quite the bankroll to weather the variance, usually I buy in for $1000 but figured I'd just play the passline, odds, and place the inside numbers for the minimum.
Thanks to an old fut japanese man and a big haole guy, I did pretty well. They both shot really good.
Me? I sucked. Point seven out twice so I just passed on the dice from then on.
But I managed to end up with a profit of $1100 thanks to those two guys and pressing my $15 bets into the green chip level.
I played Buffalo Gold slots but didn't get any love back. When we visited Circa next door the other night I hit a bonus and netted $500. Tonight? No luck.
Same with video poker. Couldn't get no 4 of a kinds and of course the coveted Royal Flush eluded me.
Oh well. Another day. Who knows what will fall upon this degenerate. ;D
Nice craps run, well besides the PSO....twice.
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Some guy at mgm signature doing balcony pops this morn. No one injured.
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Some guy at mgm signature doing balcony pops this morn. No one injured.
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What are balcony pops. I suspect it is an extremely dumb and stupid thing to do.
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What are balcony pops. I suspect it is an extremely dumb and stupid thing to do.
45-year-old Jon Letzkus in custody
after shooting at The Signature at MGM Grand
https://channel3now.com/2023/12/31/heavy-police-presence-at-the-signature-at-mgm-grand-after-reports-of-shooting-145-e-harmon-ave-las-vegas/
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Oh well. Another day. Who knows what will fall upon this degenerate. ;D
The fireworks show Downtown was just ok in my opinion. We watched the show from the mezzanine bridge between the California and Main St. Station. I've seen better. In fact, the one daughter who couldn't make the trip texted us a video of the carnage that happened in Mililani last night.
I think the Mililani illegal aerials were better than the Downtown Vegas one, LOL!
I played craps this morning. The usual up and down roller coaster and I ended up losing half of my $1000 dollar buy in.
And as crazy as this seems, I enjoyed the session. I don't think it would have been enjoyable had I been playing with scared money. I've seen this. People playing with scared money are the most miserable beings in this world.
Another thing I knew I would grumble about on this trip and my gripe was supported everywhere: The sea of humanity. I simply hate crowds. I used to tolerate it but I can't anymore. Must be because I have become an old fut.
Also another thing is true: America is a land of fatsos. Everywhere I looked I spotted fatsos that need to hit the gym. Seriously. Not ragging on fatsos. I was one. Decided to do something about it. Now I am as fit as when I was in the military. But not running. My knees are gone.
But yeah. There were a lot of waddlers everywhere.
Another thing: You think you can eat decadently everyday while in Vegas. No way. I'm sick of Prime Rib, Burgers from In-N-out and Shake Shack, Buffets, Cafes, etc. You can only eat so much.
Rant over. Heading over to Market St. Cafe to eat a bowl of Vegetable Ramen. Then probably head out to lose some more money. Whoo Hoo!! :crazy:
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45-year-old Jon Letzkus in custody
after shooting at The Signature at MGM Grand
https://channel3now.com/2023/12/31/heavy-police-presence-at-the-signature-at-mgm-grand-after-reports-of-shooting-145-e-harmon-ave-las-vegas/
Thanks Flapp! :shaka:
I don't know why I had visions of an idiot jumping from one balcony to another.
But yeah. Still an extremely dumb and stupid thing.
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What are balcony pops. I suspect it is an extremely dumb and stupid thing to do.
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I was going to ask what a balcony pop is also. So therefore we had UH pops, cops pops, halawa pops, and I do koko pops.
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What are balcony pops. I suspect it is an extremely dumb and stupid thing to do.
Originates from "desk pop" from the film the Other Guys with Will Ferrel and Marky Mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWZTTtE5_zQ
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The fireworks show Downtown was just ok in my opinion. We watched the show from the mezzanine bridge between the California and Main St. Station. I've seen better. In fact, the one daughter who couldn't make the trip texted us a video of the carnage that happened in Mililani last night.
I think the Mililani illegal aerials were better than the Downtown Vegas one, LOL!
I played craps this morning. The usual up and down roller coaster and I ended up losing half of my $1000 dollar buy in.
And as crazy as this seems, I enjoyed the session. I don't think it would have been enjoyable had I been playing with scared money. I've seen this. People playing with scared money are the most miserable beings in this world.
Another thing I knew I would grumble about on this trip and my gripe was supported everywhere: The sea of humanity. I simply hate crowds. I used to tolerate it but I can't anymore. Must be because I have become an old fut.
Also another thing is true: America is a land of fatsos. Everywhere I looked I spotted fatsos that need to hit the gym. Seriously. Not ragging on fatsos. I was one. Decided to do something about it. Now I am as fit as when I was in the military. But not running. My knees are gone.
But yeah. There were a lot of waddlers everywhere.
Another thing: You think you can eat decadently everyday while in Vegas. No way. I'm sick of Prime Rib, Burgers from In-N-out and Shake Shack, Buffets, Cafes, etc. You can only eat so much.
Rant over. Heading over to Market St. Cafe to eat a bowl of Vegetable Ramen. Then probably head out to lose some more money. Whoo Hoo!! :crazy:
I went to the Tao Day Club and was surprised despite peoples IG pics of it, there were way more fat people there than I would have thought. But it's OK cause "fat people need love too, but they gotta pay" (Family Guy quote).
We enjoy the fast food places you cannot get here as well. Like Chipotle, Panera Bread, and used to be Chik File. The more time I spend sitting down to eat, the less time to gamble.
This is the way I gamble, it's providing entertainment. The day it's no longer entertaining (even when losing), then I stop. IMO, this is what separates a degen gambler from a gambler. Friend went to Hong Kong and nothing but degens there. Not only were they chasing, but looked like zero fun. It's more like business.
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I was going to ask what a balcony pop is also. So therefore we had UH pops, cops pops, halawa pops, and I do koko pops.
You're using the phrase wrong. Gotta me more specific. Notice he says desk pop and not police station pop or building pop. So UH pop would be maybe road pop or car pop.
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You're using the phrase wrong. Gotta me more specific. Notice he says desk pop and not police station pop or building pop. So UH pop would be maybe road pop or car pop.
Did you even watch the movie clip?
"Desk pop" is not "a thing."
Using the term, or a derivative of it (balcony pop), would also be "not a thing."
Is it any wonder nobody else knows what it means?
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Did you even watch the movie clip?
"Desk pop" is not "a thing."
Using the term, or a derivative of it (balcony pop), would also be "not a thing."
Is it any wonder nobody else knows what it means?
:geekdanc: :geekdanc: :geekdanc: :rofl:
Touche.
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Rant over. Heading over to Market St. Cafe to eat a bowl of Vegetable Ramen. Then probably head out to lose some more money. Whoo Hoo!! :crazy:
Yesterday morning I wanted to play craps again. But nobody at the tables. The dealers looked bored. So I went up, said Happy New Year to everybody and bought in for only $600 because we as a family were gonna head out to go to the usual Hawaii people shopping adventure: Go to Trader Joe's for stuff for family back home.
I figure kill time.
Holy shit. I was hot. I was rolling number after number and the chips were coming in so fast I couldn't arrange them in my rack and looked like multi-colored ribbons of red, green, white, and a sprinkling of blacks here and there.
Fun, Fun, Fun!!! I would place a bet for the dealers on the passline with odds along with me. I would roll like a couple of come-out 7's and eleven's and we would win even money and then I would replace their bets again. Then when the point is established I would roll a whole bunch of numbers and then I would make my point as the coup de grace!
The perfect craps player's dream!
Colored out for a $1300 profit for little less than an hour's play. Dealers were very appreciative, I was happy I made money, and all this time I still was playing by myself.
All you craps players out there know this doesn't happen very often. :shaka:
Had to stop because family came down and we needed to head out. Was that a blessing? Who knows. I could have continued to win or most likely would have given it all back if I stayed and played. That is the nature of the dice game.
I'm typing this this morning and now we are headed out to play at the Fremont casino and eat at their new foo-foo food court that replaced their iconic buffet. :(
Our last full day and night in this changed land called Las Vegas.
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When I put bets for the dealers at craps, I always go "play control". This way I can choose to press/parlay if the number its.
Sounds like fun and a very fast payment due to you being the only one. Do you bet ATS?
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When I put bets for the dealers at craps, I always go "play control". This way I can choose to press/parlay if the number its.
Sounds like fun and a very fast payment due to you being the only one. Do you bet ATS?
I've learned to just put $5 on the come out roll for the dealers, usually eleven or the field.
The roll came up 11 more times than I can remember. Really makes the dealers' day/night when a $5 tip gets multiplied 15 times!
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Fun fact
Craps dealers split tips with only craps dealers. They aren't part of the other table games that are combined. Excluding high limit.
1 time I was at the Venetian and saw a reserved craps table. I asked them about it and a high roller is staying with them and they have to be ready when he's ready to play. So they're just standing there. I asked when does he come down and the dealers said "when he feels like it".
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When I put bets for the dealers at craps, I always go "play control". This way I can choose to press/parlay if the number its.
Sounds like fun and a very fast payment due to you being the only one. Do you bet ATS?
I never did, although I heard and read a lot about it. I would play it. Don't quote me, but not sure if the Boyd casinos Downtown offer it. And I've never played craps on the Strip or at the local casinos would you believe, LOL! But I think some casinos Downtown do offer it.
edited to add: I do play at the Orleans, which is considered a locals casino. They offer something like a Repeater or Repeat bet but no ATS. I didn't play there this trip. Maybe they offer ATS now not sure.
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Fun fact
Craps dealers split tips with only craps dealers. They aren't part of the other table games that are combined. Excluding high limit.
1 time I was at the Venetian and saw a reserved craps table. I asked them about it and a high roller is staying with them and they have to be ready when he's ready to play. So they're just standing there. I asked when does he come down and the dealers said "when he feels like it".
Yeah, I saw this arrangement at the Green Valley Ranch Casino. And that High Roller only likes to play by himself.
Another casino I forget which one I think it was Ballys there was this High Roller that would play with the common guys but he demands that one half of the table is for himself only.
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Yeah, I saw this arrangement at the Green Valley Ranch Casino. And that High Roller only likes to play by himself.
Another casino I forget which one I think it was Ballys there was this High Roller that would play with the common guys but he demands that one half of the table is for himself only.
TBH, its no fun playing alone. No one to high five or say ah shit with.
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So anyway, the kids went their own way I think they went shopping and stuff. So wife and I went to Magnolia's at the Four Queens Downtown.
It's a simple cafe like the Market ST. Cafe at the Cal. I've never been there but Danny the Medic of You Tube fame went there and recommend eating their breakfast steak dishes and order a cup of their well known Gumbo.
So I ordered New York Steak and Eggs with simple white rice and a cup of their Gumbo. It was great!! :thumbsup:
Definitely will order it again in future trips.
We gambled a bit playing all kinds of slot machines at Four Queens, Fremont, and Plaza. I lost my ass. ;D Oh well. That's how it goes.
By the way, Fremont Casino went through a renovation recently, getting rid of their buffet and putting in a food court, along with interior renovations. Damn place looks really nice, less crowded, modern looking like the resorts on the Strip.
My wife and I ended up at the Plaza beef jerky place where we easily rang up $150 in beef jerky and snacks to bring home to family. That's nothing compared to what others spend.
Guess wife and I will go back down to give the casino some more of our money...... :rofl:
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Yeah, I saw this arrangement at the Green Valley Ranch Casino. And that High Roller only likes to play by himself.
Another casino I forget which one I think it was Ballys there was this High Roller that would play with the common guys but he demands that one half of the table is for himself only.
Odds are against you for ATS or like bets. But when it hits, its super exciting.
I have hit ATS Nov 2022. This is when I began playing it. Other than that, I've played when the All or Small hit a good number of times thought me playing on a table with the option. For my own XP, I try to keep a mental note of when it hits or not and because I play it all the time, I am ahead a little for this bet. Nothing is more of a buzz kill than others playing it and it hits. As long as it hits once every 30 bets, you break even. In May 23, we were at Place Station after eating at Oyster Bar and Mrs. CMO hit the Small. She just needed the 11 for the Tall and All, but crapped out. That run, because they have $10 tables, my inside bet started at $44 and I ended up profiting $300. It was just the 2 of us on the table. The pit boss there is from Waianae and moved to Vegas about 20 years ago.
The reason why i get worst odds is because I don't play the pass line, so when the 7 hits on the come out, I lose my $15. Vs. being paid on the pass line so you break even.
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So anyway, the kids went their own way I think they went shopping and stuff. So wife and I went to Magnolia's at the Four Queens Downtown.
It's a simple cafe like the Market ST. Cafe at the Cal. I've never been there but Danny the Medic of You Tube fame went there and recommend eating their breakfast steak dishes and order a cup of their well known Gumbo.
So I ordered New York Steak and Eggs with simple white rice and a cup of their Gumbo. It was great!! :thumbsup:
Definitely will order it again in future trips.
We gambled a bit playing all kinds of slot machines at Four Queens, Fremont, and Plaza. I lost my ass. ;D Oh well. That's how it goes.
By the way, Fremont Casino went through a renovation recently, getting rid of their buffet and putting in a food court, along with interior renovations. Damn place looks really nice, less crowded, modern looking like the resorts on the Strip.
My wife and I ended up at the Plaza beef jerky place where we easily rang up $150 in beef jerky and snacks to bring home to family. That's nothing compared to what others spend.
Guess wife and I will go back down to give the casino some more of our money...... :rofl:
Is valet still free at Fremont?
1 trip there, I saw the guard with an empty holster. So I approached him and wispered he's missing his gun. He thanked me for looking out but said he gets it issued in 2 days since he just finished his quals.
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Odds are against you for ATS or like bets. But when it hits, its super exciting.
I have hit ATS Nov 2022. This is when I began playing it. Other than that, I've played when the All or Small hit a good number of times thought me playing on a table with the option. For my own XP, I try to keep a mental note of when it hits or not and because I play it all the time, I am ahead a little for this bet. Nothing is more of a buzz kill than others playing it and it hits. As long as it hits once every 30 bets, you break even. In May 23, we were at Place Station after eating at Oyster Bar and Mrs. CMO hit the Small. She just needed the 11 for the Tall and All, but crapped out. That run, because they have $10 tables, my inside bet started at $44 and I ended up profiting $300. It was just the 2 of us on the table. The pit boss there is from Waianae and moved to Vegas about 20 years ago.
The reason why i get worst odds is because I don't play the pass line, so when the 7 hits on the come out, I lose my $15. Vs. being paid on the pass line so you break even.
Jimmy the Greek made his millions betting on Don't Pass/Don't Come.
He figured, if the odds for those bets favor the house, that's where smart players will put their money.
i see a lot of Hawaii players adopting an interesting strategy. They place "Don't" bets on all the place numbers for the come out roll. If the shooter rolls seven, every one of those numbers pays! If the shooter hits a crap number and the player bet Don't Pass, he wins. If shooter establishes a point, the Don't number loses, and the player moves all the remaining "Don'ts" to "Pass" place bets. i guess the theory is, you make way more money than you lose if 7 hits on the come out more often than not.
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Jimmy the Greek made his millions betting on Don't Pass/Don't Come.
He figured, if the odds for those bets favor the house, that's where smart betters will put their money.
i see a lot of Hawaii players adopting an interesting strategy. They place "Don't" bets on all the place numbers for the come out roll. If the shooter rolls seven, every one of those numbers pays! If the shooter hits a crap number and the player bet Don't Pass, he wins. If shooter establishes a point, the Don't number loses, and the player moves all the remaining "Don'ts" to "Pass" place bets. i guess the theory is, you make way more money than you lose if 7 hits on the come out more often than not.
I play the inside, but if after 2 PSO's in a role or shooters not hitting the inside, I'll then lay the 4 and 10 with enough to almost hedge my bet. So on a $15 table, that's $50 on each. Lay bets are less obvious than don'ts.
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Is valet still free at Fremont?
1 trip there, I saw the guard with an empty holster. So I approached him and wispered he's missing his gun. He thanked me for looking out but said he gets it issued in 2 days since he just finished his quals.
I'm not sure if valet is still free at Fremont. It always was but nowadays things have changed and free parking and free valets that was once taken for granted is almost gone. It could still be free if you get it validated at the Registration Desk if you stay, gamble or dine at the property.
One thing I noticed in all the times I stayed at a Boyd Casino property is that the guards were always men. But on this trip there is a considerable amount of women security guards. All packing heat.
And I must say they are really good looking, physically fit and look like they can kick ass. At the Cal there is this one female security guard with the most beautiful and friendly smile. She greets all the customers with a smile that could melt an ice glacier. :thumbsup:
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I'm not sure if valet is still free at Fremont. It always was but nowadays things have changed and free parking and free valets that was once taken for granted is almost gone. It could still be free if you get it validated at the Registration Desk if you stay, gamble or dine at the property.
One thing I noticed in all the times I stayed at a Boyd Casino property is that the guards were always men. But on this trip there is a considerable amount of women security guards. All packing heat.
And I must say they are really good looking, physically fit and look like they can kick ass. At the Cal there is this one female security guard with the most beautiful and friendly smile. She greets all the customers with a smile that could melt an ice glacier. :thumbsup:
Pic or didn't happen.
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Pic or didn't happen.
I have tonight and tomorrow morning to see if I can take a pic. She'll probably think I'm an old pervert.
I gonna ask permission though. She looks lethal. :rofl:
edited to add: I didn't see her when I went down to play craps. By the way, my session was short. I lost $300 in less than 15 minutes. Even the dealers told us to go take a break. We all listened. :rofl:
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I have tonight and tomorrow morning to see if I can take a pic. She'll probably think I'm an old pervert.
I gonna ask permission though. She looks lethal. :rofl:
edited to add: I didn't see her when I went down to play craps. By the way, my session was short. I lost $300 in less than 15 minutes. Even the dealers told us to go take a break. We all listened. :rofl:
Yeah, when the dealers tell you to take a break, it's best to listen. $300 in 15 mins must have been like 4 PSO's or 2 roll shooters. I usually buy in for $500 and bet $66. Once I hit like half lost or back to back PSO's then I hedge with lay bets. All depends on what number are being thrown.
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So what's everyones starting bet for craps?
I start with table min on the inside (5,6,8,9) and don't play the pass line. Then once I collect from 3 hits, I'm almost even, so depending on how the table is doing, I'll alternate between press and collect every time 1 of my place bets hits. But on a not so good table, I'll just collect. I did the math watching youtubers craps channels and write down how my strategy would have worked out. Pretty much collecting is the way to go as most shooters crap out within 6 throws. And even on a 12 throw, it's still better to collect usually, than pressing. But pressing is fun.
Then if I'm up, I'll place the 4/10 or hardways with $1 and parlay. If the table isn't doing to well, but not cold enough to walk away, I'll then lay the 4 and 10 instead of betting don't pass to hedge my bet. And once my place bets have collected enough, I'll take down my lay bets.
I almost always play the ATS (555).
Since craps is so fluid, the strategy does change after a few shooters or even mid shoot, like if the 4 or 10 are coming up a lot.
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So what's everyones starting bet for craps?
I start with table min on the inside (5,6,8,9) and don't play the pass line. Then once I collect from 3 hits, I'm almost even, so depending on how the table is doing, I'll alternate between press and collect every time 1 of my place bets hits. But on a not so good table, I'll just collect. I did the math watching youtubers craps channels and write down how my strategy would have worked out. Pretty much collecting is the way to go as most shooters crap out within 6 throws. And even on a 12 throw, it's still better to collect usually, than pressing. But pressing is fun.
Then if I'm up, I'll place the 4/10 or hardways with $1 and parlay. If the table isn't doing to well, but not cold enough to walk away, I'll then lay the 4 and 10 instead of betting don't pass to hedge my bet. And once my place bets have collected enough, I'll take down my lay bets.
I almost always play the ATS (555).
Since craps is so fluid, the strategy does change after a few shooters or even mid shoot, like if the 4 or 10 are coming up a lot.
I pretty much play the same way as you. :thumbsup:
Except do lay bets. I should do lay bets.
I would play the ATS. Apparently the Boyd casinos (Downtown anyway) don't offer ATS.
But yeah. On their $15 minimum tables I would buy in for $1000 then play passline, double odds, then go $66 inside, or $51 or $48 inside, depending on what inside number is the point.
Sometimes I bypass the come-out and go $96 across. This is when the shooter is hot but throws a lot of crap numbers before establishing a point. I could hedge on any craps but it's just my preference to do it this way.
But like you mentioned, have a certain strategy but watch the table trends and try to adapt to what is currently happening.
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1 Youtube channel I watch is Hawaii Craps Shooters. These guys are dice setters. They have practice sessions and even have their own table here on Oahu. They are particular about where they play as some tables are more bouncier than others. So even with all these, they still PSO and even PSO a few shooters in a roll. But I would say on average, they roll about 13-17 before crappig out. The odds are 6 throws or less usually.
They even get reserved tables in Vegas and film, which is how I know about the PSO's.
During COVID, I stumbled on craps vids and realzied I was betting by not maximizing my profits. I would only play pass line with 1-3 odds. So when there's a hot shooter, who usually only hits their point 2-4 times, I wasn't making much money due to no place bets. When I hit my ATS, I only made 2 points the entire 45 mins.
Other craps channels I like is Color Up, Casino Quest.
I'm starting to watch Blackjack card counting vids now, but quickly realized I don't have the time to do it. 200+hrs or real practice, then need to live where you can easily access many casino's due to getting "backed off"/trespassed. So being in HI and having to fly isn't economical. Saw a vid of the GVR pit boss and he said he loves card counters, cause 99% think they can do it and can't. They make good money off of these people. And a pro card counter is profitable 55% of the time, they too get bad strings of luck.
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I've always done better with COME bets than place bets. If the table is at least luke-warm, I'll make place bets on the 6 and 8, then make a come bet. Of course, i play the minimum on the PASS, too, with max odds if the max isn't too crazy -- usually 3,4, or 5 times. I try to have just 3 come bets on the numbers at a time, otherwise the typical thing happens -- 6 come bets get wiped out including the odds.
If I do have a lot of come bets working, I make an any 7 bet on the come out rolls which saves my come bets should a 7 hit. Just need enough to cover the original bets -- the odds are not working on the come out, so that's can be a good thing.
I'll make the same odds bets on the come bet when it finds a number. If the 6 and or 8 hit, I use those chips to add the odds to the come bet that replaces it.
All I really need is 3 numbers to hit more than once to be ahead, depending on which numbers. If the 4 and 10 are repeating, it's like an ATM!
If the shooter does the P-SO, i only lose the pass line + odds and the 6 & 8 place bets. But I win the last come bet, which pays me back for one of the place bets.
i try to minimize the amount I will lose while making more when I when. That's the whole attraction with the odds bets -- if you lose the same number of rolls that you win, you will make more than you lose because the odds pay more.
There's a lot to be said for covering all the bets, but when that 7-out comes up, you need to have at least gotten all your buy-in off the table. That's basically my only real strategy. When i get all my money back in the rack, I can start making more/bigger bets to take advantage of a hot roll if it happens.
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Came home last night. Tired. But it was a good trip. Grandson got sick but he soldiered on. He gambled for the first time in his life by playing slots but was a bit intimidated to play table games. I tried to coax him into the craps game but he said he lacked confidence and I could tell he didn't want to do it. So I didn't force him. He has his whole life to go to Vegas. It will always be there when he's ready.
At the Fashion Show Mall there is a store called Casino Quest. It sells gambling paraphernalia and also offers people a chance to learn table games in a casino setting but no money involved. They charge $25 an hr. per person to learn table games like pai gow, blackjack, 3 card poker, craps, etc.
My youngest daughter and wife wanted to learn pai gow so they signed up and included my grandson but he was really sick that day so I replaced him even though I don't like to play card games. But it was a fun learning experience. Then my son-in-law wanted to learn craps so we all signed up for that and the guy taught us strategies and the more sophisticated types of bets. I signed up because even though I play craps I wanted to learn more about betting the dark side which I never do.
Here are some things where Vegas has changed for the worse since the scam-demic (in my opinion).
Resort Fees. This is everywhere. A Bullsh*t excuse to make it seem as if the room prices are cheap and attractive. Especially the California Hotel. Charging a Resort Fee? I hardly consider this Downtown property a "Resort". ::)
Table games not available 24/7. This is not true of all casinos but still happening here and there. Particularly in the early mornings.
Also the amount of table games available. The Cal used to have 5 in their craps pit. Now they have 3. Main St. used to have 3. Now they have 2. And with all their table games at Main St., it is only available on FRI-SUN 9am to 1am. So if your trip is only Mon. to Thurs. you are out of luck.
Restaurants with limited menus and limited operating hours. Not all of them but enough where you have to plan your schedule for dinner. Reservations are best whereas before it wasn't that much of an importance.
The premium Buffet prices require a 2nd mortgage. :rofl:
The Player Rewards program sucks, especially the Boyd Properties (California, Main St., Fremont Downtown) and also their other properties.
Parking everywhere in the past used to be free at the major casinos. Now it is the opposite. Parking on the strip ranges from $18 to $30 depending on the property. Not too much of a big deal for me personally but it was a nice perk before.
There is this one thing I noticed that is not only prevalent in Vegas but everywhere there are throngs of people in confined spaces: Lack of consideration for others and the increased presence of obese people waddling all over the place.
Maybe I'm just becoming a grumpy old man but it seems like it got worse tenfold. There is no consideration anymore. Everyone in Vegas seemed to have an entitlement syndrome. I noticed this also last year on our trip to Disney. As far as the waddlers? Nothing can be done. Vegas is all about excess. Food is everywhere and in large amounts. All you can eat, but remember the 2nd mortgage, LOL!
Not sure when me and wife can return. 2024 brings 2 new newborns to my brood. One already born and another to arrive in June. Me and wife already were asked to do babysitting duties. Oh well, my parents did the same for me and now it's my turn to help my kids.
Mamma and Pappa to the rescue!
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i try to minimize the amount I will lose while making more when I when. That's the whole attraction with the odds bets -- if you lose the same number of rolls that you win, you will make more than you lose because the odds pay more.
This makes it sound so easy. Everytime I hear about a strategy, I have to remind myself that if it were full proof, then the casino's would pull it.
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At the Fashion Show Mall there is a store called Casino Quest. It sells gambling paraphernalia and also offers people a chance to learn table games in a casino setting but no money involved. They charge $25 an hr. per person to learn table games like pai gow, blackjack, 3 card poker, craps, etc.
Casino Quest=CEG Dealer School
I watch their youtube. THey try diff strategies for craps, roulette, and BJ. Plus they're very entertaining. Met Alex and Daddy David both times we visited their store. They are also a dealer school that's off strip, but will soon be moving to the Fashion Show.
For roulette, which I never play, their Romanowski strat looked good. YOu're invested $200 and win $25 each spin with a 96% chance of winning (lose only if 1 of 6 numbers hit) . So I tried this and guess what...got wacked on the first roll or on the 2nd or 3rd. So being down $200 each wack and winning only $25 per spin, you can see it takes many spins just to break even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH03QXPiQvw
After losing $1K just on this over a 2 day trial, I gave up. Many dealers never heard of this and they agreed it sounds good on paper. Until they saw me getting wacked. So this shows, even if there are better odds in your favor, you still need luck.
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it works if the game isn't rigged...
Casino Quest=CEG Dealer School
I watch their youtube. THey try diff strategies for craps, roulette, and BJ. Plus they're very entertaining. Met Alex and Daddy David both times we visited their store. They are also a dealer school that's off strip, but will soon be moving to the Fashion Show.
For roulette, which I never play, their Romanowski strat looked good. YOu're invested $200 and win $25 each spin with a 96% chance of winning (lose only if 1 of 6 numbers hit) . So I tried this and guess what...got wacked on the first roll or on the 2nd or 3rd. So being down $200 each wack and winning only $25 per spin, you can see it takes many spins just to break even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH03QXPiQvw
After losing $1K just on this over a 2 day trial, I gave up. Many dealers never heard of this and they agreed it sounds good on paper. Until they saw me getting wacked. So this shows, even if there are better odds in your favor, you still need luck.
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Casino Quest=CEG Dealer School
I watch their youtube. THey try diff strategies for craps, roulette, and BJ. Plus they're very entertaining. Met Alex and Daddy David both times we visited their store. They are also a dealer school that's off strip, but will soon be moving to the Fashion Show.
For roulette, which I never play, their Romanowski strat looked good. YOu're invested $200 and win $25 each spin with a 96% chance of winning (lose only if 1 of 6 numbers hit) . So I tried this and guess what...got wacked on the first roll or on the 2nd or 3rd. So being down $200 each wack and winning only $25 per spin, you can see it takes many spins just to break even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH03QXPiQvw
After losing $1K just on this over a 2 day trial, I gave up. Many dealers never heard of this and they agreed it sounds good on paper. Until they saw me getting wacked. So this shows, even if there are better odds in your favor, you still need luck.
Alex was the one teaching us Craps. :thumbsup:
Agree about Roulette. If luck is with you it's tons of fun. If not, oh sh*t....... :o But I like playing roulette. My wife loves to play it and tries all kinds of strategies. So much fun watching her.
Me? I just keep betting black and drink. :rofl:
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The premium Buffet prices require a 2nd mortgage. :rofl:
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Clark, it's "All You Can Eat." We only need one plate.
-- Eddie Johnson, Vegas Vacation
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Clark, it's "All You Can Eat." We only need one plate.
-- Eddie Johnson, Vegas Vacation
:rofl:
Another gripe about Vegas Buffets: Gone are the days where there is one line and everyone suffers 3 hour waits. :rofl:
As I mentioned earlier, at the premium buffets like Wynn and Baccanal, if you don't have a reservation or are willing to pay a 3rd mortgage to bypass all the lines, you will die of starvation in the regular walk-in line.
Watching the sea of starving sheeple hardly moving inches in an hour, I envisioned some of them collapsing from hunger and the rest feeding on their buttocks and palms of their hands. (These are the tenderest portions of the human body).
Or so I'm told. ;D
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This makes it sound so easy. Everytime I hear about a strategy, I have to remind myself that if it were full proof, then the casino's would pull it.
It's not about being "fool proof." It's about managing your bankroll, playing smart and setting limits.
Yeah, if you're there for 2-3 days and are dreaming of hitting the Mega-Bucks, holding the dice for 2 hours or finding that one-in-a-million blackjack table where you win 98% of your hands, then you are going to make bigger bets and stay longer than you should.
But, if you walk up to a craps table with a $250 budget, don't pull more money out when that's gone thinking the next shooter will win it all back for you.
Same for slots. Put $100 in a machne and play the max bet (hopefully you picked a $2 or $3 max bet machine). When you have more than you started with, think about a good stopping point. If you were down and now are even, probably a good idea to take your refund and pick another machine. Staying at the same machine just guarantees you'll eventually lose your initial buy-in and everything you won chasing jackpots.
Blackjack requires you to pick a table where you can afford at least 10 times the minimum bet which is about what you can hope to play on for an hour. So, a $25 table needs a minimum $250 buy-in. When that buy-in is gone, take a break or pick a better table. Leave the wallet in your pocket -- no additional buy-ins (except for that 4-way split with double-downs that always seems to happen on your last hand! :rofl: ). I once watched a woman dump over $40K at a blackjack table in Binion's. I had played next to her for a couple of hours, and the next time she asked for a marker, I left for breakfast. When I finished eating, i saw a loud crowd around her table. In the 45 minutes I was gone, she'd won back over $40K playing max bet ($500). It took her 7 hours to lose it, and less than an hour to win it back. I gave her an attaboy as I walked by, but i kept walking. i didn't want to see if she was okay with winning all that money back, or if she thought her streak would get her another $40K. I know what the odds were, and streaks don't last.
Imagine if that lady had set a limit of losing $250 each hour. She would have been down $1750. Then when the streak hit, she'd be up $38,250 or more -- not just breaking even after a $40K losing marathon.
I've walked into a blackjack game where the dealer could not win a hand -- busted more times than got beat by the players. I bought in for $200 and walked away with over $1800 in about 30 minutes. As soon as a new dealer came in and I lost 2 hands, I cashed out and went to bed. That's happened several times. It's best when it happens your first day gambling. Then you're not so eager to lose it as quickly the rest of the trip thinking you have to win it all back.
I do enjoy the games, but my limits keep me from losing more than I intended. My worst losses were gambling with someone I'm on vacation with, and they are winning. So, I stay in the game longer than I should have just to be sociable and also to make sure i don't get blamed for the table turning bad when i left. It's tough sometimes to stick to your "rules" when gambling with others, so it's best to play at lower limit tables where you can avoid big losses.
I don't normally come back from Vegas down. I either break even or at least win enough to recoup the cost of the trip. I had my shot at the "millions", and I kept tabs on my spending.
Luck is an undeniable element in gaming, no matter what "professionals" say. If I'm winning on slots, i'm losing on table games. So I stick to what's working until it doesn't. I've lost $1000 in a day on table games, and won it all back on a $1 Wheel of Fortune machine. I've also won $300 playing BJ, lost it in the slots, and went right back to the same table and won it all back again.
As I said, i took my younger daughter for her 21st birthday. We ate at the Hard Rock, and after, I handed her $200 and said go find a machine you like.
15 minutes later, she found me looking all confused. She asked, "Is this real -- like dollars?" She showed me a cash-out ticket for over $2100!
Yeah, it's better to be lucky than good!
:geekdanc: :thumbsup:
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As I said, i took my younger daughter for her 21st birthday. We ate at the Hard Rock, and after, I handed her $200 and said go find a machine you like.
15 minutes later, she found me looking all confused. She asked, "Is this real -- like dollars?" She showed me a cash-out ticket for over $2100!
Yeah, it's better to be lucky than good!
:geekdanc: :thumbsup:
:rofl:
I just love an innocent first time gambler! :thumbsup:
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So no one mentions D Lucky?
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So no one mentions D Lucky?
I went to Google and typed in "Who or what is D Lucky?" :rofl:
Sorry. Had no idea who or what it was. Now I know. I think my brother-in-law would probably know this person and follows him on instagram. My brother-in-law is a 99.9% slot player. The other .1% he plays video poker. Very badly. :rofl:
He watches the YT slot stars that play and post their winnings on Vegas trips. I swear I see the saliva dripping down his mouth as he watches...... :rofl:
Me, I play slots when the craps tables are full or I took a beating at craps or I don't "feel it" to play. I must admit I like playing the Buffalo Gold slots. I won some and lost some on Buffalo Gold. It is addicting.
I also like to play those older single line 3-reel mechanical slots like Red White and Blue, Double Triple Stars, Double Gold and others like it.
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Since we ate breakfast at CrackerBarrel one day the Bass Pro Shops was close by so I told my family lets go browse in there then check out the Silverton Casino next door. Silverton has an aquarium that would interest my 10 yr. old granddaughter and Bass Pro Shops have a bass aquarium where they test out the lures they sell and also a sturgeon fish in one of their ponds.
Turned out the sturgeon wasn't there. Did it die or did someone eat it. Anyway the family found some cool stuff for those back home.
Me? I checked out the firearms section. Lots of people looking at handguns. Not so much long guns. I checked the ammunition shelves. Lots of .22 LR and magnum. Mostly CCI and Federal. Lots of hunting calibers and shotgun shells.
No 9mm or 5.56/.223 to be found anywhere.
Didn't check out Academy or other places. I wasn't the one driving.
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I went to Google and typed in "Who or what is D Lucky?" :rofl:
Sorry. Had no idea who or what it was. Now I know. I think my brother-in-law would probably know this person and follows him on instagram. My brother-in-law is a 99.9% slot player. The other .1% he plays video poker. Very badly. :rofl:
He watches the YT slot stars that play and post their winnings on Vegas trips. I swear I see the saliva dripping down his mouth as he watches...... :rofl:
Me, I play slots when the craps tables are full or I took a beating at craps or I don't "feel it" to play. I must admit I like playing the Buffalo Gold slots. I won some and lost some on Buffalo Gold. It is addicting.
I also like to play those older single line 3-reel mechanical slots like Red White and Blue, Double Triple Stars, Double Gold and others like it.
Some say he's a scammer. But I say he's good at marketing. He's mainly on IG. He only post his winners for high limit slots. You have to pay him $1700 and he tells you what slot to play. You must use your own money and he doesn't accept tip. He does only post his winners because there is no way he has only winners, because the casinos would ban him.
What he does provide is the opportunity for people to bet high limit who would have never done it on their own. Many of his vids are like $50-$200 a spin on Top Dollar, Pinball, or Dragon link type games and the person hits within $1K. The winnigs are like $5K+. Many HI people book him. He's allowed to film and I HI guy won $100K on Top Dollar, off a $200 a spin bet.
Many of these people aren't gamblers as he used to ask if they play slots and most say no or very little. Which tells me they don't understand the Random Number Generator (RMG).
He makes you sign a NDA that you cannot talk about your experience and stuff like that. I would never #1 pay to have someone tell me what to play and #2 sign a NDA about it. If you watch his vids, you can see he plays the same type of games. So take that $1700 and spend it on said slots. I know 3 people who booked him. 1 won $8K. The other lost all, but after their $2K buy in ran out, he gave them another $1K to play of his own money. And the 3rd won $2K. But remember, minus the $1700 booking fee and taxes.
Some vids he will put money in for the player if they lose all theirs. Again, marketing.
Then he's trying to branch out to Blackjack. All it is is that he's martingaling. But gain, most don't gamble, so they don't know any better. And he again provides the opportunity for people to bet high limit. The bets are like $100-$1400 a hand.
1 guy did post his XP on IG, but deleted it shortly after. Bascially D Lucky has like 5-10 people waiting in the high limit slots for him to show up. You can tell they're all waiting for him. Each is suppsoed to have a 15 min time slot. But when you bring $5K and at $200 a spin, you know that's depleted in less than 5 mins. He doesnt' allow you to film nor another person to be with you. If you do want someone to be with you, they have to pay like $300. What this guy saw was that all 6 people lost. So the casino made at least $15K in 30 mins. Which is why they allow him to do what he does.
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Some say he's a scammer. But I say he's good at marketing. He's mainly on IG. He only post his winners for high limit slots. You have to pay him $1700 and he tells you what slot to play. You must use your own money and he doesn't accept tip. He does only post his winners because there is no way he has only winners, because the casinos would ban him.
What he does provide is the opportunity for people to bet high limit who would have never done it on their own. Many of his vids are like $50-$200 a spin on Top Dollar, Pinball, or Dragon link type games and the person hits within $1K. The winnigs are like $5K+. Many HI people book him. He's allowed to film and I HI guy won $100K on Top Dollar, off a $200 a spin bet.
Many of these people aren't gamblers as he used to ask if they play slots and most say no or very little. Which tells me they don't understand the Random Number Generator (RMG).
He makes you sign a NDA that you cannot talk about your experience and stuff like that. I would never #1 pay to have someone tell me what to play and #2 sign a NDA about it. If you watch his vids, you can see he plays the same type of games. So take that $1700 and spend it on said slots. I know 3 people who booked him. 1 won $8K. The other lost all, but after their $2K buy in ran out, he gave them another $1K to play of his own money. And the 3rd won $2K. But remember, minus the $1700 booking fee and taxes.
Some vids he will put money in for the player if they lose all theirs. Again, marketing.
Then he's trying to branch out to Blackjack. All it is is that he's martingaling. But gain, most don't gamble, so they don't know any better. And he again provides the opportunity for people to bet high limit. The bets are like $100-$1400 a hand.
1 guy did post his XP on IG, but deleted it shortly after. Bascially D Lucky has like 5-10 people waiting in the high limit slots for him to show up. You can tell they're all waiting for him. Each is suppsoed to have a 15 min time slot. But when you bring $5K and at $200 a spin, you know that's depleted in less than 5 mins. He doesnt' allow you to film nor another person to be with you. If you do want someone to be with you, they have to pay like $300. What this guy saw was that all 6 people lost. So the casino made at least $15K in 30 mins. Which is why they allow him to do what he does.
Sounds like he uses his own player's card on the machines others play so he gets the comps, but I could be wrong?
I don't watch slots on YT. Too many dog and cat videos to compete with, and just as educational. :geekdanc:
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Sounds like he uses his own player's card on the machines others play so he gets the comps, but I could be wrong?
I don't watch slots on YT. Too many dog and cat videos to compete with, and just as educational. :geekdanc:
He makes you use yours. Often the vids show that he tells them to put their players card in as they forget. Again not slot players, cause a slot player it's automatic to put your card in. He also helps them when the card light is still red. Again, noobs so they don't understand that the red light means to insert your card until it turns green.
The slot vids I do enjoy are ItsVegasMatt as he plays high limit and post his losses. He bascially plays until he wins a bonus. He has the bankroll to do so. I used to watch VegasLowRoller, but got bored after 2 years. I met him once also. I was leaving the convenience store in the Palazzo and saw him playing alone with no camera. He was happy to take a pic with me.
Other vegas YT'ers have branched out to slots like Pompise and JacobsLifeinVegas (adrenalineslots), but they're not as entertaining.
1 good thing covid brought was casinos allowing people to film gambling. Esp for HI people to watch cause we have zero forms of gambling here.
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1 good thing covid brought was casinos allowing people to film gambling. Esp for HI people to watch cause we have zero legal forms of gambling here.
FIFY
I like that he's teaching them to get the comps. That's one way to minimize the damage to their wallets. :thumbsup:
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Since we ate breakfast at CrackerBarrel one day the Bass Pro Shops was close by so I told my family lets go browse in there then check out the Silverton Casino next door. Silverton has an aquarium that would interest my 10 yr. old granddaughter and Bass Pro Shops have a bass aquarium where they test out the lures they sell and also a sturgeon fish in one of their ponds.
Turned out the sturgeon wasn't there. Did it die or did someone eat it. Anyway the family found some cool stuff for those back home.
Me? I checked out the firearms section. Lots of people looking at handguns. Not so much long guns. I checked the ammunition shelves. Lots of .22 LR and magnum. Mostly CCI and Federal. Lots of hunting calibers and shotgun shells.
No 9mm or 5.56/.223 to be found anywhere.
Didn't check out Academy or other places. I wasn't the one driving.
For ammo, we go to Ventura Munition. Their MRE's store is next door also. I was able to find the Pizza MRE.
Ive noticed that Bass Pro is expensive for ammo.But they have a huge selection of grills and gun safes. Too bad HI doesn' t have this.
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Now that you talked about D Lucky I remember my brother and sister in law mentioning him. The name just never connected until you described how he operates.
I think my in laws want to try it but there is no way in hell they have that kind of money, lol!
The amount of money you have to put up front is what my inlaws bankroll is for the whole trip. :rofl:
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For ammo, we go to Ventura Munition. Their MRE's store is next door also. I was able to find the Pizza MRE.
Ive noticed that Bass Pro is expensive for ammo.But they have a huge selection of grills and gun safes. Too bad HI doesn' t have this.
Yep. Prices were high, even for 22 LR. I was hoping they had Federal Punch 22 LR. But all they had that was close to that was Stingers and they had only 4- 50 ct. boxes on the shelf. No Velocitors.
I was going to buy the Stingers but heard that sometimes they cause problems in autos but are great for revolvers.
Yeah, I like visiting Bass Pro while in Vegas. So much sh*t to look at. :shaka:
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Now that you talked about D Lucky I remember my brother and sister in law mentioning him. The name just never connected until you described how he operates.
I think my in laws want to try it but there is no way in hell they have that kind of money, lol!
The amount of money you have to put up front is what my inlaws bankroll is for the whole trip. :rofl:
They must watch his vids. So tell them just go to the Wynn and play Top Dollar or Pinball for $200 a spin. Save the $1700 fee. Cause even if they win a $2K jackpot, after taxes it's like $1500 and they're still down assuming they got the bonus on the 1st spin.
Explain RNG. I did this with a few friends and they didn't book him.
I budgeted $1K for Pinball at Resorts World. $200 a spin. 1st spin I got Bar, Bar, Bar. Which is $1K. So profit of $800. But I was there to get the pinball bonus. So I spent that, plus my $1K. I have no regrets doing so. Had I walked away with the $800 profit, I would be regretting it til today.
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NV now allows human compost.
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NV now allows human compost.
Are you talking about human waste used for composting,
or compost using humans?
I sense a Soylent Green reference about to drop!
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Are you talking about human waste used for composting,
or compost using humans?
I sense a Soylent Green reference about to drop!
Humans
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Humans
Do they have to already be deceased?
Asking for a friend ....
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That's a great idea.
Vegas being dry heat and all.....
wait. that's not right. we want compost. not beef jerky.
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Do they have to already be deceased?
Asking for a friend ....
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That's a great idea.
Vegas being dry heat and all.....
wait. that's not right. we want compost. not beef jerky.
Maybe the mob has run out of space in the desert. "dammit Tony, we dug another hole and there's already a body in it. Lake Mead water level might go down again too. Where else can we bury?"
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I read somewhere that North Koreans use their poop to fertilize their fields.
With not enough food to go around and starvation a common condition, there probably isn't enough poop to do the job.
Maybe Kim Jong Un and his "elites" can chip in. Those guys are nice and plump and have proven to be full of shiite.
Garan Ball Barans the produce come out nice, fresh, green, and nutritious.
All that Lobster, crab, sashimi, steak, and escargot crap will do the trick.
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Also the city passed ordinance for stopping on a walkway. F1, surely had nothing to do with this...
ACLU is already getting ready to get involved to challenge this.
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You may face arrest if you stop someone from walking in certain areas of The Strip.
You can stop walking to take in the view, snap a selfie, or look at Google Maps to find your destination.
However, if by stopping you cause someone else to also stop walking, then you are breaking the law.
https://youtu.be/godWGGrZBOs
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Shot Show is this week. We went to Vegas a few years ago during Shot SHow and didn't know it was on. Maybe 2022 or 2021, but the venue was emptier than normal. S&W had a booth with banner and stuff, but no one manning it or products in it.
It's at the Sands Convention Center, which is next to Palazzo/Venetian. The after party is typically at the Venetian bar in the middle of the casino. We didn't see any famous gun people, but a few CCWing. Even though they ban guns on the property, their security isn't scanning people and making them check their firearm. But they do X-ray bags if left with the bell hop. Even gun parts (mags included) and ammo are banned on the property and you must check them in with security.
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You may face arrest if you stop someone from walking in certain areas of The Strip.
You can stop walking to take in the view, snap a selfie, or look at Google Maps to find your destination.
However, if by stopping you cause someone else to also stop walking, then you are breaking the law.
https://youtu.be/godWGGrZBOs
The pedestrian walkways can be a madhouse to cross. The walkway bridge from NYNY had a person with a karaoke machine and he was singing at the top of his lungs (and he was a horrible singer). Granted he set up his machine and table on the side but even that obstruction of space made it a pita to navigate for the crowds of people. This was besides the couple of homeless with cardboard signs asking for handouts.
The Caesar to Bellagio bridge had that 3 card monty card game puke who set up his table more towards the middle of the overpass. That caused really big problems and a bottleneck, forcing people to stop and see wtf he was doing.
And again there was the couple of homeless with cardboard signs......
Street level has a lot of the showgirls, costumed characters, and hip hop pukes clogging the walkways by Bellagio Fountains and around Planet Hollywood areas.
By the Fountains there is a hip-hop group that actually asks the people for a $20 donation...........
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The pedestrian walkways can be a madhouse to cross. The walkway bridge from NYNY had a person with a karaoke machine and he was singing at the top of his lungs (and he was a horrible singer). Granted he set up his machine and table on the side but even that obstruction of space made it a pita to navigate for the crowds of people. This was besides the couple of homeless with cardboard signs asking for handouts.
The Caesar to Bellagio bridge had that 3 card monty card game puke who set up his table more towards the middle of the overpass. That caused really big problems and a bottleneck, forcing people to stop and see wtf he was doing.
And again there was the couple of homeless with cardboard signs......
Street level has a lot of the showgirls, costumed characters, and hip hop pukes clogging the walkways by Bellagio Fountains and around Planet Hollywood areas.
By the Fountains there is a hip-hop group that actually asks the people for a $20 donation...........
I'm wondering if they can fine the people who are responsible for fixing the escalators on the walkways?
Seems nonfunctioning escalators cause more "stopping and standing" than the barkers trying to sell attraction tickets and VIP club access passes.
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cool story, bro...
Shot Show is this week. We went to Vegas a few years ago during Shot SHow and didn't know it was on. Maybe 2022 or 2021, but the venue was emptier than normal. S&W had a booth with banner and stuff, but no one manning it or products in it.
It's at the Sands Convention Center, which is next to Palazzo/Venetian. The after party is typically at the Venetian bar in the middle of the casino. We didn't see any famous gun people, but a few CCWing. Even though they ban guns on the property, their security isn't scanning people and making them check their firearm. But they do X-ray bags if left with the bell hop. Even gun parts (mags included) and ammo are banned on the property and you must check them in with security.
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Shot Show is this week. We went to Vegas a few years ago during Shot SHow and didn't know it was on. Maybe 2022 or 2021, but the venue was emptier than normal. S&W had a booth with banner and stuff, but no one manning it or products in it.
It's at the Sands Convention Center, which is next to Palazzo/Venetian. The after party is typically at the Venetian bar in the middle of the casino. We didn't see any famous gun people, but a few CCWing. Even though they ban guns on the property, their security isn't scanning people and making them check their firearm. But they do X-ray bags if left with the bell hop. Even gun parts (mags included) and ammo are banned on the property and you must check them in with security.
I wouldn't mind attending this. Do you think it's worth it? Like you mentioned, it seems less and less participation lately. But I still would go.
Maybe Danny the Medic, that Food and Travel Vlogger would do a review of it. ;D He did a video on the AVN convention recently. That guy is pretty funny and I believe he has a CCW license.
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I'm wondering if they can fine the people who are responsible for fixing the escalators on the walkways?
Seems nonfunctioning escalators cause more "stopping and standing" than the barkers trying to sell attraction tickets and VIP club access passes.
Yeah, those darn escalators on the Strip. Seems like they are always not working. I read somewhere that escalators and environments like Vegas (desert with fine dust kicked around by winds) do not mix.
And why is it (or is just my bad luck) that when they are half-working it's always the one going up that is broken...... :grrr:
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I wouldn't mind attending this. Do you think it's worth it? Like you mentioned, it seems less and less participation lately. But I still would go.
Maybe Danny the Medic, that Food and Travel Vlogger would do a review of it. ;D He did a video on the AVN convention recently. That guy is pretty funny and I believe he has a CCW license.
It's not open to the general public. You have to be in the industry to get tickets or know someone who is and they send you as their "rep".
They do have gun shows though, but from what I've heard, they're like swap meets. But still better than HI's gun shows. Since inventory and ammo is so available at the gun stores, many stores don't even bother to go to the local gun shows.
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The pedestrian walkways can be a madhouse to cross. The walkway bridge from NYNY had a person with a karaoke machine and he was singing at the top of his lungs (and he was a horrible singer). Granted he set up his machine and table on the side but even that obstruction of space made it a pita to navigate for the crowds of people. This was besides the couple of homeless with cardboard signs asking for handouts.
The Caesar to Bellagio bridge had that 3 card monty card game puke who set up his table more towards the middle of the overpass. That caused really big problems and a bottleneck, forcing people to stop and see wtf he was doing.
And again there was the couple of homeless with cardboard signs......
Street level has a lot of the showgirls, costumed characters, and hip hop pukes clogging the walkways by Bellagio Fountains and around Planet Hollywood areas.
By the Fountains there is a hip-hop group that actually asks the people for a $20 donation...........
It's already against the law to do all of these. But this city ordinance (not state law), now makes it illegal for a regular person to stop.
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Wanted to add that the elevator serving the bridge between NYNY and MGM was not working when we were there. Wonder if there could be issues about that, especially for ADA people.
Forget which overpass bridge it was but my youngest daughter (pregnant) was getting tired and the escalators weren't working. Me and wifey braved the escalators and climbed it but daughter and son in law waited for the elevator. When it arrived there was a homeless sitting in the corner of it and of course he had his hand-out cardboard sign. These elevators are not big so that puke was definitely causing a hindrance by sitting down in the corner of it.
Daughter looked at son in law and said, "Lets climb the escalators."
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It's already against the law to do all of these. But this city ordinance (not state law), now makes it illegal for a regular person to stop.
I think that's the point. They can't always keep the people stopping you from being there, but if they can keep you from stopping and possibly parting with some of your cash, then they effectively eliminated the incentive for street "hustlers" to be there.
Reduce the hustling by reducing the demand.
Hey, it worked for illegal drugs, so why not?
If nothing else, the police department can use the fines and cash they seize under civil asset forfeiture to make Vegas safer.
'You say you won all this money? We're going to keep it anyway until you can prove it's not proceeds from criminal activity."
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It's already against the law to do all of these. But this city ordinance (not state law), now makes it illegal for a regular person to stop.
Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification. I thought they just made the law more specific and would start to (finally) crack down on it. Seems like there were no enforcement whatsoever.
And I wonder if there will be problems with this new ordinance. Lots of people do stop to take selfies or to take pics of the Strip and now they also stop to take pics of that new Sphere attraction.
But some people do their best to move off to the side to do this. At least they're trying. Then there are the "all about me and I don't care I'm in Vegas" crowd who are just assholes and are no worse than the buskers and panhandlers.
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I think that's the point. They can't always keep the people stopping you from being there, but if they can keep you from stopping and possibly parting with some of your cash, then they effectively eliminated the incentive for street "hustlers" to be there.
Reduce the hustling by reducing the demand.
Hey, it worked for illegal drugs, so why not?
If nothing else, the police department can use the fines and cash they seize under civil asset forfeiture to make Vegas safer.
'You say you won all this money? We're going to keep it anyway until you can prove it's not proceeds from criminal activity."
Due to the timing of the ordinance, it was passed due to F1. F1 doesn't want any non-paying on lookers. They messed up when putting the tinting on the overpasses, they did so from the inside. Which made it accessable for people to peel/scratch it off. Had they put it on the outside, then there would'nt be this issue.
Then they have people who were riding up and down the escalaters in circles so they can watch. Guess an ordinance on this was too difficult to pass.
Bascially, F1 got everything they wanted from Vegas, even the additional $40 million for the roads, which in the begining, F1 said they would take care of all road cost.
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Oh, I see. Thanks for the clarification. I thought they just made the law more specific and would start to (finally) crack down on it. Seems like there were no enforcement whatsoever.
And I wonder if there will be problems with this new ordinance. Lots of people do stop to take selfies or to take pics of the Strip and now they also stop to take pics of that new Sphere attraction.
But some people do their best to move off to the side to do this. At least they're trying. Then there are the "all about me and I don't care I'm in Vegas" crowd who are just assholes and are no worse than the buskers and panhandlers.
This is 1 of the main arguments, is that Metro doesn't have time to enforce this silly thing. Compared to a 3 card monte or like person stopping and doing something. Recent years, Metro cannot even stop a homeless person from sleeping on the median island of the street. I mean a cop could ask, but they don't really do this much anymore. So like most laws, it's up to the cops discression. I've seen metro walk buy guys sitting on card board outside Harrahs. And I've also seen cops asking them to keep it moving.
The homeless figured out the property lines as well, because before casino security would be often seen telling people to leave. But over the years, I rarely see this now.
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Trump and BIden both gonna be in Vegas on sat.
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let's get ready to RUMBLE!!!
Trump and BIden both gonna be in Vegas on sat.
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NV is leaning more blue as the years go. They were considered purple before. Right now their senate and house are blue, but their Governor is red. They also aren't like HI where both senate and house are 90% blue. NV is more like just over 50%. WHich means they will have a very difficult time challenging a veto by the governor (66% vote needed to overturn a veto).
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Trump will be holding his rallies in Allegiant Stadium.
biden will hold his at the California Hotel Ballroom. (the smallest one.)
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I came across a new craps strategy. They interviewed a dealer and he said he's seen this as the only strategy that is consistent. So far I've tried it via watching vids and using the dice rolls, my craps game on my phone (From Casino QUest), and by rolling my dice at home. So far it checks out.
It's basically the same betting that I do, which is the inside place bets. But a regression system. $440 on the inside ($100 on 5 and 9; $120 on 6 and 8). After the first hit, you get paid $140. You then regress to $220 on the inside place bets ($50 on 5 and 9; $60 on 6/8). When this hits, you get paid $70. You then regress to $110 on the inside ($25 on 5/9; $30 on 6/8). At this point, you're now up $100 and can press or collect or do what ever you want when more inside #"s hit. The major downfall is the $440 up front. If someone PSO's or doesn't hit at least 1 inside number, you're down a lot. If they crap out after only hitting 1 inside, you're now down $80: which isn't that bad.
Compare this to me playing the inside and not regressing, it takes about 3 place bet hits to get almost even, regardless of how much I'm betting.
1 advantage is you can play this system almost anywhere since many places now have only $25 tables. Even the Venetian has 1 $15 table, but usually it's full on the weekends, which means only the $25 tables have spots open.
From the various trials I did, even after getting wacked, I was still able to come back slowly and win $100 at a time to cover the loss of $440. In my trials, I've typically crapped out before hitting that 3rd inside number. Which means I would be down a little very time I played. Again, the major hole in this strategy is the PSO. Which I've been on tables often where 3 guys in a rolll PSO. Which would mean I'd be down over $1200.
I think our next trip to Vegas, I'll allocate $1200 for this strategy to see how it does in real life. I've allocated $1K doing a Romanowski on Roulette and lost it all ($200 each bet). And blew $1K on Top Dollar at RR with $200 a spin (DLucky wannabe). So to allocate $1200 for this doesn't seem that bad.
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I came across a new craps strategy. They interviewed a dealer and he said he's seen this as the only strategy that is consistent. So far I've tried it via watching vids and using the dice rolls, my craps game on my phone (From Casino QUest), and by rolling my dice at home. So far it checks out.
It's basically the same betting that I do, which is the inside place bets. But a regression system. $440 on the inside ($100 on 5 and 9; $120 on 6 and 8). After the first hit, you get paid $140. You then regress to $220 on the inside place bets ($50 on 5 and 9; $60 on 6/8). When this hits, you get paid $70. You then regress to $110 on the inside ($25 on 5/9; $30 on 6/8). At this point, you're now up $100 and can press or collect or do what ever you want when more inside #"s hit. The major downfall is the $440 up front. If someone PSO's or doesn't hit at least 1 inside number, you're down a lot. If they crap out after only hitting 1 inside, you're now down $80: which isn't that bad.
Compare this to me playing the inside and not regressing, it takes about 3 place bet hits to get almost even, regardless of how much I'm betting.
1 advantage is you can play this system almost anywhere since many places now have only $25 tables. Even the Venetian has 1 $15 table, but usually it's full on the weekends, which means only the $25 tables have spots open.
From the various trials I did, even after getting wacked, I was still able to come back slowly and win $100 at a time to cover the loss of $440. In my trials, I've typically crapped out before hitting that 3rd inside number. Which means I would be down a little very time I played. Again, the major hole in this strategy is the PSO. Which I've been on tables often where 3 guys in a rolll PSO. Which would mean I'd be down over $1200.
I think our next trip to Vegas, I'll allocate $1200 for this strategy to see how it does in real life. I've allocated $1K doing a Romanowski on Roulette and lost it all ($200 each bet). And blew $1K on Top Dollar at RR with $200 a spin (DLucky wannabe). So to allocate $1200 for this doesn't seem that bad.
Sounds like a pretty good strategy. Only the PSO's would be a bummer. I would try this strategy also but I dunno when I'm going back. Me and wifey are watching the grandkid but mama is a teacher so maybe summer break or winter break I can go.
But yeah. Regression sounds better than sh*tting your pants waiting for the 3rd hit just to break even.
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Sounds like a pretty good strategy. Only the PSO's would be a bummer. I would try this strategy also but I dunno when I'm going back. Me and wifey are watching the grandkid but mama is a teacher so maybe summer break or winter break I can go.
But yeah. Regression sounds better than sh*tting your pants waiting for the 3rd hit just to break even.
I wouldn't call it shitting my pants as if 2 hit then you're only down $24 on a $66 inside or $40 on a $110 inside. Compare this to 1 hand of Ultimate Texas Holdem, a $15 table, youre at min invested $45 a hand and can still lose. And if you play the side bets, add another $10 to that, so $55 a hand. But I've played times where only 1 bet hits so I'm down much more than $24 or $40. And even these smaller amounts add up over time. Which is the casino's greatest advantage.
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I wouldn't call it shitting my pants as if 2 hit then you're only down $24 on a $66 inside or $40 on a $110 inside. Compare this to 1 hand of Ultimate Texas Holdem, a $15 table, youre at min invested $45 a hand and can still lose. And if you play the side bets, add another $10 to that, so $55 a hand. But I've played times where only 1 bet hits so I'm down much more than $24 or $40. And even these smaller amounts add up over time. Which is the casino's greatest advantage.
That's no different really than the way i play. I sometimes favor place bets, but normally I place the 4 inside numbers -- unless the pass line already covers one, then only 3 more place bets for a total of 4. I then place a COME bet. That covers the repeating outside numbers if that starts happening. I use the winnings from the place bets to add odds to the COME bet when one of those rolls. I do this until i have 3 or 4 COME bets with odds on the layout. Then i stop placing COME bets until one hits.
The goal is to start cycling the COME bets every roll, but only if I've gotten my initial betting money off the table. Once my chip stack is even where i started, everything on the table is now winnings.
Since the odds bet pay more, I'd much rather have that working than the place bets. Plus, if you don't cover your COME bets on the next come-out roll, and 7 comes up, you lose only the original come bet -- not the odds. Less risk, greater reward. Of course, if one of your come bets rolls on the come-out, you only get paid for the original bet -- not the odds unless you call them out as 'working." But, then you can lose those odds bets on the come-out.
It always comes back to the same thing: money management. try to increase your winnings when you win and reduce your losses when you lose. Walk away when you're ahead and also before you are too far in the hole. The less deep you dig that hole, the more likely you are to dig yourself out of it before you go home.
Seems to work more often than not for me anyway. But then, that lucky golden frog your grandma gave you might make all this strategy moot! :geekdanc: :rofl:
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My sister and brother in law are very superstitious. My brother in law would line up miniature Godzilla figures on the slot machine for good luck. He also would physically touch the slot machine screen if a certain symbol was just slightly out of position and try to "coax" it into the right position for the next spin. The guy is nuts.
My sister in law likes to collect bills that has a 7 in the serial number. The more 7's the more "valuable" that bill is. If a dollar bill has say, 3 - 7's in the serial number she squeal in delight and will add it to the twenty or hundy that she put in the machine. She also is nuts.
My wife has a green frog for good luck. She hooks it up to her purse when she goes out to play machines. I cannot say she is nuts because she might read this post.
Me? I was given a green frog by my wife and sister in law. I can't find it. No wonder I cannot win. :rofl:
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My sister and brother in law are very superstitious. My brother in law would line up miniature Godzilla figures on the slot machine for good luck. He also would physically touch the slot machine screen if a certain symbol was just slightly out of position and try to "coax" it into the right position for the next spin. The guy is nuts.
My sister in law likes to collect bills that has a 7 in the serial number. The more 7's the more "valuable" that bill is. If a dollar bill has say, 3 - 7's in the serial number she squeal in delight and will add it to the twenty or hundy that she put in the machine. She also is nuts.
My wife has a green frog for good luck. She hooks it up to her purse when she goes out to play machines. I cannot say she is nuts because she might read this post.
Me? I was given a green frog by my wife and sister in law. I can't find it. No wonder I cannot win. :rofl:
In Chinese language, the 8 is good luck. That's why the machines are 888 or $8.88. The more you notice it, the more you see how Vegas caters toward the Chinese. I've only seen 2 Japanese games, a few Spanish games. Many Chinese games on the floor.
The worst are the annoying button pushers during a bonus. They keep slamming the button. Be cool and make like you've hit a bonus round before. They have IG pages dedicated to vids of people doing this thinking it will help them win. Or hitting the spot on the screen, etc...
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In Chinese language, the 8 is good luck. That's why the machines are 888 or $8.88. The more you notice it, the more you see how Vegas caters toward the Chinese. I've only seen 2 Japanese games, a few Spanish games. Many Chinese games on the floor.
The worst are the annoying button pushers during a bonus. They keep slamming the button. Be cool and make like you've hit a bonus round before. They have IG pages dedicated to vids of people doing this thinking it will help them win. Or hitting the spot on the screen, etc...
Slot machines are pure timing. if it hits while you are playing, it just means you were fortunate to have been at that machine at that moment.
There's a computer geek from CA who went to Vegas i think about one weekend each month. He didn't gamble big, just enough for the thrill. Mostly there to party and hang with his friends. Anyway, he had a few tokens (this was before tickets) that he forgot to cash in, so he put his last 3 in a Megabucks on his way out of the casino (I want to say Caesar's). Anyway, it hit the jackpot, and he left Vegas that particular time a multi-millionaire.
Pure timing.
I've seen people refuse to leave a machine they'd been feeding for hours, because they just know it's about to pay out, and they don't want the next person to take all their winnings (more like losses).
In Japan, the military clubs and Rec Centers have slots to pay for MWR programs. I've won hundreds (sometimes thousands) each time I played, because the machines are set very loose -- they give back like 98% of everything people put into the machines. I learned what times the machines tend to hit jackpots, so I tried to play only at those times. i paid for my lunch almost everyday with a brief stop at a well-selected machine.
I watched a guy in Atsugi who was in the clubs every single day. I only went a few times a week, but he was either at the place or had just left to go to another club every time I went. Not sure if he even had a job, or maybe they didn't miss him being gone. He went from club to Rec Center and back for hours trying to hit the jackpots. He stayed on a machine for hours if needed, because those did eventually pay. One night he was bragging he was up $5K after 8 hours of play. i can't imagine that was normal, or he wouldn't have been bragging.
The machines that paid best had 3 jackpot levels, depending on the color of the 3 sevens and which line they were on. I think 3 blue sevens on the bottom of 3 lines line was the best.
One Sunday, the day before I was to leave for home, I went to the Rec Center for breakfast. There was that guy on the same machine I saw him on the night before! He'd been playing it all night trying to get his money back. By then he'd put in over $2K, and the top jackpot was $2,500 -- so he was close to being down even if he hit.
He was so mad! Every time he spun the reels, he was lucky to get half his bet back -- not even enough payout to keep him afloat for a few minutes of play without feeding it again, and again, and again. most spins came up empty -- not even a cherry was hitting!
That was about 9:30am. I finished eating, played a few machines and hit 2 jackpots totaling $2400. That guy was just giving me the evil eye, like I was taking all his luck. Those machines paid out actual quarters, and as a jackpot was paying, you had to get the worker to refill the hopper until it was all counted out. Then you took the plastic cups full of the same quarters to the cashier window to cash out. It's how Vegas used to be before tokens and paper tickets.
Finally, about 3:00, the guy had enough and decided to leave. Dinner had just started being served, so i decided to eat again. When i left, i had to walk right past that machine. Well, almost past. I stopped and put $40 in, and I hit the top jackpot! :thumbsup: :rofl:
The whole time I was waiting for that slow-ass machine to spit out $2,500 in quarters with the worker opening and refilling it several times, the people in line for dinner -- some of whom had also seen that guy the night before -- were saying, "Man, he's gonna be pissed when he finds out!" :shake: I was looking over my shoulder, half expecting to see him walk in and "catch" me!
I decided to avoid the Rec Center, so i stayed in my room until my bus to the airport left.
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Yep. My brother-in-law is like that. He will stay at "his" machine, afraid that if he left somebody will come, hit the jackpot, and take all his money that he threw in the machine.
There are many people like him. In my opinion they all are nuts.
He and sis in law were supposed to join us on the recent trip to Vegas. They canceled last minute. When I heard the news I let out a thunderous fart of excitement, apologized for the nuclear blast, then turned my head so they couldn't see my smile.......it was the best news I heard in a while. ;D
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Yep. My brother-in-law is like that. He will stay at "his" machine, afraid that if he left somebody will come, hit the jackpot, and take all his money that he threw in the machine.
There are many people like him. In my opinion they all are nuts.
He and sis in law were supposed to join us on the recent trip to Vegas. They canceled last minute. When I heard the news I let out a thunderous fart of excitement, apologized for the nuclear blast, then turned my head so they couldn't see my smile.......it was the best news I heard in a while. ;D
A good friend -- retired Navy -- wanted to take his father to Vegas (father had never been) to cheer him up after his divorce was finalized. My friend, John, wanted his dad to know there's still something to live for! :thumbsup:
They arrived a day before me, so they had time for the two to lose a little on the slots. John told his dad I was the luckiest guy on slots he'd ever seen (he was stationed in Japan, which is where we first met). While John was at the Luxor cashier waiting in line to cash out a ticket, he asked me to show his dad how i play the slots. Right there was a little canaopy with a few high limit machines, which I never play. But, nobody was playing them, so I said "why not?"
We hovered for a minute while I looked for "the" machine. I settled on one that cost $15 per spin -- $5 minimum x 3 bets max. I put in a $100 bill, and after the 3rd spin, I cashed out with $275! John's dad looked at me and said, "What the f**k is it with you?" :rofl: :rofl: He said he'd been losing on every machine he played, and i just walk up and turn it into a damn ATM! :geekdanc:
It's better to be lucky than good.
His dad's mood did improve after a visit to a strip club. :popcorn:
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Been testing that new craps strat that I mentioned. The biggest risk is if there's 3 PSO's in a row. But then again, no strategy will work if there's 3 PSO's in a row (unless you play the don'ts). The gap in this strategy, is if you hedge, you need lots of $ to do so since your in $440 right off the bat. When I play the inside with $66 and the table is cold, I'm usually laying the 4 and 10 for $60 each.
But like the dealer mentioned, this is a long term strat, so you need the bankroll to withstand the PSO's. I mean I could play the don't pass to hedge, but maybe $200 instead to help pad that initial $440.
To test the rolls, I watch YT channels like Color Up who rolls and reviews diff strategies. Sometimes I watch it, but when low on time, I'll fast forward as he puts what the dice rolled at the bottom or the side of the screen. I'll also watch Casino Quest, but they don't post the rolls, so you have to sit and watch the entire video. I use the 30 roll craps challege vids.
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So what YT channels do u guys watch to get your Vegas fix in?
Dannythemedic
Jacobslifeinvegas
AllyoucanVegas (until they moved to CA, they still do some VEgas vids)
NormaGeli
ExploreVegas
Pompsie and Pompsieslots
Itsvegasmatt
LadyluckHQ
Vegaslowroller
Vegasmusttry
Jaycation
I used to watch Allcasinoaction until Sarah got phased out. Seems like Victor controls her (not in a good way) and his vids are not entertaining as he lacks charisma and sounds like a jerkoff.
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I kinda just surf and watch whatever interests me. At one point or another I probably watched most of the ones listed.
I do look for new content on Explore Vegas. For some reason I enjoy how he makes his video reviews and it's fun watching his wife enjoy her food. She does a little dance when she likes something. And he knows how to move the camera at a good pace so we can see the dishes when he's at a buffet. Some vloggers move the camera too fast and I get vertigo, lol!
I used to like All you can Vegas. I think Catherine was the best thing to happen for Derek as far as increasing viewership. Doesn't seem to have much content coming out from those 2 lately.
Then there's Travel Ruby and some others. Always check out Danny the Medic when he posts new stuff. I kinda get tired of him always posting Chow Funn videos. Wish he's stop that.
My wife started watching slot videos. My brother and sister in law lives on those. I started to watch also.
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I kinda just surf and watch whatever interests me. At one point or another I probably watched most of the ones listed.
I do look for new content on Explore Vegas. For some reason I enjoy how he makes his video reviews and it's fun watching his wife enjoy her food. She does a little dance when she likes something. And he knows how to move the camera at a good pace so we can see the dishes when he's at a buffet. Some vloggers move the camera too fast and I get vertigo, lol!
I used to like All you can Vegas. I think Catherine was the best thing to happen for Derek as far as increasing viewership. Doesn't seem to have much content coming out from those 2 lately.
Then there's Travel Ruby and some others. Always check out Danny the Medic when he posts new stuff. I kinda get tired of him always posting Chow Funn videos. Wish he's stop that.
My wife started watching slot videos. My brother and sister in law lives on those. I started to watch also.
I forgot about Travel Ruby. We recently watched her moving to Vegas video cause the discussion is on the table for us.
I think Derek and Catherine don't post much casue they dont come to Vegas as much. I'm curious as to why they moved. I have a feeling that Catherine got a job offer. She seems like a lawyer.
Shit, forgot Danvsworld. He's one who goes too fast when filming the buffet selections.
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So what YT channels do u guys watch to get your Vegas fix in?
Dannythemedic
Jacobslifeinvegas
AllyoucanVegas (until they moved to CA, they still do some VEgas vids)
NormaGeli
ExploreVegas
Pompsie and Pompsieslots
Itsvegasmatt
LadyluckHQ
Vegaslowroller
Vegasmusttry
Jaycation
I used to watch Allcasinoaction until Sarah got phased out. Seems like Victor controls her (not in a good way) and his vids are not entertaining as he lacks charisma and sounds like a jerkoff.
My favorites are Pit Bull Poker and Beyond Blackjack.
I used to watch All Casino Action before they renamed it. When it was Sarah playing and Victor recording, it was pretty good. When Victor started playing, it was obvious he's just a defensive little cry baby. He wasn't just controlling to Sarah -- I think there was a bit of mental and emotional abuse going on. She seemed very unhappy the last few times I saw her. And Victor needs to hire a statistician. He's constantly trying to spout off things like, "I've lost 90% of my hands," or "That's 10 in a row." Anyone watching can see he's exaggerating, or just can't remember the good hands -- just the bad. His negativity finally made me unsub.
Some of these gambling videos are just too long to really watch, so I'll just play them, hope the commercials are not overly annoying, and go about doing things without really giving it my undivided attention.
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My favorites are Pit Bull Poker and Beyond Blackjack.
I used to watch All Casino Action before they renamed it. When it was Sarah playing and Victor recording, it was pretty good. When Victor started playing, it was obvious he's just a defensive little cry baby. He wasn't just controlling to Sarah -- I think there was a bit of mental and emotional abuse going on. She seemed very unhappy the last few times I saw her. And Victor needs to hire a statistician. He's constantly trying to spout off things like, "I've lost 90% of my hands," or "That's 10 in a row." Anyone watching can see he's exaggerating, or just can't remember the good hands -- just the bad. His negativity finally made me unsub.
Some of these gambling videos are just too long to really watch, so I'll just play them, hope the commercials are not overly annoying, and go about doing things without really giving it my undivided attention.
YEah, I've thought about the abuse as well for Sarah. 1 vid where she had to come to Victors defense, she seemed scared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEXFfi3bK28
Funny u mention the longer vids. For me 20 mins or less is good. But whats funny is I'll watch 8 of their vids back to back, so a 30 min vid doesn't seem so long after all.
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Been testing that new craps strat that I mentioned.
SNIP
Dry fire training? ??? :crazy: :rofl:
Same same. . .
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Dry fire training? ??? :crazy: :rofl:
Same same. . .
The new system is "guud enuff"
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YEah, I've thought about the abuse as well for Sarah. 1 vid where she had to come to Victors defense, she seemed scared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEXFfi3bK28
Funny u mention the longer vids. For me 20 mins or less is good. But whats funny is I'll watch 8 of their vids back to back, so a 30 min vid doesn't seem so long after all.
That dude on the EZ Life Slot Jackpots channel is a gossip-o-holic. If there's not a real pile of steaming gossip to shovel, he generates his own. He's often just stirring the pot to get responses from the people he tries to smear -- all for the controversy and click$.
There was one back-and-forth he had with some channel that he claimed was lying about their successes vs. losses. No proof, of course -- just his interpretation of the videos the channel posted.
i've not seen his videos since then. I think he was going after MG21 who played huge limit black jack and slots supposedly donating most of the winnings to charity.
Anyway, EZ Life seems get get his jollies by attacking bigger name YouTubers just to get drama clicks. He could easily land a job at The National Enquirer.
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The new system is "guud enuff"
I used to play craps a lot! Even had friends attend some of those "classes". I may or may not have attended. . . 8)
Progressions, negative and positive. Come bets, considering what are the odds, etc.
All BS! The casino wins! :grrr: :-X :rofl:
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That dude on the EZ Life Slot Jackpots channel is a gossip-o-holic. If there's not a real pile of steaming gossip to shovel, he generates his own. He's often just stirring the pot to get responses from the people he tries to smear -- all for the controversy and click$.
There was one back-and-forth he had with some channel that he claimed was lying about their successes vs. losses. No proof, of course -- just his interpretation of the videos the channel posted.
i've not seen his videos since then. I think he was going after MG21 who played huge limit black jack and slots supposedly donating most of the winnings to charity.
Anyway, EZ Life seems get get his jollies by attacking bigger name YouTubers just to get drama clicks. He could easily land a job at The National Enquirer.
Yeah, he is a drama queen, but I think he got it right for Sarah and Victor. He brought his "receipts" for this one.
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Yeah, he is a drama queen, but I think he got it right for Sarah and Victor. He brought his "receipts" for this one.
From my understanding, Sarah is not a US citizen (Canadian), so she has to return to Canada periodically and renewed her travel visa. Not only is that a time waster, but it gets very expensive. Also, I'm sure COVID created problems with all of that. Her visa issues caused a few "pauses" in her content uploads even before Victor "I have the worst luck of anybody"!
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From my understanding, Sarah is not a US citizen (Canadian), so she has to return to Canada periodically and renewed her travel visa. Not only is that a time waster, but it gets very expensive. Also, I'm sure COVID created problems with all of that. Her visa issues caused a few "pauses" in her content uploads even before Victor "I have the worst luck of anybody"!
I think we have a special agreement with Canada that they don't need an official visa (fill the paperwork at the border/customs). But she is allowed to only stay in the US for a certain amount of time and must go back to Canada for X time. Pretty much honor system.
This did cause a pause on certain times, but Victor has totally taken over now.
Tehre was 1 other channel I liked to watch and I can't remember it. She's a filipino girl with a high pitch voice. Often playing at GVR card games. Every now and then she plays craps. Her husband is black who plays more BJ, but sometimes joins her on 3 card or Ultimate holdem.
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I used to play craps a lot! Even had friends attend some of those "classes". I may or may not have attended. . . 8)
Progressions, negative and positive. Come bets, considering what are the odds, etc.
All BS! The casino wins! :grrr: :-X :rofl:
I like playing craps. I consider it entertainment although I admit it's much more fun when you win. But I understand the game and know that as with slots and other table games, it's skewed in the casino's favor.
Otherwise we wouldn't have all those pretty glitter and glamorous resorts in Vegas.
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I think we have a special agreement with Canada that they don't need an official visa (fill the paperwork at the border/customs). But she is allowed to only stay in the US for a certain amount of time and must go back to Canada for X time. Pretty much honor system.
This did cause a pause on certain times, but Victor has totally taken over now.
Tehre was 1 other channel I liked to watch and I can't remember it. She's a filipino girl with a high pitch voice. Often playing at GVR card games. Every now and then she plays craps. Her husband is black who plays more BJ, but sometimes joins her on 3 card or Ultimate holdem.
Tehre sounds like the gal who has the Lucky Lee channel. That squeaky high voice coupled with a velocity that would give Ben Shapiro a run for his money can be entertaining. Sometimes I actually had to slow the video down to understand her, because even closed captioning had a hard time keeping up! :rofl:
She has almost no clue about strategy. In fact, after years of doing gaming videos, she still pulls out the BJ and TX Holdem strategy cheat cards to know what to do. She's also horrible at math, making a lot of mistakes with certain bets.
I don't watch her slots videos, but BJ, Roulette, and craps are amusing. She plays some big bets considering how much she uses pure luck versus any sort of reason, logic or odds.
She's cut back on the uploads. I think she said she's in college now, so she's been busy.
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Tehre sounds like the gal who has the Lucky Lee channel. That squeaky high voice coupled with a velocity that would give Ben Shapiro a run for his money can be entertaining. Sometimes I actually had to slow the video down to understand her, because even closed captioning had a hard time keeping up! :rofl:
She has almost no clue about strategy. In fact, after years of doing gaming videos, she still pulls out the BJ and TX Holdem strategy cheat cards to know what to do. She's also horrible at math, making a lot of mistakes with certain bets.
I don't watch her slots videos, but BJ, Roulette, and craps are amusing. She plays some big bets considering how much she uses pure luck versus any sort of reason, logic or odds.
She's cut back on the uploads. I think she said she's in college now, so she's been busy.
Yeah, that's her. I can't watch her as much cause Mrs. CMO doesn't like her voice. Yeah, she's bad at gambling. By now, she should def know when to hit/stand, bet in UTH, etc...
She cut back early 2023 because she had some mental health issues, prob depression or something. She had an IG post about it cause people were asking why not as much vids. I haven't watched her in over 6 months.
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I like playing craps. I consider it entertainment although I admit it's much more fun when you win. But I understand the game and know that as with slots and other table games, it's skewed in the casino's favor.
Otherwise we wouldn't have all those pretty glitter and glamorous resorts in Vegas.
The loudest table is the craps one as everyone celebrates when there's a hot shooter. BJ, maybe the entire table celebrates when the dealer bust, but really betting only table min on 1 hand isn't that much to celebrate on IMO. But even then, if you already bust, then you not celebrating. Unless u playing no bust BJ, which I haven't seen in a few years.
Hard Rock had it and dealer gets 23 is a push. It's amazing how many times the dealer can get a 23.
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The loudest table is the craps one as everyone celebrates when there's a hot shooter.
Being part of a crowded craps table and having a hot shooter is one of the most funnest experiences one can have in Vegas.
The table is rowdy, loud, and just plain crazy. I swear even a nun would succumb to the most basic of human nature: greed, LOL! :rofl:
When the shooter is rolling number after number and people are screaming, high-fiving, and pressing bets like it's the end of the world, there is nothing more exciting and fun.
I gotta admit. This is why I play craps. I want to re-live that experience again. It can happen and it will happen, it's just trying to get lucky and being in the right place at the right time. :thumbsup:
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I like playing craps. I consider it entertainment although I admit it's much more fun when you win. But I understand the game and know that as with slots and other table games, it's skewed in the casino's favor.
Otherwise we wouldn't have all those pretty glitter and glamorous resorts in Vegas.
I love playing craps, just haven't been going to Vegas as often. As well as in recent trips, haven't been gambling as much as I used to. The pace of the game can be crazy, and I definitely have to budget. I can play live poker all day with one or two buy-ins. I've had two buy in for craps not last 10 mins. :crazy: :rofl:
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I love playing craps, just haven't been going to Vegas as often. As well as in recent trips, haven't been gambling as much as I used to. The pace of the game can be crazy, and I definitely have to budget. I can play live poker all day with one or two buy-ins. I've had two buy in for craps not last 10 mins. :crazy: :rofl:
I used to play poker, but since I go with Mrs. CMO, I don't got the time to sit at at table all day and feel rushed if I only have 1 hour or so. If I were to ever go to Vegas by myself, I would go to the poker tables.
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So until I began learning how to maximize my betting on craps, I didn't say craps phrases.
So when we went for the first time after Covid shut things down, I was at a $15 table at the Venetian ($66 inside). For the first time in my life, I was able to say press and understand what it meant and took my place bets to black chips. The guy throwing was also from HI and he threw for about 35 mins. He suggested I regress my bets, but I told him I never ever pressed to create a black chip before. Unfortunately, he 7'd out before hitting any of the place bets that was pressed to $100 or $120. But once his roll was done, I walked away with my first purple chip from craps. I explained the above to him and he was happy for me. Remember, prior to this, I was just playing the pass line with 1-3x odds and maybe the 6/8. So not making much, even after a long roll. So to have green chips, let alone black chips on the table was a huge deal at this time.
Then I wanted to sound like a big shot and yell "parlay". Again, YT during the lockdowns taught me more about the betting and payouts for craps. So my next session or so, I would put $1 on the hard ways hoping it hits so I can yell "parlay". It took a few more sessions before i was able to do so as the hards never hit. This is a "I want to do it once" kind of thing cause I normally don't play the hards.
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Yeah, craps jargon is so much fun. It becomes a language all it's own. I also love to yell "parlay!". It seems so mysterious, as if a huge jackpot lurks in the near future! :rofl:
Several times I did parlay a dollar hardway several times and got lucky. So much fun! I always make sure the dealers are in with me on the hardways.
Sometimes I like to throw a red chip and yell "Horn High-Yo!" Sounds so cool and makes it seem like I know what da fuck I'm doing (I don't) :rofl: Never did win on that bet, lol!
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I love playing craps, just haven't been going to Vegas as often. As well as in recent trips, haven't been gambling as much as I used to. The pace of the game can be crazy, and I definitely have to budget. I can play live poker all day with one or two buy-ins. I've had two buy in for craps not last 10 mins. :crazy: :rofl:
Hoo boy, I know what you mean about buy-ins lasting 10 minutes (sometimes less :'() This past trip I've had my share of those. :oops:
My son-in-law likes to play live poker. One time at Caesars he sat in on a game then forgot that we had a 5pm reservation for Bacchanal Buffet. They wouldn't seat us unless all of our party was present. When he showed up my daughter ripped him a new okole, LOL!
She calmed down when he told her he won money and can pay for the buffet. :rofl:
Good times! Even when I lose...... :crazy:
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Watched some Lucky Lee vids last night She posted 1 vid recently, but prior to that her last vid was around Xmas time. She also doesn't look as put together as she normally does (hair was a mess, less mak up) and is wearing glasses. I know in the past she mentioned a mental health issue, I don't remember what type, but she posted about it. So maybe that's still there, or maybe she could be pregnant as she does look like she's gaining more weight.
It's not uncommon for social media people to keep their lives private.
But basically, the vid I saw from Xmas time was her 3 card poker and she had a bad run. Like the hands she folded according to by the book folds, she would have won like 90% of them if she played because the dealer didn't qualify either. This is what I call "playing the vibe of the table". My analytical friend doesn't understand this when we played roulette. Black hit 8 times in a row so I bet black, and explained why. He kept bringing up the statistical % and stuff like that. This vid had about 7K views, which equals $35 of view revenue. She lost $500.
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Hoo boy, I know what you mean about buy-ins lasting 10 minutes (sometimes less :'() This past trip I've had my share of those. :oops:
My son-in-law likes to play live poker. One time at Caesars he sat in on a game then forgot that we had a 5pm reservation for Bacchanal Buffet. They wouldn't seat us unless all of our party was present. When he showed up my daughter ripped him a new okole, LOL!
She calmed down when he told her he won money and can pay for the buffet. :rofl:
Good times! Even when I lose...... :crazy:
WHen we first began going to vegas, we were at Planet Hollywood and Mrs. CMO was playing the $1 Wheel of forturne. She had a feeling the $1K spin was going to hit. We rescheduled our dinner RSVP 3 times and she did hit the $1K spin. The restaurant said stuff like this happens all the time. The gal said they're not busy, so just come before last call which is 10pm.
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Watched some Lucky Lee vids last night She posted 1 vid recently, but prior to that her last vid was around Xmas time. She also doesn't look as put together as she normally does (hair was a mess, less mak up) and is wearing glasses. I know in the past she mentioned a mental health issue, I don't remember what type, but she posted about it. So maybe that's still there, or maybe she could be pregnant as she does look like she's gaining more weight.
It's not uncommon for social media people to keep their lives private.
But basically, the vid I saw from Xmas time was her 3 card poker and she had a bad run. Like the hands she folded according to by the book folds, she would have won like 90% of them if she played because the dealer didn't qualify either. This is what I call "playing the vibe of the table". My analytical friend doesn't understand this when we played roulette. Black hit 8 times in a row so I bet black, and explained why. He kept bringing up the statistical % and stuff like that. This vid had about 7K views, which equals $35 of view revenue. She lost $500.
Chipmonk on crack!
I can't imagine how anyone learns to talk that fast. Maybe she took an course on how to be an announcer reading the fine print for car and drug commercials?
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Watched some Lucky Lee vids last night
Chipmonk on crack!
I can't imagine how anyone learns to talk that fast. Maybe she took an course on how to be an announcer reading the fine print for car and drug commercials?
So out of curiosity I checked out this girl's videos and yes, she talks too fast for me. It's always been an irritation for me lately. My youngest daughter and my oldest grandaughter talks like her. I have a hard time keeping up with what they are saying, LOL!
Ben Shapiro is another one I wish would slow down a notch.
Anyone ever watched Vegas with Shin? To me another guy who talks too fast. He does food reviews. On his comments section I commented nicely if he could slow down a bit on his comments. I think he didn't like my comment because everyone commenting had a heart emoji except mine.
But I like his videos. This guy doesn't mess around. When he orders food he orders a lot of variety items, way more than he could possibly eat so his viewers have some idea of what the restaurant has to offer. He brings the food home with doggie bags.
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So out of curiosity I checked out this girl's videos and yes, she talks too fast for me. It's always been an irritation for me lately. My youngest daughter and my oldest grandaughter talks like her. I have a hard time keeping up with what they are saying, LOL!
Ben Shapiro is another one I wish would slow down a notch.
Anyone ever watched Vegas with Shin? To me another guy who talks too fast. He does food reviews. On his comments section I commented nicely if he could slow down a bit on his comments. I think he didn't like my comment because everyone commenting had a heart emoji except mine.
But I like his videos. This guy doesn't mess around. When he orders food he orders a lot of variety items, way more than he could possibly eat so his viewers have some idea of what the restaurant has to offer. He brings the food home with doggie bags.
I never found myself entertained by his channel. I watch some vids here and there if they seem really important.
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Saw picks over SB weekend. Way more crowded than F1. WIll be interesting to see if quantity wins over quality. They're also talking about an alternating SB at Vegas and Miami.
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Saw picks over SB weekend. Way more crowded than F1. WIll be interesting to see if quantity wins over quality. They're also talking about an alternating SB at Vegas and Miami.
Maybe people wouldn't mind the SB not being played in their city. Gives them an excuse to go to Vegas or Miami, LOL!
At Allegiant Stadium beer was $23. Not sure if it was just plain Bud Light or Coors. I got pissed off when I went Waikiki a while back and they wanted $7 for Coors.
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I learned from Alan Beck that batons are illegal in NV. Wow, a state that has constitutional open carry bans batons/billys. But they do also have a concealed blade length law and ban carrying of machete's. This I knew as I had to buy a new knife for EDC. Went to Bass pro and they had none in the legth that I needed. Ended up at Walmart buying a $9.99 one.
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I learned from Alan Beck that batons are illegal in NV. Wow, a state that has constitutional open carry bans batons/billys. But they do also have a concealed blade length law and ban carrying of machete's. This I knew as I had to buy a new knife for EDC. Went to Bass pro and they had none in the legth that I needed. Ended up at Walmart buying a $9.99 one.
Interesting as to why Nevada would ban batons. Even machete's. Although due to Nevada's lack of vegetation I don't see why a homeowner would need one.
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Interesting as to why Nevada would ban batons. Even machete's. Although due to Nevada's lack of vegetation I don't see why a homeowner would need one.
Many laws are older and in a time where law makers watch too much TV. St. Benitez ruled that if the police can have them, then so can you. Which is a very good sign of things to come.
I was told by my CCW instructor that 1 reason why they made open carry permitless is because sometimes when you CCW, you need to reach up and then your shirt lifts. Thus showing the gun and now you're open carrying.
Another interesting fact is that in NV, you need a CCW permit to totally CCW. You cannot even CCW in your own home without one, or at the range. Even though cops don't enforce this. And this is probably why their CCW test doesn't require one to draw from concealed.
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Many laws are older and in a time where law makers watch too much TV. St. Benitez ruled that if the police can have them, then so can you. Which is a very good sign of things to come.
I was told by my CCW instructor that 1 reason why they made open carry permitless is because sometimes when you CCW, you need to reach up and then your shirt lifts. Thus showing the gun and now you're open carrying.
Another interesting fact is that in NV, you need a CCW permit to totally CCW. You cannot even CCW in your own home without one, or at the range. Even though cops don't enforce this. And this is probably why their CCW test doesn't require one to draw from concealed.
IIRC, I had to draw from a concealed holster during one portion of the NV CCW test I took from Front Sight. In fact, they made a point of letting us know ahead of time that although we were not required to conceal during the class exercises, it was required that we wear a concealing garment the last day of class to practice that.
Most students at test time wore a vest, windbreaker or open long sleeve shirt over their t-shirt to make drawing super-easy.
What's a concealed carry course/test without "conceal?"
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IIRC, I had to draw from a concealed holster during one portion of the NV CCW test I took from Front Sight. In fact, they made a point of letting us know ahead of time that although we were not required to conceal during the class exercises, it was required that we wear a concealing garment the last day of class to practice that.
Most students at test time wore a vest, windbreaker or open long sleeve shirt over their t-shirt to make drawing super-easy.
What's a concealed carry course/test without "conceal?"
Illegal. But, like I said, not enforced. NRS 202.350 1(d).
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I researched the consequences of "Ainokea" CCW in Nevada and realized I should kea.
Consequences are pretty steep. :rofl:
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I researched the consequences of "Ainokea" CCW in Nevada and realized I should kea.
Consequences are pretty steep. :rofl:
Just open. Use a AIWB holster and tuck your shirt behind it. No need a full open carry type holster.
1 thing I've learned from AIWB in casino's is that no one can tell or maybe cares.
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Next time I'm in Vegas I should look around and see if I can spot somebody open carrying. :thumbsup:
Just open. Use a AIWB holster and tuck your shirt behind it. No need a full open carry type holster.
1 thing I've learned from AIWB in casino's is that no one can tell or maybe cares.
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Next time I'm in Vegas I should look around and see if I can spot somebody open carrying. :thumbsup:
I only see this once in a while. We were at Fashion Show and a "thug" looking guy was open carrying at the Apple Store. The other 3 guys in his group weren't. So I left to take a piss and next to the restroom is the security office. As I was going in, I see 2 security guards running out the door and off to somewhere. I assume it was to Apple. When I returned, he and his group were gone. But Fashion Show security are unarmed also.
The other 2 times, we were at a gun store and guys walked in with a pistol on their hip. Unlike HI gun stores, the Vegas ones don't care.
Saw a guy on a motorcycle on the freeway with his AR slung on his back.
Seen a few people CCWing.
Saw some during the rodeo carrying on their hip with their jackets covering over it. But you can see it as their jackets are not buttoned up. This was in MGM and Venetian.
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So facial recognition (FR) software has been in Vegas for a while. Mainly to catch cheaters as someone posted on IG that a card counter was tresspassed, but came back to the Venetian. He was seen being escorted in cuffs by security.
The hotel also uses it for their employee parking. I know a guy who was talked to cause he wasn't parking in employee parking, but the guest parking. He had a diff car, which means they used FR as he walked from his car to the employee entrance.
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Amazing what technology can do today.
In good ways and equally or maybe even more so nefarious ways.
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This is why I shake my head with what's happening in Vegas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3qe47QJ0KE
Must be some damn good bread. $20 for the basket.
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Danny the Medic moved to Vegas. Good for him. He found a calling to make additional money via his YT channel. Guess he got tired of flying from NY to Vegas every month.
Right now he has a very tiny apartment. But I assume this is temporary until he gets to know Vegas more and moves to a more permanent location. When we move, we plan on doing the same. Rent for at least a year before buying.
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Danny the Medic moved to Vegas. Good for him. He found a calling to make additional money via his YT channel. Guess he got tired of flying from NY to Vegas every month.
Right now he has a very tiny apartment. But I assume this is temporary until he gets to know Vegas more and moves to a more permanent location. When we move, we plan on doing the same. Rent for at least a year before buying.
I follow his videos. Besides his Food and Travel channel he created a Misc. Channel that focuses on his quest to beat his gambling addiction.
I also leave comments in his YT comments section. I don't think he likes me much. Some of my comments are probably not what he expected so 99% of his commenters get his "heart" emoji next to them while I get sh*t.
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I follow his videos. Besides his Food and Travel channel he created a Misc. Channel that focuses on his quest to beat his gambling addiction.
I also leave comments in his YT comments section. I don't think he likes me much. Some of my comments are probably not what he expected so 99% of his commenters get his "heart" emoji next to them while I get sh*t.
I'll check out his other channel.
I emailed him shortly after his CCW video and he replied.
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I've been looking for Danny's other channel for a few weeks or so and didn't realize it's "miscellaneous with Danny The Medic". The font and word combo looks too close to "Food and Travel".
I assume YT pays him for this channel as well, which if they do, is a smart move. Norma Geli recently has another channel. Then the others who started a separate slots channel like JacobslifeinVegas and Pompsie.
It seems though that the casino's are going back to not allowing filming in their hotels. I've noticed most of the slots vids are in El Cortez, GVR, Red Rock. Places that needs the business. But then there's Vegas Matt who's still allowed to film in the Venetian and Resorts World. Don't see much at the Cosmo, Wynn, MGM, etc...like how during COVID we saw.
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DTM has a gun specific channel. I'll watch those vids. He needs more subs so he can hit 1000 and start to get paid. Right now he's at 818.
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DTM has a gun specific channel. I'll watch those vids. He needs more subs so he can hit 1000 and start to get paid. Right now he's at 818.
If you want to help him out, you should post the links to his channels under a different topic.
Gotta make it easy for us! :geekdanc:
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If you want to help him out, you should post the links to his channels under a different topic.
Gotta make it easy for us! :geekdanc:
U just failed your interview for head google scrubber. lol.
I'm on a few FB groups about Vegas and at least a few times a week, someone asked "haven't been to Vegas since precovid, what changed". And wow. so many changes. The biggest diff is table mins.
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U just failed your interview for head google scrubber. lol.
I'm on a few FB groups about Vegas and at least a few times a week, someone asked "haven't been to Vegas since precovid, what changed". And wow. so many changes. The biggest diff is table mins.
You missed the point. Your links will get lost in this thread. A separate thread would make them stand out better.
When I said to make it easier for us, i was being gentle. I meant people other than me! :geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
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You missed the point.
My reply was a joke. I understand what you meant.
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My reply was a joke. I understand what you meant.
I think EEF is contagious. Causes problems with our funny bones
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The Vegas bus system is going to implement AI that can detect weapons. There was no mention if it can detect concealed weapons like a AIWB firearm, or if the weapon has to be visible. Like in someone's hand. This was in response to a shooting that happened a few years ago on the bus. IIRC, it was outside of Paris Hotel.
I know there is AI tech that can detect AIWB firearms and it's based on infrared. Basically, a cold spot on your appendix. This tech also has been around for years now. But this tech is also very expensive and hotels don't even use this. How do I know, I CCW in random hotels all the time. And have seen others printing too. So I highly doubt the bus system will use this type of AI. I think it will be more the visual AI. They claim it will call Metro in seconds.
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Gun control is getting more and more nuts.
It would be easier to implement stricter consequences for actions but I guess that would be too easy and a lot of people would lose their jobs and the ACLU would be insignificant.
Social workers, parole officers, drug therapists, etc. would all be extinct and working at McDonalds.
But maybe that's a good thing. I hear you can put a kid through college and buy a house working for fast food outlets nowadays.
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Gun control is getting more and more nuts.
It would be easier to implement stricter consequences for actions but I guess that would be too easy and a lot of people would lose their jobs and the ACLU would be insignificant.
Social workers, parole officers, drug therapists, etc. would all be extinct and working at McDonalds.
But maybe that's a good thing. I hear you can put a kid through college and buy a house working for fast food outlets nowadays.
Rainbow Drive in had a scholarship program to UH or KCC for employee's kids. My friend had full scholarship tuition to UH. Her dad worked the grill.
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Gun control is getting more and more nuts.
It would be easier to implement stricter consequences for actions but I guess that would be too easy and a lot of people would lose their jobs and the ACLU would be insignificant.
Social workers, parole officers, drug therapists, etc. would all be extinct and working at McDonalds.
But maybe that's a good thing. I hear you can put a kid through college and buy a house working for fast food outlets nowadays.
One of the biggest problems with using statutory penalties to prevent violent crimes, including gun crimes, is too often the perpetrator doesn't survive. They are killed in the arrest process or commit suicide soon after.
That fact means we don't get a chance to convict and punish these people.
Maybe it's anecdotal, but i see more stories about a suspect being killed in the commission of very violent crimes or having their bodies discovered because they chose death over being in prison. The successful capture, conviction and punishment stories don't seem as numerous.
I think if that's what people see in the news, it lessens any deterrence the legal system offers society..
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The Deuce also announced that they will have armed guards on the bus's.
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All this nickel and diming is the reason I don't go to Vegas as much nowadays.
It's the principle, the shadiness, and downright money grab that irritates me.
Screw Vegas. Well, for a while anyway. :rofl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzeniVxIKk
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The Deuce also announced that they will have armed guards on the bus's.
Hoo boy, just imagine an all out gunfight on the Deuce while on the Strip with the Bellagio Fountains spurting in the air along with the soundtrack of Elvis's "Viva Las Vegas!"
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Hoo boy, just imagine an all out gunfight on the Deuce while on the Strip with the Bellagio Fountains spurting in the air along with the soundtrack of Elvis's "Viva Las Vegas!"
Went last week. Saw armed security at the bus stop. But to be fair, walgreens has armed security too.
Hit a straight flush on ultimate TX holdem at Palms. They changes to u need to hit it on the flop for the $25k progressive. So i only won like $500 off a $10 bet.
Hit the royal 4 hands later, but not on the flop. $10 turned into $5k. Lost out on a $250k progressive.
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Because me and wife watch our newly arrived great-grandson (1yr old) and grandson (4 months old) we are limited to school breaks when we can go Vegas.
Wife was thinking maybe right after Christmas Day through maybe Jan. 4th or 5th.
But I dunno. Sometimes I feel like I like go and sometimes I feel....nah.
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I can post more now as I'm on my laptop vs phone (fat fingers).
There was 1 crackhead who a cop detained outside of Paris. The crackhead then resisted a little. The cop didn't have to take him down, but gave him a stern command to "relax". He was the only cop there. Mrs. CMO and I were about 20 feet away and hung around until back up arrived, just incase he needed assistance. We wouldn't help right off the bat, but wait until it's needed. Like the crackhead is ontop the cop MMA style or things like that. Due to airline rules, we didn't have OC, but only our firearms. OCing would be a good option to assist sooner and not wait. I immediately thought "FML, I don't got no OC". So this reinforced my importance of having OC. OC would be good too because TBH, you wouldn't want to touch this crackhead. He was super dirty and open sores.
I'm pretty sure if worst case happened and the cop did need our help, the Metro Chief wouldn't hang us out to dry, compared to HPD/prosecutors office here. They had a situation at Range702 where a cop was stabbed in the neck with a screwdriver and the bad guy got lit up by 3 CCW holders. The chief commended their actions for helping.
Many luxury retail places now have a velvet rope. Grab and dash is a thing now in Vegas and has been for a few years. Even the Fashion Show Mall now has armed security and K9. This is the mall where the HI woman was killed in the parking lot a few years ago. Outside of the Horseshoe, that mall area has armed security patrolling. They're in tactical gear too. Plate carrier, FDE uniform, gunbelt. They aren't police.
Times have changed where you need this on the strip.
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Yep. You really have to be vigilant when in Vegas, no matter where you are. Sign of the times.
I think of that Hawaii lady who got killed in the parking lot. So sad. Just enjoying their Vegas vacation.
Are we really a civilized and just society when criminals run free, many times with only a slap on the wrist?
Meanwhile families grieve a loved one forever.
BTW, what happened to that f*cker.
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Yep. You really have to be vigilant when in Vegas, no matter where you are. Sign of the times.
I think of that Hawaii lady who got killed in the parking lot. So sad. Just enjoying their Vegas vacation.
Are we really a civilized and just society when criminals run free, many times with only a slap on the wrist?
Meanwhile families grieve a loved one forever.
BTW, what happened to that f*cker.
IIRC, the shooter was from CA. So we see weak judicial system for career criminals affecting other states. CA/DNC type policies affect others, like a cancer spreading.
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IIRC, the shooter was from CA. So we see weak judicial system for career criminals affecting other states. CA/DNC type policies affect others, like a cancer spreading.
So sad. Commiefornia judicial system engineered by far left DA kamala.
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Anyone going to Vegas, be aware of the F1 construction. Allow for longer than normal travel.
This event is screwing Vegas as the high end casinos made money (But not all bars/restaurants inside same high end). Everyone else got screwed.
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Anyone going to Vegas, be aware of the F1 construction. Allow for longer than normal travel.
This event is screwing Vegas as the high end casinos made money (But not all bars/restaurants inside same high end). Everyone else got screwed.
My sister in law and her husband (yeah I know, my brother in law but I don't like to call him that :rofl:) are leaving tonight and they do rent a car. They like to drive all over the valley and visit local casinos and try the local eateries. They hardly visit the strip, preferring to stay at Suncoast and Green Valley.
But yeah, that F1 event does cause far reaching problems for drivers. I wish it would go away but it will stay for at least 5 years?
My wife and I plan to be in Vegas from Dec. 26 through Jan. 3rd. We usually stay Downtown. I don't like to drive in Vegas but was thinking of renting a car for a couple of days to go to Trader Joe's and visit some local casinos and I know she likes to visit some outlet malls. I hate driving in Vegas.
We usually go with my in-laws above but my sister in law's husband drives me nuts. But they drive and so I don't have to. But the guy is too much. Had enough of him.
I feel sorry for my wife as she loves going with her sister to Vegas. So I will bite the bullet and drive when we are there.
One problem though. My sister in law and her husband might come with us in December. Sh*t. >:(
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Saw the Tropicana implosion and it was lame. Anyone who paid to stay at the next door hotels and wasn't above say 10th floor, got a show of dusk mainly. I wonder if the Oyo elevators were working as they're known to not be working often.
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Lots of changes for the future in Vegas.
I tried to post a video talking about it and ended up with a video about an Indian Restaurant in Vegas. :rofl:
Oh well, deleted it but yeah, lots of changes coming. High prices too.
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The Deuce (bus) has gun detection cameras now. Besided having armed guards at the stops.
2 were detected. 1 was an airsoft. The other was fake.
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The Deuce (bus) has gun detection cameras now. Besided having armed guards at the stops.
2 were detected. 1 was an airsoft. The other was fake.
So, you're saying the cameras haven't detected any real guns, but a couple non-firearms were?
Sounds like a great use of funds.
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The Deuce (bus) has gun detection cameras now. Besided having armed guards at the stops.
2 were detected. 1 was an airsoft. The other was fake.
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I guess CCW is forbidden in mass transit in Nevada?
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I guess CCW is forbidden in mass transit in Nevada?
By Deuce rules, not law. But what the AI would do is call 911 and have metro meet you at a stop, unless you got off first. Then I assume a manhunt begins.
I wonder if casinos use this tech and turn a blind eye to people who aren't causing trouble. We CCW all the time and not 1 issue, and I've seen others at ShotShow CCWing in a casino about 2 years ago and no one was stopped.
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So, you're saying the cameras haven't detected any real guns, but a couple non-firearms were?
Sounds like a great use of funds.
Yes.
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Was in Vegas after F1 week.
Spoke to a bartender at a happening club at a high end casino. They made jack $hit. About $50 in tips total for the thursday, friday and saturday F1 event.
I think that the high end casino gambling floors make money. The restaurants in there and bars/clubs don't make as much. Average hotels like NYNY, Park MGM dont make much and the lower end hotels do even worst (Circus Circus, Excalibur, etc...).
The traffic still sucks. Took us 30 mins to drive 3 blocks due to the deconstruction of the barriers for F1.
Last year, they were quick to release the F1 numbers, like a few days. This year, nothing yet. Last year, some guy at the Wynn tipped $400K, which brought up their tipping numbers. I'll bet that didn't happen again.
Spoke a many local workers and they all hate F1. Too much traffic for months prior to the event and for about 2 months after the event.
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Was in Vegas after F1 week.
Spoke to a bartender at a happening club at a high end casino. They made jack $hit. About $50 in tips total for the thursday, friday and saturday F1 event.
I think that the high end casino gambling floors make money. The restaurants in there and bars/clubs don't make as much. Average hotels like NYNY, Park MGM dont make much and the lower end hotels do even worst (Circus Circus, Excalibur, etc...).
The traffic still sucks. Took us 30 mins to drive 3 blocks due to the deconstruction of the barriers for F1.
Last year, they were quick to release the F1 numbers, like a few days. This year, nothing yet. Last year, some guy at the Wynn tipped $400K, which brought up their tipping numbers. I'll bet that didn't happen again.
Spoke a many local workers and they all hate F1. Too much traffic for months prior to the event and for about 2 months after the event.
Seems to me that Vegas is targeting the financially elite. Even though they are fewer in numbers than the average tourists (which make up the majority of the visitors) the amount they spend must make it more profitable for the resorts.
Gone are the days when the average visitors were catered to with cheap buffets, graveyard specials at the 24 hr. cafes, and generous comps for generally average play.
This is why I like to visit Downtown and local casinos more than the Strip but even at those locations you can see that Vegas is listening more to the stockholders than the average joe.
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I used to hit up Vegas 2+ times a year. Last I went was last summer and barely gambled. Little to no interest lately for gambling, especially since many family that I used to go with or visit have passed or no longer go (as often). I will still go and still enjoy, just not like before. COVID really out a damper on things, plus other stuff keeping me busy nowadays.
Love me some F1 tho. Want to go to an event one day, but not Vegas.
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Since COVID, the tipping has gone down. Talked to the same bartender above. $600 a night on a slow night was average. Now, a slow night gets you $50. Tables are being given away cause no one is spending $40K on a table as often. Which means these giveaways don't tip much if at all.
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To me this was the magic of Vegas:
24 hr cafes with cheap graveyard specials. You didn't have to worry about finding a place to eat after a night of drinking and gambling.
Buffets everywhere. Most of them were reasonably priced. Some were dirt cheap (you get what you paid for, lol!) and some were priced higher for better items. It was fun to go to all of them.
$5 minimum tables everywhere. Even $3 at some places. Gambling was fun and enjoyable for everyone with a modest budget.
"Free" rooms for moderate play. A nice touch if you were going to gamble anyway. And generous food and drink comps were the norm.
Now most of the cafes are no longer 24 hr. And not all of them offer graveyard specials. Some resorts don't even have cafes anymore. Only "food halls" with small portioned foods for ridiculous prices.
Buffets are going the way of the do-do bird. Downtown only has one buffet left. It used to be that almost every casino had a buffet of some sort. Now the buffets are close to $100 per person.
As far as table games, there was no such thing as limited hours table games. It was always open, all hours of the day. No more. And the $3 and $5 minimums are also becoming extinct.
And needless to say, the players club of every resort and casino sucks. Vegas is a cash-grab destination now.
There is no difference between Vegas and back home in my opinion. Vegas used to be a 24 hour food and entertainment destination.
Now it's becoming just like at home, where food and entertainment has hours of operation.
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To me this was the magic of Vegas:
24 hr cafes with cheap graveyard specials. You didn't have to worry about finding a place to eat after a night of drinking and gambling.
Buffets everywhere. Most of them were reasonably priced. Some were dirt cheap (you get what you paid for, lol!) and some were priced higher for better items. It was fun to go to all of them.
$5 minimum tables everywhere. Even $3 at some places. Gambling was fun and enjoyable for everyone with a modest budget.
"Free" rooms for moderate play. A nice touch if you were going to gamble anyway. And generous food and drink comps were the norm.
Now most of the cafes are no longer 24 hr. And not all of them offer graveyard specials. Some resorts don't even have cafes anymore. Only "food halls" with small portioned foods for ridiculous prices.
Buffets are going the way of the do-do bird. Downtown only has one buffet left. It used to be that almost every casino had a buffet of some sort. Now the buffets are close to $100 per person.
As far as table games, there was no such thing as limited hours table games. It was always open, all hours of the day. No more. And the $3 and $5 minimums are also becoming extinct.
And needless to say, the players club of every resort and casino sucks. Vegas is a cash-grab destination now.
There is no difference between Vegas and back home in my opinion. Vegas used to be a 24 hour food and entertainment destination.
Now it's becoming just like at home, where food and entertainment has hours of operation.
I remember the $3 craps at Fremont. And if it was after the allowed time period, you can ask the pitboss if my wife can bet $3 since she's uncomfortable betting more. Every time we asked, they said OK.
Vegas used to cater to all incomes. I wonder if they would ever revert back. In general, gambling is up quarter after quarter, but if you read the fine print, it's the whales that caused this. Oct $'s were released and in general, the strip down $22 million in gambling revenue.
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I remember the $3 craps at Fremont. And if it was after the allowed time period, you can ask the pitboss if my wife can bet $3 since she's uncomfortable betting more. Every time we asked, they said OK.
Vegas used to cater to all incomes. I wonder if they would ever revert back. In general, gambling is up quarter after quarter, but if you read the fine print, it's the whales that caused this. Oct $'s were released and in general, the strip down $22 million in gambling revenue.
I hope Vegas eventually goes back to catering to the masses, which were the everyday average American gambler. I know Resorts World and that other Asian Resort (closed now) were specifically targeted for the Asian High Rollers. And all the casinos in Vegas had those Asian themed slots everywhere.
I remember the Fremont's $3 tables, especially the craps table. I have never seen that table empty. Loved playing craps at the Fremont.
My wife and I are headed towards Vegas (Downtown) at the end of the year. I used to be so excited for weeks on end prior to the trip but nowadays I'm more like......meh.
What makes it worse is BIL and SIL are coming too. Wife and I tried to be discreet about it but they found out about it and now they coming. Sh*t. SIL is fine as a Vegas companion but damn, that husband of hers......... :grrr:
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i think part of the revenue problem Vegas is experiencing has to do with the increased number of casinos and card rooms all over the country. There's also the online gaming. All of this competition SHOULD have nudged Vegas to lean more toward the vacation experience and not trying to get more and more income from the visitors they still receive.
Parking fees, resort fees, higher minimum table bets, shorter casino operating hours, higher food prices, expensive show tickets, fewer/less generous comps, and so forth show a leaning toward making the experience all about increased revenue at the expense of pleasing the visitors. You want a great trip? Gotta pay!
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i think part of the revenue problem Vegas is experiencing has to do with the increased number of casinos and card rooms all over the country. There's also the online gaming. All of this competition SHOULD have nudged Vegas to lean more toward the vacation experience and not trying to get more and more income from the visitors they still receive.
Parking fees, resort fees, higher minimum table bets, shorter casino operating hours, higher food prices, expensive show tickets, fewer/less generous comps, and so forth show a leaning toward making the experience all about increased revenue at the expense of pleasing the visitors. You want a great trip? Gotta pay!
Very true. I'm determined to find those great prime rib special deals that used to be so common back in the day. Also the steak and eggs graveyard specials for $2.99 (yeah, right, lol!!).
But I'm gonna try. Yeah, the food might border on mediocre, but that is the fun part of Vegas for me. Gamble, drink, get tipsy then at 2 or 3am go to the cafe and eat leather steak and eggs or prime rib that was left under the warmer too long.
Some Hawaii people seek out spam musubi, loco moco, and ramen while in Vegas. I don't. I can get that anytime when at home.
In Vegas I seek out stuff I usually don't eat at home. So I'll seek out Southern BBQ places, Chicken and Waffles, or Chicken fried Steak with a side order of Gumbo. Stuff like that.
And prime rib. Prime Rib means Vegas, baby! :thumbsup:
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F1 last year, the $ made was released about 1-2 days after the event ended. Here we are 3 weeks later and nothing.
The Wynn bragged on how much was tipped in that 1 weeked, but left out a lot was from 1 tipper, who tipped $400K.
No traffic jams at the airport for private planes this year.
Conventions are coming back. Amazon convention was last week and getting a RSVP at a restaurant was very difficult. NFR Rodeo is this weekend. This is how Vegas should be. F1 causes too much outside the venue to be enjoyed.
The last 4 months in a row, revenue has declined on the strip. With Oct being down 22% on the strip from last Oct. I know a lot of people who are avoiding Vegas leading up to F1 due to the traffic.
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I just saw an article mentioning about Vegas will start dis-mantling the F-1 race infrastructure.
Gee, I thought it was already gone. Why does it take so long. :grrr:
Better be gone when I head that way in 2 weeks.
First time ever I applied for casino credit so I don't have to travel with large sums of cash. Too much anxiety going through the TSA bullcrap.
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I just saw an article mentioning about Vegas will start dis-mantling the F-1 race infrastructure.
Gee, I thought it was already gone. Why does it take so long. :grrr:
Better be gone when I head that way in 2 weeks.
First time ever I applied for casino credit so I don't have to travel with large sums of cash. Too much anxiety going through the TSA bullcrap.
the ETA is end of december to be completely done. Then about 5 months until they start again.
We got off the freeway by TI. They were breaking down the F1 stuff there. It took 30 mins to go 2 blocks to Palazzo.
4th month in a row that Vegas casinos had a decline in gaming revenue. The last time this happened was COVID lockdowns. Oct down 22% on the strip. I speculate this is due to F1 traffic, people aren't going.
Still no release on F1 revenue yet.
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Interesting. I watched a Vegas Vlog (JacobslifeinVegas) and he was talking about how gambling revenue on the Strip was down but revenue Downtown was up. Although smaller so Vegas overall is still down.
Maybe people are sick and tired of the nickel and diming on the Strip along with stuff like the F-1 bullsh*t that ties up the Strip for half a year.
Although some of the nickel and diming of the Strip you can see Downtown are starting to follow.
I think Downtown is appealing to the average Vegas visitor with average bankrolls and spending budgets.
They are the majority of the visitors that visit Vegas.
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I've done Vegas for almost 47 yrs.
Would always visit with Pops (a.k.a No.1) and after moving to Hawaii in "86", would meet him there 2x per yr.
Started 1979 at the Flamingo then other stays at Imperial, MGM Grand, Frontier, Tropicana, Paris, South Point and Strat but usually stayed at MainStreet where we were comped.
We never called it a "vacation" but rather referred to it as "work" at the craps table.
Pops loved downtown and he LOVED craps. After learning from him, I left in the black about 85% of the time but the first few years were painful.
My fondness for LV withered at the passing of my father in 2008 who at the age of 78, suffered a heart attack (at a crap table out on a 5 mile junket :thumbsup:)
I've returned to LV a couple times with son or daughter, and to "toss his ashes".
Opened up the canister at the snap of the Strats X-Scream, cloud of ashes freaked out all as it appeared to be some kind of smoking malfunction while hanging out some 25ft off the tower 850ft above the ground but apparently,I was not the first to do so. :rofl:
Last years visit, the best odds bet available to me to get up was an offer by a pair attractive young ladies but I did not place that bet. :rofl:
Yes, gone are the days of the $1 shrimp cocktail, $2 tables and cheap buffets with good food as well as the good times with Pops.
Was a nice run but that table has gone cold.
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Interesting. I watched a Vegas Vlog (JacobslifeinVegas) and he was talking about how gambling revenue on the Strip was down but revenue Downtown was up. Although smaller so Vegas overall is still down.
Maybe people are sick and tired of the nickel and diming on the Strip along with stuff like the F-1 bullsh*t that ties up the Strip for half a year.
Although some of the nickel and diming of the Strip you can see Downtown are starting to follow.
I think Downtown is appealing to the average Vegas visitor with average bankrolls and spending budgets.
They are the majority of the visitors that visit Vegas.
The clientel on the strip vs downtown are very different. DT has more your "lower class" visitors (excluding Hawaii people). There's a reason why on the weekends, Fremont st has metal detectors set up. And HI people aren't going as often as before covid. When we go to Fremont, the craps table is often empty. Precovid, it's often all 4 tables are full at all hours of the day. Main Streets buffet is only the weekends now andnot daily like recovid.
And with DT's table mins $15, there is really no point for us to go there any more. 1 main reason we would go is the $5 tables. DT is appealing to the middle income to below middle income visitor. So they get quantity vs quality.
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The clientel on the strip vs downtown are very different. DT has more your "lower class" visitors (excluding Hawaii people). There's a reason why on the weekends, Fremont st has metal detectors set up. And HI people aren't going as often as before covid. When we go to Fremont, the craps table is often empty. Precovid, it's often all 4 tables are full at all hours of the day. Main Streets buffet is only the weekends now andnot daily like recovid.
And with DT's table mins $15, there is really no point for us to go there any more. 1 main reason we would go is the $5 tables. DT is appealing to the middle income to below middle income visitor. So they get quantity vs quality.
Been a few years since going, but I routinely avoid The Strip except when going to shows or certain favorite restaurants. I also go to check out the new, fancy properties. I'll usually play a few hands of BJ or try my luck on a Megabucks machine, but I don't spend hours gambling like I do downtown. The dealers on the Strip are not anywhere near as friendly, the table limits are at least double -- even higher on the weekends when they are busiest -- and the comps are non-existent unless you're betting double the minimum limits (an MGM pit boss actually told me that when I asked to be rated).
I look at the Strip as an entertainment venue. Go to eat or see a show, but play a little while waiting for reservations. If you like to gawk at Vegas customers, the Strip is usually a better selection than downtown. I sometimes play the high limit machines on the Strip -- the one's that aren't more than $15 for a max play. If I'm going to play high limit games, might as well use that where it can win the most or at least break even.
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I also avoid going to the Strip. Unless as Flapp mentioned it's to go to a really nice restaurant or to see a show.
My wife and I used to love to visit the Bellagio Atrium Display that changes seasonally. But that has soured a lot since that place is flooded with people and all of them want selfies and pics of their companions with their cellphones. It is so crowded and packed you can't leisurely enjoy the display. So we gave up on that, along with other stuff we used to do on the Strip.
We all like to win money gambling but the foremost reason for me is the entertainment aspect. I play 99% craps. Fun, stressful, exhilarating yet depressing all at the same time. I love it. If I really wanted to make money I'd put it in stocks, bonds, and money markets. I gamble for fun.
Downtown had the fun players and of course it's share of grumpy party poopers whom I avoided as much as possible.
With that being said, it seems Downtown is seeing an influx of obnoxious, selfish, and rude players lately, people whose parents didn't teach manners or respect for others.
And sad to say, I'm seeing a lot of them are youngsters from Hawaii. It used to be those youngsters would respect the "Uncles" from Hawaii but I see more and more of them trying to act like gangsta's.
Too much Tik Tok, You Boob, and all that other social media mind poison.
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Been a few years since going, but I routinely avoid The Strip except when going to shows or certain favorite restaurants. I also go to check out the new, fancy properties. I'll usually play a few hands of BJ or try my luck on a Megabucks machine, but I don't spend hours gambling like I do downtown. The dealers on the Strip are not anywhere near as friendly, the table limits are at least double -- even higher on the weekends when they are busiest -- and the comps are non-existent unless you're betting double the minimum limits (an MGM pit boss actually told me that when I asked to be rated).
I look at the Strip as an entertainment venue. Go to eat or see a show, but play a little while waiting for reservations. If you like to gawk at Vegas customers, the Strip is usually a better selection than downtown. I sometimes play the high limit machines on the Strip -- the one's that aren't more than $15 for a max play. If I'm going to play high limit games, might as well use that where it can win the most or at least break even.
I agree with MGM comps as we don't get much from them. Well I mean just comp nights at their shithole property like Excalibur. Compare this to the same game play at Palazzo/Venetian. We've been getting comp nights for years. I'm a $15 table min player and Mrs. CMO is a $2-4 a spin slot player. We haven't had to pay for a night in many years at V/P. And they're all suites, so double the size. Compared this to a same price room at the Bellagio or Wynn. You're getting more for your buck at V/P. At most, we've hit their tier 2 level, which isn't that much gameplay. But sometimes, we don't even hit that and the comps still come. I would also say it's easier to hit V/P tier 2 than it is to hit MGM Rewards tier 2. V/P tier 2 is 3,000 points. On average you earn 1 pt for every $4 on slots and tables are unknown rating. Compare this to tier 2 at MGM that's 20,000pts. IDK what their ratio is, but I assume it's a 1 point for $1 on slots. Then I was told at various MGM properties that unless you're betting green chips ($25), the play won't matter. So my $15 table min play isn't recorded.
Only recently have I been getting comps for Bellagio and Aria. Prior to a few months ago, I've never received comps from either. This tells me Vegas is struggling bad. Even Wynn gives us 1 night comp every 4 months or so. And all we do is eat at their buffet and play like $200 in slots as the $25 tables there are too rich for me. I also saw Aria last month have $15 BJ, which is unusual since they're a $25 table type of place.
In my XP, the friendliness of dealers is the same on the strip and downtown. I don't get much comps downtown either when we used to go visit there. But this was precovid and I was betting $5 table mins and the strip was $10. I don't play slots at all downtown.
But, the table mins downtown now are often $15, so same as the strip. Downtown Grand has $1 BJ, but good luck getting on that table and sometimes Plaza has $5 BJ and Roulette (single 0), but it's not all the time like how it was precovid where everywhere downtown was $5 tables. 4 Queens has $10 craps and so does El-Cortez. Fremont has $15 craps and table mins. That was a shocker.
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I also avoid going to the Strip. Unless as Flapp mentioned it's to go to a really nice restaurant or to see a show.
My wife and I used to love to visit the Bellagio Atrium Display that changes seasonally. But that has soured a lot since that place is flooded with people and all of them want selfies and pics of their companions with their cellphones. It is so crowded and packed you can't leisurely enjoy the display. So we gave up on that, along with other stuff we used to do on the Strip.
We all like to win money gambling but the foremost reason for me is the entertainment aspect. I play 99% craps. Fun, stressful, exhilarating yet depressing all at the same time. I love it. If I really wanted to make money I'd put it in stocks, bonds, and money markets. I gamble for fun.
Downtown had the fun players and of course it's share of grumpy party poopers whom I avoided as much as possible.
With that being said, it seems Downtown is seeing an influx of obnoxious, selfish, and rude players lately, people whose parents didn't teach manners or respect for others.
And sad to say, I'm seeing a lot of them are youngsters from Hawaii. It used to be those youngsters would respect the "Uncles" from Hawaii but I see more and more of them trying to act like gangsta's.
Too much Tik Tok, You Boob, and all that other social media mind poison.
Next time you go, try hit up Venetian craps. It's $15 in the day time and sometimes $15 at night too. I found that the players here aren't as stuck up compared to other high end hotels.
Bubble craps and bubble crapless craps is the new hot thing. This way you can play the don't and not feel bad too. I haven't played table crapless craps yet, but want to try it next time. The extreme place bets 2 and 12 pay 6:1. The 3 and 11 pay 3 to 1.
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I've always wondered if pulling tips causes less friendly dealers? Like why should I take the extra effort to be social and smile if my extra tip gets split and I end up with only pennies on the dollar?
But to me, I'd rather have a not friendly dealer, that way I don't feel obligated to tip as often.
This is 1 thing I haven't noticed changed in the years I've been going to vegas. Like post covid, the friendliness of the dealers were the same.
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I agree with MGM comps as we don't get much from them. Well I mean just comp nights at their shithole property like Excalibur. Compare this to the same game play at Palazzo/Venetian. We've been getting comp nights for years. I'm a $15 table min player and Mrs. CMO is a $2-4 a spin slot player. We haven't had to pay for a night in many years at V/P. And they're all suites, so double the size. Compared this to a same price room at the Bellagio or Wynn. You're getting more for your buck at V/P. At most, we've hit their tier 2 level, which isn't that much gameplay. But sometimes, we don't even hit that and the comps still come. I would also say it's easier to hit V/P tier 2 than it is to hit MGM Rewards tier 2. V/P tier 2 is 3,000 points. On average you earn 1 pt for every $4 on slots and tables are unknown rating. Compare this to tier 2 at MGM that's 20,000pts. IDK what their ratio is, but I assume it's a 1 point for $1 on slots. Then I was told at various MGM properties that unless you're betting green chips ($25), the play won't matter. So my $15 table min play isn't recorded.
Only recently have I been getting comps for Bellagio and Aria. Prior to a few months ago, I've never received comps from either. This tells me Vegas is struggling bad. Even Wynn gives us 1 night comp every 4 months or so. And all we do is eat at their buffet and play like $200 in slots as the $25 tables there are too rich for me. I also saw Aria last month have $15 BJ, which is unusual since they're a $25 table type of place.
In my XP, the friendliness of dealers is the same on the strip and downtown. I don't get much comps downtown either when we used to go visit there. But this was precovid and I was betting $5 table mins and the strip was $10. I don't play slots at all downtown.
But, the table mins downtown now are often $15, so same as the strip. Downtown Grand has $1 BJ, but good luck getting on that table and sometimes Plaza has $5 BJ and Roulette (single 0), but it's not all the time like how it was precovid where everywhere downtown was $5 tables. 4 Queens has $10 craps and so does El-Cortez. Fremont has $15 craps and table mins. That was a shocker.
My usual game is a $25 min blackjack -- preferably double deck. The higher limit keeps most of the morons from jumping in to screw up the shuffle and lose their money before jumping out. Experienced players will pull their bets back until the moron leaves. You see that behavior more often on the $5 and $10 tables.
Another reason is when you're 4 bets ahead on a $25 table, you might be looking to take a break before giving $100 back. Compare that with being $40 ahead at a $10 table. Less likely to leave while ahead.
For craps, i look for a $5 or $10 table. I can go through a $200 buy-in quickly before winning it back and pulling ahead. The dice can cause a really fast swing, so you need the bankroll to sustain the losses before it swings back positive. Higher limits mean risking a larger bankroll.
I try to play only $1 machines if not in the high limit area. Most are $2-$5 per spin, but I try to find the $3 max spin machines. Winning a $1000 bonus is way better than a $250 bonus on a quarter machine. Always bet max bet on a machine. My aunt says she was playing a Megabucks machine years ago and only put 2 coins in. She hit the Megabucks jackpot reels but only got paid the non-jackpot couple of grand. Gotta play for the jackpot, or don't play at all!
If I'm correct, each table game assigns comp points based on a certain algorithm. They take the table minimum, your buy-in amount, your observed average bet, the house edge for the game, and the amount of time you play and calculate the expected house take. The numbers basically tell them what they can expect to take from you over a long period of time. It doesn't matter if you win or lose. From that, they add the calculated comp points to your player's card account. You need to always hand the dealer your player's card as soon as you buy in or start betting to make sure your rating includes all of your play. You'll notice the pit bosses checking out your play and updating the computer as your session progresses.
Since I do play mostly blackjack, I normally call the BJ pit when making reservations downtown. They will check my ratings and put the reservation in the system for me. That way i get the room comped right away instead having to go through the normal reservation and room deposit process.
It pays to talk to the supervisors. I've known several at the Cal for many years -- assuming they are still there.
Tips are expected in Vegas for EVERYTHING! If you like to tip after a session, let the dealers know so they aren't expecting it the entire time. Or, you can tip when you first walk up to break the ice and keep them from wondering if you'll ever tip. For me, I enjoy placing a bet for the dealers just so they have the chance at more. A few times when I cashed out playing craps, i'll bet $10 on 11 for the dealers. It's hit more than not. That's a pretty good tip. Most dealers appreciate the attempt even if they lose. Better than getting completely stiffed.
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Last month, my coworker wanted me to play $3 a spin max bet Megabucks. I haven't played MB in about 2 years, but 2 years ago, they had them. Last month, I went to 4 different casinos and the max bet were between $5 and 9. They even had some with higher like the one at the Palms that is the "vault edition". I've also notices less and less MB around. Precovid, you would easily find a cluster of them together. Now it's like 1 or 2 at the most.
Haven't been downtown this year, so IDK what megabucks set up they have, but like everythign else the strip is doing, the max bet on MB has increased.
I found in most HL rooms, you can still bet less than $5 a spin on many machines. They may not have $0.01 or $0.05 denoms, but instead start at $0.10 and you can min bet so you're not spending $25 a spin. And the reverse, on the casino floor, you can find besides the $0.88 penny slots to $100 max bet. But if you want the $250 a spin machines, then HL room is where you have to go.
Many machines now are multi denom. So even your penny slot has a max bet of $8+ and $12.50 isnt' uncommon. The days of $3 max bet are over as those are more rare to find.
Was at Resorts World and their HL room had $25 min BJ that pays 3:2. Most BJ on the regular floor on the strip are 6:5, but all high limits are 3:2. I was expecting a higher table min like $100. Also, HL rooms have single zero roulette, but IDK what their min is. I think Ellis Island or El Cortez has 3:2 non-high limit double deck.
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Next time you go, try hit up Venetian craps. It's $15 in the day time and sometimes $15 at night too. I found that the players here aren't as stuck up compared to other high end hotels.
Bubble craps and bubble crapless craps is the new hot thing. This way you can play the don't and not feel bad too. I haven't played table crapless craps yet, but want to try it next time. The extreme place bets 2 and 12 pay 6:1. The 3 and 11 pay 3 to 1.
That's pretty reasonable for Venetian. I think the Venetian and Palazzo are very beautiful and clean properties, nicer than Bellagio in my opinion.
Looks like crapless craps are becoming more and more popular. It's bound to find it's way Downtown, if it hadn't already.
I tried the bubble craps machines. It's ok but it's just me. I get paranoid that the machine is rigged even though the more logical part of me reminds me that it has an RNG just like the other types of machines. I guess I enjoy the human aspect of the game.
When Downtown was primarily $5 minimums I liked to play the $10 craps tables because like Flapp mentioned it keeps the budget minded players (those who hold up the game and have no idea of the etiquette or don't care) away.
The worst players I can't stand is the ones who buy in for $40 and just stand there, order drinks and once in a while play $1 prop bets, waiting for a hot shooter. When it's their turn to roll, they pass the dice. When they lose all their buy-in, they still stand there, taking up space like leeches. I don't know why the pit critters don't kick them out.
Maybe they were once $100 bettors and are now down and out and the casino took all their money and feel sorry for them.
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That's pretty reasonable for Venetian. I think the Venetian and Palazzo are very beautiful and clean properties, nicer than Bellagio in my opinion.
Looks like crapless craps are becoming more and more popular. It's bound to find it's way Downtown, if it hadn't already.
I tried the bubble craps machines. It's ok but it's just me. I get paranoid that the machine is rigged even though the more logical part of me reminds me that it has an RNG just like the other types of machines. I guess I enjoy the human aspect of the game.
When Downtown was primarily $5 minimums I liked to play the $10 craps tables because like Flapp mentioned it keeps the budget minded players (those who hold up the game and have no idea of the etiquette or don't care) away.
The worst players I can't stand is the ones who buy in for $40 and just stand there, order drinks and once in a while play $1 prop bets, waiting for a hot shooter. When it's their turn to roll, they pass the dice. When they lose all their buy-in, they still stand there, taking up space like leeches. I don't know why the pit critters don't kick them out.
Maybe they were once $100 bettors and are now down and out and the casino took all their money and feel sorry for them.
i've seen craps dealers and supervisors ask non-players to move back when the table is getting crowded and more want to walk up. Usually friends of players trying to learn the game or spectate but not betting themselves. If there's room, the dealers don't usually mind. Same for card games. Non-players in a chair are asked to vacate the chairs if the games are busy.
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i've seen craps dealers and supervisors ask non-players to move back when the table is getting crowded and more want to walk up. Usually friends of players trying to learn the game or spectate but not betting themselves. If there's room, the dealers don't usually mind. Same for card games. Non-players in a chair are asked to vacate the chairs if the games are busy.
Another controversial scene that I see a lot at the Downtown tables are craps players sitting in chairs at a busy table. Many times I want to play but these players take up 2 spaces if not more, depending on the player's size.
I say controversial because I've seen old and frail people that want to play so that's understandable.
I've seen others that look like they don't need chairs but who's to say. They might be harboring an unseen health condition but in my opinion most of them are full of shiite.
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That's pretty reasonable for Venetian. I think the Venetian and Palazzo are very beautiful and clean properties, nicer than Bellagio in my opinion.
Looks like crapless craps are becoming more and more popular. It's bound to find it's way Downtown, if it hadn't already.
I tried the bubble craps machines. It's ok but it's just me. I get paranoid that the machine is rigged even though the more logical part of me reminds me that it has an RNG just like the other types of machines. I guess I enjoy the human aspect of the game.
When Downtown was primarily $5 minimums I liked to play the $10 craps tables because like Flapp mentioned it keeps the budget minded players (those who hold up the game and have no idea of the etiquette or don't care) away.
The worst players I can't stand is the ones who buy in for $40 and just stand there, order drinks and once in a while play $1 prop bets, waiting for a hot shooter. When it's their turn to roll, they pass the dice. When they lose all their buy-in, they still stand there, taking up space like leeches. I don't know why the pit critters don't kick them out.
Maybe they were once $100 bettors and are now down and out and the casino took all their money and feel sorry for them.
Something about collecting chips is way more fun than a credit on a machine. I hate mid roll buy ins, esp if they aren't betting right away. Last month, I was waiting to buy in and I counted how much I lost had I bought in mid roll and it would have been easily $300. I would buy in and immediately put money on the inside. Confirmation bias, but I would say at least 75% of the time of a mid roll buy in, the shooter craps out the next throw.
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Another controversial scene that I see a lot at the Downtown tables are craps players sitting in chairs at a busy table. Many times I want to play but these players take up 2 spaces if not more, depending on the player's size.
I say controversial because I've seen old and frail people that want to play so that's understandable.
I've seen others that look like they don't need chairs but who's to say. They might be harboring an unseen health condition but in my opinion most of them are full of shiite.
Chairs on the strip aren't very common. I see this all the time downtown for the grandpas and even at Orleans for 50's+. But the guy I saw at the Wynn that had a RSVP table and about $250K worth of yellow chips ($1K) had a chair. He was also like 300lbs and over 70 years old.
Funny that I can stand at a craps table for 3 hours and my legs and knees are fine, but when I worked retail, legs all sore.
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Chairs on the strip aren't very common. I see this all the time downtown for the grandpas and even at Orleans for 50's+. But the guy I saw at the Wynn that had a RSVP table and about $250K worth of yellow chips ($1K) had a chair. He was also like 300lbs and over 70 years old.
Funny that I can stand at a craps table for 3 hours and my legs and knees are fine, but when I worked retail, legs all sore.
Yeah, when we are doing something we enjoy, for some reason we can go on forever. My legs and knees are bad, but I can stand and play craps for hours. My longest session was at Fremont. I started playing at 5:30 or so in the morning and finally quit at 2 in the afternoon.
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Something about collecting chips is way more fun than a credit on a machine. I hate mid roll buy ins, esp if they aren't betting right away. Last month, I was waiting to buy in and I counted how much I lost had I bought in mid roll and it would have been easily $300. I would buy in and immediately put money on the inside. Confirmation bias, but I would say at least 75% of the time of a mid roll buy in, the shooter craps out the next throw.
OMG, buying in mid-roll is my ultimate pet peeve when playing craps. More so if I am the shooter. I will wait until the hand is over, whether a seven-out or the point is made. Then I will buy-in.
I like to keep some small denomination chips in my pocket at all times. Usually several reds and whites. Then when I'm waiting to buy in, I'll sometimes place the point by placing the chips on the last line of the passline bar. At least I'm kinda in the game, especially when there is a good shooter.
Other players buy in mid-roll because they can see that there is a good shooter. I believe in rhythm and it might be superstitious but when a shooter's rhythm gets thrown off by these guys, it tends to lead to a 7-out. Just ask the pit bosses. They love to throw a good shooter's rhythm off. The longer the shooter has to wait because of mid roll buy-ins, or greedy players pressing the middle and their place bets the higher the chance of a 7-out.
This is just me because some people don't see no harm nor foul. Even some shooters don't care when they have to wait a long time between rolls. Part of the game I guess.
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OMG, buying in mid-roll is my ultimate pet peeve when playing craps. More so if I am the shooter. I will wait until the hand is over, whether a seven-out or the point is made. Then I will buy-in.
I like to keep some small denomination chips in my pocket at all times. Usually several reds and whites. Then when I'm waiting to buy in, I'll sometimes place the point by placing the chips on the last line of the passline bar. At least I'm kinda in the game, especially when there is a good shooter.
Other players buy in mid-roll because they can see that there is a good shooter. I believe in rhythm and it might be superstitious but when a shooter's rhythm gets thrown off by these guys, it tends to lead to a 7-out. Just ask the pit bosses. They love to throw a good shooter's rhythm off. The longer the shooter has to wait because of mid roll buy-ins, or greedy players pressing the middle and their place bets the higher the chance of a 7-out.
This is just me because some people don't see no harm nor foul. Even some shooters don't care when they have to wait a long time between rolls. Part of the game I guess.
To me, one of the major aspects is the fast pace. Normally, it's less than 30 seconds between rolls on a 1/2 full table. It's when the table gets full and each player is doing a variety of bets that the dealers have to pause to make sure everyone is paid and bets places as instructed. I've had to stand around for more than a minute or two waiting for the stickman to direct who gets paid from the Proposition bets in the center. That happens after the pass/come, place and field bets are completed. So, IMO, the pace gets really slow when a couple of "experts" show up and start betting on a dozen different wagers.
It can get complicated making the dealers slow the pace to avoid mistakes while communicating with players -- and some players make it slower because they are elderly, hard of hearing and/or inebriated.
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OMG, buying in mid-roll is my ultimate pet peeve when playing craps. More so if I am the shooter. I will wait until the hand is over, whether a seven-out or the point is made. Then I will buy-in.
I like to keep some small denomination chips in my pocket at all times. Usually several reds and whites. Then when I'm waiting to buy in, I'll sometimes place the point by placing the chips on the last line of the passline bar. At least I'm kinda in the game, especially when there is a good shooter.
Other players buy in mid-roll because they can see that there is a good shooter. I believe in rhythm and it might be superstitious but when a shooter's rhythm gets thrown off by these guys, it tends to lead to a 7-out. Just ask the pit bosses. They love to throw a good shooter's rhythm off. The longer the shooter has to wait because of mid roll buy-ins, or greedy players pressing the middle and their place bets the higher the chance of a 7-out.
This is just me because some people don't see no harm nor foul. Even some shooters don't care when they have to wait a long time between rolls. Part of the game I guess.
That used to REALLY bother me. It still does, but I've found a way to sort of just "reset" and wait until dice are back in front of me. I absolutely hate it when someone, generally a drunk newbie, forces their way in mid-roll, throws down money on the table, the dice hits it and then. . .
I've also been where the table has a "cooler". Where either one of the dealers takes a while or someone starts arguing over something stupid. In the former, I haven't experienced that many time, especially when the table has been tipping. I've seen some things advantagious to us/table when tipping well, as I am sure many have as well. Both craps and BJ. . . For the latter, it doesn't happen very often, but I've had it where the table is hot, running on 45+ min roll. Where generally the place bets are large(r) amounts. Then someone is arguing over a $25 field bet. Where someone on the table gives them the $$$ as essentially a "here, shut up".
When I had just turned 21 and was in Vegas with my parents. I was in downtown and got to know a few folks from Hawaii. One night, I was on the table and someone else was rolling and doing well. I was drinking had to piss! I was about to step off and one of the older guys was like "you can't right now" ;D So, I held it. . . roll continued, and I held it. Wasn't going to be the jinx. . . haha
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That used to REALLY bother me. It still does, but I've found a way to sort of just "reset" and wait until dice are back in front of me. I absolutely hate it when someone, generally a drunk newbie, forces their way in mid-roll, throws down money on the table, the dice hits it and then. . .
I've also been where the table has a "cooler". Where either one of the dealers takes a while or someone starts arguing over something stupid. In the former, I haven't experienced that many time, especially when the table has been tipping. I've seen some things advantagious to us/table when tipping well, as I am sure many have as well. Both craps and BJ. . . For the latter, it doesn't happen very often, but I've had it where the table is hot, running on 45+ min roll. Where generally the place bets are large(r) amounts. Then someone is arguing over a $25 field bet. Where someone on the table gives them the $$$ as essentially a "here, shut up".
When I had just turned 21 and was in Vegas with my parents. I was in downtown and got to know a few folks from Hawaii. One night, I was on the table and someone else was rolling and doing well. I was drinking had to piss! I was about to step off and one of the older guys was like "you can't right now" ;D So, I held it. . . roll continued, and I held it. Wasn't going to be the jinx. . . haha
My mama told me it's bad luck to be superstitious.
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I'm never shocked at the superstitious things people will say in Vegas. The scary part is, sometimes the predictions come true. i've seen people claim that the dice hitting the chips at the far end are going to cause a 7/out. The dice can hit the chips 10 times, and every time the table holds its collective breath as they hope for anything but a 7. On the 11th roll, however, the dice hit the chips and come up 7. At least one person looks angrily at the shooter as if hitting the chips caused a bad roll. Why did the previous 10 'bad rolls' not come up 7? I guess the gods of bad luck were focused on another game at that moment! :rofl:
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My mama told me it's bad luck to be superstitious.
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I'm never shocked at the superstitious things people will say in Vegas. The scary part is, sometimes the predictions come true. i've seen people claim that the dice hitting the chips at the far end are going to cause a 7/out. The dice can hit the chips 10 times, and every time the table holds its collective breath as they hope for anything but a 7. On the 11th roll, however, the dice hit the chips and come up 7. At least one person looks angrily at the shooter as if hitting the chips caused a bad roll. Why did the previous 10 'bad rolls' not come up 7? I guess the gods of bad luck were focused on another game at that moment! :rofl:
Superstitious? Can't say I'm not. . . but also do people link cause and effect? Maybe. . . I would tend to think about things as not tempting fate, luck, whatever. The engineer side of me understands the law of probabilities, random whatever, and whatever. But can someone rule out superstitions?
I play (or used to) play a LOT of live hold'em. In that game, I try to play the odds, but I admit I often run on "gut feel", "something isn't adding up", or even "oh what the hell, take a shot". . .
As for the example, while I don't like when that happens, I also understand it's part of the game. I wouldn't berate anyone, but I have seen some folks make quite a stink/scene.
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Superstitious? Can't say I'm not. . . but also do people link cause and effect? Maybe. . . I would tend to think about things as not tempting fate, luck, whatever. The engineer side of me understands the law of probabilities, random whatever, and whatever. But can someone rule out superstitions?
I play (or used to) play a LOT of live hold'em. In that game, I try to play the odds, but I admit I often run on "gut feel", "something isn't adding up", or even "oh what the hell, take a shot". . .
As for the example, while I don't like when that happens, I also understand it's part of the game. I wouldn't berate anyone, but I have seen some folks make quite a stink/scene.
Poker is labeled by many as a game of skill, not of chance. So, the "gut feeling" is usually more of a learned skill on how to read other people.
Sure, you have to use percentages to know if your hand has a chance of winning. But then you also have to have a way of telling if your opponents' card have a higher chance. I find the percentages are more useful at the first round of betting before the flop. Obviously a pair of kings, a king/ace, or a pair of 10s have better odds than a majority of others. Strategy would be to go all in if that's allowed so you push out the donks and maybe pick up the blinds without a fight.
The skill comes in figuring out how the others play. My very first time playing any casino poker against other players was at a 7-card stud game with a $4 max bet limit. The guy 2 to my left had just pushed everyone else out of 2 pots with nothing but a very small pair. he kept max raising until everyone folded. The next time he ahd I were still in the hand, he kept raising and raising. I kept calling without raising just to make him think I was on a draw. He turned over a pair of 3s and I have a straight. The very next hand, it was like a rerun. He had a pair of 7s, and i had a full house. I had trips out of the gate, so I wasn't folding to this clown at all. After those losses, he had to go to the ATM so he could buy in again.
So, when discussing Vegas gaming, I don't usually include poker games that have players against each others, but I do include the ones where each player is against the house.
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Woo hoo! :rofl:
Just got off the craps table and I lost $700 bucks!! :o
Trip still in the early stages. I am determined to win it back and multiply it by 100 times. :thumbsup:
Either that or this is me on the way home on the plane...... :(
Other notes:
Coffee is so expensive for regular grind and the cups are shrinking.
At the Boyd properties Downtown, being a lowly Ruby or Sapphire member still had perks like a couple of bucks off at the buffet. Now you suck wind. You have to be Emerald or higher to even get noticed, LOL!
Craps Downtown are all $15 minimums wherever I went. I think there are lower limits somewhere I haven't found them yet. Maybe cause it's only for limited times.
We just got done eating at the Cal Market St. Cafe. Their coffee is $4 and some change for a little menehune cup and it tastes like Vegas tap water from Lake Mead.
Really. It does. Anyone who drank tap water in Vegas knows what I mean. Yuck.
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Woo hoo! :rofl:
Just got off the craps table and I lost $700 bucks!! :o
Trip still in the early stages. I am determined to win it back and multiply it by 100 times. :thumbsup:
Either that or this is me on the way home on the plane...... :(
Other notes:
Coffee is so expensive for regular grind and the cups are shrinking.
At the Boyd properties Downtown, being a lowly Ruby or Sapphire member still had perks like a couple of bucks off at the buffet. Now you suck wind. You have to be Emerald or higher to even get noticed, LOL!
Craps Downtown are all $15 minimums wherever I went. I think there are lower limits somewhere I haven't found them yet. Maybe cause it's only for limited times.
We just got done eating at the Cal Market St. Cafe. Their coffee is $4 and some change for a little menehune cup and it tastes like Vegas tap water from Lake Mead.
Really. It does. Anyone who drank tap water in Vegas knows what I mean. Yuck.
Go rub the buddha's belly! ;D
Yeah, starting a trip off can make a big difference, at least for me. Start of with a big loss, I'll play more tentative, at least for a while. Start off with a neutral or even slight win, I'll usually tend to press "normal" to even higher. Where I've missed on bigger wins. Experienced that even when jumping on a table on the downward swing, trying to make my money last and friend's jumping on a little later and pressing more. While we all made money, they made much more. I've also seen that logic work the other way, but "it's bad beats" that you remember.
I haven't been to Downtown in ages. Maybe the $15 min is for the weekend. Or maybe they figure lots of folks visiting for the holidays, flush with Christmas money.
In any case, best of luck!
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Woo hoo! :rofl:
Just got off the craps table and I lost $700 bucks!! :o
Trip still in the early stages. I am determined to win it back and multiply it by 100 times. :thumbsup:
Either that or this is me on the way home on the plane...... :(
Other notes:
Coffee is so expensive for regular grind and the cups are shrinking.
At the Boyd properties Downtown, being a lowly Ruby or Sapphire member still had perks like a couple of bucks off at the buffet. Now you suck wind. You have to be Emerald or higher to even get noticed, LOL!
Craps Downtown are all $15 minimums wherever I went. I think there are lower limits somewhere I haven't found them yet. Maybe cause it's only for limited times.
We just got done eating at the Cal Market St. Cafe. Their coffee is $4 and some change for a little menehune cup and it tastes like Vegas tap water from Lake Mead.
Really. It does. Anyone who drank tap water in Vegas knows what I mean. Yuck.
El Cortez has $10 craps, but they're not on "Fremont st". 4 Queens has $5 tables, but it's not consistent.
I get 2 coffee's while playing, that way it just cost me $1 tip. I get it iced too. For the mornings, I bring preworkout which is powdered and just add to my water bottle when I wake up.
SouthPoint has $5 tables consistantly. Rampart $10 consistantly.
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I haven't been to Downtown in ages. Maybe the $15 min is for the weekend. Or maybe they figure lots of folks visiting for the holidays, flush with Christmas money.
In any case, best of luck!
$15 is the new post covid norm for downtown. The last to have $5 consistently was Golden Nugget, but they're at $15 as of like 6 months ago.
Also, not many HI people compared to precovid.
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$15 is the new post covid norm for downtown. The last to have $5 consistently was Golden Nugget, but they're at $15 as of like 6 months ago.
Also, not many HI people compared to precovid.
You guys are making Vegas sound so bad, I'm glad I haven't been back since pre-Covid. The air travel hassles were the main thing i wanted to avoid, but now it seems Vegas itself is no longer the same affordable, comp-rich, entertaining experience it used to be.
I've never been to Reno or Lake Tahoe. Might plan my next trip to someplace I've not been rather than ruin my Vegas memories with the current mess happening there.
Truthfully, I've been considering a cruise.
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You guys are making Vegas sound so bad, I'm glad I haven't been back since pre-Covid. The air travel hassles were the main thing i wanted to avoid, but now it seems Vegas itself is no longer the same affordable, comp-rich, entertaining experience it used to be.
I've never been to Reno or Lake Tahoe. Might plan my next trip to someplace I've not been rather than ruin my Vegas memories with the current mess happening there.
Truthfully, I've been considering a cruise.
Vegas used to be for the middle income and above and they can have a great time. now it's for the upper middle income with disposable income to burn. Vegas nickles and dimes you for a lot and no more as much cheap stuff as before. You can still do Vegas on a budget, but it's not worth it IMO. Save your money or go elsewhere as the precovid budget places have all gone up a lot.
The lower incomes used to be able to go to Vegas and just do the cheap stuff and have an OK time.
Reasons why I go to Vegas so often:
1) Gamble
2) CCW with more freedom
3) Food from casual to higher end
4) Workers are more friendly compared to here, they have more "aloha spirit" it seems
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$15 is the new post covid norm for downtown. The last to have $5 consistently was Golden Nugget, but they're at $15 as of like 6 months ago.
Also, not many HI people compared to precovid.
I don't mind the $15-25 min much. For craps, only really affects how I play the pass line. My initial place bets same. Unless I am getting pounded and needing to make my funds last. Lately, trips are for other events, or combined. Whereas before I'd be there for a week with family.
Sad that things are like that now, but everything is more expensive. Not surprised that Vegas spending is down. Saw that last time I was in Vegas last fall where even on the strip on a Sat night, seemed busy, but not like how I had expected for late fall.
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Go rub the buddha's belly! ;D
Yeah, starting a trip off can make a big difference, at least for me. Start of with a big loss, I'll play more tentative, at least for a while. Start off with a neutral or even slight win, I'll usually tend to press "normal" to even higher. Where I've missed on bigger wins. Experienced that even when jumping on a table on the downward swing, trying to make my money last and friend's jumping on a little later and pressing more. While we all made money, they made much more. I've also seen that logic work the other way, but "it's bad beats" that you remember.
I haven't been to Downtown in ages. Maybe the $15 min is for the weekend. Or maybe they figure lots of folks visiting for the holidays, flush with Christmas money.
In any case, best of luck!
Thanks! :shaka:
Yesterday was better at the craps table. I was up a couple of hundred then the table turned south. Greedy me tried to win more and within two PSO's (Point /Seven-outs) in a row I was down $150.
I just finished doing a work-out session at the Cal's fitness room. I like going early in the morning when nobody's there. I was on the treadmill with my headspeakers on and rocking to a music video on my laptop thinking I was still alone in the room.
I realized there were 3 women in the room working out also. Startled the sh*t out of me.
Luckily I was toward the end of my workout routine and quickly left after. Didn't even bother to do the cool down. I figured leave before they get the hots for this 68 yr. old man's body....... ;)
After cleaning up craps table here I come.
By the way, this place is packed. Where da hell do people get all their money to gamble......
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Vegas used to be for the middle income and above and they can have a great time. now it's for the upper middle income with disposable income to burn. Vegas nickles and dimes you for a lot and no more as much cheap stuff as before. You can still do Vegas on a budget, but it's not worth it IMO. Save your money or go elsewhere as the precovid budget places have all gone up a lot.
The lower incomes used to be able to go to Vegas and just do the cheap stuff and have an OK time.
Reasons why I go to Vegas so often:
1) Gamble
2) CCW with more freedom
3) Food from casual to higher end
4) Workers are more friendly compared to here, they have more "aloha spirit" it seems
Yes, the workers here at the Cal should hold Aloha Spirit remedial classes for the folks back home. Seems like Hawaii people forget how good they have it.
Seems like the Cal is preparing to make at least one craps table a $25 minimum table. The placards are out but they haven't opened the tables yet.
I actually thought the raising of the minimums for table play would discourage the Hawaii people. But nooooo......they still reach for their wallets and the hundies keep coming out.
Hawaii people, between fireworks and gambling, where they get the money to eat and pay bills..... :rofl:
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What? No mo dollar craps, nickel slots, $1.99 breakfast buffet anymo?
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What? No mo dollar craps, nickel slots, $1.99 breakfast buffet anymo?
Ever since Binion's Horseshoe went broke, downtown just hasn't been the same. The Fremont Street experience has transformed that walkway into a smaller version of the Strip, with street performers, concerts, zipline rides, and a lot more retail stores.
I miss the old-timey flavor of Binion's. They had the best restaurant with $10 ribeye steak dinners and great breakfast selections. The comps were very generous, the atmosphere on one side was dim, quieter and packed with single and double deck black jack tables.
Now everything is super brightly lit, wall to wall noisy machines, and mostly 6 deck shoes for black jack. It's crowded with people bumping you as they try to walk by the tables. More like a Station property now.
Amazing history behind Binion's. Lots of dark stories surrounding it's failure, too. When I walked up and found the doors chained before being sold the first time is when I think downtown, and Vegas in general, started losing it's alure for me. Things have been changing for the worse ever since IMO. I either have to accept the new norm, or find a better place to enjoy myself.
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What? No mo dollar craps, nickel slots, $1.99 breakfast buffet anymo?
Downtown Grand has $1 BJ, but the tables always full.
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Thanks! :shaka:
Yesterday was better at the craps table. I was up a couple of hundred then the table turned south. Greedy me tried to win more and within two PSO's (Point /Seven-outs) in a row I was down $150.
I just finished doing a work-out session at the Cal's fitness room. I like going early in the morning when nobody's there. I was on the treadmill with my headspeakers on and rocking to a music video on my laptop thinking I was still alone in the room.
I realized there were 3 women in the room working out also. Startled the sh*t out of me.
Luckily I was toward the end of my workout routine and quickly left after. Didn't even bother to do the cool down. I figured leave before they get the hots for this 68 yr. old man's body....... ;)
After cleaning up craps table here I come.
By the way, this place is packed. Where da hell do people get all their money to gamble......
So my craps session this time ended up in the positive. I played craps continuously from 8am and finally quit at 5:30 in the afternoon. All at the same table. Took only one piss break. Standing all the time.
My chip rack was full so I started to stuff my back pockets since there was nowhere else to put them.
After that session, the adrenaline died and so did my body. I was so exhausted, hungry, thirsty, and severly dehydrated. After eating I just went to the room and knocked out.
Highlights of the craps session:
This one roller was making me so much money I threw 4 green chips to the stick man and yelled "all the hardways for the shooter!" The shooter won 2 of those 4 bets I made for him. He was so happy and thanked me from across the table. I gave him a thumbs up.
Then I was the shooter and I had a pretty good roll. Made the guys and gals a lot of money. Then the dealer put $250 in front of me and I said "What is this?" She said that guy across the table made a hardway bet for you......it was the same guy that I bet for earlier....... ;D
This other gentleman came up to the table and had maybe only a hundred dollars of red chips in his hand. $15 minimum table. He bet the pass line and put all the rest of his chips as odds. He rolled. And rolled. And rolled. Seemed like forever. But because he had no money to bet the other numbers, he wasn't able to profit from his shooting. After he finally sevened out, a rain of green and black chips were thrown in his direction, making him lots of money from grateful bettors on the table, myself included.
Yes, it's funny how a hot craps table makes humans kind, friendly, and generous.
On the other hand, did you ever experience a cold table? CCW required there....... :rofl:
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So my craps session this time ended up in the positive. I played craps continuously from 8am and finally quit at 5:30 in the afternoon. All at the same table. Took only one piss break. Standing all the time.
My chip rack was full so I started to stuff my back pockets since there was nowhere else to put them.
After that session, the adrenaline died and so did my body. I was so exhausted, hungry, thirsty, and severly dehydrated. After eating I just went to the room and knocked out.
Highlights of the craps session:
This one roller was making me so much money I threw 4 green chips to the stick man and yelled "all the hardways for the shooter!" The shooter won 2 of those 4 bets I made for him. He was so happy and thanked me from across the table. I gave him a thumbs up.
Then I was the shooter and I had a pretty good roll. Made the guys and gals a lot of money. Then the dealer put $250 in front of me and I said "What is this?" She said that guy across the table made a hardway bet for you......it was the same guy that I bet for earlier....... ;D
This other gentleman came up to the table and had maybe only a hundred dollars of red chips in his hand. $15 minimum table. He bet the pass line and put all the rest of his chips as odds. He rolled. And rolled. And rolled. Seemed like forever. But because he had no money to bet the other numbers, he wasn't able to profit from his shooting. After he finally sevened out, a rain of green and black chips were thrown in his direction, making him lots of money from grateful bettors on the table, myself included.
Yes, it's funny how a hot craps table makes humans kind, friendly, and generous.
On the other hand, did you ever experience a cold table? CCW required there....... :rofl:
I used to play like that guy, only the pass line. I would miss out on hot shooters. everyone is cheering but me. Then covid hit and I had no choice but to watch lots of YT and learned how to maximize my money. So place bets I play and I don't play pass, unless i'm the shooter. My best roll was 40 mins and I only made 2 points in 40 mins. I hit the ATS also in that session.
Where were you playing at?
Last september at the Wynn, I saw a RSVP table and the guy had the entire bend to himself filled with all banana chips ($1K). I estimated about $250K in that rack bend. He had 2 friends playing on the other end with about $2-5K worth of chips.
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So my craps session this time ended up in the positive. I played craps continuously from 8am and finally quit at 5:30 in the afternoon. All at the same table. Took only one piss break. Standing all the time.
My chip rack was full so I started to stuff my back pockets since there was nowhere else to put them.
After that session, the adrenaline died and so did my body. I was so exhausted, hungry, thirsty, and severly dehydrated. After eating I just went to the room and knocked out.
Highlights of the craps session:
This one roller was making me so much money I threw 4 green chips to the stick man and yelled "all the hardways for the shooter!" The shooter won 2 of those 4 bets I made for him. He was so happy and thanked me from across the table. I gave him a thumbs up.
Then I was the shooter and I had a pretty good roll. Made the guys and gals a lot of money. Then the dealer put $250 in front of me and I said "What is this?" She said that guy across the table made a hardway bet for you......it was the same guy that I bet for earlier....... ;D
This other gentleman came up to the table and had maybe only a hundred dollars of red chips in his hand. $15 minimum table. He bet the pass line and put all the rest of his chips as odds. He rolled. And rolled. And rolled. Seemed like forever. But because he had no money to bet the other numbers, he wasn't able to profit from his shooting. After he finally sevened out, a rain of green and black chips were thrown in his direction, making him lots of money from grateful bettors on the table, myself included.
Yes, it's funny how a hot craps table makes humans kind, friendly, and generous.
On the other hand, did you ever experience a cold table? CCW required there....... :rofl:
That's sounds amazing. i've only made enough to keep playing in one session for maybe an hour. I usually walk away when the dice turn evil, which is hopefully after I'm ahead at least double my buy-in. Most often it's after i was able to fight back to even.
it's funny how it's the shooter who gets the credit for a long roll, the blame for when they do PSO, but when you have the dice it's just luck when you PSO on the first roll! :thumbsup:
Your shooter that only bet the PASS line is an example of why I usually play the COME and only a couple place bets -- 6 & 8, maybe 5 & 9 too if the feeling strikes. That way, when someone gets stuck on the same number, the COME bet not only takes advantage, but I also get better odds with the, uh well, odds bet.
Anyway, sounds like a fun day of gaming. :shaka:
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In 2020, NV voted Brandon over Trump.
2024 Trump over Harris.
Interesting is that Clark County (Vegas) Trump votes increased by 60K and Harris votes compared to Brandon only by 1K. He still loss CC in 2024.
Washoe County (west NV) voted Harris, but increased GOP votes (Trump) by 6K compared to 2020.
Overall Trump won NV by 50K votes. So even though he lost CC, those 60K increase helped him win NV.
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In 2020, NV voted Brandon over Trump.
2024 Trump over Harris.
Interesting is that Clark County (Vegas) Trump votes increased by 60K and Harris votes compared to Brandon only by 1K. He still loss CC in 2024.
Washoe County (west NV) voted Harris, but increased GOP votes (Trump) by 6K compared to 2020.
Overall Trump won NV by 50K votes. So even though he lost CC, those 60K increase helped him win NV.
How many people voted for Trump only because they'd made bets on Trump to win?
Someone needs to do a survey....
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I used to play like that guy, only the pass line. I would miss out on hot shooters. everyone is cheering but me. Then covid hit and I had no choice but to watch lots of YT and learned how to maximize my money. So place bets I play and I don't play pass, unless i'm the shooter. My best roll was 40 mins and I only made 2 points in 40 mins. I hit the ATS also in that session.
Where were you playing at?
Last september at the Wynn, I saw a RSVP table and the guy had the entire bend to himself filled with all banana chips ($1K). I estimated about $250K in that rack bend. He had 2 friends playing on the other end with about $2-5K worth of chips.
This particular session was at Main Street. They allow 20X odds there. I also don't do the passline unless I'm the shooter.
By the way, as I'm typing this I just finished another craps session. This time not so good, lost $500 but had a great time in the hour half or so of shooting craps. We were playing at the Cal where they only allow double odds. Main St. craps tables and all their tables were closed. :grrr:
This game shows that one day you can be a superstar and another day you can be a joe biden. I played with more or less the same degenerate craps shooters from the day before.
We all f*ckn sucked. :rofl: No matter how hard we tried, that damn 7 was lurking everywhere.
Also, the place (Cal and Main St.) along with all of Downtown is packed to the gills. People with their children are everywhere.
I guess people from Hawaii are visiting family in Vegas and the kids are on school break. :thumbsup:
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That's sounds amazing. i've only made enough to keep playing in one session for maybe an hour. I usually walk away when the dice turn evil, which is hopefully after I'm ahead at least double my buy-in. Most often it's after i was able to fight back to even.
it's funny how it's the shooter who gets the credit for a long roll, the blame for when they do PSO, but when you have the dice it's just luck when you PSO on the first roll! :thumbsup:
Your shooter that only bet the PASS line is an example of why I usually play the COME and only a couple place bets -- 6 & 8, maybe 5 & 9 too if the feeling strikes. That way, when someone gets stuck on the same number, the COME bet not only takes advantage, but I also get better odds with the, uh well, odds bet.
Anyway, sounds like a fun day of gaming. :shaka:
Truth be told, I've never experienced a hot table like the one I mentioned. It just stayed hot from 8 in the morning when I jumped on it until it started to die down around 5 in the afternoon.
My wife was texting me repeatedly, asking me if I'm hungry, and to stop before I collapse. I jokingly texted her this is a craps session of a lifetime and I need to be brave and soldier on.
I have a mean feeling I probably won't see a session like this again. But one never knows and I will continue to play craps until I die. Hopefully not while I'm on a heater at the tables. :rofl:
But yeah, most times my craps session comes out similar to how yours are.
For me, the majority of the time I'm just scratching and clawing to try to break even on my buy-in, lol!
But it's a fun and expensive game and I love it. :shaka:
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Truth be told, I've never experienced a hot table like the one I mentioned. It just stayed hot from 8 in the morning when I jumped on it until it started to die down around 5 in the afternoon.
My wife was texting me repeatedly, asking me if I'm hungry, and to stop before I collapse. I jokingly texted her this is a craps session of a lifetime and I need to be brave and soldier on.
I have a mean feeling I probably won't see a session like this again. But one never knows and I will continue to play craps until I die. Hopefully not while I'm on a heater at the tables. :rofl:
But yeah, most times my craps session comes out similar to how yours are.
For me, the majority of the time I'm just scratching and clawing to try to break even on my buy-in, lol!
But it's a fun and expensive game and I love it. :shaka:
I normally play craps as a break from BJ when the cards start cycling for the house.
On a $10 table, I usually buy in for $200 and force myself to not buy in again unless the table gets hot while I'm down to my last 2 chips. Takes money to make money!
Ordinarily I float about even at first, then lose down to about $50 range. Then I somehow make back up to $200+ very quickly. If it's been an hour, I stop at even rather than give back what I almost gave them once already. If the dice are still favorable and the vibe is positive, I'll stick it out but I keep setting minimums for myself -- if I lose down to $X, I'll leave. That way i walk away up for that session.
My #1 gambling rule besides not getting drunk is money management. I try to keep the loses at a minimum per session by only playing with as much as I want to lose. i also set a limit for how much to win before I start thinking about walking away. I don't try to win back everything I'm down over the trip in one session, and i don't keep chasing a turnaround when on a losing streak.
It's much easier to climb out of a shallow hole.
I watched a lady who spent 14 hours and $35K playing blackjack at Binion's. We chatted before I went to bed, and I stopped and played a few hands with her again at least 6 hours later when i came back. I asked the pit boss for a breakfast comp while she was asking for another marker.
After breakfast, I walked toward her table and a crowd had gathered. She finally hit that winning streak. She was betting table max and was about even after more than $40K in loses. I congratulated her and left before she started losing again. I sure as hell wasn't going to sit down. If I played, and she started losing again, I know who everyone watching would blame! :shake:
She apparently had the bankroll to sustain such loses and still have money to gamble. Most people don't. She was also alternating drinking coffee and beer to keep going for so long.
Those with that much cash to play with can withstand the loses until they are able to start winning with table max bets. However, casinos win for the most part because they can outlast most people's bankrolls. You'll be broke and asking for room and food comps if that's how you usually gamble.
I knew a lady from here who started going to Vegas twice a month. I even saw her there twice when I was stopping off for the weekend after a business trip. She was a heavy bettor who loved craps. Her first winning weekend, she made about $45K. She was getting room and airfare comped by MGM. She had a couple of less profitable trips before the bottom fell out. Last trip I was with her playing craps, we ran into a guy that worked in our spaces and his wife. They never played craps before, and we know how beginner's luck can be.
I showed them how you can take your winnings a couple of times before pressing, just to try and take your buy-in off the table and keep playing on your winnings. She, on the other hand, was a press, press, PRESS player, trying to get some big bets paying off when the numbers started repeating. She was also a big fan of betting the hard ways. We played about an hour and the table was pretty packed (Fremont Casino). I walked with $480 profit. The couple won back the $300 they were down from earlier plus another $300 profit between the two of them. Our big gambler was at least $1,200 down. I know she had at least twice that on the layout when the last 7-out was called.
Like Callahan once said, "A man's gotta know his limitations." I'm sure that applies to women, too! :shaka: :geekdanc:
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Well, I went down this morning at 6:45 am to play craps and the crap table was full. Same old degenerates I played with before.
Crap.
I went to Market St. Cafe and sat at the counter (Wife still sleeping) and ordered Steak and Eggs. So hungry since I didn't eat last night after playing craps, just 2 krispy kreme donuts and some M&M's. :rofl:
Very good steak and eggs. Not a graveyard special. It was $19.99 and in my opinion a reasonable and satisfying price and meal. It filled me up.
Gonna wait until 9am. I think they open another table then.
I normally play craps as a break from BJ when the cards start cycling for the house.
On a $10 table, I usually buy in for $200 and force myself to not buy in again unless the table gets hot while I'm down to my last 2 chips. Takes money to make money!
Ordinarily I float about even at first, then lose down to about $50 range. Then I somehow make back up to $200+ very quickly. If it's been an hour, I stop at even rather than give back what I almost gave them once already. If the dice are still favorable and the vibe is positive, I'll stick it out but I keep setting minimums for myself -- if I lose down to $X, I'll leave. That way i walk away up for that session.
My #1 gambling rule besides not getting drunk is money management. I try to keep the loses at a minimum per session by only playing with as much as I want to lose. i also set a limit for how much to win before I start thinking about walking away. I don't try to win back everything I'm down over the trip in one session, and i don't keep chasing a turnaround when on a losing streak.
It's much easier to climb out of a shallow hole.
I watched a lady who spent 14 hours and $35K playing blackjack at Binion's. We chatted before I went to bed, and I stopped and played a few hands with her again at least 6 hours later when i came back. I asked the pit boss for a breakfast comp while she was asking for another marker.
After breakfast, I walked toward her table and a crowd had gathered. She finally hit that winning streak. She was betting table max and was about even after more than $40K in loses. I congratulated her and left before she started losing again. I sure as hell wasn't going to sit down. If I played, and she started losing again, I know who everyone watching would blame! :shake:
She apparently had the bankroll to sustain such loses and still have money to gamble. Most people don't. She was also alternating drinking coffee and beer to keep going for so long.
Those with that much cash to play with can withstand the loses until they are able to start winning with table max bets. However, casinos win for the most part because they can outlast most people's bankrolls. You'll be broke and asking for room and food comps if that's how you usually gamble.
I knew a lady from here who started going to Vegas twice a month. I even saw her there twice when I was stopping off for the weekend after a business trip. She was a heavy bettor who loved craps. Her first winning weekend, she made about $45K. She was getting room and airfare comped by MGM. She had a couple of less profitable trips before the bottom fell out. Last trip I was with her playing craps, we ran into a guy that worked in our spaces and his wife. They never played craps before, and we know how beginner's luck can be.
I showed them how you can take your winnings a couple of times before pressing, just to try and take your buy-in off the table and keep playing on your winnings. She, on the other hand, was a press, press, PRESS player, trying to get some big bets paying off when the numbers started repeating. She was also a big fan of betting the hard ways. We played about an hour and the table was pretty packed (Fremont Casino). I walked with $480 profit. The couple won back the $300 they were down from earlier plus another $300 profit between the two of them. Our big gambler was at least $1,200 down. I know she had at least twice that on the layout when the last 7-out was called.
Like Callahan once said, "A man's gotta know his limitations." I'm sure that applies to women, too! :shaka: :geekdanc:
Interesting stories. A good read and similar to the ones that I have seen over the years visiting Vegas.
Thanks for sharing! :shaka:
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Since you're supposed to lose money, at least you get some good stories out of it.
I found a new YT channel Bluff. He plays at El Cortez a lot and is a heavy craps player. And bubble craps/crapless as well. Like bets greens or blacks and presses to the moon. Then regresses.
FYI, the airport Terminal 3 now has bubble craps.
El Cortez is going to get a crapless table soon.
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This particular session was at Main Street. They allow 20X odds there. I also don't do the passline unless I'm the shooter.
By the way, as I'm typing this I just finished another craps session. This time not so good, lost $500 but had a great time in the hour half or so of shooting craps. We were playing at the Cal where they only allow double odds. Main St. craps tables and all their tables were closed. :grrr:
This game shows that one day you can be a superstar and another day you can be a joe biden. I played with more or less the same degenerate craps shooters from the day before.
We all f*ckn sucked. :rofl: No matter how hard we tried, that damn 7 was lurking everywhere.
Also, the place (Cal and Main St.) along with all of Downtown is packed to the gills. People with their children are everywhere.
I guess people from Hawaii are visiting family in Vegas and the kids are on school break. :thumbsup:
That is one hell of a run. The longest session I've ever had was maybe 3-4 hours with mayb 2-3 hot(ter) shooters where those rolls took a while. Particularly the paying out process when table was filled with money.
I never understood why the tables at the Cal were always full and Main Street less. I mean I think I get why, but the less odds is :grrr: That said, I have close friends where their family loves to play craps at Cal, so we jump on. Had some pretty good sessions there.
I'm like you when I play live poker. Once I'm on the table and in a flow, I don't feel tired, hungry, etc. I can play from say 9 am straight to 9 pm if friends or family didn't want to go eat. Once I leave the table, I typically am hungry, but kind of like since my mind is occupied, I don't notice.
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That is one hell of a run. The longest session I've ever had was maybe 3-4 hours with mayb 2-3 hot(ter) shooters where those rolls took a while. Particularly the paying out process when table was filled with money.
I never understood why the tables at the Cal were always full and Main Street less. I mean I think I get why, but the less odds is :grrr: That said, I have close friends where their family loves to play craps at Cal, so we jump on. Had some pretty good sessions there.
I'm like you when I play live poker. Once I'm on the table and in a flow, I don't feel tired, hungry, etc. I can play from say 9 am straight to 9 pm if friends or family didn't want to go eat. Once I leave the table, I typically am hungry, but kind of like since my mind is occupied, I don't notice.
Vacations Hawaii likes Cal (precovid).
The best long session, I was on a table for 5 hours and was even. Saw others come and go and lose everything.
My problem is that I'm with Mrs. CMO and we often have meal plans. I'm willing to play if i'm hungry, but i dont like having Mrs. CMO wait. Same reason why I no longer play poker. I don't have 7 hours to play in 1 session.
My best roll, 40 mins at Venetian and hit ATS (mentioned above). We were supposed to get breakfast, but like usual, we play a little on the way out to the strip. Mrs. CMO was playing slots for about 30 mins and came by after cause she was done. I then crapped out. That entire roll, I never threw a 7, even on the come out. We have a running gag that when she comes by to see how I'm doing, 7 out comes.
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Vacations Hawaii likes Cal (precovid).
The best long session, I was on a table for 5 hours and was even. Saw others come and go and lose everything.
My problem is that I'm with Mrs. CMO and we often have meal plans. I'm willing to play if i'm hungry, but i dont like having Mrs. CMO wait. Same reason why I no longer play poker. I don't have 7 hours to play in 1 session.
My best roll, 40 mins at Venetian and hit ATS (mentioned above). We were supposed to get breakfast, but like usual, we play a little on the way out to the strip. Mrs. CMO was playing slots for about 30 mins and came by after cause she was done. I then crapped out. That entire roll, I never threw a 7, even on the come out. We have a running gag that when she comes by to see how I'm doing, 7 out comes.
I find I do so much better $$-wise when i travel to Vegas alone or am part of a group that has their own agenda and will let me have mine.
Being social will make you leave a table too soon, stay too long, and become less focused on the game than is helpful. I've stayed because my wife or friend was winning which meant I kept losing after I tried to leave. I've also cashed out in the middle of a hot BJ game because my wife wanted to eat or go somewhere else.
May have been a few times where I left sooner than I would have and it saved me from losing even more money, but that's something I'd never know since I'm no longer playing.
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I find I do so much better $$-wise when i travel to Vegas alone or am part of a group that has their own agenda and will let me have mine.
Being social will make you leave a table too soon, stay too long, and become less focused on the game than is helpful. I've stayed because my wife or friend was winning which meant I kept losing after I tried to leave. I've also cashed out in the middle of a hot BJ game because my wife wanted to eat or go somewhere else.
May have been a few times where I left sooner than I would have and it saved me from losing even more money, but that's something I'd never know since I'm no longer playing.
So last months trip, I was at craps in Resorts World. The table was doing better than average. Mrs. CMO comes by and says "lets eat cheesecake". I said, Ok, after this next shooter. She then told me that she already bought it and wanted to sit down in high limit to eat it (they have tables to eat/drink on) that is about 15 yards away. I ask if she can wait and she said "the cheesecake will get warm if we do".
So I left and while eating I hear cheering. Then a few mins later, more cheering. Then 10 mins later even more. So I went back to see what was up and the guy asked why I left cause I missed a hot shooter. She rolled a lot of inside numbers (which I play) and hit the tall. I estimate I lost at least $400 cause I always bet the ATS and the tall alone pays $150.
I gave Mrs. CMO shit about it, but wasn't mad.
Then later that night I was on 3 card poker and kicking as. Up about $500 and MRs. CMO wanted to go to Panera for soup. I didn't want her to drive alone and eat alone, so I left with her. I told my fellow table mates the craps story and said if someone in my seat hits the progressive (royal flush), I'll be pissed.
Came back and had the same people on the table. Luckily, when I asked how it was for the past hour I was gone, they all said the table go cold as soon as I left. I also gave Mrs.CMO shit about it when we were on the way if the Progressive were to hit. Basically, a $1,000,000 soup. But I also looked at it. even though Mrs.CMO CCW's, if something were to happen to her and I wasn't there, $1 million is nothing.
Often, piss breaks also cost me money. While waiting for her to finish, I play some slots outside the restroom and end up losing from $20-100 by the time she comes out.
BTW, the RW food hall is good, but half of it is closed due to being slow. The spots that are open are very good. The clay pot place. But they stopped serving the food in the hot clay pot as people were stealing them. There is also a mexican kiosk there named Mischa taco's or something. Super good salsas and they have the huge vats of juice (blueberry mojito non-booze).
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Vacations Hawaii likes Cal (precovid).
The best long session, I was on a table for 5 hours and was even. Saw others come and go and lose everything.
My problem is that I'm with Mrs. CMO and we often have meal plans. I'm willing to play if i'm hungry, but i dont like having Mrs. CMO wait. Same reason why I no longer play poker. I don't have 7 hours to play in 1 session.
My best roll, 40 mins at Venetian and hit ATS (mentioned above). We were supposed to get breakfast, but like usual, we play a little on the way out to the strip. Mrs. CMO was playing slots for about 30 mins and came by after cause she was done. I then crapped out. That entire roll, I never threw a 7, even on the come out. We have a running gag that when she comes by to see how I'm doing, 7 out comes.
It's been years (prob 10+) since I've been to Vegas by Vacations Hawaii. I recall choices on hotels and my Dad typically liked Main St for their machines. Blazing 7s was his favorite machines. For me, those trips were either with extended family or with larger groups. I don't mind the Boyd properties, but usually stayed on the strip. Like you (and others), my friends and I had great comps at Venetian and Palazzo for many years after a bunch of trips where we won in a row. They had good rooms, service, and a mix of being nearby other things to do. Super expensive if you don't have comps.
I used to go Vegas with this one friend. If he wasn't on the table with us to start, he was truly a Kiss of Death. That guy I swear if he just came by to check on how we were doing and he even toughed the rail, 7 out! We'd see him approaching and if the table was decent, he'd get the "go away until later" look. I wasn't serious, but with a couple of my friends they were serious. :rofl:
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Ya, timing is or can be everything. Especially in craps. Have seen some wild swings both ways.
One trip I was killing time and was playing Pai Gow. Was up and down for a while. Then my friends came by and we jumped on craps. . . Got pounded on craps and when I was headed to cash out what little chips I had left, I passed by the Pai Gow table. The lady that I was playing with for a while was sitting there and a ton of chips on the table. She hit the 7-card straight flush progressive and she was like "I hit this 2 hands after you left". I typically play the envy, so I would have made money too. . . :(
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i'm a known cooler...
It's been years (prob 10+) since I've been to Vegas by Vacations Hawaii. I recall choices on hotels and my Dad typically liked Main St for their machines. Blazing 7s was his favorite machines. For me, those trips were either with extended family or with larger groups. I don't mind the Boyd properties, but usually stayed on the strip. Like you (and others), my friends and I had great comps at Venetian and Palazzo for many years after a bunch of trips where we won in a row. They had good rooms, service, and a mix of being nearby other things to do. Super expensive if you don't have comps.
I used to go Vegas with this one friend. If he wasn't on the table with us to start, he was truly a Kiss of Death. That guy I swear if he just came by to check on how we were doing and he even toughed the rail, 7 out! We'd see him approaching and if the table was decent, he'd get the "go away until later" look. I wasn't serious, but with a couple of my friends they were serious. :rofl:
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It's been years (prob 10+) since I've been to Vegas by Vacations Hawaii. I recall choices on hotels and my Dad typically liked Main St for their machines. Blazing 7s was his favorite machines. For me, those trips were either with extended family or with larger groups. I don't mind the Boyd properties, but usually stayed on the strip. Like you (and others), my friends and I had great comps at Venetian and Palazzo for many years after a bunch of trips where we won in a row. They had good rooms, service, and a mix of being nearby other things to do. Super expensive if you don't have comps.
I used to go Vegas with this one friend. If he wasn't on the table with us to start, he was truly a Kiss of Death. That guy I swear if he just came by to check on how we were doing and he even toughed the rail, 7 out! We'd see him approaching and if the table was decent, he'd get the "go away until later" look. I wasn't serious, but with a couple of my friends they were serious. :rofl:
I used Vacations Hawaii for the months they had cheap package deals and i was taking my wife. Ordinarily I went to Vegas alone as part of a business trip. I'd normally travel on Sunday, go to meetings thru Thursday, and have Fri to travel home. I'd reroute my return leg thru Vegas, and I never had to pay the difference. It was always cheaper to travel for at least a week, so coming home Sunday actually saved the government airfare.
My rooms were always comped, and I could get a comp ticket on demand at The Cal for any Boyd's property. If The Cal was full, they comped me for Main Street Station.
Basically, all I needed was cash for playing, tips and incidentals. I'd take a shuttle to/from the airport. I sometimes rented a car if I had other things to do, but normally a cab was fine. This was pre-Uber times.
When you basically get a free trip to Vegas, you can blow a few hundred bucks and still feel like you broke even compared to what air, room and food would have cost. Nowadays, Vegas would be stripping me of my savings in parking fees, resort fees, show prices, food prices. Even if I get food comped, the value of the comp reduces my comp point balance, so a $100 restaurant bill stil costs me in points versus a $50 comp. Also, you still have to tip in cash, so a free $100 meal costs more in tip than a $50 comped meal.
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i'm a known cooler...
That explains the Mr. Freeze haircut.
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Vacations HI isn't what it was precovid. My friends dad used to work part time as a driver and a benefit was free airfare to HI (He's from Maui, but moved to vegas and retired later there). Now, they don't get that benefit anymore, so he quit.
My 1st time there was when I was 21 and we went Vacations HI. My parents paid. At the time, Stardust was available and we stayed there (Where Resorts World is today). Got the 3 meal a day coupons, but didn't use it as we wanted to eat other than HI food. At the time it was Omni Air. Bellagio had $5 war. I only brought $500 in gambling money as I was still a college student and not willing to spend a lot on gambling as I wasn't into it as much then. I was a car guy, so my money went there.
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I retired in 2019, just before covid hit hard. My job was very stressful for me and a Vegas trip and playing craps was a way for me to run away from the daily stress of work.
I used Vacations Hawaii for solo trips when I needed to run away from work. Unfortunately, my wife's job is not as flexible as mine but she gave me her blessings as she knew if I don't blow off some steam I would explode. :rofl:
My Vacation Hawaii solo trips were perfect for me. No need to worry about baggage handling nor transportation to and from the airport. Rooms are part of the pkg. Meal tickets.
All I did was play craps, eat, sleep, then rinse and repeat. I wasn't there for fancy dining, entertainment, not sightseeing. That's for when my wife comes with me.
Yeah. I was a degenerate. My name is QUIETShooter and I am a craps addict.........If there was a craps anonymous group that meets weekly I would be there. :rofl:
drck1000, my opinion why so many people like to play at the Cal when they only offer double odds is because of the family type relationship the dealers, pit bosses, and employees have with the Hawaii people.
Many of the players are old, feeble, and need help playing, especially at the craps table. I believe the dealers treat these seniors with respect and help them play. They have the money (God do they have the money..... :rofl:) but they aren't mentally fast enough to keep up with the craps play.
This is where the dealers come in. Because these people are visiting so often (some every other month) the dealers know their betting patterns, when they like to press, and how they like to spread their chips across the lay-out. You can truly see the Aloha Spirit here at the Cal. Not the Hawaii Supreme Court kind of Aloha Spirit. The true Aloha Spirit.
What is interesting is of course it's easy to remember the dealers. But it's not that easy for the dealers as they work night and day with thousands upon thousands of customers.
But they remember. What I found amazing is that after covid hit, I haven't visited Vegas until early this year. We stayed at the Cal but a certain dealer I remember I didn't see him. I thought he went on to better opportunities since a lot of people were laid off.
So after almost 3 years, I was at the craps table and happened to turn around to look at the other table that had people playing. There he was, smiling and looking at me, and giving me the thumbs up. On his break he came over to me to say hello and gave me a fist bump. Even called me by my name. Amazing.
Awesome dealer, by the way. :thumbsup:
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New Years Eve at the Cal/Main St. Station casinos was very strange. Lots of people with families, along with the usual degenerate gamblers.
Both properties never opened all of their tables. Main St. has 2 (used to be 3) but never opened the other one. The Cal has 3 (one marked as a $25 table) but only had the 2 $15 tables open and never opened the $25 table.
WTF? I could plainly see people wanting to play but couldn't get on the tables (myself included). I remember the "old" days when the Cal had their craps pit and had all 4 (sometimes 5) tables going full blast. Main St. had 3 tables open all the time during busy periods.
Not sure what the penny pinchers at the Boyd Corporation are thinking. Besides their profit margin. Maybe their business plan is working but their customer service has been put on the back burner in my opinion.
Oh well, that's what this thread is all about. The changes in Vegas, many of them not for the better. At least for the average gambler.
This morning I went down to see if I could play craps and what do I see on New Years Day? Craps tables closed at Main St. and the Cal has one crap table open, packed by the same degenerates that seemed like they haven't left the table since yesterday.
Rest of the other customers can suck wind. The New Vegas. Take it or leave it, I guess........
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Prob lack of dealers. Precovid, every casino had at least 1 table open.
Went to NYNY 2 years ago and no table due to no workers. The 3 card poker dealer told me this.
Same at Park MGM.
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Prob lack of dealers. Precovid, every casino had at least 1 table open.
Went to NYNY 2 years ago and no table due to no workers. The 3 card poker dealer told me this.
Same at Park MGM.
It cost a lot for Vegas to shut down for over 2 months. With the airlines also shut down, casinos had no choice.
I'm sure many dealers found other employment while everyone went through pandemic lockdowns, possibly even out of the state.
Four years ago few believed that Las Vegas’ casinos would be forced to close
to minimize the impact of the COVID-19 virus that was rampaging worldwide.
But they did. And the fallout was brutal.
About a month after casinos in Macao were closed for 15 days to slow COVID’s
spread, then-Gov. Steve Sisolak on March 17, 2020 ordered all casinos as well
as restaurants, bars and other nonessential businesses in the state to close for
30 days.
...
As a result of the 78-day closure, the Nevada Gaming Control Board estimated
Nevada’s 219 major casinos lost $6.2 billion, a 25.2 percent decline from revenue
generated a year earlier.
...
An estimated 26,140 people from a workforce of 162,066 lost their jobs and the
unemployment rate soared to 33.4 percent. With demand for travel to Las Vegas
lost, airlines canceled hundreds of flights.
...
Red Rock Resorts never reopened Texas Station and Fiesta Rancho in North
Las Vegas, and Fiesta Henderson. Eventually, those properties would be sold
and demolished for other uses.
Boyd Gaming Corp.’s Eastside Cannery never returned, and the company hasn’t
said what will happen to the property. Boyd’s downtown Las Vegas Main Street
Station was one of the last properties to reopen and Red Rock Resorts ended up
selling the Palms to Southern California’s San Manuel Band of Mission Indians.
MGM survived the pandemic by selling the real estate beneath some of its resorts
to real estate investment trusts.
...
Since the 2020 closure, gaming revenue totals have roared back with three
consecutive years of records over pre-COVID 2019 beginning in 2021. In 2023,
Nevada casinos recorded $15.5 billion after a then-record $13.4 billion in 2021
and $14.8 billion in 2022.
...
While several casino companies continued to pay their employees through the pandemic, unions took circumstances from the pandemic to the bargaining table and negotiated the best contracts in their history.
“The health and safety of employees and guests had always been a top priority,
but now it was a whole different level,” Valentine said. “The resorts hired public
health experts and implemented some of the most comprehensive and well-
researched health and safety plans in the country.”
https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2024/03/16/nation-world-news/four-years-ago-las-vegas-casinos-shut-down-for-78-days-the-fallout-was-brutal/
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drck1000, my opinion why so many people like to play at the Cal when they only offer double odds is because of the family type relationship the dealers, pit bosses, and employees have with the Hawaii people.
Many of the players are old, feeble, and need help playing, especially at the craps table. I believe the dealers treat these seniors with respect and help them play. They have the money (God do they have the money..... :rofl:) but they aren't mentally fast enough to keep up with the craps play.
This is where the dealers come in. Because these people are visiting so often (some every other month) the dealers know their betting patterns, when they like to press, and how they like to spread their chips across the lay-out. You can truly see the Aloha Spirit here at the Cal. Not the Hawaii Supreme Court kind of Aloha Spirit. The true Aloha Spirit.
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Yeah, I see that. However, some of those same folks also complain about the odds, etc. One was one of my best friend's uncle. He used to play quite big and got great comps. We used to play craps at Cal alot with him and had some really good sessions. I am personally more indifferent to the pass line odds, but found it strange that folks complain but still stay/gamble there when there are other properties. That said, the crew loyalty angle wasn't something I personally value that much, but I can certainly see it being important to some. Like Cheers, where everyone knows your name. Certainly don't get that (at least commonly) on the strip. Unless you're some huge whale.
I have one uncle that after he retired was going to Vegas about once a month! Always staying the same place and they definitely know his likes, patterns, etc and more than just craps.
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Yeah, I see that. However, some of those same folks also complain about the odds, etc. One was one of my best friend's uncle. He used to play quite big and got great comps. We used to play craps at Cal alot with him and had some really good sessions. I am personally more indifferent to the pass line odds, but found it strange that folks complain but still stay/gamble there when there are other properties. That said, the crew loyalty angle wasn't something I personally value that much, but I can certainly see it being important to some. Like Cheers, where everyone knows your name. Certainly don't get that (at least commonly) on the strip. Unless you're some huge whale.
I have one uncle that after he retired was going to Vegas about once a month! Always staying the same place and they definitely know his likes, patterns, etc and more than just craps.
There was an interview with a pit boss and craps pass line odds. He said that many dont' even play max odds of 3,4, or 5. Let alone 10X odds at El Cortez or 100x odds at Plaza. So it's a gimmic. Bluff on YT does play 10X odds though. So his $15 bet often has $150 odds.
I don't play passline because then it's more money I have on the table, so it deletes my budget faster.
Same guy explained the why to raising table limits. It's not just about making more money faster. If you raise the limit, then your player with less bankroll wont' be betting more numbers or as high. Example: $5 table, across bet is $32. Player is comfortable with that. Now raise it to a $15 table. And maybe they just play the 6 and 8 for $36 as the same across bet is $96.Triple the players budget. So less chances of him making money as he's playing less numbers. Same with the pass line. $5 pass with say 5X odds (6/8) is a $30 bet. On a $15 table, player is betting pass line with maybe only 2X odds or even odds due to the same amount.
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1) There was an interview with a pit boss and craps pass line odds. He said that many dont' even play max odds of 3,4, or 5. Let alone 10X odds at El Cortez or 100x odds at Plaza. So it's a gimmic. Bluff on YT does play 10X odds though. So his $15 bet often has $150 odds.
2) I don't play passline because then it's more money I have on the table, so it deletes my budget faster.
Same guy explained the why to raising table limits. It's not just about making more money faster. If you raise the limit, then your player with less bankroll wont' be betting more numbers or as high. Example: $5 table, across bet is $32. Player is comfortable with that. Now raise it to a $15 table. And maybe they just play the 6 and 8 for $36 as the same across bet is $96.Triple the players budget. So less chances of him making money as he's playing less numbers. Same with the pass line. $5 pass with say 5X odds (6/8) is a $30 bet. On a $15 table, player is betting pass line with maybe only 2X odds or even odds due to the same amount.
1) Ya, I don't recall going more than 10x on the back. Even when playing the 20x tables at Main Street.
2) I guess that's one method. I typically (or used to) target bets where odds are more to the player's advantage. Yeah, I still see folks playing say $100 pass and backup with say $50 or $100. Their money and I am guessing their method, superstition, style, etc. It is what it is and I am sure it makes sense to them.
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2) I guess that's one method. I typically (or used to) target bets where odds are more to the player's advantage. Yeah, I still see folks playing say $100 pass and backup with say $50 or $100. Their money and I am guessing their method, superstition, style, etc. It is what it is and I am sure it makes sense to them.
1 strategy is if you max out the odds on the pass line cause say it's only 2x, then play the place bet as well. I never see people doing this over the years. IDK if it's cause they don't know about it. As I rarely play the pass line, I have to tell the dealer "including" so he puts my money on the point as well.
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1 strategy is if you max out the odds on the pass line cause say it's only 2x, then play the place bet as well. I never see people doing this over the years. IDK if it's cause they don't know about it. As I rarely play the pass line, I have to tell the dealer "including" so he puts my money on the point as well.
I've seen folks play the place on the point many times. I occasionally did it when wanting to play the point and didn't put anything on the pass line on the come out. If the shooter is my friend, I'll most often play the pass line. If stranger is shooting, depends on the table at the time. I typically just put the place be on the rear pass line, but I've also had the dealers cover the "including" like you.
While I know they are suckers bets, at least in terms of odds, I still play stuff like C&E and/or horn occasionally. I've noticed (maybe wishful thinking) that horns tend to come out in bunches. One of my buddies from college told me that and it stuck. I "know" it's not supposed to happens statistically more than not, but I've had many a time where a $5 horn and 2-3 parlays/presses later turned into a lucrative, if not fun bet. Just for $5.
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So some F1 indirect results are out.
November 2024 Strip
Rooms down $236 million compared to 2023 November.
Up 7% from 2022, but this doesnt' factor in inflation or higher cost of rooms, etc...
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So some F1 indirect results are out.
November 2024 Strip
Rooms down $236 million compared to 2023 November.
Up 7% from 2022, but this doesnt' factor in inflation or higher cost of rooms, etc...
I hope F1 goes away for good. :grrr:
I won a total of $3000 and some change at the craps table. This is after I paid off my credit line markers I took out with the casino.
So I came home and tried to figure out how I did overall after my trip. I figured I should have cleared a $1000 profit after I experienced several big losses at the craps table that I calculated to come out about $2000. But instead of a profit of a thousand, I actually figured a loss of $300.
WTF? Did I drop some money somewhere? :crazy: With my clumsiness that is 100% possible.
Until my wife reminded me that I treated my in-laws 3 times, paid for some meals when it was just me and wifey, and that I didn't figure in my losses playing $1 Video Poker.
I'm so stupid. No wonder I stayed with my wifey all these years..... :thumbsup:
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This video show a guy sitting down at a high-limit baccarat table, buying in with $50K in chips, then proceeding to play $25K chips per hand.
Once he's down a quarter million, he starts tilting and betting 2 chips ($50K) per hand.
After 20 minutes, he leaves in a huff after losing $400K, $350K of which was all on markers.
If I caught the conversation right, he played blackjack before this and had the $50K from that session.
I don't think he's there for the free beverages. :geekdanc: :popcorn:
https://youtu.be/HEbSz5AemCw
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I hope F1 goes away for good. :grrr:
I won a total of $3000 and some change at the craps table. This is after I paid off my credit line markers I took out with the casino.
So I came home and tried to figure out how I did overall after my trip. I figured I should have cleared a $1000 profit after I experienced several big losses at the craps table that I calculated to come out about $2000. But instead of a profit of a thousand, I actually figured a loss of $300.
WTF? Did I drop some money somewhere? :crazy: With my clumsiness that is 100% possible.
Until my wife reminded me that I treated my in-laws 3 times, paid for some meals when it was just me and wifey, and that I didn't figure in my losses playing $1 Video Poker.
I'm so stupid. No wonder I stayed with my wifey all these years..... :thumbsup:
On my phone, I keep a tally of each game p/l. Like even if I play $100 for 1 minute, I track it. This way at the end of my trip or even mid trip, I can see how I'm doing for each game.
I also keep a separate tally for cash tips for valet, bellhop, etc...excluding restaurants.
It is a PITA to do sometimes as need to keep taking my phone out, but it gives me a good FYI guide.
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November gamling results are in. Strip down 4% from Nov 2023. This is about $50million. But up from Nov 2022.
But since the strip was down for the past 4 months and now 5 months, I don't think F1 is having the results the people want. Big casinos control the counsel who approved F1. It isn't the state who approved it or the city and county. Clark County is incorporated or something and has it's own counsel separate from the city and county.
But it is hard to say too as numbers can fluctuate big time, esp if a whale loses big or wins big. Just going based off of some tipping info, traffic, people not traveling due to construction, etc...is what I base my statement on. Plus if you base it off of precovid, so Nov 2019, they are up. But you have to factor in that table mins increased from 50%-200%.
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On my phone, I keep a tally of each game p/l. Like even if I play $100 for 1 minute, I track it. This way at the end of my trip or even mid trip, I can see how I'm doing for each game.
I also keep a separate tally for cash tips for valet, bellhop, etc...excluding restaurants.
It is a PITA to do sometimes as need to keep taking my phone out, but it gives me a good FYI guide.
That's a good idea. I should try that. I used to keep gambling money and spending money (food, taxi, tips, entertainment, etc.) separate but I got lazy this trip.
I used to also use the envelope method for gambling budget per day, and again I got lazy.
I was lucky at the craps tables this trip. I had some decent rolls but the majority of my wins were from some really hot shooters on the table.
Couple of my craps sessions I figure were rare and one in a lifetime experiences although I hope I can have some of those sessions again in the future.
But if my future trips go back to the usual choppy table conditions I always experience, then I need to have more discipline in tracking my spending money, both gambling and otherwise.
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That's a good idea. I should try that. I used to keep gambling money and spending money (food, taxi, tips, entertainment, etc.) separate but I got lazy this trip.
I used to also use the envelope method for gambling budget per day, and again I got lazy.
I was lucky at the craps tables this trip. I had some decent rolls but the majority of my wins were from some really hot shooters on the table.
Couple of my craps sessions I figure were rare and one in a lifetime experiences although I hope I can have some of those sessions again in the future.
But if my future trips go back to the usual choppy table conditions I always experience, then I need to have more discipline in tracking my spending money, both gambling and otherwise.
Every game has a house advantage, so it's best to plan for the worst and hope for the best.
When i take out a marker, i rarely plan to play the full amount. I usually get a $500 marker but only play $200-$250. I put the remainder in a money clip. That keeps my gambling money separate. I put a few ones and 5s in my other front pocket for tips and incidentals and try to remember to use that and my wallet for anything i need to pay for.
From my reading and experience playing blackjack, you should have 10x your minimum bet for an hour session and 10x your session amount for the total needed per day. So, a $25 BJ table means $250 buy-in per session and $2,500 total bankroll per day to sustain losses. $2,500/day x 3 day trip = $7,500 to play at that minimum for that long. My credit limit of $10K works out well for that. Those numbers assume an average of 10 hours playing/day and a certain percentage of winning to help sustain the losses.
Hopefully I make a profit and can pay off the marker before leaving the table. If so, the profit goes in the clip. Markers let me know how well/bad i'm doing if i keep all that separate. When i was $1,800 ahead that last trip on the first night, I paid the marker and had $1,800 profit to play on. That's over 7 {losing) sessions on a $25 table before I need another marker. :thumbsup:
I keep a log in my room of all the gambling money I win, lose and borrow. When I go to the room, i log any markers borrowed, value of any chips in my pockets, and remaining gambling cash. That keeps me current knowing if I'm up, down or even for the trip.
It's a good idea to keep track no matter your method. If you happen to win over $10,000 in a jackpot or cash out that much in chips, you have to fill out an IRS form At the beginning of the next year, the casino will send you a W-2G showing your total winnings the previous year. That is supposed to be reported on your next tax return as income.
Tracking your wins and losses provides documentation for the IRS. You're allowed to deduct losses from winnings, so a $25,000 slot jackpot could be totally voided for tax purposes if you lost at least that much over the calendar year -- but you need to show you tracked your gambling money separately. Marker slips can help show how much you withdrew on credit, so $10,000 in markers and only $10,000 in winnings would cancel out.
Best to track all your play all the time BEFORE you need to document your losses for the IRS. After you hit that jackpot would be too late -- officially.
You may deduct gambling losses only if you itemize your deductions
on Schedule A (Form 1040) and kept a record of your winnings and
losses. The amount of losses you deduct can't be more than the amount
of gambling income you reported on your return. Claim your gambling
losses up to the amount of winnings, as "Other Itemized Deductions."
https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc419
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That's a good idea. I should try that. I used to keep gambling money and spending money (food, taxi, tips, entertainment, etc.) separate but I got lazy this trip.
I used to also use the envelope method for gambling budget per day, and again I got lazy.
I was lucky at the craps tables this trip. I had some decent rolls but the majority of my wins were from some really hot shooters on the table.
Couple of my craps sessions I figure were rare and one in a lifetime experiences although I hope I can have some of those sessions again in the future.
But if my future trips go back to the usual choppy table conditions I always experience, then I need to have more discipline in tracking my spending money, both gambling and otherwise.
I don't have a daily budget, but recognize when on tilt. In general, I keep about $3K in my pocket. Good thing I CCW. When I hit the UTM royal flush on the river, I had $8K in my pocket ($3K starting plus $5K win).
I usually buy in $500 for any given game. But have left after losing $100 often. Last trip we were at Resorts World and they had $15 3 card poker. Lost 5 hands in a row, so I left. $45 a hand ($15 table). Even the deal agreed it was good for me to leave when I was cashing out.
At least with craps, my strategy change is after 3 PSO's. I then hedge with laying the 4 and 10 if they haven't been rolled. And if they have, then I'll play DP enough to cover my place bets. But in general, my stop loss is $500 on craps. Regardless the time spent on the table.
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From my reading and experience playing blackjack, you should have 10x your minimum bet for an hour session and 10x your session amount for the total needed per day. So, a $25 BJ table means $250 buy-in per session and $2,500 total bankroll per day to sustain losses. $2,500/day x 3 day trip = $7,500 to play at that minimum for that long. My credit limit of $10K works out well for that. Those numbers assume an average of 10 hours playing/day and a certain percentage of winning to help sustain the losses.
For craps, it's have enough bankroll for 10 shooters. So depending on your strategy, is what your bankroll would be. Example: I play the inside place bets on a $15 table. So my bankroll should be $660 ($66x10).
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I don't think NV passed any new gun laws for 2025.
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For craps, it's have enough bankroll for 10 shooters. So depending on your strategy, is what your bankroll would be. Example: I play the inside place bets on a $15 table. So my bankroll should be $660 ($66x10).
Craps is a lot more complicated since there are a variety of minimum bet amounts all over the layout. It also varies depending on come out roll versus established point and whether you bet "with" or "against" the dice.
If you don't count the come out rolls, then your common place bets are easier to calculate. The number of come out rolls varies depending on whether 7 or 11 are rolled.
Since i do come bets, I set a max of 3 working come bets with odds. I can calculate that given the table minimum. I will also play the odds bet on the pass line.
Basically, my craps bankroll is $200 to start no matter what the table limit. Depending on the flow, i may buy in for another $200. I have yet to play a TLS table, so I'd have to figure those bets, too. I have a tendency to roll every number on the die which is why I limit my working come bets. Too many times I get a come bet on every number on the board then seven out. It happens so often, if i've been winning and allow the come bets to cover all the numbers, I'll make a bet on Any 7 during a mid-roll come out toss to keep from losing all those working bets. If I forget, at least the odds portion of those come bets are returned -- only the original come bet is working on the come out.
Yeah. It gets complicated. So for craps, i think a max session bankroll is up to whatever you're comfortable losing.
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Craps is a lot more complicated since there are a variety of minimum bet amounts all over the layout. It also varies depending on come out roll versus established point and whether you bet "with" or "against" the dice.
If you don't count the come out rolls, then your common place bets are easier to calculate. The number of come out rolls varies depending on whether 7 or 11 are rolled.
Since i do come bets, I set a max of 3 working come bets with odds. I can calculate that given the table minimum. I will also play the odds bet on the pass line.
Basically, my craps bankroll is $200 to start no matter what the table limit. Depending on the flow, i may buy in for another $200. I have yet to play a TLS table, so I'd have to figure those bets, too. I have a tendency to roll every number on the die which is why I limit my working come bets. Too many times I get a come bet on every number on the board then seven out. It happens so often, if i've been winning and allow the come bets to cover all the numbers, I'll make a bet on Any 7 during a mid-roll come out toss to keep from losing all those working bets. If I forget, at least the odds portion of those come bets are returned -- only the original come bet is working on the come out.
Yeah. It gets complicated. So for craps, i think a max session bankroll is up to whatever you're comfortable losing.
What's TLS?
I've always thought about working my place bets on the come out, but don't want to be mad when everyones cheering cause a 7 came out. Feelings over math. But when I will play crapless, I will be working my place bets.
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What's TLS?
I've always thought about working my place bets on the come out, but don't want to be mad when everyones cheering cause a 7 came out. Feelings over math. But when I will play crapless, I will be working my place bets.
I meant TAS -- Tall -- All -- Small. I tried to avoid saying TSA! :rofl:
Too many Ls in the name. confused me!
I never cheer when 7 rolls and i win a small rebate on the come layout. I probably lost more than that on the pass line alone.
Sometimes, if the dice seem to be rolling each number twice before 7, I'll place the inside numbers and a come bet. If the come bet moves to a placed number, I use those winnings to make the odds bet in it -- down with odds. If the dice aren't seven-ing out too soon, the place bets feeding the extra come bet odds works nicely. Then, if the same number cycles many times, the come bet makes more and more since the odds pay higher than the 1:1 base come bet.
There's a method to taking advantage of come bets and protecting them from come out rolls. Not difficult, but to me it makes them better than place bets if you're not lucky enough to keep pressing and repeating the same numbers. Come bets only need one repeater to make money, and if you have another come bet placed when an earlier one wins, the dealer add the odds and slides you the reminder.
i've only increased my base come bet a few times when numbers were repeating like crazy. Normally, a $5 table means an average of $15 when the bet is established. If I played a $15 table that included minimum $15 come bets, I assume i'd be making $45 bets on each established come bet. That's a bit rich for my blood! 3 come bets plus the pass line with double odds would be 4 x $45 = $180. That's my starting bankroll almost.
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I meant TAS -- Tall -- All -- Small. I tried to avoid saying TSA! :rofl:
Too many Ls in the name. confused me!
I never cheer when 7 rolls and i win a small rebate on the come layout. I probably lost more than that on the pass line alone.
Sometimes, if the dice seem to be rolling each number twice before 7, I'll place the inside numbers and a come bet. If the come bet moves to a placed number, I use those winnings to make the odds bet in it -- down with odds. If the dice aren't seven-ing out too soon, the place bets feeding the extra come bet odds works nicely. Then, if the same number cycles many times, the come bet makes more and more since the odds pay higher than the 1:1 base come bet.
There's a method to taking advantage of come bets and protecting them from come out rolls. Not difficult, but to me it makes them better than place bets if you're not lucky enough to keep pressing and repeating the same numbers. Come bets only need one repeater to make money, and if you have another come bet placed when an earlier one wins, the dealer add the odds and slides you the reminder.
i've only increased my base come bet a few times when numbers were repeating like crazy. Normally, a $5 table means an average of $15 when the bet is established. If I played a $15 table that included minimum $15 come bets, I assume i'd be making $45 bets on each established come bet. That's a bit rich for my blood! 3 come bets plus the pass line with double odds would be 4 x $45 = $180. That's my starting bankroll almost.
It's "ATS" All, Tall, Small.
Or
5,5,5 or toss chips at the stickman and say 1,3,1 or 25,25,25; etc.... They will know what you want.
Playing the come has an advantage as you protect at least the bet from the 7. But the disadvantage is that you need the number to hit twice. So a place bet wins more cause the initial come bet is even money. And it can lose more if the 7 comes before any # hits.
Craps has been around for a long time and people have tried to figure out the best strategy. Some are better than others, but luck is still needed. So in the end, you play what you want to have fun.
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For craps, it's have enough bankroll for 10 shooters. So depending on your strategy, is what your bankroll would be. Example: I play the inside place bets on a $15 table. So my bankroll should be $660 ($66x10).
Yes, I do this also.
I play 96 across so I buy in for $1001. My SIL likes to give people a dollar with the 4 numbers on the bill having a 7 for good luck. So I include this dollar bill when I buy in at craps. She constantly looks at dollar bills and save these for Vegas trips.
More than once when the boxman counts out the bills he hesitates at that dollar. Then he looks at me and I smile and nod my head like a bobble head doll on the dashboard of a car. :rofl:
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It's "ATS" All, Tall, Small.
Or
5,5,5 or toss chips at the stickman and say 1,3,1 or 25,25,25; etc.... They will know what you want.
Playing the come has an advantage as you protect at least the bet from the 7. But the disadvantage is that you need the number to hit twice. So a place bet wins more cause the initial come bet is even money. And it can lose more if the 7 comes before any # hits.
Craps has been around for a long time and people have tried to figure out the best strategy. Some are better than others, but luck is still needed. So in the end, you play what you want to have fun.
The only winning strategy i ever heard for craps was to only bet the "Don't" bets -- against the dice. If it's good enough odds for the house, it's good enough for the player. The problem, as you said, is the other players getting pissed when the table turns cold and you're making bank!
Of course, to really take advantage of those bets, you need to lay odds, meaning you win less than you risk. But, based on the dice, the odds of that bet winning is higher -- hence the need to offer the house a better edge when the odds greatly favor hitting a 7 before, say, a 4 or 10.
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The only winning strategy i ever heard for craps was to only bet the "Don't" bets -- against the dice. If it's good enough odds for the house, it's good enough for the player. The problem, as you said, is the other players getting pissed when the table turns cold and you're making bank!
Of course, to really take advantage of those bets, you need to lay odds, meaning you win less than you risk. But, based on the dice, the odds of that bet winning is higher -- hence the need to offer the house a better edge when the odds greatly favor hitting a 7 before, say, a 4 or 10.
The math says DP is the bet to do. With 1 of 6 rolls that is supposed to be a 7. I think the 1% house advantage though is based on pass with max odds and not on the DP.
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Yeah, because the majority of players play the right side, the dark side is not looked to well amongst the majority.
I like when I play alone at the table. Fun because I try all sorts of things like dark side and other strategies that require a lot of work for the dealers.
On a busy table some strategies that require the dealer to set up across then take it all down is frowned upon.
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Yeah, because the majority of players play the right side, the dark side is not looked to well amongst the majority.
I like when I play alone at the table. Fun because I try all sorts of things like dark side and other strategies that require a lot of work for the dealers.
On a busy table some strategies that require the dealer to set up across then take it all down is frowned upon.
Many years ago, before I knew how to bet to maximize my profits (play place #s), I was at NYNY and on an empty table. I was only betting like $10 on pass and 1-2X odds. I had already made 2 points. THen this guy comes and bets $600 in DP. I made my point. He then bet $800 on DP and I made that point too. He then left. The dealers all laughed when he left.
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The math says DP is the bet to do. With 1 of 6 rolls that is supposed to be a 7. I think the 1% house advantage though is based on pass with max odds and not on the DP.
Yes. The only time the dice odds are in the player's advantage is on the come out roll, when a 7 wins automatically -- and the 11 helps the odds slightly. Come bets are nothing more than a pass line bet you can place after the come out roll, so that bet has the same mechanics and advantages as a pass line bet.
The odds bets are a double edge sword. When that bet wins you make more than you risked. If you happen to win 5 out of 10 come bets with odds, you made more money than you lost. How much more depends on the pay out for each number that won. Rolling a 4 and 10 will pay double the odds bet.
The downside is, the odds on the pass line only work after the come out roll, at which point the house has the advantage with the odds of a 7 coming up. Winning on a come out roll only pays even money on the pass bet.
This sheet shows the house edge is 0% for odds bets on the pass line and come bets. if memory serves, that's a rounded number. The real number i remember seeing was a very small fraction.
https://www.controlledcraps.com/craps-payouts-odds-chart/
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This sheet shows the house edge is 0% for odds bets on the pass line and come bets. if memory serves, that's a rounded number. The real number i remember seeing was a very small fraction.
https://www.controlledcraps.com/craps-payouts-odds-chart/
It's less than 1% is what is the common saying. IIRC it's like 0.41%.
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It's less than 1% is what is the common saying. IIRC it's like 0.41%.
I believe that's if you combine the base bet's odds once it's established to the odds bet's odds. The odds bet alone is not in the house's favor.
Base bet odds:
The House Edge on Come Bets
Like all casino games, craps has a built-in advantage for the house, known
as the “house edge.” The house edge on come bets is slightly lower than the
one on pass line bets, but it is still present.
In craps, the house edge is determined by the number of ways a player can
win or lose and the payout odds for each possible outcome.
For come bets, the house edge is 1.41% on the 4 and 10, 1.52% on the 5
and 9, and 1.82% on the 6 and 8. This means that, on average, the casino
will keep a certain percentage of every come bet placed on these numbers.
"Odds bet" odds
One way to reduce the house edge on come bets is to take “free odds.”
Free odds are an additional bet that you can place after a come bet or pass line
bet, and they pay out at true odds rather than the lower odds that the casino pays
on the original wager.
Free odds bets are placed on the layout behind the pass line or come area and
are usually marked with the words “free odds.”
For example, if the point is a 6 or 8, the true odds of rolling the point again before
rolling a 7 are 6:5.
This means that if you place a $5 free odds bet on the 6 or 8, you’ll receive a payout
of $6 if the point is rolled again. Free odds bets have no house edge, meaning
the casino doesn’t have an advantage on these bets.
https://www.artofcraps.com/craps-bets/the-come-bet/
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I don't have a daily budget, but recognize when on tilt. In general, I keep about $3K in my pocket. Good thing I CCW. When I hit the UTM royal flush on the river, I had $8K in my pocket ($3K starting plus $5K win).
I usually buy in $500 for any given game. But have left after losing $100 often. Last trip we were at Resorts World and they had $15 3 card poker. Lost 5 hands in a row, so I left. $45 a hand ($15 table). Even the deal agreed it was good for me to leave when I was cashing out.
At least with craps, my strategy change is after 3 PSO's. I then hedge with laying the 4 and 10 if they haven't been rolled. And if they have, then I'll play DP enough to cover my place bets. But in general, my stop loss is $500 on craps. Regardless the time spent on the table.
i remember the first time playing 3 card poker at The Cal. i was head-to-head with the dealer, and she kept beating my hand no matter what i had. This dude walked up and sat to my left. He won every hand he played and left when I left. After an hour having an early breakfast, it hit me. He was watching the flow of the cards for awhile. When he saw the dealer making very good hands, he started taking her cards. When I left, he figured he'd be getting my crappy hands and left, too.
That's what I try to do now. Any poker game, I see if the dealer is getting hands. If not, i avoid jumping in and causing them to get better cards. if so, i try to get third base so i can take those good cards.
Live and learn.
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i remember the first time playing 3 card poker at The Cal. i was head-to-head with the dealer, and she kept beating my hand no matter what i had. This dude walked up and sat to my left. He won every hand he played and left when I left. After an hour having an early breakfast, it hit me. He was watching the flow of the cards for awhile. When he saw the dealer making very good hands, he started taking her cards. When I left, he figured he'd be getting my crappy hands and left, too.
That's what I try to do now. Any poker game, I see if the dealer is getting hands. If not, i avoid jumping in and causing them to get better cards. if so, i try to get third base so i can take those good cards.
Live and learn.
Gotta be aware that some casinos, the dealer gets their cards first for poker type games. Cause I used to play 2 hands to change the vibe if I saw the dealer always wnning too. Then I noticed what I stated. But what I do try to do is sit in #1 position so people coming in don't affect my cards. I began doing this when playing UTH at Resorts World. A lady sat to my right and she was getting full houses very often.
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Gotta be aware that some casinos, the dealer gets their cards first for poker type games. Cause I used to play 2 hands to change the vibe if I saw the dealer always wnning too. Then I noticed what I stated. But what I do try to do is sit in #1 position so people coming in don't affect my cards. I began doing this when playing UTH at Resorts World. A lady sat to my right and she was getting full houses very often.
Good point. That's been stated in many gambling videos on YT as well.
Seems in most card games, there's a hot seat and an ice cold seat. i've had people come in on my right and start winning like crazy with "my" cards. Really dampens the fun!
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That's why I like Pai Gow. First hand randomized, or at least was on tables I usually played.
For 3Card Poker, I used to enjoy playing that for the "mindless" factor. I also tried to sit first to dealer's left for first cards dealt aspect, and not "subject" to folks jumping in and out. In theory random, but. . . not superstitious per se, but maybe irrational belief haha.
Similar with new cards. I've been on tables many times where there's been a really bad run of cards. You can request new cards and I've typically seen the pit boss allow. Especially when you've either been playing for a while or have played a lot there recently.
Another game I got into recently was bacarrat. So interesting the table dynamics. A few friends and I like to play on tables with just us. So many times, we were on a table and then some of "those people" joined and started complaining about the cards.
Craps is still by far my favorite, but also the most volatile.
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what do you mean, "those people"?...
That's why I like Pai Gow. First hand randomized, or at least was on tables I usually played.
For 3Card Poker, I used to enjoy playing that for the "mindless" factor. I also tried to sit first to dealer's left for first cards dealt aspect, and not "subject" to folks jumping in and out. In theory random, but. . . not superstitious per se, but maybe irrational belief haha.
Similar with new cards. I've been on tables many times where there's been a really bad run of cards. You can request new cards and I've typically seen the pit boss allow. Especially when you've either been playing for a while or have played a lot there recently.
Another game I got into recently was bacarrat. So interesting the table dynamics. A few friends and I like to play on tables with just us. So many times, we were on a table and then some of "those people" joined and started complaining about the cards.
Craps is still by far my favorite, but also the most volatile.
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what do you mean, "those people"?...
Take a guess…
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IDK how NV did it in the past, but as of a few years ago and to today, they will not detain an illegal unless they committed a violent crime or has a warrant. Which means if they get caught speeding, then LVMPD will issue a ticket and then they're free to go.
They do have authority to do so, even though they're not a federal LEO. It's estimated that there are about 47,000 illegals in NV. IDK how much in Vegas, but I assume most are in Vegas due to it having the highest population of all counties (Clark County).
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Palms is doing what no other casino has done yet. $5 Blackjack and Craps, at least 1 table of each open 24/7. They figured out the people coming for their buffet aren't playing $15 tables. Eat and leave.
I hope downtown goes back to $5 tables. I mean, Downtown Grand has a $1 BJ table, but it's only 1 table and often full. But I doubt they will as they've found their new clientel. The cheap, middle income Vegas tourist. They don't want to eat at above average causal eats, but want cheap, shitty food.
Main Streets Buffet is back daily. It's been weekends only since they reopened. Def not worth the price as the quality looks like it went down since precovid. It's the only buffet downtown now.
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Palms is doing what no other casino has done yet. $5 Blackjack and Craps, at least 1 table of each open 24/7. They figured out the people coming for th.eir buffet aren't playing $15 tables. Eat and leave.
I hope downtown goes back to $5 tables. I mean, Downtown Grand has a $1 BJ table, but it's only 1 table and often full. But I doubt they will as they've found their new clientel. The cheap, middle income Vegas tourist. They don't want to eat at above average causal eats, but want cheap, shitty food.
Main Streets Buffet is back daily. It's been weekends only since they reopened. Def not worth the price as the quality looks like it went down since precovid. It's the only buffet downtown now.
$5 tables Downtown would be nice. But I will settle for $10. $15 is too much for Downtown gamblers in my opinion.
Don't laugh but the Cal used to have a mini-breakfast buffet daily at the Market St. Cafe before covid. It was really cheap, forget what the price was but the items were minimal, just basic eggs, bacon, canned fruit, etc. and oatmeal upon request.
I really liked this mini set-up since I just wanted bacon, eggs, toast and coffee real quick before heading out for the day. My wife loved the oatmeal upon request with canned prunes, lol!
This past trip we ventured out of our usual dining routine, partly because at many places options were sparse and their operating hours were limited.
In a way it was a good thing because we checked out Binions Cafe, Four Queen's Magnolias Cafe, and even ventured out to El Cortez to eat at Siegal's 1941 restaurant for their famous Prime Rib. We found out they all had some pretty good stuff to offer at reasonable prices.
I'm an old fut and just like playing craps and eating at regular places so the Strip nowadays holds no interest for me.
What I find interesting is that on YouBoob there is a lot of video content of how people are getting disgusted with the Strip and end up going to Local casinos or Downtown.
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Palms is doing what no other casino has done yet. $5 Blackjack and Craps, at least 1 table of each open 24/7. They figured out the people coming for their buffet aren't playing $15 tables. Eat and leave.
I hope downtown goes back to $5 tables. I mean, Downtown Grand has a $1 BJ table, but it's only 1 table and often full. But I doubt they will as they've found their new clientel. The cheap, middle income Vegas tourist. They don't want to eat at above average causal eats, but want cheap, shitty food.
Main Streets Buffet is back daily. It's been weekends only since they reopened. Def not worth the price as the quality looks like it went down since precovid. It's the only buffet downtown now.
$1 to $10 minimum bet BJ tables are IMO beginners' tables. i prefer tables where everyone has at least a basic idea of how to play and a rudimentary understanding of the game's strategy.
The fewer tables with small minimums, the more often beginners will be at the higher minimum tables.
Even though I'm not interested in playing low minimum tables, I appreciate casinos offering them.
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$1 to $10 minimum bet BJ tables are IMO beginners' tables. i prefer tables where everyone has at least a basic idea of how to play and a rudimentary understanding of the game's strategy.
The fewer tables with small minimums, the more often beginners will be at the higher minimum tables.
Even though I'm not interested in playing low minimum tables, I appreciate casinos offering them.
$3 tables at Fremont were nice. Esp since even when not at that limit, you can ask the pit boss and they would approve it. I'm playing the $5 craps table and betting $10 mins and Mrs. CMO $3 field bets.
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$3 tables at Fremont were nice. Esp since even when not at that limit, you can ask the pit boss and they would approve it. I'm playing the $5 craps table and betting $10 mins and Mrs. CMO $3 field bets.
Yeah, when $5 was the minimum for most of the local and Downtown casinos I still played at the $10 level but it was nice to know that if I was getting killed there is that option to go down to $5 bets.
Back then once in a while the Cal and MSS would open a $10 minimum table and I would jump on that one because there are less players willing to play at the $10 level.
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Yeah, when $5 was the minimum for most of the local and Downtown casinos I still played at the $10 level but it was nice to know that if I was getting killed there is that option to go down to $5 bets.
Back then once in a while the Cal and MSS would open a $10 minimum table and I would jump on that one because there are less players willing to play at the $10 level.
Since Downtown Grand has 1 $1BJ table that's often filled. Wait to get a seat and bet greens. Piss everyone off.
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Since Downtown Grand has 1 $1BJ table that's often filled. Wait to get a seat and bet greens. Piss everyone off.
Why would that piss anyone off? Betting more than the minimum isn't the same as playing your hand like an ignorant first-timer. In fact, if you're on a winning streak, you'd be increasing your bets anyway to capitalize.
You can bet up to the table max on any table. if anyone is pissed you aren't betting the minimum, they don't understand table gaming.
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Why would that piss anyone off? Betting more than the minimum isn't the same as playing your hand like an ignorant first-timer. In fact, if you're on a winning streak, you'd be increasing your bets anyway to capitalize.
You can bet up to the table max on any table. if anyone is pissed you aren't betting the minimum, they don't understand table gaming.
It's cause you're taking up the seat for the person who wants to bet $1 or $2. A $25 a hand player can play at another table.
at the same time, if one is betting greens or more, then having noobs at the table who arebetting $1 isn't a good thing either.
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It's cause you're taking up the seat for the person who wants to bet $1 or $2. A $25 a hand player can play at another table.
at the same time, if one is betting greens or more, then having noobs at the table who arebetting $1 isn't a good thing either.
Cards develop a flow pattern after a bunch of shuffles, especially in single and double deck games. if i'm playing at a $1 or $3 table, and the cards turn favorable for the players, raising the bet between that and table max is no business of anyone's other than the house and me.
According to your scenario, the pissed people are people who aren't playing and want your seat. The other players have a seat. Someone wanting your seat can find another table, another game, or find something else to do while they wait for a seat.
If you really think about it, someone playing $25 hands with a $250 bankroll (10 units) will lose it faster than the guy playing $1 bets on a $50 bankroll (50 units). Getting pissed makes zero sense to me.
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Getting pissed makes zero sense to me.
The $1 table is designed for people who cannot afford or intimidated by betting more. Since there is only 1 table, someone who has no issue betting greens should be at a regular table so someone who wants to bet $1 can play. You are correct that it's no bodys business what you're betting, it's just a courtesy. It's the only $1 table that's always open, so people do make it a point to go to the DTG just to play it.
Look at it not from a math POV, but from a noob or someone whos intimidated at betting $15 a hand.
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This is why on my last trip I was pretty upset at the Cal and MSS for not opening more tables when it got busy. You could clearly see that many people wanted to play but there was no room on the 1 table that was open.
What is more upsetting is that the table that is open is occupied by what I call "rail birds". They occupy a slot at the table but they are not playing. They are waiting for a hot roller, preciously clutching their small bankroll that is clearly not enough to withstand the variance of a $15 minimum table.
When it is their turn to roll they pass the dice. Taking up space and bringing nothing to the table.
If mgt. is not willing to chase the rail birds away, they should at least open up another table, but now labor costs or worker availability comes into play.
Maybe a new rule needs to be added. You take up a space at the table, you must make at least one bet on every new come-out.
The rail birds will soon lose their underfunded bankroll and another person would be able to play. Sounds cruel but I'm not the one that bumped the minimums up and only opens one table, thereby hurting the casino themselves while hurting others who came to play, shut out by the rail birds with their dreams of making millions off their $40 grocery and milk money.
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The $1 table is designed for people who cannot afford or intimidated by betting more. Since there is only 1 table, someone who has no issue betting greens should be at a regular table so someone who wants to bet $1 can play. You are correct that it's no bodys business what you're betting, it's just a courtesy. It's the only $1 table that's always open, so people do make it a point to go to the DTG just to play it.
Look at it not from a math POV, but from a noob or someone whos intimidated at betting $15 a hand.
Then, I guess casinos that only offer 0-1 table at very low minimums are being discourteous to their customers.
i have no idea if the people at a $1 table can afford to play at a $25 table or are experienced enough to know how to play. For all I know they are just socializing with their friends or family at that table. Forcing them to leave to play at a higher minimum table seems more discourteous by splitting them up from their group.
There's too many assumptions in your comments. i've watched players sit at the $5 table and turn their $20 buy-in into $50. They then take that over to a $25 table to try and turn it into $100. They jump in, play 2-3 hands normally, then walk away when their $50 is gone. In the process, they usually screw up a favorable shuffle -- often taking a dealer's bust card or helping them make 21. Most experienced players will pull their bets back until that person leaves.
Courtesy isn't a big priority when gambling for the non-regulars. It's all about making the right bet at the right table at the right time.
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People are using the wrong gambling strategy in Vegas. Spending long days and nights gambling in the smoke filled rooms.
Put down $2000 on the tables or high roller slot machines, play a few times, then call it quits and enjoy the rest of the time exploring vegas
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People are using the wrong gambling strategy in Vegas. Spending long days and nights gambling in the smoke filled rooms.
Put down $2000 on the tables or high roller slot machines, play a few times, then call it quits and enjoy the rest of the time exploring vegas
I like to engage in both of the above activities, depending on the plans for the day or if I am with my wife or family or alone by myself.
But no smoke filled rooms. I hate smoke.
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I've noticed since covid, the heavy smoke smell is like 90% reduced. When we would come home, our clothes would smell like smoke. But since covid, it hasn't. I also don't see as many smoking as precovid.
I enjoy this.
There is 1 smoke free casino on the strip, Park MGM. But they don't have many slots or tables.
Besides exploring, pre Buren, we went and enjoyed CCWing everywhere. Something that couldn't be done in HI since HI wasn't issuing CCW's.
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Pin Up Pizza outside of Planet Hollywood sells 30 inch pizzas that are thin crust for $80. What a rip off. Maybe their target audience are drunk guys. For 1 slice that is the size of Boston Pizza, $14 for cheese. I'd rather go into PH's 24/7 cafe and eat there.
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Pin Up Pizza outside of Planet Hollywood sells 30 inch pizzas that are thin crust for $80. What a rip off. Maybe their target audience are drunk guys. For 1 slice that is the size of Boston Pizza, $14 for cheese. I'd rather go into PH's 24/7 cafe and eat there.
This is one of countless other complaints of rip-offs on the Strip. Ranging from cost of regular bottles of water to bar type foods costing like steak dinners.
Many YT content on people migrating to off-strip properties or Downtown. The Strip is destroying itself. They seem to think the affluent demographic will hold them up.
In my opinion they won't. The F1 debacle is a good example. The Strip is literally biting the hands that feed them.
Sure we are the minnows of the sea but there are millions and millions of us.
I have my popcorn and am watching how all of this plays out.
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This is one of countless other complaints of rip-offs on the Strip. Ranging from cost of regular bottles of water to bar type foods costing like steak dinners.
Many YT content on people migrating to off-strip properties or Downtown. The Strip is destroying itself. They seem to think the affluent demographic will hold them up.
In my opinion they won't. The F1 debacle is a good example. The Strip is literally biting the hands that feed them.
Sure we are the minnows of the sea but there are millions and millions of us.
I have my popcorn and am watching how all of this plays out.
This is why I watch the gaming numbers released every month. Then compare it to the prior years. The hard part is that you have to go back to pre covid to get a better idea of what the average gaming revenue was.
Vegas isn't for the middle income or less person now. I mean you can still come to vegas as that type of income level, but good luck gambling and you have to do your homeowner before coming to find cheaper places on the strip to eat. The $9.99 steak is gone and it's now $14.99 at El Cortez. Or eat at McDonalds and get a $3 cheeseburger. Which IMO eating is 1 fun part of a vacation. So if you're going to eat at the same fast food places you have at home like McDonalds, then you should vacay elsewhere that's more affordable. But this is just me, I'm a fatty.
Or you have to save your money so you can spend it there.
This hits the HI market hard because we can't just drive over to Vegas, but must spend $400-800 to fly. I met a local guy playing craps and he lived in VA. He was meeting family in Vegas, he said his round trip ticket from VA to Vegas was $100 or so.
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This is why I watch the gaming numbers released every month. Then compare it to the prior years. The hard part is that you have to go back to pre covid to get a better idea of what the average gaming revenue was.
Vegas isn't for the middle income or less person now. I mean you can still come to vegas as that type of income level, but good luck gambling and you have to do your homeowner before coming to find cheaper places on the strip to eat. The $9.99 steak is gone and it's now $14.99 at El Cortez. Or eat at McDonalds and get a $3 cheeseburger. Which IMO eating is 1 fun part of a vacation. So if you're going to eat at the same fast food places you have at home like McDonalds, then you should vacay elsewhere that's more affordable. But this is just me, I'm a fatty.
Or you have to save your money so you can spend it there.
This hits the HI market hard because we can't just drive over to Vegas, but must spend $400-800 to fly. I met a local guy playing craps and he lived in VA. He was meeting family in Vegas, he said his round trip ticket from VA to Vegas was $100 or so.
Even before COVID, i know several women who went to Vegas for vacation every year or two, but never gambled more than $20 in a slot machine in case it was her turn to win the million$$$. They would enjoy the hotel room, pool, food, sometimes spa treatments, live shows and 'retail therapy'. They figured instead of losing $1,000+ on games they would spend it on actual relaxation.
However, now that the properties are so expensive with resort fees, parking fees, higher food and drink prices, and so on, those expenses may convince some to opt for places where their travel budget goes further or to spend that same high amount in a tropical or ski location rather than the middle of a fricking desert!
Comps used to be the balancing factor in a Vegas vacation. Lately, I'm not sure those are enough to justify a moderate gambler's vacation expenses given the increases in fees and prices.
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Those everyday average Americans who love to visit Vegas several or more times a year are the ones who will get hit the hardest as the prices continue to climb.
I used to be one of those people. ;D
But funny how things work out. I'm retired now, wife and I watch our grandson and great-grandson 5 days a week and sometimes on weekends also. The only time we catch a break and even think about a Vegas trip would be towards the end of the year when both my daughter and grandaughter (teachers) get a winter break.
So if I get lucky I can do a once a year Vegas trip. I'm ok with that. My spending and gambling bankrolls actually get larger and I no longer have the "joneses" to visit more often.
I enjoy craps, eating prime rib, going to low and high end buffets, and visiting 24 hr. cafes. Rinse and repeat. I'm afraid these are the very aspects of Vegas that are slowly going the way of the dodo bird.
Maybe then I'll change and do vacations to Japan, Okinawa, and Korea. I heard that North Korea is relaxing it's Tourism industry so maybe I'll pay Kim Jong Un a visit. ;)
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Those everyday average Americans who love to visit Vegas several or more times a year are the ones who will get hit the hardest as the prices continue to climb.
I used to be one of those people. ;D
But funny how things work out. I'm retired now, wife and I watch our grandson and great-grandson 5 days a week and sometimes on weekends also. The only time we catch a break and even think about a Vegas trip would be towards the end of the year when both my daughter and grandaughter (teachers) get a winter break.
So if I get lucky I can do a once a year Vegas trip. I'm ok with that. My spending and gambling bankrolls actually get larger and I no longer have the "joneses" to visit more often.
I enjoy craps, eating prime rib, going to low and high end buffets, and visiting 24 hr. cafes. Rinse and repeat. I'm afraid these are the very aspects of Vegas that are slowly going the way of the dodo bird.
Maybe then I'll change and do vacations to Japan, Okinawa, and Korea. I heard that North Korea is relaxing it's Tourism industry so maybe I'll pay Kim Jong Un a visit. ;)
I know many people in the past year who went to japan for $600. Compare this to Hawaiian Airlines $700 to go to VEgas. 10hr flight vs 5hr flight. Which means jack up the price cause HI people want to go. MOre and more are opting to go to Japan, esp with the better currency rate in our favor.
Precovid, Japan was like $1500 on average. Right now to Taiwan is about $1K. Precovid it was $1500.
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We've been to Japan a while back. Great experience but it was really hard getting out and about.
What I plan to do differently is sign up for a pkg. tour. They're expensive but puts less stress on me and I can just enjoy the trip.
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We've been to Japan a while back. Great experience but it was really hard getting out and about.
What I plan to do differently is sign up for a pkg. tour. They're expensive but puts less stress on me and I can just enjoy the trip.
How long ago? Like before smart phones? My cousin went a while ago before American smartphones and said the same. Then went recently and had no issues. His hardest part was making sure he was able to access the internet in Japan. Once that was set up, easy peasy.
I'm not a fan of tours cause I want to do my own thing on my own time line. My parents go with Kobayashi Travel cause they do more country side tours.
When we go to Japan, I want to take a nap in a capsule hotel if need be.
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How long ago? Like before smart phones? My cousin went a while ago before American smartphones and said the same. Then went recently and had no issues. His hardest part was making sure he was able to access the internet in Japan. Once that was set up, easy peasy.
I'm not a fan of tours cause I want to do my own thing on my own time line. My parents go with Kobayashi Travel cause they do more country side tours.
When we go to Japan, I want to take a nap in a capsule hotel if need be.
We went in spring of 2007. I think I still had a basic flip phone back then. I agree navigating Japan nowadays is easier due to smartphones.
Yeah, wife and I are more interested in the countryside tours and the festival tours. I want to participate in festivals and crop harvesting and staying in old taverns and eating traditional old style foods. :rofl:
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What can help with old vegas prices is the Last Vegas Trip Advisor book. It cost $50 and has coupons. BOGO free or half off for 1 person.
The buffet at the Westgage is $16 a person with this coupon. This buffet is worth $16 and not $32. Unfortunately, there aren't many MGM properties in the coupon book. The MGM Grand buffet is $33 and not worth it. At most, I'd pay $12.99 for it like precovid days.
Luxor buffet is shutting down at the end of this month. No one is paying $35 for a crappy buffet. Their buffet at most is worth $9.99. I can't believe the Bellagio's buffet is $50-60. For a higher end place, their buffet is total crap and at most worth $22.99.
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What can help with old vegas prices is the Last Vegas Trip Advisor book. It cost $50 and has coupons. BOGO free or half off for 1 person.
The buffet at the Westgage is $16 a person with this coupon. This buffet is worth $16 and not $32. Unfortunately, there aren't many MGM properties in the coupon book. The MGM Grand buffet is $33 and not worth it. At most, I'd pay $12.99 for it like precovid days.
Luxor buffet is shutting down at the end of this month. No one is paying $35 for a crappy buffet. Their buffet at most is worth $9.99. I can't believe the Bellagio's buffet is $50-60. For a higher end place, their buffet is total crap and at most worth $22.99.
Everyone used to love the buffets. They would compare notes on what it cost, the variety and how much they ate for less than the cost of a bucket of KFC chicken.
From my perspective, I can't see paying the buffet prices when most places serve large portions on their regular menu items. For about what the buffet costs, I get more than I can eat from a regular menu, and i get restaurant service.
Given the quality of the selections at the last 3 buffets I tried there, I don't go to any Vegas buffets unless it's an event of some sort.
And, since I usually got comps for the restaurants anyway, price wasn't as big a factor.
If I'm there to gamble, I don't eat many meals anyway. A small snack when I get hungry and a full breakfast is usually plenty. Of course, Krispy Kreme helps keep the tummy happy, too!
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I got the unicorn RSVP for the best buffet in Vegas. Anthony's Steakhouse Brunch at M Resort.
It's hard to book 3-4 months out, so I had to check every few hours every day and got 1. It's like the RSVP system HPD had during covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6mQh_OVbi0&t=8s
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Everyone used to love the buffets. They would compare notes on what it cost, the variety and how much they ate for less than the cost of a bucket of KFC chicken.
From my perspective, I can't see paying the buffet prices when most places serve large portions on their regular menu items. For about what the buffet costs, I get more than I can eat from a regular menu, and i get restaurant service.
Given the quality of the selections at the last 3 buffets I tried there, I don't go to any Vegas buffets unless it's an event of some sort.
And, since I usually got comps for the restaurants anyway, price wasn't as big a factor.
If I'm there to gamble, I don't eat many meals anyway. A small snack when I get hungry and a full breakfast is usually plenty. Of course, Krispy Kreme helps keep the tummy happy, too!
The only buffets today worth going on the strip are Wynn and Bacchanal. For the new price, Wicked Spoon isn't worth it anymore.
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I got the unicorn RSVP for the best buffet in Vegas. Anthony's Steakhouse Brunch at M Resort.
It's hard to book 3-4 months out, so I had to check every few hours every day and got 1. It's like the RSVP system HPD had during covid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6mQh_OVbi0&t=8s
All Right! Good for You! :shaka:
I would like to experience this buffet but like you said it is very hard to get into. I enjoy the YT videos that people post of their experience.
With that being said I miss the buffet they had at the M Resort. I really liked it and the only thing that was a bummer about it is the wait. One time we waited a little over 3 hours. I honestly don't know if I can do that again.
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The only buffets today worth going on the strip are Wynn and Bacchanal. For the new price, Wicked Spoon isn't worth it anymore.
I enjoy the Wynn Buffet because of the ambiance and the interior is very pretty. Also the tables are spaced out where it doesn't seem like you are jammed packed into a small space.
Of course the food is good, fresh, with a lot of varieties. I also appreciate that when you go up to get another plate the table is cleared away of old plates when you get back.
I've been to the Bacchanal several times and it is an awesome buffet as far as food variety, especially the seafood.
It gets so busy that the experience is diminished somewhat. Noisy, crowded, tables are close together, and people seem to be in a hurry to eat their food so they can go up and get more. They should just relax and enjoy.
On our last visit my family was seated at a table that was designed for 3 less people. We were so jammed together there was no elbow room. The whole buffet area was jam packed and the food stations started to suffer. It looked like a pig sty for lack of a better description. The seafood section looked like Hurricane Andrew just passed by.
And the staff were so overwhelmed that when we came back to our tables with new plates of food the old plates were still there. Again, the table was designed for 3 less people so you can imagine what we were going through. At $90 per person this is unacceptable.
I've been to Wicked Spoon only once, when it was fairly new and the talk of the town. It was ok, I liked that they provided Fiji water at the tables. I enjoyed the buffet but honestly, if all you could do was rave about the fried chicken it kinda says it all. But that fried chicken was awesome, LOL!
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I enjoy the Wynn Buffet because of the ambiance and the interior is very pretty. Also the tables are spaced out where it doesn't seem like you are jammed packed into a small space.
Of course the food is good, fresh, with a lot of varieties. I also appreciate that when you go up to get another plate the table is cleared away of old plates when you get back.
I've been to the Bacchanal several times and it is an awesome buffet as far as food variety, especially the seafood.
It gets so busy that the experience is diminished somewhat. Noisy, crowded, tables are close together, and people seem to be in a hurry to eat their food so they can go up and get more. They should just relax and enjoy.
On our last visit my family was seated at a table that was designed for 3 less people. We were so jammed together there was no elbow room. The whole buffet area was jam packed and the food stations started to suffer. It looked like a pig sty for lack of a better description. The seafood section looked like Hurricane Andrew just passed by.
And the staff were so overwhelmed that when we came back to our tables with new plates of food the old plates were still there. Again, the table was designed for 3 less people so you can imagine what we were going through. At $90 per person this is unacceptable.
I've been to Wicked Spoon only once, when it was fairly new and the talk of the town. It was ok, I liked that they provided Fiji water at the tables. I enjoyed the buffet but honestly, if all you could do was rave about the fried chicken it kinda says it all. But that fried chicken was awesome, LOL!
Wicked Spoon hasn't changed much at all, so you're not missing anything if you were to go today. Comapre this to Wynn and Bacch, they update their menu's enough and like every 6 months. THis is why I don't mind spending the money there.
Funny cause we only eat at Wynn buffet and play like $200 worth of slots and I get 1 comp offer every 5 months or so. But nothing from Bellagio.
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I need to try the Bellagio again because the last time (and only time) I went there it was the talk of the town, before Bacchanal and Wicke d spoon came into play.
I really enjoyed it. But now it seems it really went from fantastic to just regular. Some people even say it borders on mediocre. I need to see for myself.
Does anyone remember the Rio buffets in all it's glory? The Rio had 2 buffets: one was called the Carnival World Buffet and it boasted foods from around the world. The other buffet on the property was a smaller buffet called the Rio Seafood buffet.
I went to the Seafood Buffet and really enjoyed it. This was back in 2009 when the Rio was a popular off-strip resort and the 2 buffets were also very popular.
The fresh oysters on the half shell were amazing and besides the crab legs, I pigged out on the shrimp and for the first time ever I was able to have dungeness crab clusters in an all you can eat setting. I still remember that great dining experience as if it was yesterday.
Sadly, just like yesterday, it is gone for good. :(
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I need to try the Bellagio again because the last time (and only time) I went there it was the talk of the town, before Bacchanal and Wicke d spoon came into play.
I really enjoyed it. But now it seems it really went from fantastic to just regular. Some people even say it borders on mediocre. I need to see for myself.
Does anyone remember the Rio buffets in all it's glory? The Rio had 2 buffets: one was called the Carnival World Buffet and it boasted foods from around the world. The other buffet on the property was a smaller buffet called the Rio Seafood buffet.
I went to the Seafood Buffet and really enjoyed it. This was back in 2009 when the Rio was a popular off-strip resort and the 2 buffets were also very popular.
The fresh oysters on the half shell were amazing and besides the crab legs, I pigged out on the shrimp and for the first time ever I was able to have dungeness crab clusters in an all you can eat setting. I still remember that great dining experience as if it was yesterday.
Sadly, just like yesterday, it is gone for good. :(
Youtube has Bellagio buffet walk throughts. It's wort $19.99 at most cause it's the Bellagio. But if you were to solely base it on food and not location, then it's worth $9.99. That's how average it is.
Rio shut down since covid and never re-opened. Same with all the Station Casino buffets like Green Valley and Red Rock. Mrs. CMO used to like Rio buffet when they had beef ribs, but they did away with that a year before Covid, so we never went back. Rio buffet also would give locals discount.
Now the Rio just made their new Food Hall, which is below average. As in it's not worth the special trip there to eat at it. They also renovated their hotel and rooms, but it's empty.
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My friend hasn't been to Vegas in a while. He asked if players cards are still a thing and asked if he should bring his Stardust one.
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My friend hasn't been to Vegas in a while. He asked if players cards are still a thing and asked if he should bring his Stardust one.
I used to frequent Binion's Horseshoe. I showed them my player's card I first got made out of business card type paper. Since then, I've had 3 more made as the casino kept changing hands. My comp points never transferred from the previous system, so I guess that was a way for the casino to save money.
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So update on the fact that casinos are trying to squeeze every penny out of you;
Recap
Precovid, downtown was known for their $5 tables for all games. After covid, they 1 by 1 went to $15 tables with Golden Nugget being the last to increase.
The strip, $10 tables were the norm, but you could find a $5 table hear and there. Excluding the fancy places like Wynn/Bellagio. But even those fancy places had $15 tables often. Now the strip is $15 is the norm and $25 for the higher end casinos.
The strip has introduced triple zero roulette slowly over the past 2 years or so. And since Covid, most 3:2 Blackjack tables for non-high limit are all 6:5 now.
Palms was the first to guarantee at least 1 $5 craps and BJ table. Prior to this, their tables were $15.
All high limit rooms have single zero roulette aka European roulette. But since it's in high limit, the min is often $50 and even $100 at times. Compare to the double or triple zero roulette on the regular casino floor can be $15 min. Single zero on the regular casino floors have disappeared post covid.
Update:
Palazzo has single zero roulette that isn't high limit. This is huge as Palazzo is a fancy place. I wonder if others will follow to go back to single zero.
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There's an IG guy named Pauly C who does casino news and reviews. He was banned from Resorts World, but the new CEO brought him back to talk on what they need to do to get people to come. This is like the 3rd CEO in recent and what the prior ones were doing wasn't working. So at least this guy is thinking outside the box. I'm sure he's also talking to other social media influencers to get ideas.
I hope this means RW will go old school and bring back old Vegas. More comps, free parking/valet, lower table mins, etc...
For those who don't know, RW opened just before Covid. They marketed to Chinese as the design of the casino shows this, even though it's not super obvious like Lucky Dragon Casino taht closed. The problem with 1 demographic is you alienate others like how Lucky Dragon did. RW isn't too obvious, but if you know about this, then you see it. Other hotels do this too. Most slot machines that have a culture theme are Chinese themed.
Since the Chinese aren't coming still, they need to branch out to new markets. Half their food hall is closed to due to being super slow. IMO, they had the best food hall in Vegas. I was there last year and the gaming floor was empty. I'm not 100% sure on this, but since they are combined with multiple hotel brands, I think that the hotels are separate from the casino. So giving comps isn't just free, the casino has to pay the hotels for the room. Because each has it's own revenue stream. This is 1 huge flaw if it's true.
RW still allows influencers to fill table games, comapred to the other higher end places that banned it.
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So much Chinese themed slot machines in almost every casino, whether they cater to the Asian demographic or not.
Never been to RW, and don't feel I'm missing anything.
If the Downtown properties are smart, they shouldn't mirror what the Strip is doing.
And Plaza and El Cortez should open a mid-tier Buffet.
And Golden Nugget should re-open their Buffet, make it a premium Buffet.
My opinion, of course.
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You know, Vegas used to be only 1 of 2 locations in the country with legal casinos. Since at least the 1970s, many states and Indian reservations have legalized gambling in one form or another: horse racing, card rooms, Indian Casinos, Riverboat Casinos, sports betting, online gambling, lotteries, bingo, etc., etc. Add to that the number of foreign-based online gaming sites that draw American gamblers, and it's obvious Vegas and Atlantic City are not the monopoly they once were.
When looking at the Vegas experience, it's obvious the business model has had to change in order to remain as profitable as it has been in the past. I'm sure buffets of the past will continue to die off as inflation continues to drive food prices higher and higher, causing wasted food to become an even bigger drain on their expense sheet. Left-over buffet food is usually thrown in the garbage.
Around 42 million tourists flock to Vegas each year, many patronizing the city's
dozens of buffets. The Bacchanal Buffet at Caesars Palace alone offers 500
different food items to 3,500 daily guests, and a good amount of this goes uneaten.
It's estimated that The Strip's MGM properties generate about 160,000 pounds of
food waste on their own per day, and overall, Vegas ends up with about five billion
pounds of waste annually; a lot of that is food.
So what to do with buffet leftovers? Feed it to pigs, of course. A pig farm may be
far from your mental image of Sin City, but R.C. Farms, now Las Vegas Livestock,
is a major local operation. Hotels and casinos like those MGM properties give their
leftovers to the farm to feed the animals sustainably and find an eco-friendly food-
waste solution.
The best place for leftover food to go is naturally to hungry people — the
Environmental Protection Agency places this at the top of their food recovery
hierarchy right under reducing the amount of food ordered in the first place. But
leftovers aren't always in good enough condition to donate, so the next best option
is to feed it to animals. Las Vegas Livestock has around 4,000 pigs that eat up to
20 tons of food scraps per day, helping with a good chunk of buffet leftovers.
The city, however, is always working on better ways to make use of the rest. In
studies, Nevada has proven to be one of the most wasteful states in the country,
with food waste a major contributor. To combat this, many resorts are looking to stay
ahead of the problem by more carefully tracking consumption so they order food
more efficiently. Of the leftovers they still end up with, once the pigs of the city have
been fed, many buffets engage in composting practices. MGM dries its oyster shells
out and sends them to Maryland to aid in restoring oyster beds, and uses a high-tech
system to freeze buffet leftovers that haven't been touched so they are in sufficient
shape to donate to food banks.
It's fun to think about pigs enjoying fancy buffet food, but you can also help when at
Vegas buffets by only taking what you think you can eat.
https://www.tastingtable.com/1827701/vegas-buffet-leftovers-revealed/
That's just one Vegas amenity -- the all-you-can-eat buffet -- being reworked to keep waste down, profits up and keeping visitors coming back. It's a difficult thing to balance when in the past food wasn't nearly as expensive, nobody really worried about the waste, and a full & happy customer was a gambling customer after paying next to nothing for a world-class meal.
We now see YT channels with people ordering 20, 30, or more all-you-can-eat lobsters just to get clicks. Complete waste of food for no good reason, which causes everyone's prices to go up.
No wonder the casinos are trying to increase prices on parking, buffets and room fees.
It's difficult to advertise Vegas as an over-indulgent get-away if nobody can afford to go.
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I don't like it when people waste food also. I make an effort when at buffets to sample first and if I like it then I will go back for more. I also don't subscribe to the "eat my money's worth" at buffets. I like buffets for the variety, especially when they touch on foods I don't normally eat. They might not be as great as if you were to go to a restaurant but at least I get some idea of that type of food.
24 hr. Cafes, Graveyard specials, and buffets are what I enjoy about Vegas.
Sadly I think those 3 will disappear for all the reasons you brought up, Flapp.
I remember watching a documentary type program highlighting how the Vegas pig farmers gather the food from the resorts then process them at their farm, getting it ready to feed the pigs. I remember them showing stuff like forks, plastics, and other foreign materials that needed to be carefully screened out from the food.
As far as waste I remember one family I saw at the buffet with huge plates of food leftover. I would say more than 50% of the food they took were not touched and these were items like crab legs and prime rib. My heart sank when I saw this. As much as I enjoy watching people enjoy their food I don't like to see waste.
And the YT Influencers, agree that some of them are wasting food. One of those YT vloggers took 8 whole lobsters to do his video. I commented on his channel if he ate all 8 of those lobsters besides all the other foods he took. I told him not to be wasteful and scolded him that him and people like him are the reason buffets are going away and prices are going up.
He usually leaves a Heart emojii after people's comments but he never leaves one for me. :rofl:
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[snippy]
As far as waste I remember one family I saw at the buffet with huge plates of food leftover. I would say more than 50% of the food they took were not touched and these were items like crab legs and prime rib. My heart sank when I saw this. As much as I enjoy watching people enjoy their food I don't like to see waste.
[snippy]
It's not always each person getting more than they themselves can eat. Sometimes it's everyone loading up the table for all to share even though not everyone wants to gorge themselves on crab legs or lobster.
But the people trying to record content by annoying the businesses and other customers need to be trespassed and kicked out.
https://youtu.be/2tq-AW9Ln4U
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So much Chinese themed slot machines in almost every casino, whether they cater to the Asian demographic or not.
Never been to RW, and don't feel I'm missing anything.
If the Downtown properties are smart, they shouldn't mirror what the Strip is doing.
And Plaza and El Cortez should open a mid-tier Buffet.
And Golden Nugget should re-open their Buffet, make it a premium Buffet.
My opinion, of course.
THe most recent downtown buffet and only one open is Main Street's one. But it looks like shit compared to what it was precovid. At least Plaza has 10X odds and single zero roulette. They also have a good bingo trounament going often. Not daily, but often enough. Seems like only Plaza is doing what they can to bring in gamblers.
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It's not always each person getting more than they themselves can eat. Sometimes it's everyone loading up the table for all to share even though not everyone wants to gorge themselves on crab legs or lobster.
But the people trying to record content by annoying the businesses and other customers need to be trespassed and kicked out.
https://youtu.be/2tq-AW9Ln4U
We ate at Palms shortly after this vid was made. THey're very strict now. 2 per person on a plate with no lobster on it. You're more than welcome to go back to your table and drop it off and get a new empty plate. But I'll say that most will eat first as why get up again, they won't run out of lobster. While I was making my rounds, I saw a few people complaining about this. And all where "Karen" looking women. The manager in the vid was also there too and dressed in similar clothing, which is unusual for a buffet manager at an average buffet.
Palms had also just increased the lobster buffet to $80 or so. I won my Royal Flush that paid $5K and also paid for my 2 friends who live there and were joining us. They had to wait for me to finish my tax form, so I figure, dinners on me. I thought it was still $45. Then since Mrs. CMO has Diamond Status (top tier) cause they messed up on her card and gave her the Diamond card by mistake, we didn't have to wait in line for the buffet either. This is the real only perk of Palms top tier status. I mean, you get free valet, but the lot is right next to the casino and very close, so it's not really a noticable benefit. Other top tier rewards give you money for airfare and pick up/drop off at airport. Palms doesn't do this. So it's no wonder why their high rollers aren't as abundant as other casinos. Add in you're far off strip too.
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It's not always each person getting more than they themselves can eat. Sometimes it's everyone loading up the table for all to share even though not everyone wants to gorge themselves on crab legs or lobster.
My BIL would always do this in the past. Then get mad at us for not helping him eat all of it. We told him countless times to stop doing that because we like to take our own food. Not to mention none of us ever told him to do that. He meant well but after telling him a few times you would think he would get it.
Now he tells us he doesn't care to do buffets anymore. I tell him "ok, bye. see you later." :wave: :rofl:
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My BIL would always do this in the past. Then get mad at us for not helping him eat all of it. We told him countless times to stop doing that because we like to take our own food. Not to mention none of us ever told him to do that. He meant well but after telling him a few times you would think he would get it.
Now he tells us he doesn't care to do buffets anymore. I tell him "ok, bye. see you later." :wave: :rofl:
I get why people try to "get their monies" worth at a buffet. But I tried this once and didn't enjoy the buffet. Not only was I thinking about money and ruining enjoying the food, but I overate and felt like shit after. So to feel stuffed on vacay when you still got a lot of things to do sucks. So for years now, I eat what I want, even I "lose money". I've been enjoying the buffets much more and don't feel like shit after.
For the Palms lobster buffet above, I only had 1 lobster tail as I'm not a huge fan of lobster, but wanted to try theirs. I also took 1 snow crab claw at Baccahnal and 1 bite. I didn't like it. I wanted to try it without having to order it from a regular menu and spend lots.
We're going to Vegas soon and checking out Border Grill in Mandalay Bay. It's a made to order all you can eat. I want to try Chile Quiles (sp?) for the 1st time as I would never spend my own money to order it. This AYCE has been around precovid, so I'm glad to see they're still doing it.
Bubble craps machines are appearing more and more at casinos. Even the airport has it (not Terminal 3 yet, the Hawaiian Air terminal area). And crapless craps also.
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I get why people try to "get their monies" worth at a buffet. But I tried this once and didn't enjoy the buffet. Not only was I thinking about money and ruining enjoying the food, but I overate and felt like shit after. So to feel stuffed on vacay when you still got a lot of things to do sucks. So for years now, I eat what I want, even I "lose money". I've been enjoying the buffets much more and don't feel like shit after.
For the Palms lobster buffet above, I only had 1 lobster tail as I'm not a huge fan of lobster, but wanted to try theirs. I also took 1 snow crab claw at Baccahnal and 1 bite. I didn't like it. I wanted to try it without having to order it from a regular menu and spend lots.
We're going to Vegas soon and checking out Border Grill in Mandalay Bay. It's a made to order all you can eat. I want to try Chile Quiles (sp?) for the 1st time as I would never spend my own money to order it. This AYCE has been around precovid, so I'm glad to see they're still doing it.
Bubble craps machines are appearing more and more at casinos. Even the airport has it (not Terminal 3 yet, the Hawaiian Air terminal area). And crapless craps also.
Agree that stuffing yourself just so you can "get your money's worth" only ends up in most people feeling miserable after. For me, getting my money's worth is the ability to try different types of foods sort of like a sampling menu that some restaurants offer. Fill up by trying small samples of a variety of foods.
I wish some buffets would offer some cuisine from India. I never tried Indian food but would like to try it. If I try a sample and don't like it at least I didn't waste food.
I tried bubble craps before but it was sorta meh. But I think I'd like to give it another try. There are some interesting strategies on Yoo Boob that would piss off the dealers and players at a regular craps table but would be perfectly fine with bubble craps.
An interesting thing about bubble craps is the dice have "monopoly" type shapes. Their edges are rounded out, not like the sharp edges of regular craps dice. I often wondered why this is so and the paranoid conspiracy theorist in me suspects the AI of the machine can sense what the dice will land on as the pad vibrates. While the sharp edges of regular casino dice guarantees a random roll, maybe the rounded edges of the bubble craps dice make the outcome more predictable.
Of course that's just my opinion. Many times after I hit a big win I seven out immediately after. :rofl:
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Agree that stuffing yourself just so you can "get your money's worth" only ends up in most people feeling miserable after. For me, getting my money's worth is the ability to try different types of foods sort of like a sampling menu that some restaurants offer. Fill up by trying small samples of a variety of foods.
My ex used to work at an AYCE seafood restaurant in MD. Basically, you order the most expensive thing you want to eat, then re-order that item or anything less than that price. Steamed Alaskan King Crab Legs were the most expensive, so ordering that bought you the entire menu. Food was brought to the table, so no buffet line. There was one person she told me about they called "Anna," short for anorexia even though she was bulimic. She'd eat a bunch, go to the restroom and then keep eating. Sometimes she was there for hours. The manager started having employees follow her to the restroom and discovered she was "purging" what she'd just eaten to make room for more. After they witnessed this enough, the manager told her not to come back. It's not "All you can throw up!!"
I wish some buffets would offer some cuisine from India. I never tried Indian food but would like to try it. If I try a sample and don't like it at least I didn't waste food.
I tried bubble craps before but it was sorta meh. But I think I'd like to give it another try. There are some interesting strategies on Yoo Boob that would piss off the dealers and players at a regular craps table but would be perfectly fine with bubble craps.
An interesting thing about bubble craps is the dice have "monopoly" type shapes. Their edges are rounded out, not like the sharp edges of regular craps dice. I often wondered why this is so and the paranoid conspiracy theorist in me suspects the AI of the machine can sense what the dice will land on as the pad vibrates. While the sharp edges of regular casino dice guarantees a random roll, maybe the rounded edges of the bubble craps dice make the outcome more predictable.
Of course that's just my opinion. Many times after I hit a big win I seven out immediately after. :rofl:
The standard for dice in most games is to have rounded edges. They are more comfortable to handle and for most have a more pleasing appearance.
The purpose of the squared edges is so they can control the quality of each die. Sharp edge dice provide more precise, unbiased rolls. They wear down slower and can be more easily measured to ensure randomness.
I think the reason they use rounded edges in Bubble Craps is to avoid "leaners." A sharp point at the right angle can cause a die to lean against the wall, but a rounded edge is more likely to slide off the wall as long as the degree of curvature on the corner is sufficient.
As long as the face of each die is the same size, a rounded die should be just as random as a squared edged one. However, some dice may have larger faces for higher numbers and smaller faces for lower numbers which can cause the larger numbers to face downward more often due to the face being slightly heavier.
One assumes the randomness has been tested by the gaming commission. Either way, I'm sure someone has already bought and tested these machines to see if there's an advantage from betting on the numbers opposite the higher 4, 5 & 6 faces.(i.e. 1, 2 & 3). I'd think the casino would be upset if fewer numbers 4-6 appear since that's going to limit the times a 7 can be rolled. Die faces are usually made with opposing faces having 1 & 6, 2 & 5, and 3 & 4. if the higher number faces weigh more, then you'd expect to see more 1, 2 and 3 rolled as the 4, 5, and 6 are heavier and would tend to land with those numbers facing down.
i can't imagine the casinos letting a biased set of dice favor the players. in craps, once a point is established, the odds favor the house (assuming you are betting "with" the dice) as the number 7 has the highest odds of rolling. Dice being biaed to roll less than a 4 would favor the player.
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Agree that stuffing yourself just so you can "get your money's worth" only ends up in most people feeling miserable after. For me, getting my money's worth is the ability to try different types of foods sort of like a sampling menu that some restaurants offer. Fill up by trying small samples of a variety of foods.
I wish some buffets would offer some cuisine from India. I never tried Indian food but would like to try it. If I try a sample and don't like it at least I didn't waste food.
I tried bubble craps before but it was sorta meh. But I think I'd like to give it another try. There are some interesting strategies on Yoo Boob that would piss off the dealers and players at a regular craps table but would be perfectly fine with bubble craps.
An interesting thing about bubble craps is the dice have "monopoly" type shapes. Their edges are rounded out, not like the sharp edges of regular craps dice. I often wondered why this is so and the paranoid conspiracy theorist in me suspects the AI of the machine can sense what the dice will land on as the pad vibrates. While the sharp edges of regular casino dice guarantees a random roll, maybe the rounded edges of the bubble craps dice make the outcome more predictable.
Of course that's just my opinion. Many times after I hit a big win I seven out immediately after. :rofl:
I think there's an Indian buffet in Mandalay Bay. It's a restaurant that offers a buffet. I'm not 100% sure if they're still doing it or if it was at MB.
I'm assuming The edges of the dice are rounded so the dice can rotate more. Since the bumping isn't that strong, a straight edge would have less rotation upon landing. Compare this to a human strength of throwing a dice.
The downside of bubble craps is a 1099 for any profit over $1200.
The upside is it's a quicker game and you can wih in 30 seconds and then leave. You can play at your own pace and it pays you to the penny, so you don't have to put $6 on the 6/8; you can put $5 and it won't round down. I also see more DP players playing this.
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DP players?
I think there's an Indian buffet in Mandalay Bay. It's a restaurant that offers a buffet. I'm not 100% sure if they're still doing it or if it was at MB.
I'm assuming The edges of the dice are rounded so the dice can rotate more. Since the bumping isn't that strong, a straight edge would have less rotation upon landing. Compare this to a human strength of throwing a dice.
The downside of bubble craps is a 1099 for any profit over $1200.
The upside is it's a quicker game and you can wih in 30 seconds and then leave. You can play at your own pace and it pays you to the penny, so you don't have to put $6 on the 6/8; you can put $5 and it won't round down. I also see more DP players playing this.
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DP players?
Don't Pass
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i was thinking of another type of DP...
Don't Pass
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i was thinking of another type of DP...
I know you are cause you like to make eye contact with other dudes. Maximum FOCUS.
Why else would someone want to be not a real doctor.
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March Vegas numbers for incoming flights are down 300K from March 2024. All airlines have less people compared to 2024, but 1 airline took the biggest hit. Spirit Airlines is down 200K from last March. So if we factored that in, the overall incoming flights aren't down a whole lot. It probably isn't the Canada boycott.
Spirit AIr has been know to be cheap and typically for cheap people. Vegas is no longer cheap like how it was precovid. Yes, there are still free things to do, but even then, the food is still more expensive, unless you eat a $3.49 hamburger at McDonalds for every meal and for your entire trip. $9.99 buffets are gone and $4.99 steaks too.
So I don't think it's the international (Canada) travelers who aren't coming, it's the poorer US domestics who aren't coming.
This benefits the middle income as they can get more comps than before. I know we're getting more comps.
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Our Canadian neighbors really love to go to Vegas. This even if their Canadian dollar costs more to convert to U.S.
I used to frequent this Vegas site called Vegas Message Board. It's a site where you can talk about anything Vegas, from gambling to dining, to shows, etc.
Lots of Canadian members there. They love to talk to other people who love to go to Vegas.
I don't visit the site anymore, but wonder if current events are affecting them.
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Our Canadian neighbors really love to go to Vegas. This even if their Canadian dollar costs more to convert to U.S.
I used to frequent this Vegas site called Vegas Message Board. It's a site where you can talk about anything Vegas, from gambling to dining, to shows, etc.
Lots of Canadian members there. They love to talk to other people who love to go to Vegas.
I don't visit the site anymore, but wonder if current events are affecting them.
FB groups are the new thing and there's enough saying that they won't be coming due to the tariffs Trump is doing to them. They fail to understand that they were the ones who had higher tariffs on us and that their government is issuing a travel advisory, which are reserved for stuff like storms, viruses, terrorism, etc...not beefs between 2 leaders. They're being used as pawns and don't see it.
The overall feeling toward the Canadians who feel this way from Americans in the group are "bye, don't let the door hit you".
There are various FB groups for Vegas that are around. Some,but not limited to:
Love Las Vegas
Vegas 702
Sin City Locals
MGM Rewards Las Vegas
Venetian Palazzo Fan Group
Explore Vegas
Everything Fremont
Las Vegas Things to Do
Las Vegas 101
Vegas Solo
Vegas over 40
etc....
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I’m sitting in LAX on my way home from Vegas. Stayed at the park mgm. Years ago I enjoyed going to Vegas play the 1 cent and 5 cent slots and had a ball, cheap grindz. Those days are gone the place is filthy, people rude. You need an electrical engineering degree or be fucked up on booze to play the machines now and know what the fuck is going on. Unless you want to sell your first born for a good dinner the food is lousy. $5 for a bottle of water in the ABC store.
Nope nope nope…..never again. Vegas can rot…… :grrr:
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I’m sitting in LAX on my way home from Vegas. Stayed at the park mgm. Years ago I enjoyed going to Vegas play the 1 cent and 5 cent slots and had a ball, cheap grindz. Those days are gone the place is filthy, people rude. You need an electrical engineering degree or be fucked up on booze to play the machines now and know what the fuck is going on. Unless you want to sell your first born for a good dinner the food is lousy. $5 for a bottle of water in the ABC store.
Nope nope nope…..never again. Vegas can rot…… :grrr:
I have never been to Las Vegas, probaby never will.
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I’m sitting in LAX on my way home from Vegas. Stayed at the park mgm. Years ago I enjoyed going to Vegas play the 1 cent and 5 cent slots and had a ball, cheap grindz. Those days are gone the place is filthy, people rude. You need an electrical engineering degree or be fucked up on booze to play the machines now and know what the fuck is going on. Unless you want to sell your first born for a good dinner the food is lousy. $5 for a bottle of water in the ABC store.
Nope nope nope…..never again. Vegas can rot…… :grrr:
Yep. Vegas has changed and for many people it's not for the better. And rude people. I forgot to emphasize this when I griped about the changes in Vegas. There are rude people everywhere in our lives but it seems Vegas has a magnet that draws the rude people in droves. It definitely is on the uptick. In my opinion it's the under 30 crowd that is really getting out of hand.
I dunno. Maybe it was that advertising slogan "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.....".
It kinda gave people license to get crazy and obnoxious.
I don't have the urge to visit anymore. Vegas has crossed the line by its incessant rip-off nickel and diming of every little f*cking thing you do there.
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Yep. Vegas has changed and for many people it's not for the better. And rude people. I forgot to emphasize this when I griped about the changes in Vegas. There are rude people everywhere in our lives but it seems Vegas has a magnet that draws the rude people in droves. It definitely is on the uptick. In my opinion it's the under 30 crowd that is really getting out of hand.
I dunno. Maybe it was that advertising slogan "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.....".
It kinda gave people license to get crazy and obnoxious.
I don't have the urge to visit anymore. Vegas has crossed the line by its incessant rip-off nickel and diming of every little f*cking thing you do there.
I haven't been for over 10 years now. Each time I get the itch, I see all the complaints people have now and decide to save my money for somewhere or something else. i enjoyed the Fremont Street Experience when they first enclosed the road. Before, it seemed sketchy walking between downtown casinos. After, it was like a single property with multiple buildings. Today the street is so crowded with people and attractions, some nights you can barely get to where you are going. Then on special nights (holidays), they block off the area so you can't even walk there without paying admission.
Binion's Horseshoe was my favorite black jack spot. A dozen or more single deck games and just a few 4-6 deck shoes. There were also plenty of $5 and $10 min tables. The last time I went, they had added machines, lighting and different table games, and all the BJ games used a multideck shoe except for one or two double deck games. Comps are very difficult to get, and you have to ask. Gone are the days when the pit boss would just walk over and offer a comped meal for your play.
I've been thinking about cruise ships lately. There's a new MSC ship planned for basing out of Galveston, Texas. And if you gamble at any land casinos and get offers from them, there's a company called "UR Comped" that can convert those into free cruises.
https://www.msccruisesusa.com/cruise/destinations/us-canada/united-states/galveston-texas
https://urcomped.com/
I need to read up on it, but one of the BJ YT channels i follow spends a LOT of time on those cruises.
https://www.youtube.com/@MrBrandonOBrien
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I haven't been for over 10 years now. Each time I get the itch, I see all the complaints people have now and decide to save my money for somewhere or something else. i enjoyed the Fremont Street Experience when they first enclosed the road. Before, it seemed sketchy walking between downtown casinos. After, it was like a single property with multiple buildings. Today the street is so crowded with people and attractions, some nights you can barely get to where you are going. Then on special nights (holidays), they block off the area so you can't even walk there without paying admission.
Binion's Horseshoe was my favorite black jack spot. A dozen or more single deck games and just a few 4-6 deck shoes. There were also plenty of $5 and $10 min tables. The last time I went, they had added machines, lighting and different table games, and all the BJ games used a multideck shoe except for one or two double deck games. Comps are very difficult to get, and you have to ask. Gone are the days when the pit boss would just walk over and offer a comped meal for your play.
I've been thinking about cruise ships lately. There's a new MSC ship planned for basing out of Galveston, Texas. And if you gamble at any land casinos and get offers from them, there's a company called "UR Comped" that can convert those into free cruises.
https://www.msccruisesusa.com/cruise/destinations/us-canada/united-states/galveston-texas
https://urcomped.com/
I need to read up on it, but one of the BJ YT channels i follow spends a LOT of time on those cruises.
https://www.youtube.com/@MrBrandonOBrien
Cruises sounds like a viable alternative. :thumbsup:
It's pretty hard at the current moment with my wife and I since we started babysitting the grandson and great-grandson. But eventually they will go off to pre-school.
Maybe then we can start thinking of alternative places to go and do.
I've seen so many over the top buffets in Manila on YT that I cannot believe I'm thinking of going all the way to the Phillipines just to eat at their buffets...... :rofl:
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I’m sitting in LAX on my way home from Vegas. Stayed at the park mgm. Years ago I enjoyed going to Vegas play the 1 cent and 5 cent slots and had a ball, cheap grindz. Those days are gone the place is filthy, people rude. You need an electrical engineering degree or be fucked up on booze to play the machines now and know what the fuck is going on. Unless you want to sell your first born for a good dinner the food is lousy. $5 for a bottle of water in the ABC store.
Nope nope nope…..never again. Vegas can rot…… :grrr:
Park is the only smoke free hotel on the strip. But they're much smaller compared to other casinos. I've noticed since Covid, the smoke smell isn't as heavy as before. Like 98% less. And I dont' see many smoking too. The newere machiens take some getting used to, but you can get the hang of it. Ways vs lines is the biggest thing. But a slot machine player is like someone who uses cruise control in a car. A table player is someone who drives their car with no cruise control. As for slots, you just press the button and wait.
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Yep. Vegas has changed and for many people it's not for the better. And rude people. I forgot to emphasize this when I griped about the changes in Vegas. There are rude people everywhere in our lives but it seems Vegas has a magnet that draws the rude people in droves. It definitely is on the uptick. In my opinion it's the under 30 crowd that is really getting out of hand.
I dunno. Maybe it was that advertising slogan "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.....".
It kinda gave people license to get crazy and obnoxious.
I don't have the urge to visit anymore. Vegas has crossed the line by its incessant rip-off nickel and diming of every little f*cking thing you do there.
I haven't noticed that people are more rude. But my impression is based on 15 years or so. IDK what Vegas was like in the 90's and 80s.
I do notice the demographics. Like during major holidays like Thanksgiving and Xmas, it's more Asians and Indians as they don't celebrate those holidays as much as non FOB type people. Then if you go to a casino and there's a rapper concert, then the demographic is more blacks. If you during the pool party hours then it's 20-30's crowd of all races.Mostly liquired up and staggering walking people. On a plus side, you see girls walking around in their bikinis on the casino floor. But some places like the Wynn ban this, so I've seen a tall blonde girl in heels and she had to go to the Wynn store to buy a tshirt to cover up.
During the reopening days of covid, the demo was ghetto people as the casinos gave comps to everyone cause they needed the revenue. Wynn quickly stopped this as there were lots of fighting by big groups of blacks on the casino floor. The next by hispanics.
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Cruises sounds like a viable alternative. :thumbsup:
It's pretty hard at the current moment with my wife and I since we started babysitting the grandson and great-grandson. But eventually they will go off to pre-school.
Maybe then we can start thinking of alternative places to go and do.
I've seen so many over the top buffets in Manila on YT that I cannot believe I'm thinking of going all the way to the Phillipines just to eat at their buffets...... :rofl:
I've noticed that there are diff types of cruises. So be very aware of that. Like there are some that have a black heavy demographic and this may not appeal to you. Same ones have fights often, refer to my vegas comment above about the Wynn.
Then there's swingers cruises, gay cruises, etc...
But generally, if you go cheap, you get cheap people and shit food. Not worth it IMO.
Vegas youtuber Danny the Medic just came back from a free cruise using his Vegas comps and i wouldn't go on it.
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I've noticed that there are diff types of cruises. So be very aware of that. Like there are some that have a black heavy demographic and this may not appeal to you. Same ones have fights often, refer to my vegas comment above about the Wynn.
Then there's swingers cruises, gay cruises, etc...
But generally, if you go cheap, you get cheap people and shit food. Not worth it IMO.
Vegas youtuber Danny the Medic just came back from a free cruise using his Vegas comps and i wouldn't go on it.
It always depends on the cruise line company and the level of service you are paying for. MSC owns an island which makes it outside the jurisdiction of surrounding governments. That's one cruise that allows you to gamble while in port. Most have to be in international waters to open the casino, and they have to close it down when approaching waters owned by some nation.
O'Brian's channel has some tours of the ships he's been on and some of the amenities. He offers video and opinions of the food, drinks, hospitality and features.
i've never been on a cruise, but once I start, I'm sure i'll sample a few to compare the experiences. Anything else relies on others' experiences, comparisons and opinions.
It's all a matter of taste and the relative impressions you personally formed about the cruises you've sampled yourself. I mean, some people would rather not stay in a downtown hotel/casino because they're partial to the high end rooms at places like Bellagio and Mandalay Bay. Others may prefer the value of a downtown hotel since they spend their waking hours gambling, eating, seeing shows, etc.
It's okay. If you're watching your budget, you're probably going to appreciate less expensive options which someone with a huge wallet might not ever consider.
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It always depends on the cruise line company and the level of service you are paying for. MSC owns an island which makes it outside the jurisdiction of surrounding governments. That's one cruise that allows you to gamble while in port. Most have to be in international waters to open the casino, and they have to close it down when approaching waters owned by some nation.
O'Brian's channel has some tours of the ships he's been on and some of the amenities. He offers video and opinions of the food, drinks, hospitality and features.
i've never been on a cruise, but once I start, I'm sure i'll sample a few to compare the experiences. Anything else relies on others' experiences, comparisons and opinions.
It's all a matter of taste and the relative impressions you personally formed about the cruises you've sampled yourself. I mean, some people would rather not stay in a downtown hotel/casino because they're partial to the high end rooms at places like Bellagio and Mandalay Bay. Others may prefer the value of a downtown hotel since they spend their waking hours gambling, eating, seeing shows, etc.
It's okay. If you're watching your budget, you're probably going to appreciate less expensive options which someone with a huge wallet might not ever consider.
If u thought the slots in Vegas were tight, the cruise ship ones are tighter.
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If u thought the slots in Vegas were tight, the cruise ship ones are tighter.
Then it's a good thing I don't really enjoy slots.
Slots are really boring IMO, but it can be a good break from a losing BJ or craps session.
The slots in Vegas normally advertise a 90-98% return rate. But, that doesn't mean YOU will only lose at most 10% of your bankroll. Someone at some point will hit a jackpot that everyone else paid for. So, how loose or tight slots appear to be doesn't mean much. I've done well on slots, and I've played machines that took my money without giving a single bet back out of 30-50 spins. Slots are about timing. There's no real strategy to it. You choose a machine, you hit the button to start, and you hopefully get more back than you put in. Once in a while i get one that pays out more often than the others in that casino, but usually it's just right machine at the right time.
Some states and reservations, Nv included, set minimum and maximum rates of return on gaming machines. Some states set percentages based on the type of machine/game, and others go by area within the state. Since we are discussing Vegas:
1¢ Slot Machines
The Strip – 88.33%
Downtown – 88.96%
Boulder Strip – 90.53%
N. Las Vegas – 90.79%
5¢ Slot Machines
The Strip – 91.96%
Downtown – 93.32%
Boulder Strip – 96.30%
N. Las Vegas – 95.24%
25¢ Slot Machines
The Strip – 89.34%
Downtown – 93.91%
Boulder Strip – 95.77%
N. Las Vegas – 96.27%
$1 Slot Machines
The Strip – 92.34%
Downtown – 94.12%
Boulder Strip – 95.49%
N. Las Vegas – 95.62%
$1 Megabucks Machines
The Strip – 87.31%
Downtown – 86.40%
Boulder Strip – 87.61%
N. Las Vegas – 86.98%
All Slot Machines
The Strip – 91.84%
Downtown – 92.22%
Boulder Strip – 94.26%
N. Las Vegas – 93.34%
https://www.americancasinoguide.com/info/slot-machine-payback-statistics#California
Anyway, I don't play slots enough to plan ahead so I only hit the casinos and machine types that have the highest payout rates. Those rates are evaluated and calculated during each calendar year, As long as the rates meet the regulatory minimums, you never know if it's just barely meeting the minimum or if it's hitting closer to the upper 90's -- not until the current year's rates are calculated. Just because they hit 95% last year is no guarantee it's not closer to 85% this year. A good marketing ploy would be to take a hit one year setting the returns to 98%+, then sheering the sheep flocking to your place the following year hoping to take advantage of those "loose" slots. By the time anyone figures out the rate is closer to 85%, it'll be too late.
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I'm not a fan of slots, but I did get hooked on Buffalo Gold Slots the past few trips. Of course it was because I got lucky and hit big a few times on them. Gotta admit the bonus rounds are fun.
But the excitement soon went away when the variance turned for the worse and all I did was feed it hundys, one after another. That was no fun.
I like to play video poker, though. There is some skill and knowledge you can put to use to up your chances of winning something worthwhile.
Don't ask me why I love craps. There is no logic to why that is so. I've lost way more times than I care to remember. I think it is the memory of the big wins that keep me going. Like this past trip. All it takes is one good session at the table and all the memories of the losses disappear. :rofl:
I should try at least one cruise to see if I like it. I definitely know I will avoid the Carnival and Disney type cruises. The most appealing cruise I'd like to try is an Alaskan cruise. Relaxing on a balcony room or on deck on the lounge chairs while watching beautiful scenery pass by leisurely is what is interesting to me.
And I definitely want to visit Japan, Okinawa, and Korea for their festivals like the winter one in Sapporo, and Spring and Summer festivals where we harvest rice and eat with the villagers.
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I only play slots a little cause there's no way to win $10,000 on a $3 bet on a table game.
I keep track of my p&l for each game and slots I ususally lose $1K a trip.
Even though slots are supposed to be tighter now than they were 10 years ago, I get more bonus games in the past few years than before. Before I would get zero and I stopped playing slots for a few years.
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I only play slots a little cause there's no way to win $10,000 on a $3 bet on a table game.
I keep track of my p&l for each game and slots I usually lose $1K a trip.
Even though slots are supposed to be tighter now than they were 10 years ago, I get more bonus games in the past few years than before. Before I would get zero and I stopped playing slots for a few years.
The slots with bonuses have increased, especially in the video slots. People become "programmed' to keep playing until they get that bonus, which means putting more and more money in. Unfortunately, the most common outcome is you spent more trying to play the bonus than the bonus gives back.
Wheel of Fortune machines can become addictive trying to get the bonus spin. i've hit the $1K bonus several times with less than $100 played on a dollar machine. I've also gotten the highest bonuses on quarter machines, which is normally $250. I believe I'm ahead, as I try to walk away with at least what I put in or lose no more than I initially put in. Limit the losses, and walk away without giving it all back.
That's the trick. People can be $200 or more up, then play it all back down to zero trying for the bonus. They see the credits as "ammo" for shooting at the bonus target, not as actual money in their hand.
I've played machines for 5-10 spins and walked away after doubling my money so many times, I can't count. Once at Luxor, as a demonstration to a friend's dad, I put $100 in a high limit $5 per spin machine. Less than halfway through my $100, i hit a small pay reel. The next spin I hit a bigger one. I cashed out with over $350. I don't think I played it for more than 2 minutes while my friend was in the cashier line to redeem his ticket.
Slots are luck. You pick the right machine at the right time, and you make money. Pick the wrong one, and you'll feel like everyone playing around you is winning yet you can't even get a 2 credit cherry to hit on a 3 max credit machine!
One megabucks winner went to Vegas on almost every weekend since it was a short-ish drive from CA. I believe the story is, he was in Caesar's Palace and was on his way out to the parking garage. He still had a few $1 tokens in his pocket, so instead of cashing them in, he stopped at a megabucks machine. He only had enough tokens for one 3-credit max play. He wound up a multi-millionaire that night all because he played the right machine at the right time.
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This is where owning multiple properties is the advantage. You may win $500 at 1 place and then lose it at another. Then add in if on vacay and you win say 1K on day 1, you're not going to stop gambling the rest of the week.
So for someone who lives there, they can just go home. Even if they were at the casino for only 5 minutes. That's what I would do if I lived there.
How many times have I lost $100 while waiting for mrs. cmo to take a piss before we leave the casino. So our running joke is that her piss cost me $100.
1 thing that I never believed in is the above chart about the holds/house edge on slots/tables. IMO, basing it on an "infinite" amount of play you only lose like $4 for every $100 is BS. MOre people lost it all, so they should factor it not on infinite, but some other more realistic time of play. But that won't look good for the casinos as the house edge would be like 97% and not 3 %.
With regard to people playing with "house money", I've noticed poker players def think the opposite. Any money won is no longer "house", but it's my money. I just lost "my money".
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My sister in law and her husband just got back from Vegas. Her husband won a handpay on a $2 Double Gold slot machine. He wouldn't tell us the amount of his handpay and for the life of me I can't figure out why. But according to his pic he sent us I figured he won about $1600.
He won it toward the end of their trip. He also mentioned that he "only" lost half of his bankroll this trip and that he can live with that. "Only" half....?! Gee, if he didn't win that handpay he would have been up sh*t creek.
Another thing I noticed about the changes in Vegas is how the slot machines operate nowadays. Like CMO mentioned there are more bonuses now when you play machines.
However, I've experienced earning bonuses after putting in several hundys only to win a paltry 38 bucks or so. But the way the machine shows all the bells and whistles and visuals you'd think you won the mega-bucks, LOL!
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My sister in law and her husband just got back from Vegas. Her husband won a handpay on a $2 Double Gold slot machine. He wouldn't tell us the amount of his handpay and for the life of me I can't figure out why. But according to his pic he sent us I figured he won about $1600.
He won it toward the end of their trip. He also mentioned that he "only" lost half of his bankroll this trip and that he can live with that. "Only" half....?! Gee, if he didn't win that handpay he would have been up sh*t creek.
Another thing I noticed about the changes in Vegas is how the slot machines operate nowadays. Like CMO mentioned there are more bonuses now when you play machines.
However, I've experienced earning bonuses after putting in several hundys only to win a paltry 38 bucks or so. But the way the machine shows all the bells and whistles and visuals you'd think you won the mega-bucks, LOL!
i've kind of stayed away from the video slot machines. Some of the penny machines actually cost $3-$5 per spin if you cover all the combinations which you normally have to play in order to win the bonuses. So, when you hit a low-end win on the penny slots, you often wind up winning less than your bet amount.
Having said that, my daughter's first trip to Vegas showed me you don't need to know what you're doing on video slots. She put $100 in her first machine ever, and she cashed out with over $2,000! She came over to where I was, showed me the ticket and asked, "Is this real money?" :rofl:
That was at the Hard Rock casino where we'd just eaten lunch at the Pink Taco. I played some BJ, cashed out ahead and was starting to look for her. I gave her $500 to play as a birthday gift (Happy 21!). The next day at the Golden Nugget, she played that same machine (has howling wolves on the tiles), and won another $600.
I'd like to say all her gaming went as well, but she wound up spending some of it on "tuition" learning how to play the table games.
The hand-pay thing wasn't as prominent then as it is now. The casinos used to only collect tax info if you cashed out $10K or more. Now from my reading, you have to fill out that info for wins over much lower thresholds the IRS decided:
Report gambling winnings on Form W-2G if:
The winnings (not reduced by the wager) are $1,200 or more from a bingo game or slot machine;
The winnings (reduced by the wager) are $1,500 or more from a keno game;
The winnings (reduced by the wager or buy-in) are more than $5,000 from a poker tournament;
The winnings (except winnings from bingo, slot machines, keno, and poker tournaments) reduced, at the option of the payer, by the wager are:
$600 or more, and
At least 300 times the amount of the wager; or
The winnings are subject to federal income tax withholding (either regular gambling withholding or backup withholding).
https://www.irs.gov/instructions/iw2g#idm140175815431712
I've cashed out at BJ for between $1,600 and $2,000. If I flat bet $25 every hand, that's $7,500 I can cash out without triggering an IRS form. if i played $100 hands, the tax forms would apply after cashing out with at least $30,000. The threshold changes as it's a multiple of your bet.
Looking at the IRS site, the 300 times your bet amount rule should apply to craps, baccarat, roulette, Heads-up Texas Hold'em, and other table games. Bingo, slots, keno and poker tournaments have their own rules.
The withholding requirement can get complicated. In short, "Regular gambling withholding doesn't apply to winnings from bingo, keno, or slot machines, nor does it apply to winnings from other wagering transactions if the winnings are $5,000 or less."
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It's common now for any slot pay over 1200, you fill out the and get the W2G.
For tables, there are none, unless you hit a special bonus. When I got my royal flush for Ultimate TX Holdem, the "blind" paid 500:1. So my $10 bet won me $5K. I had to do tax forms just for that $5K payout, not the other bets that I won on in the same hand. The trips paid me like $400 and the other 2 bets paid even money. But my W2G was only for $5K.
That's why I don't like bubble craps, they can track and will hand pay you.
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Not related to old Vegas, but something interesting I found out.
Their legislative session is every odd year. So they don't meet annually like how HI does. I think this is good as it keeps BS laws off the books. Every year, HI finds stuff to ban or make into law that isn't needed.
Also, their politicians don't make an annual salary. Since the session is 120 days, they basically get 120 days worth of pay. So almost all still have a regular job. This keeps them in check to the people and their needs. They also have little to no staff as it's not in the budget, so any bills, they really have to spend time creating or handed to them by their constituents.
Vegas has a Preemption when it comes to gun laws. County ordinance cannot be stricter than state law. Example: City and County of Honolulu passed sensitive places before the state did. This woudln't be allowed in NV as it's more restrictive than the non-existant state law at the time. The only exception is the public library in NV and it's counties. The purpose of preemption is to not inadvertly make someone a criminal cause they crossed county lines.
This year, NV has 5 anti 2a bills presented and 5 pro 2A. The only ones still alive are the under 21 for rifles and you can self red flag yourself. No AWB or mag bans. And since they fall under the 9th, it's possible that Alan Becks lawsuit will hit the 9th before the NV one if it's challenged for the under 21.
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Not related to old Vegas, but something interesting I found out.
Their legislative session is every odd year. So they don't meet annually like how HI does. I think this is good as it keeps BS laws off the books. Every year, HI finds stuff to ban or make into law that isn't needed.
Also, their politicians don't make an annual salary. Since the session is 120 days, they basically get 120 days worth of pay. So almost all still have a regular job. This keeps them in check to the people and their needs. They also have little to no staff as it's not in the budget, so any bills, they really have to spend time creating or handed to them by their constituents.
Vegas has a Preemption when it comes to gun laws. County ordinance cannot be stricter than state law. Example: City and County of Honolulu passed sensitive places before the state did. This woudln't be allowed in NV as it's more restrictive than the non-existant state law at the time. The only exception is the public library in NV and it's counties. The purpose of preemption is to not inadvertly make someone a criminal cause they crossed county lines.
This year, NV has 5 anti 2a bills presented and 5 pro 2A. The only ones still alive are the under 21 for rifles and you can self red flag yourself. No AWB or mag bans. And since they fall under the 9th, it's possible that Alan Becks lawsuit will hit the 9th before the NV one if it's challenged for the under 21.
Interesting. And more common sense and productive.
Hawaii's way of doing things is just so people can have jobs. Never mind if it (the job) is needed and definitely no regard given to staying under budget.
If over budget just create a new tax.
If the federal government plans to cut funds, instead of the state looking at how to streamline services they immediately look at tax codes and rescinding the income tax reductions. Something they implemented just last year. Talk about Indian Givers.
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Interesting. And more common sense and productive.
Hawaii's way of doing things is just so people can have jobs. Never mind if it (the job) is needed and definitely no regard given to staying under budget.
If over budget just create a new tax.
If the federal government plans to cut funds, instead of the state looking at how to streamline services they immediately look at tax codes and rescinding the income tax reductions. Something they implemented just last year. Talk about Indian Givers.
Hows this, NV gets to elect their AG also. Compared to here where the governor appoints one and then they go thru the senate/house committees. NV's AG wasn't 1 of the 26 who submitted to support the Wolford lawsuit to SCOTUS.
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Hows this, NV gets to elect their AG also. Compared to here where the governor appoints one and then they go thru the senate/house committees. NV's AG wasn't 1 of the 26 who submitted to support the Wolford lawsuit to SCOTUS.
FYI for anyone curious -- list of 26 states asking the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) to intervene and halt Hawaii’s unconstitutional gun ban which prohibits the carry or possession of firearms in designated “sensitive” places, including bars and restaurants serving alcohol, parks and beaches, banks and financial institutions, and other areas.
25 State Attorneys General
1-Alabama
2-Alaska
3-Arkansas
4-Florida
5-Georgia
6-Idaho
7-Indiana
8-Iowa
9-Kansas
10-Kentucky
11-Louisiana
12-Mississippi
13-Missouri
14-Montana
15-Nebraska
16-New Hampshire
17-North Dakota
18-Ohio
19-Oklahoma
20-South Carolina
21-South Dakota
22-Texas
23-Utah
24-West Virginia
25-Wyoming
Plus --
26-The Arizona Legislature
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There are several Vegas vlogs lamenting how Vegas is getting more and more expensive and that your dollar value in all aspects like entertainment, gambling, dining, and transportation has diminished.
And now reports show reduced visitor numbers and profits.
Good. >:D
Cry me a river, all you shareholders....... :rofl:
Vegas has always been known to roll with the punches and change. Got my fingers crossed that hopefully changes will again tilt in favor of the average visitor.
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There are several Vegas vlogs lamenting how Vegas is getting more and more expensive and that your dollar value in all aspects like entertainment, gambling, dining, and transportation has diminished.
And now reports show reduced visitor numbers and profits.
Good. >:D
Cry me a river, all you shareholders....... :rofl:
Vegas has always been known to roll with the punches and change. Got my fingers crossed that hopefully changes will again tilt in favor of the average visitor.
The problem is that it isn't a huge dip like 10%. The whales and others with the disposable income are feeding their gaming numbers. Myself included. We're going this month and I plan to spend lots on food. Going to Bacchanal that is $90/person. Tao prob about $400 tab. Anthonys STeakhous brunch which is $100/person. Din Tai Fung for 4 and prob spend about $250. Genting buffet which is $68.88/person. Luckily, we got comps, so I am saving $4K just on the room. Then add in my gambling budget of $5k, which is what I'm willing to lose.
Casino's don't really give a shit about the other revenues like restaurant and booze. Gaming is their bread and butter, then hotel stay income, so until that drops, things won't change. My sister in law during the F1 weekend made only like $45 in tips at a fancy, high end club as a bartender. Clubs are dead and many tables instead of someone paying $20K to get, they're being given away for free. Which means less tips cause the guy who's spending $20K on a table would usually tip more.
But on a positive note, Station Casino's are bringing back their "retro menu". $1.99 shrimp cocktail, $9.99 steak, etc...I think they're playing the cheap food card to bring in gamblers.
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Genting buffet?
The problem is that it isn't a huge dip like 10%. The whales and others with the disposable income are feeding their gaming numbers. Myself included. We're going this month and I plan to spend lots on food. Going to Bacchanal that is $90/person. Tao prob about $400 tab. Anthonys STeakhous brunch which is $100/person. Din Tai Fung for 4 and prob spend about $250. Genting buffet which is $68.88/person. Luckily, we got comps, so I am saving $4K just on the room. Then add in my gambling budget of $5k, which is what I'm willing to lose.
Casino's don't really give a shit about the other revenues like restaurant and booze. Gaming is their bread and butter, then hotel stay income, so until that drops, things won't change. My sister in law during the F1 weekend made only like $45 in tips at a fancy, high end club as a bartender. Clubs are dead and many tables instead of someone paying $20K to get, they're being given away for free. Which means less tips cause the guy who's spending $20K on a table would usually tip more.
But on a positive note, Station Casino's are bringing back their "retro menu". $1.99 shrimp cocktail, $9.99 steak, etc...I think they're playing the cheap food card to bring in gamblers.
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Genting buffet?
Chinese restaurant inside Resorts World. It has peeking duck carving station and the other typical chinese food. Their soup isn't part of the buffet, but looks awesome. It's a dinner buffet and they have dress code. No sports gear, hats, etc...I have a $25 dining credit and $50 free slot play to use. Mrs. CMO has $15 dining credit and $25 slot play.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dypwJlv3QEk
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I got more exact slot "hold" numbers. Study done by UNLV.
From 2004 to today for slots, the holds increased in the casinos favor by about 2% for both downtown and on the strip. So 2004 both were about 5% holds. Today they're 7%. Which means you will lose 7% of every $100 dollars if you played for infinite amount of time. Compare this to max bet on the pass line at craps, it's like 1.41%. Or if you're at the Plaza where they have 10X odds, it lowers to like 0.97% for max bet on the pass line.
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I got more exact slot "hold" numbers. Study done by UNLV.
From 2004 to today for slots, the holds increased in the casinos favor by about 2% for both downtown and on the strip. So 2004 both were about 5% holds. Today they're 7%. Which means you will lose 7% of every $100 dollars if you played for infinite amount of time. Compare this to max bet on the pass line at craps, it's like 1.41%. Or if you're at the Plaza where they have 10X odds, it lowers to like 0.97% for max bet on the pass line.
This is probably the reason why the casinos are cramming more slot machines into the gambling area and shrinking the table games, especially craps, which is a very labor-intensive game to run.
Also the video macsak shared makes me think that pretty soon the casinos will have crossed the line as to how far they can push these nickel and dime fees and extra expenses.
In my opinion the "whales" do a lot to keep the lights on in Vegas. But with the never ending expectation demands of the shareholders every year, if the majority of the Vegas visitors decide not to visit anymore or reduce their visits, it will impact their bottom line.
After all, the extra fees on show tickets, resort fees for rooms, parking fees, and the restaurant "hidden kitchen" fees or some bullshit like that are being charged to regular average visitors as the "whales" usually get comped these things.
I want it to happen. I want the Vegas industry to feel the pain of their own doing.
Then I can gloat and say "Guud fo yoo, yoo fackahs....." ;D :thumbsup:
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This is probably the reason why the casinos are cramming more slot machines into the gambling area and shrinking the table games, especially craps, which is a very labor-intensive game to run.
Also the video macsak shared makes me think that pretty soon the casinos will have crossed the line as to how far they can push these nickel and dime fees and extra expenses.
In my opinion the "whales" do a lot to keep the lights on in Vegas. But with the never ending expectation demands of the shareholders every year, if the majority of the Vegas visitors decide not to visit anymore or reduce their visits, it will impact their bottom line.
After all, the extra fees on show tickets, resort fees for rooms, parking fees, and the restaurant "hidden kitchen" fees or some bullshit like that are being charged to regular average visitors as the "whales" usually get comped these things.
I want it to happen. I want the Vegas industry to feel the pain of their own doing.
Then I can gloat and say "Guud fo yoo, yoo fackahs....." ;D :thumbsup:
Pre-covid, when you walk the strip, it's almost shoulder to shoulder. Even in the 100+ degree heat. Since covid and until today, it's no longer like that. I suspect that the middle income and lower is a result of this cause they've been pushed out of Vegas. Higher income I would assume usually have a ride to places.
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I wonder if more and more of the middle income demographics are migrating towards Downtown and off-strip properties in search of a better value for their dollars.
I think all of the Vegas areas have increased prices and installed ridiculous fees but maybe not so much as the Strip does.
I do know that Fremont Canopy is so crowded nowadays I don't care to walk down it. I duck into Binions and walk through the casino to get to Fremont Casino/Four Queens. Other than Circa, that's the only reason I'll venture out Downtown nowadays.
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I wonder if more and more of the middle income demographics are migrating towards Downtown and off-strip properties in search of a better value for their dollars.
I think all of the Vegas areas have increased prices and installed ridiculous fees but maybe not so much as the Strip does.
I do know that Fremont Canopy is so crowded nowadays I don't care to walk down it. I duck into Binions and walk through the casino to get to Fremont Casino/Four Queens. Other than Circa, that's the only reason I'll venture out Downtown nowadays.
I would say those migrating downtown are the just below middle income as that's the vibe I get when we go. Not low class, but not middle either. Since $5 tables are gone and there aren't really any food deals like how there was before, the lower income are gone.
There are more white people year round downtown compared to the strip. And more blacks at night. Like during thanksgiving, the strip had a lot of Indians, middle easterns, and Asians. Same for Xmas. Then just non-holidays it was evenly distributed. Unless there was a black musician performing, then the casino would be filled with black people.
Don't see much if any Indians and middle eastern people downtown. Not many HI people like precovid too.
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I wonder if more and more of the middle income demographics are migrating towards Downtown and off-strip properties in search of a better value for their dollars.
I think all of the Vegas areas have increased prices and installed ridiculous fees but maybe not so much as the Strip does.
I do know that Fremont Canopy is so crowded nowadays I don't care to walk down it. I duck into Binions and walk through the casino to get to Fremont Casino/Four Queens. Other than Circa, that's the only reason I'll venture out Downtown nowadays.
I stayed downtown many times before, during and after the canopy was built over Fremont Street. Lady Luck, Fremont, Binion's, and The Cal were my usual spots to stay. I tried to limit the number of places I spread my money across so I could earn comps more quickly -- just like frequent flyer mileage.
At first, just closing off the street for traffic was a big improvement. i didn't feel as exposed walking between casinos. The canopy was an even better "feel." but then they launched the Freemont Street Experience with all the moving lights on the canopy and horrendously loud music. Luckily there was a break between shows and a curfew to let downtown hotel occupants have quiet time for sleep.
Then came the band stands. Not a big deal, but during holiday weekends, the street was blocked so they could collect entry fees and stop anyone underage from going unaccompanied. Had to cut down a block or through Binion's to bypass the street without paying.
Then came the street performers. As more people migrated from the more expensive strip to downtown, the performers followed. The powers that be had to institute a system to keep performers in one place and limit the number of them. You had to get a permit for a specific spot and stay inside that marked-off area when performing. i heard the early permit holders made a killing renting their spots to other performers who got placed on a very long and slow wait list.
Now i stroll there midday to go to Walgreens when I need. If it's getting crowded, I use the opportunity to take a walk and think about where I want to go. I don't like a zipline zooming above my head when there's all that booze around. it's all i need to have some drunk out-of-towner puke as he zips overhead! :wacko:
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Now, it's not uncommon to be able to hear the stage performance until mid night or even later when you're in a room that you can see Fremont St.
They now have "circles" that performers need to apply for a permit to be in. IDK if you have to actually be in the circle, or just in it's general area. And if it's the 1st one, then Metro isn't enforcing it.
What I hate is the performers who demand money before doing anything. They talk for like 20 mins and try to get money out of people then they do their show. I never stood around long enough to see their show, I left after 5 mins. And most tourist standing around and waiting don't know any better. There's enough doing this that it's profitable for the performers.
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If there's a good band playing Fremont St. Experience can be very hard to navigate. I feel so bad when almost everyone is standing and enjoying the band and here I come "excuse me...excuse me...sorry.....excuse me....oops sorry....excuse me....." :rofl:
Have no idea who the band is and it seems I'm the only one in the world that doesn't.
A sea of humanity and I'm the only minnow that wants to swim across it. :grrr: :rofl:
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If there's a good band playing Fremont St. Experience can be very hard to navigate. I feel so bad when almost everyone is standing and enjoying the band and here I come "excuse me...excuse me...sorry.....excuse me....oops sorry....excuse me....." :rofl:
Have no idea who the band is and it seems I'm the only one in the world that doesn't.
A sea of humanity and I'm the only minnow that wants to swim across it. :grrr: :rofl:
Been there, done that. I usually wind up walking through Binion's or bypassing Fremont Street a block over.
Don't know why I'd spend my time in Vegas listening to open-air bands when there are games to be played!! If I want a show, I'll buy tickets online for one of the big shows on the Strip. I always enjoyed those.
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If there's a good band playing Fremont St. Experience can be very hard to navigate. I feel so bad when almost everyone is standing and enjoying the band and here I come "excuse me...excuse me...sorry.....excuse me....oops sorry....excuse me....." :rofl:
Have no idea who the band is and it seems I'm the only one in the world that doesn't.
A sea of humanity and I'm the only minnow that wants to swim across it. :grrr: :rofl:
They're local cover bands. So nothing special.
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EDC is this weekend. It's the biggest rave in the nation. About 500K will attend for the 3 days at the Raceway Park.
Before, EDC wasn't always in Vegas, but various cities. They've settled in Vegas for years now.
Food prices:
10 street tacos for $70
10 empanada's for $60
1 whole pizza for $96 (unsure the size)
6 sushi rolls for $100 (unsure what kind of rolls, but 5 small pieces of spicy tuna on cristy rice at Tao in the Venetian is $25. The size of the rice are slightly larger than 1 die (aka dice).)
Cost of a booth per the events vendor packet 10x10 is $3-4K.
So assuming only 100 people ordered street tacos and their profit margin is 50%, they would break even.
Last year 1 bowl of average ramen that was a small bowl was $36.
Too bad the venue cannot tell vendors to lower prices cause you know, where's the "PLUR". Or open an area for lunch trucks.
Metro loves to work EDC cause compared to other concerts, this one has the least amount of trouble. As in less fights, but more medical stuff due to the drug culture and raves. They also like the people as they're much more friendly due to PLUR compared to other events. It's common for Metro to get "candy" from attendees (wrist bracelets).
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EDC is this weekend. It's the biggest rave in the nation. About 500K will attend for the 3 days at the Raceway Park.
Before, EDC wasn't always in Vegas, but various cities. They've settled in Vegas for years now.
Food prices:
10 street tacos for $70
10 empanada's for $60
1 whole pizza for $96 (unsure the size)
6 sushi rolls for $100 (unsure what kind of rolls, but 5 small pieces of spicy tuna on cristy rice at Tao in the Venetian is $25. The size of the rice are slightly larger than 1 die (aka dice).)
Cost of a booth per the events vendor packet 10x10 is $3-4K.
So assuming only 100 people ordered street tacos and their profit margin is 50%, they would break even.
Last year 1 bowl of average ramen that was a small bowl was $36.
Too bad the venue cannot tell vendors to lower prices cause you know, where's the "PLUR". Or open an area for lunch trucks.
Metro loves to work EDC cause compared to other concerts, this one has the least amount of trouble. As in less fights, but more medical stuff due to the drug culture and raves. They also like the people as they're much more friendly due to PLUR compared to other events. It's common for Metro to get "candy" from attendees (wrist bracelets).
Enjoy the Erectile Dysfunction Convention. I've never been -- for obvious reasons.
"Metro loves to work EDC cause compared to other
concerts, this one has the least amount of trouble.
As in less fights, but more medical stuff ..."
Probably a result of low testosterone.
Looks like ticket prices just to attend are super-high as well. Cheapest general admission i saw was over $400 per person for a 3-day pass. That's for standing only. Much more expensive for better tickets.
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Enjoy the Erectile Dysfunction Convention. I've never been -- for obvious reasons.
"Metro loves to work EDC cause compared to other
concerts, this one has the least amount of trouble.
As in less fights, but more medical stuff ..."
Probably a result of low testosterone.
Looks like ticket prices just to attend are super-high as well. Cheapest general admission i saw was over $400 per person for a 3-day pass. That's for standing only. Much more expensive for better tickets.
Raves are "standing only" as there are no chair seating like at a concert. But you can also spend like $20K and get a table or a cabana like area that does have a place to sit. Think of it like Woodstock, but for rave music with regard to the standing. You need to muscle your way to get to the front of the stage and if you leave, your spot is gone.
$400 for 3 days is a good real considering the event goes all for many hours. Much longer than any concert would. That too is why the food vendors charge a lot, they know you will be there for 6 hours and become hungry. You also won't leave the venue just to grab food and return.
My friend went 1 year and made the mistake of staying until the days show ended (6am or so). It took them 5 hours to exit the parking lot. Some people cut down the fence in the parking lot so they could hit the highway easier.
Back in my day, raves were more underground type culture. Now it's the popular thing to do. Lots of douche type younger club goers. And the EDM (Eletronic Dance Music) now sucks compared to what was being made in the late 90s and early 00's.
At least in Europe the EDM is still good.
The funny thing is that this year the host hotel is Virgin Hotel. Not only is that place off strip, but it's dead for gambling. Their rewards program is being re-done cause it currently sucks.
Last year it was Resorts World, which made more sense cause at least they're more on the strip. Guess Virgin Hotels offered more money.
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I would also start a casual dining/takeout restaurant with cheap prices. Like precovid vegas style $5.99 steak or $0.99 shrimp cocktail. But with good quality food and amazing diner type recipes.
As the place becomes busier, I will expand so people aren't waiting 2 hours to dine in.
Pay all workers a good wage and good benefits.
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2024 report released by the tourism dept.
14% of visitors are 1st timers. IDK what this stat was precovid as anything post covid, it's hard to compare the numbers to what it used to be like.
They did say that precovid, about 46% of people saw some kind of show. Today, that number is 21%. Shows are like cirque solei, music artist, magicians, etc...
Going from memory, so give or take a few %.
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2024 report released by the tourism dept.
14% of visitors are 1st timers. IDK what this stat was precovid as anything post covid, it's hard to compare the numbers to what it used to be like.
They did say that precovid, about 46% of people saw some kind of show. Today, that number is 21%. Shows are like cirque solei, music artist, magicians, etc...
Going from memory, so give or take a few %.
As far as show in Vegas, how many people want to sit in a crowded theater with hundreds of others after being conditioned with social distancing?
Cirque du Soleil was in financial troubles before the pandemic. When that happened, they had to shut down all their shows worldwide. Afterward, they had to rehire and train performers, and not all the previous cast was available to return, so restarting took time and money to pay actors and stage crews to train for reopening.
Ticket prices for Vegas shows are not cheap, and for regular visitors, there are just so many shows each person is interested in seeing. Most of the shows, if you've seen them once, you don't want to drop that amount of cash a second time unless you know the act has changed.
With hotels and casinos demanding more of the tourists' dollars with new and higher fees and taxes, it's a wonder any first timer has the cash to see a show.
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Just came back.
Let it ride is not offered as often as it used to be. Surpisingly, Harrahs had a $5 LIR table. But the next day it was $10, which is still low as most are $15. I told an older dealer this at Resorts World and they were shocked the game was still around. Venetian has it too, but it wasn't open for the 5 days we were there. Well the table is still there anyways.
More bad F1 info from dealers. The normal casino floor dealers don't make much. "Richer" people who attend don't tip well. I never asked about High Limit room and tips. THis was dealers from Resorts World, Venetian, and Mandalay Bay.
Lots of bubble craps available. This seems like the new thing to play. Mrs. CMO went on a 38 roll at the one at Aria. But she was only betting $3 pass line with even odds and $3 6 and 8.Plus she was playing the field for $3. So when the 6 or 8 hit, she only profitted $0.50 as she lost $3 from her field bet. But a 38 roll is a "god roll".
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April numbers are released and Vegas is down 3.5% for gaming from April 2024.
But they also break it down by airline. Spirit Air is down 26% of travelers from April 2024. This supports my suspicion that Vegas has priced out the cheaper people. Spirit Air is known for cheap flights and low class people. AKA fights on board, fights/arguments at the check in, etc...
All other airlines are down by less than 3%.
So all the high food prices today and table mins, fees, automatic FNB charges, etc...mean less people coming.
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I haven't been to vegas for a couple years except for a work trip where I didn't have time to do anything there. Also had to cancel my CES trip due to work.
A lot of the really cheap stuff is gone like the cheap buffets, low bet gambling, free parking, cheap or free shows, etc. only thing left is comp rooms in downtown but you end up gambling a bit more to get them nowadays.
You still get a good value experience over other places if you spend more. Get luxury resorts for very reasonable prices off-peak, very good food and buffets in the $30 to $50 range, and lot of entertainment options.
I don't feel the desire to go as much nowadays since I don't gamble as much and front sight left. But it's nice to live in luxury once in a while without breaking the bank.
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Still remember that elderly Hawaii lady that got shot and killed in the parking lot. All she wanted to do is visit Vegas like every other Hawaii resident loves to do.
Seems like a lot of this crap is happening lately. Definitely not the Vegas I remember.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j_3VTMzuuY
Read the comments. Interesting.
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Still remember that elderly Hawaii lady that got shot and killed in the parking lot. All she wanted to do is visit Vegas like every other Hawaii resident loves to do.
Seems like a lot of this crap is happening lately. Definitely not the Vegas I remember.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j_3VTMzuuY
Read the comments. Interesting.
If you're talking about the one at Fashion Show Mall parking lot a few years ago: She forgot her mask and her husband went back to the car to get it. This left her alone. Some criminals from CA saw this and took advantage. They also killed a valet at Main Street hotel (I think it was Main st).
Fashion Show mall is a gun free zone as they have no guns allowed signage. But none in the parking lot area.
Years ago, I saw a guy open carrying in Apple and security asked him to leave.
Now they have armed security as many vegas places do now. Even the Walgreens has stores on the strip with armed security. Like the one next to Planet Hollywood. The one next to Palazzo has unarmed security wearing an airsoft type vest.
MGM properties and Caesars properties have tactical security. Imagine guys who look like SWAT, but with no rifle. So place carrier, handgun, pistol and rifle mags and wearing green/brown.
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why do they have rifle mags, but no rifle?
If you're talking about the one at Fashion Show Mall parking lot a few years ago: She forgot her mask and her husband went back to the car to get it. This left her alone. Some criminals from CA saw this and took advantage. They also killed a valet at Main Street hotel (I think it was Main st).
Fashion Show mall is a gun free zone as they have no guns allowed signage. But none in the parking lot area.
Years ago, I saw a guy open carrying in Apple and security asked him to leave.
Now they have armed security as many vegas places do now. Even the Walgreens has stores on the strip with armed security. Like the one next to Planet Hollywood. The one next to Palazzo has unarmed security wearing an airsoft type vest.
MGM properties and Caesars properties have tactical security. Imagine guys who look like SWAT, but with no rifle. So place carrier, handgun, pistol and rifle mags and wearing green/brown.
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why do they have rifle mags, but no rifle?
I questioned this too. Seems like additional weight to have to carry around 99.99% of the time.
My thought is that in a rush scenario when they grab their rifle from the office/armory, then it's 1 less thing to grab as well. Or if a Metro goes down and they need to pick up and use their rifle, then they have ammo too or if Metro runs out of ammo.
Also, they were the Pmags with the window. So it's not like they were carrying empty mags just for show like how the guard did at the airport after 9/11.
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I questioned this too. Seems like additional weight to have to carry around 99.99% of the time.
My thought is that in a rush scenario when they grab their rifle from the office/armory, then it's 1 less thing to grab as well. Or if a Metro goes down and they need to pick up and use their rifle, then they have ammo too or if Metro runs out of ammo.
Also, they were the Pmags with the window. So it's not like they were carrying empty mags just for show like how the guard did at the airport after 9/11.
in close quarters (inside a casino or hotel), the proper weapon would be a sidearm.
if, however, a rifle is needed, the sidearm will hopefully be sufficient to protect the user while they try to get to wherever their rifle is stored.
Public perception regarding scary black rifles play a role, too. I'm sure the property owners made the decision not to trigger any of their guests by the sight of an AR15 nearby, even if it's in the hands of a security guard.
Having the ammo already on them makes more sense when they have to waste time getting to the rifle and back to where it's needed. No time to load up on ammo/mags.
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Public perception regarding scary black rifles play a role, too. I'm sure the property owners made the decision not to trigger any of their guests by the sight of an AR15 nearby, even if it's in the hands of a security guard.
I also think if a guard where to get his weapon taken, then the lawyers will have a field day. The scary rifle in court has more emotion than a handgun taken.
They often travel in 2-3, but i've seen some walking alone.
About a month ago, there was a guy open carrying his rifle and handgun on the strip. No one really noticed and no police interaction.
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Or maybe while they are engaging the perps, back-up will be coming with the rifles.
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Or maybe while they are engaging the perps, back-up will be coming with the rifles.
Who would be back-up? From what i see, the security employees are already spread thin, handling complaints of rowdy customers, guarding the carts used to collect the money from slots, accompanying the chips as tables are replenished, etc. i don't know if there are enough extra guards to run & grab the rifles.
Anytime there is a disturbance, security's number one job is to protect the gaming areas they are assigned to. i don't think someone on the other end of the casino will leave their area unguarded -- vulnerable to theft -- in order to grab rifles for security personnel engaging criminals on the other end of the casino.
i saw a woman at Circus Circus suffer a seizure while at the BJ table. One guard stood over her while a second guard watched the table -- i suspect to make sure the chips didn't walk off. An incident like that could be staged hypothetically to distract employees while someone grabs a fistful of chips or does something else shady. The woman was thrashing on the floor for at least a couple of minutes until someone came to her aid. Nobody -- not a customer and not an employee -- bothered to help her by placing anything between her teeth or holding her head to prevent injury.
That kind of tells me the staff has been instructed to do as they are trained, which means don't get distracted from protecting the casino's money.
Maybe after the mass shooting at the concert policies and security staff sizes were upgraded? i just know what i saw that time at Circus Circus and other less serious situations where security had to get involved.
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Security wearing tactical gear and rifles attract too much attention and make people feel uneasy which is opposite of what a casino wants to do. If people see tactical security, they think why do they need them and is something bad going to happen? Casino's want to make people feel at ease with no worries, and want them to just focus on gambling.
Suprised they walk around the casino in tactical gear
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I used to think "Wow, look how seriously the casino is about protecting their customers". I felt proud. Wanted. And happy that I was valued, loved, and treasured.
Then I found out they're not there for me........or anybody else gambling in the casino. :rofl:
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Security wearing tactical gear and rifles attract too much attention and make people feel uneasy which is opposite of what a casino wants to do. If people see tactical security, they think why do they need them and is something bad going to happen? Casino's want to make people feel at ease with no worries, and want them to just focus on gambling.
Suprised they walk around the casino in tactical gear
They also walk outside of the casino itself, on the sidewalk and chat with Metro, and walk from 1 property to another. I saw a few on the escalator by LINQ. I assume they're going to Harrahs/Flamingo from Caesars as Planet Hollywood is a longer walk.
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I used to think "Wow, look how seriously the casino is about protecting their customers". I felt proud. Wanted. And happy that I was valued, loved, and treasured.
Then I found out they're not there for me........or anybody else gambling in the casino. :rofl:
In general you're right. But they will escort you to your car or the cashier if you won something big. I was on a table a few years ago at Harrahs playing Let It Ride. A guy hit the straight flush and won $77K that's the progressive. They paid him in chips and asked if he wants an escort to the cashier. He said no.
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1 hotel seems to be going back to the old Vegas, even though they weren't around.
Resorts World not only has free parking till end of August, but now no resort fee.
We went there last month and it was dead. I was like 1 of 5 playing slots in the entire place. Tables had maybe 1 player at every other table. This was a Wednesday around lunch time.
Half the food hall was still not open (as in shut down).
They opened just before covid. You can tell Chinese is their target clientel. Not as obvious as Lucky Dragon. When you cater to 1 culture, you alienate the others.
They had a new CEO a few months ago and he isn't there anymore.
They tried to have a Mr. Beast event a few months ago and it was a dud. IIRC, it was like $1K for 2 days there (hotel stay included). Mr. Beast didn't even show up. Shitty gift bag that had like left overs from the Mr. Beast retail store, so like size S shirts and lame stickers and things like that. People were told to wait in their room for a "surprise" that never came. So they were in their room for like 8 hours and nothing. None of the Mr. Beast crew that's in his videos showed up either. Sounds like RW bought the rights to use the name from Mr. Beast. They offered refunds to all those who participated in it. There's also a class action lawsuit and IDK what the status is. The new CEO left shorty after this event.
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Charging for parking and resort fees are on the top of my list as to why I think Vegas is taking advantage of the visitors.
California Hotel, Main Street, and Fremont Downtown charging "resort fees" are a joke. These properties are hardly "resorts" like the properties on the Strip and some upscale off-strip locales.
I feel free parking should be the norm. People are gambling in the casinos and I feel it is a nice gesture to provide free parking while gamblers lose hundreds and even thousands in the casino. Charging $30 and up for parking is just chicken sh*t.
Anyway, there are lots of videos out there saying the same thing: Vegas is getting ridiculously expensive and the nickel and diming is off the charts. Visitor numbers are down and are continuing the downward trend.
I've said this earlier and I still feel the same way. I'll still go to Vegas but I don't feel the excitement, anticipation, and value like before.
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Charging for parking and resort fees are on the top of my list as to why I think Vegas is taking advantage of the visitors.
California Hotel, Main Street, and Fremont Downtown charging "resort fees" are a joke. These properties are hardly "resorts" like the properties on the Strip and some upscale off-strip locales.
I feel free parking should be the norm. People are gambling in the casinos and I feel it is a nice gesture to provide free parking while gamblers lose hundreds and even thousands in the casino. Charging $30 and up for parking is just chicken sh*t.
Anyway, there are lots of videos out there saying the same thing: Vegas is getting ridiculously expensive and the nickel and diming is off the charts. Visitor numbers are down and are continuing the downward trend.
I've said this earlier and I still feel the same way. I'll still go to Vegas but I don't feel the excitement, anticipation, and value like before.
Even thought the strip and downtown are down like 5% from last year, it's not like they're down 30%. This is strictly gaming revenue. So had they not pushed out the middle income and lower gamblers, I wonder if that would have made up for the 5% decrease.
One could argue that the richer spend more at other things that increase revenue like restaurants and the hotel fees, but I think these people would come anyways and making a little extra on fees is much less than a lower income gambler would lose. Example: Average daily resort fee is like $50 per day. So a 5 day stay is $250 per room in resort fee revenue. Assume a couple go and stay in the room and gamble a little bit. They would def lose more than $125 each.
Of course some don't play at all, but the above is just an example on my non-expert Vegas economist professional opinion.
Then add in people are avoiding vegas 1 month before and after F1 due to the construction. So that's 2 months of loss/reduced travelers/revenue.
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Ha ha, just watched this video where somewhere in Aria somebody is charging $26 for a bottle of water, LOL!
And elsewhere they are charging $60 for Early check-in fee.
Yeah, implode Vegas, implode. :rofl: I'll be home doing this: :popcorn:
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Ha ha, just watched this video where somewhere in Aria somebody is charging $26 for a bottle of water, LOL!
And elsewhere they are charging $60 for Early check-in fee.
Yeah, implode Vegas, implode. :rofl: I'll be home doing this: :popcorn:
Who could have predicted water would cost so much in the middle of the fracking desert?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Ha ha, just watched this video where somewhere in Aria somebody is charging $26 for a bottle of water, LOL!
And elsewhere they are charging $60 for Early check-in fee.
Yeah, implode Vegas, implode. :rofl: I'll be home doing this: :popcorn:
Is this high, of course. But it isn't anything new. I've seen hotels charge about $18 for a small bottle of Fiji water over the years. Aria didn't post the price, so when the person checked out, that's when they found out how much it is.
This guy is a moron for not asking first how much the water is and people are just looking for a reason to get mad at a billion dollar hotel.
The early check in sounds about right for the past many years too. I've paid it only once. We landed on the red eye and I didn't sleep on the flight over. Got to the lobby at 9am and I wanted to sleep, instead of waiting till 3pm.
All the other times we checked in early, it was waived due to our player status.
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Sounds like minibar prices are no longer limited to the minibar. $$$$ The prices for in-room snacks and beverages are just crazy! :crazy:
i can see charging for early check-in or late check-out. Housekeeping needs time to make rooms ready for new guests.
Some services during your stay are not done daily. But, when you check out, they have to perform every service before someone else checks in. If the allotted time for that is cut by a 2-3 hours to accommodate late check-outs, then the hotel may need more housekeepers and room cleaning equipment. Early check-ins also reduce that time available, making it harder to ensure you have a room ready upon arrival.
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Sounds like minibar prices are no longer limited to the minibar. $$$$ The prices for in-room snacks and beverages are just crazy! :crazy:
i can see charging for early check-in or late check-out. Housekeeping needs time to make rooms ready for new guests.
Some services during your stay are not done daily. But, when you check out, they have to perform every service before someone else checks in. If the allotted time for that is cut by a 2-3 hours to accommodate late check-outs, then the hotel may need more housekeepers and room cleaning equipment. Early check-ins also reduce that time available, making it harder to ensure you have a room ready upon arrival.
The "mini bars" now have more stuff than just food/drinks too. "PLeasure kits" that have condoms and lube, phone charging cords, phone battery pack, i've even seen tylenol type stuff too.
I was at Cosmo about a year ago playing $15 craps. No waitress came by for about an hour. Had a guy betting black chips and had about $800 on the table at any given time. He asked the pitboss where's the waitress and pit boss shrugged his shoulders. I get if he did that to me who has only $66 on the table, but to respond like that to a "high roller" is unacceptable. The guy was pissed too.
This was the only table open and had about 4 of us on it. So it's not like it was busy. The pitboss should have got on the phone and made a call to have drinks sent over. I'm sure there's a way to do that and also take everyone elses order at the same time.
I had to go to the store nearest to the craps table as I was very thristy. I spent $14 on a 1L Fiji water.
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I totally understand the logistics in getting rooms ready and early check-in does make it more hectic for the hotel to accommodate.
Problem with me is they never charged it before. High end places I understand. They have a standard that people who want to stay at those places expect.
But I stay at the "regular" places that never used to charge this fee before. And I never cared if I see some "not too clean" spots here and there. Being able to check in early was greatly appreciated.
I think this stuff happened after covid and nobody wanted to work anymore. biden made it easier to just stay home and collect checks from the government.
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I totally understand the logistics in getting rooms ready and early check-in does make it more hectic for the hotel to accommodate.
Problem with me is they never charged it before. High end places I understand. They have a standard that people who want to stay at those places expect.
But I stay at the "regular" places that never used to charge this fee before. And I never cared if I see some "not too clean" spots here and there. Being able to check in early was greatly appreciated.
I think this stuff happened after covid and nobody wanted to work anymore. biden made it easier to just stay home and collect checks from the government.
I think another huge factor that's not said is it's up to the front desk person as well to charge or not. I know lots who are asked to pay and many who aren't asked to pay and they aren't "gamblers". The logic is if it's not charged, maybe you will tip. The "$20 trick". Applies to upgraded rooms too.
The $20 trick still remains and hasn't gone up due to inflation or anything, which is good. This has been around for decades.
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i hear that some hotels charge if things are even moved in the minibar or refrigerator...
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i hear that some hotels charge if things are even moved in the minibar or refrigerator...
Some use a combination of infrared motion sensors and RFID tags to monitor the removal of items from the minibar accurately. As soon as motion is detected, it tracks anything you remove even if you're just reading the labels and putting them back.
Others use wireless tags to augment manual inventorying to see what needs restocking.
If you don't intend to use your minibar and want to avoid unintentional charges, you can usually request the minibar be locked to prevent anyone from rummaging and racking up charges.
I'm sure part of the minibar prices includes the technology they use to track usage and identify which items are most popular.
https://hotelchantelle.com/how-do-minibars-in-hotels-track-what-is-taken/
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i hear that some hotels charge if things are even moved in the minibar or refrigerator...
Some will charge you the momement it's moved. Some will charge you after 30 seconds if it's not put back.
The new thing are the smoking censors that can pick up vaping as well. At TI for the past few months have been known to give off false alerts and no one is sent to your room once the silent alert goes off. You don't know until you check out and see the $500 charge. So it's not like a smoke detector that beeps when triggered.
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Some will charge you the momement it's moved. Some will charge you after 30 seconds if it's not put back.
The new thing are the smoking censors that can pick up vaping as well. At TI for the past few months have been known to give off false alerts and no one is sent to your room once the silent alert goes off. You don't know until you check out and see the $500 charge. So it's not like a smoke detector that beeps when triggered.
Sensors are not the only evidence hotels use to detect if someone should be charged for cleaning.
If you're a heavy smoker and you smoke in your car with the windows up and AC blasting, you're going to have the particles and smell of smoke all over your clothes and skin. Leaving your stinky clothes in the room for a couple of days can result in the need to do a thorough cleaning to remove the smell.
Also, any tangible evidence of smoking or vaping can cause you to be charged for cleaning, such as cigarette butts in cups or aluminum cans, vaping liquid packaging or containers, used matches, etc. Some have been charged for cleaning for simply bringing the car ashtray into the room to be dumped in a trashcan and washed. Ashes alone can create the smell of smoking.
Basically, guests need to think about what they are doing to avoid the cleaning charge. Anything smoking or vaping related needs to kept away from the room, and any packaging, receipts or empty vaping vials should be left outside or thrown in a trashcan/dumpster elsewhere.
Hotels will try to gather photo evidence when they can to support room fees charged for damage to the room (e.g. smoke damage), but the evidence may be as thin as housekeeping reporting a smell to management, and management verifying the smell themselves. Pretty hard to dispute that kind of evidence since it's someone's nose justifying the accusation!
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Resorts World not only has free parking till end of August, but now no resort fee.
We went there last month and it was dead. I was like 1 of 5 playing slots in the entire place. Tables had maybe 1 player at every other table. This was a Wednesday around lunch time.
Resorts World is near the end of the strip in no mans land, so harder to attract people. And I heard service is lacking since it opened.
I've been wanting to stay there since I have the Hilton credit card for upgrades and credits. It's just there are better and cheaper places to stay on the strip off-peak.
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i hear that some hotels charge if things are even moved in the minibar or refrigerator...
The Palazzo has a refrigerator. It's completely filled with minibar stuff so I can't put leftovers in it. I could try and squeeze it in but I'd knock over stuff and get a big mini-bar bill. That's irritating.
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I just saw a video of Danny the Medic. He went to the MSS Buffet. Evidently the MSS Buffet now offers a snow crab leg Buffet on Saturdays dinner only. It also features some fish, shrimp, clams, and a variety of really great dishes like Prime Rib, sushi, and the usual staples like fried chicken, pork ribs, beans, mexican food, and their signature Hawaiian dishes way in the back. The Hawaiian dishes feature beef stew hawaiian style, shoyu chicken, mahi mahi, manapua, and kalua pork.
Now this is the type of buffet the MSS was once famous for and I'm glad they brought this type of buffet back, albeit only for Sat. dinner. But at $33.95 it is a great deal in my opinion. Eat a prime rib and a plate of crab legs and you are already ahead value wise. Can't get that at a sit-down restaurant and it's all you can eat also.
I hope this change becomes a permanent thing for the MSS buffet. It is the only buffet in Downtown and it's bound to draw more people to MSS. Boyd Gaming usually makes some dumb decisions but I think this is a good one.
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I just saw a video of Danny the Medic. He went to the MSS Buffet. Evidently the MSS Buffet now offers a snow crab leg Buffet on Saturdays dinner only. It also features some fish, shrimp, clams, and a variety of really great dishes like Prime Rib, sushi, and the usual staples like fried chicken, pork ribs, beans, mexican food, and their signature Hawaiian dishes way in the back. The Hawaiian dishes feature beef stew hawaiian style, shoyu chicken, mahi mahi, manapua, and kalua pork.
Now this is the type of buffet the MSS was once famous for and I'm glad they brought this type of buffet back, albeit only for Sat. dinner. But at $33.95 it is a great deal in my opinion. Eat a prime rib and a plate of crab legs and you are already ahead value wise. Can't get that at a sit-down restaurant and it's all you can eat also.
I hope this change becomes a permanent thing for the MSS buffet. It is the only buffet in Downtown and it's bound to draw more people to MSS. Boyd Gaming usually makes some dumb decisions but I think this is a good one.
It looked a lot better precovid. Quality wise.
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I just saw a video of Danny the Medic. He went to the MSS Buffet. Evidently the MSS Buffet now offers a snow crab leg Buffet on Saturdays dinner only. It also features some fish, shrimp, clams, and a variety of really great dishes like Prime Rib, sushi, and the usual staples like fried chicken, pork ribs, beans, mexican food, and their signature Hawaiian dishes way in the back. The Hawaiian dishes feature beef stew hawaiian style, shoyu chicken, mahi mahi, manapua, and kalua pork.
Now this is the type of buffet the MSS was once famous for and I'm glad they brought this type of buffet back, albeit only for Sat. dinner. But at $33.95 it is a great deal in my opinion. Eat a prime rib and a plate of crab legs and you are already ahead value wise. Can't get that at a sit-down restaurant and it's all you can eat also.
I hope this change becomes a permanent thing for the MSS buffet. It is the only buffet in Downtown and it's bound to draw more people to MSS. Boyd Gaming usually makes some dumb decisions but I think this is a good one.
Yup MSS buffet was my favorite (seeing how we usually stayed at MSS).
One night it was so bad for us at the crap table, pit boss gave us that buffet.
Didn't make up the losses but felt better being full.
That just reminded me of one of my first LV visits with pops and his buddy.
Was funny as hell as we did not have enough cash between us to buy a hot dog before leaving to the airport. :rofl:
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Yup MSS buffet was my favorite (seeing how we usually stayed at MSS).
One night it was so bad for us at the crap table, pit boss gave us that buffet.
Didn't make up the losses but felt better being full.
That just reminded me of one of my first LV visits with pops and his buddy.
Was funny as hell as we did not have enough cash between us to buy a hot dog before leaving to the airport. :rofl:
Oh yes. Back then MSS was always a go-to when we visit Vegas. While the food never was stellar, my tastes and outlook on food in general was in line with what they had to offer.
And the value was definitely there. Add to that I've always found the interior Victorian style decor with it's bright, airy, atmosphere made it a great place to relax, take your time eating, and enjoy watching other Hawaii people enjoy the buffet.
Funny about your trips with your Dad and his friends not even having enough cash to get a hot dog before leaving for the airport.
That's the way of the Hawaii gambler. :shaka: They will always try their luck, even if they are down to their last nickel. :thumbsup:
How often have I seen on my Vacations Hawaii trips where even while we're waiting for the buses to take us back to the airport, there is a bunch of Hawaiians at the Keno Lounge, making their last minute hail mary bets with their bankrolls down to practically nothing.
All this done with genuine smiles on their faces. They're there to play, come hell or high water. ;D
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I just saw a video of Danny the Medic.
We ran into him a few times.
1 was at the Starbucks in front the ferris wheel. Mrs. CMO wanted a macaroon and they didn't sell or have water. So I went to get her water at the slushy bar and they too didn't have water to buy. So I went into Sbux and was in line and Tung was in front of me. I said "hey, you're Tung. We watch DTM.". He then pointed and said "well, Danny's here too".
I called Mrs. CMO andtold her to come to Sbux and we took pics with both of them.
Then this last trip, I was walking around the slots at Venetian and ran into DTM again. I took pic, but Mrs. CMO didn't answer her phone so she missed out. She was upset.
Also, ran into Vegaslowroller a few years ago at Palazzo slots. He was playing by himself and not even filming. Mrs. CMO was hung over and I had to get her a powerade from the store. When I exited, I saw Daniel sitting at a slot. She missed out and was upset about that too.
I'm trying to catch up on my slot YT as I cannot watch it with our daughter as it's not good for her brain development. But Vegasmatt said in 2024, he lost about $400K. Assuming he played at El Cortez at least 50% of the time, that means El Cortez made $200K just off of him. I'm sure it's much higher than 50%, but that's just a low ball number guess. Add in all the people who come to watch him play who also play, that's all "free money" for the casino.
Many casinos stopped letting people film themselves unless you get permission first. It seems like El Cortez is the place that many of the youtubers are playing at. Compare this to covid days where you could film at MGM properties, Venetian, Wynn, etc...
Precovid, no one allowed filming. So for now, El Cortez is finding another way to make money.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mwmk_sy4dI8
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mwmk_sy4dI8
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I never saw why people feel the need to have a drink and pay those kind of prices. I get it if it's inside a club, but to just buy a drink and to walk around or to have a $18 beer when eating at a casual place is crazy. Even if you got the money, it's the concept. I get buying stuff that you cannot get easily at home like certain wines or mixed drinks. But beer is beer.
The sad part is that when playing, the waitresses don't come around as often like how they did precovid.
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I never saw why people feel the need to have a drink and pay those kind of prices. I get it if it's inside a club, but to just buy a drink and to walk around or to have a $18 beer when eating at a casual place is crazy. Even if you got the money, it's the concept. I get buying stuff that you cannot get easily at home like certain wines or mixed drinks. But beer is beer.
The sad part is that when playing, the waitresses don't come around as often like how they did precovid.
Maybe they are catering to the "already blitzed out of my mind" crowd. Alcohol makes you stupid.
I've seen young people barely old enough to gamble drop a grand in less than 10 minutes at a $100 minimum blackjack table with no clue how to play the game. My guess is they were spending their parent's money. High prices on food & drink would be no concern.
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Maybe they are catering to the "already blitzed out of my mind" crowd. Alcohol makes you stupid.
I've seen young people barely old enough to gamble drop a grand in less than 10 minutes at a $100 minimum blackjack table with no clue how to play the game. My guess is they were spending their parent's money. High prices on food & drink would be no concern.
That makes a lot more sense. Pin Up Pizza outside of Planet Hollywood got some bad PR for their $75 boston pizza size cheese pizza whole. And for $23.99 1 slice of pizza and a beer because they had no official sign for the price. So this way they can change teh price depending on if a concert just got out or it's slow.
I was playing craps at Venetian and a middle eastern guy comes to the table in his very ugly vercace shirt. He was asking how to play craps to the pitboss mid roll. Pit boss didn't really want to explain and was giving a little attitude. Until the guy took out a banana chip ($1K) from his pocket. Then the pitboss explained a little more and was much more nicer. He bet it on the place bet of 6 and lost when the 7 came. So he reached into his pocket and pulled another banana chip and put it on the 6 again. He won. Then left the chip and the 6 hit again. He then walked away.
Ran into the guy about an hour later when I was playing slots and he said hello and asked how I did at the craps table.
I've noticed that middle easterns like to wear these ugly shirts.Since the guy was betting banana chips, I will assume his shirt was real.
https://www.versace.com/us/en/men/clothing/shirts/barocco-silk-shirt-black-print/1003926-1A03044_5B000.html
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That makes a lot more sense. Pin Up Pizza outside of Planet Hollywood got some bad PR for their $75 boston pizza size cheese pizza whole. And for $23.99 1 slice of pizza and a beer because they had no official sign for the price. So this way they can change teh price depending on if a concert just got out or it's slow.
I was playing craps at Venetian and a middle eastern guy comes to the table in his very ugly vercace shirt. [snip]
When I hear of someone that's Middle Eastern and in America, I think back to all the oil sheiks, princes and military who get paid obscene amounts of money to work and attend schools or military training in the US.
It's not just Middle Eastern countries that do that. My first stop when I graduated from college was Keesler AFB for Computer Officer training. The class of 12 students had 2 Saudi officers, one Thai officer (female), one officer from Bolivia, and one from Tunisia. The rest were Americans -- all Air Force 2nd Lieutenants.
The Bolivian was a very nice middle-aged man. He told us the amount of money he was being paid to attend US training was ridiculous, but he stopped short of giving a number. I know from later trips to Saudi Arabia, their military also pays their officers exorbitant amounts of money to live, work and train in the US. Whatever I was getting for travel pay was just a tiny percentage of what they made.
Having said that, you might have been talking to someone in a similar situation. You may also have been talking to an oil millionaire or a member of the royal family in an Arabic country. When i was in Saudi, there were 99 princes running around each on a scale from 5 to 40 years old. i once saw a kid who looked 12 driving a Mercedes through the streets of Riyadh. I was told the flags on the front of the car indicate he's royalty, possibly a prince.
Anyone who's part of the royal family would have plenty of money to bet $1k (or larger) chips on any game whether or not they know how the game works. I mean, it's better to be lucky than good, right? :geekdanc:
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The sad part is that when playing, the waitresses don't come around as often like how they did precovid.
Yeah. That's why I don't order anything when they come around. They take too long to come back. I buy a tall boy from the gift shop and lug that around the casino floor with me. Some people say you're not supposed to but I have yet to be stopped.
I will order drinks when playing craps. They come around fast. Sometimes too fast.
Craps is a fast moving game so it's hard to chug beer which I like to do. Many times I only took one swig and next thing you know she's back asking if I want another, LOL.
Not sure if that's normal but I do tip them a red chip everytime they bring me a beer. :rofl:
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Yeah. That's why I don't order anything when they come around. They take too long to come back. I buy a tall boy from the gift shop and lug that around the casino floor with me. Some people say you're not supposed to but I have yet to be stopped.
I will order drinks when playing craps. They come around fast. Sometimes too fast.
Craps is a fast moving game so it's hard to chug beer which I like to do. Many times I only took one swig and next thing you know she's back asking if I want another, LOL.
Not sure if that's normal but I do tip them a red chip everytime they bring me a beer. :rofl:
Since I order juice, coffee, or water, I usually get 2 at a time and tip $1. Because the water bottles are the mini ones so tipping $1 is way too much for just 1 bottle. This way getting 2 it comes out $0.50 each. Still overpaying, but it helps reduce the cost. I'm a $15 table min player. If I'm a $25 table min player, then I'd tip more. Add in the above of them not coming around as often like precovid, I get 2 drinks and don't have to wait 45 mins for her to come around again.
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Yeah. That's why I don't order anything when they come around. They take too long to come back. I buy a tall boy from the gift shop and lug that around the casino floor with me. Some people say you're not supposed to but I have yet to be stopped.
I will order drinks when playing craps. They come around fast. Sometimes too fast.
Craps is a fast moving game so it's hard to chug beer which I like to do. Many times I only took one swig and next thing you know she's back asking if I want another, LOL.
Not sure if that's normal but I do tip them a red chip everytime they bring me a beer. :rofl:
https://youtu.be/OIRjqdgfglg
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The sad part is that when playing, the waitresses don't come around as often like how they did precovid.
Tip bigger ! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Tip bigger ! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Others at the craps table are tipping from $5-20 and it's the same speed.
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Others at the craps table are tipping from $5-20 and it's the same speed.
True. In almost every casino, the waitresses go in order by table. When they get a full tray of orders, they go to the bar, then deliver what they had to that point. There's little chance the waitress will be running back to a $20 tipper and ignoring everyone else. That's just 4 times a $5 tipper, so she's losing out if she ignores more than 4 of those.
If you want VIP treatment, you have to go the the high limit table games. Those are the ones the casino wants to make sure gets all the alcohol they can drink!
I don't really drink alcohol in Vegas. Free drinks can make you play sloppily and make bad decisions that you wouldn't do otherwise.
Having said that, I watched a Vegas local who was out on the town drinking to get over his divorce being finalized. The second day he found me we played at the same table from 11pm to 6am. He staggered away with $20,000 from the same $300 max bet BJ table. he was playing according to what he guessed the next cards would be. i played by the book, and only made about $300.
So, sometimes the gambling gods are kind to drunks. And he was REALLY drunk!
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True. In almost every casino, the waitresses go in order by table. When they get a full tray of orders, they go to the bar, then deliver what they had to that point. There's little chance the waitress will be running back to a $20 tipper and ignoring everyone else. That's just 4 times a $5 tipper, so she's losing out if she ignores more than 4 of those.
If you want VIP treatment, you have to go the the high limit table games. Those are the ones the casino wants to make sure gets all the alcohol they can drink!
I don't really drink alcohol in Vegas. Free drinks can make you play sloppily and make bad decisions that you wouldn't do otherwise.
Having said that, I watched a Vegas local who was out on the town drinking to get over his divorce being finalized. The second day he found me we played at the same table from 11pm to 6am. He staggered away with $20,000 from the same $300 max bet BJ table. he was playing according to what he guessed the next cards would be. i played by the book, and only made about $300.
So, sometimes the gambling gods are kind to drunks. And he was REALLY drunk!
Up after playing BJ for that long is a win, even if it is only $300.
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Up after playing BJ for that long is a win, even if it is only $300.
Yes, but if i'd been down the same amount, it would have been worth watching blind luck being in total control of someone's play.
There were people behind me actually yelling at him things like, "What? Splitting 10s against an ace??!!" I'd look back and say, "Just watch." The split tens would make both hands, and the dealer would turn over a 3 and bust out. Had he stayed on 20, the dealer would have had 21. No matter what he did, it turned out to be the best decision, even though according to BJ theory it was the wrong play.
To add to the drama, he'd sit there for 10-20 seconds before finishing the hand telling the dealer, "You can't beat me." Then he'd make his decision and prove he was right!
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Yes, but if i'd been down the same amount, it would have been worth watching blind luck being in total control of someone's play.
There were people behind me actually yelling at him things like, "What? Splitting 10s against an ace??!!" I'd look back and say, "Just watch." The split tens would make both hands, and the dealer would turn over a 3 and bust out. Had he stayed on 20, the dealer would have had 21. No matter what he did, it turned out to be the best decision, even though according to BJ theory it was the wrong play.
To add to the drama, he'd sit there for 10-20 seconds before finishing the hand telling the dealer, "You can't beat me." Then he'd make his decision and prove he was right!
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That sounds like a fun table to be at. I gave up playing BJ. The last time was in 2019 or so at Circa. $10 table and I lost like 7 hands in a row. And all bad beats. I would have 20 and dealer would get a 5 card 21. Stuff like that. And I was alone on teh table, so I lost $100 in about a minute.
After that, I told myself that I give up on playing BJ since that is how my luck usually is for that game. Then add in I stress out over my small $10 bet to hit or stand cause no matter what I did, I would lose. So book says to stand, but everytime I do, dealer wins. Or if I hit, the dealer would get the 1 card he needs to beat me. Compare this to having $66 on the craps table at any given time or $60 on the Utlimate TX Holdem.
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That sounds like a fun table to be at. I gave up playing BJ. The last time was in 2019 or so at Circa. $10 table and I lost like 7 hands in a row. And all bad beats. I would have 20 and dealer would get a 5 card 21. Stuff like that. And I was alone on teh table, so I lost $100 in about a minute.
After that, I told myself that I give up on playing BJ since that is how my luck usually is for that game. Then add in I stress out over my small $10 bet to hit or stand cause no matter what I did, I would lose. So book says to stand, but everytime I do, dealer wins. Or if I hit, the dealer would get the 1 card he needs to beat me. Compare this to having $66 on the craps table at any given time or $60 on the Utlimate TX Holdem.
The thing that helped me win BJ wasn't exactly counting cards as much as tracking the flow of the hands. If you can get the same flow in a double-deck game consistently, you can do well. If the cards are flowing against you (you bust every hit, dealer doesn't bust with bust cards showing, etc.), leave the table or try playing multiple hands to change the flow in your favor.
i once sat down at a $25 table soon after arriving and checking into the hotel probably about 9pm. I made $1800 in about 90 minutes playing $25-$50 hands. The dealer busted about 75% of the time she was supposed to, and I probably won all but a couple of my splits and double-downs. There was a young couple there before I sat in, and they were doing okay. But adding a 3rd player seemed to be the thing that kept the cards cycling in our favor. As soon as I lost 3 hands in a row, i went to bed feeling pretty good about how my trip had begun!
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Today for July 4th Danny the Medic went to the America restaurant in the NY NY casino. He said to celebrate he is going to eat Apple Pie and Hot Dog since nothing is more American than those two foods.
Then the f*cker changes his mind and decides to only eat apple pie and ice cream. He claims he ate 5 hot dogs at his apartment the other day so didn't want to eat a Hot Dog.
The America restaurant listed their foot long hot dog at $14 so I wanted to see what the deal was about this hot dog that made them charge 14 bucks for it. But asshat Danny the Bullsh*t decides he won't eat the hot dog.
Then he goes home and eats a hot dog by heating it in his microwave, stating that some of his viewers are gonna comment and complain about why he didn't eat the hot dog like he said he would. As if eating a fricken hot dog at home is gonna make up for it. :grrr: What a dumb-ass.
Anyway I did comment saying I wanted a review on the America hot dog. That was the intent of his video in the first place.
Sigh. Vegas and some of it's Food Bloggers are not what they used to be..... ::)
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Today for July 4th Danny the Medic went to the America restaurant in the NY NY casino. He said to celebrate he is going to eat Apple Pie and Hot Dog since nothing is more American than those two foods.
Then the f*cker changes his mind and decides to only eat apple pie and ice cream. He claims he ate 5 hot dogs at his apartment the other day so didn't want to eat a Hot Dog.
The America restaurant listed their foot long hot dog at $14 so I wanted to see what the deal was about this hot dog that made them charge 14 bucks for it. But asshat Danny the Bullsh*t decides he won't eat the hot dog.
Then he goes home and eats a hot dog by heating it in his microwave, stating that some of his viewers are gonna comment and complain about why he didn't eat the hot dog like he said he would. As if eating a fricken hot dog at home is gonna make up for it. :grrr: What a dumb-ass.
Anyway I did comment saying I wanted a review on the America hot dog. That was the intent of his video in the first place.
Sigh. Vegas and some of it's Food Bloggers are not what they used to be..... ::)
This is what happens when you live vicariously through other people on Social Media.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/K6jksmg0Lx8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChROzRdYPn8
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Report on ARFCOM where security found a guests handgun in a Wynn suite. Guest left their gun on the nightstand, went to dinner, then security confronted him and put the gun and ammo in their armory. Suspected the maid saw it when preparing the suite for the night, or it was detected at the entrance weapons detectors, or both.
No issues except having to retrieve it from the armory and being escorted out at the end of his stay.
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Report on ARFCOM where security found a guests handgun in a Wynn suite. Guest left their gun on the nightstand, went to dinner, then security confronted him and put the gun and ammo in their armory. Suspected the maid saw it when preparing the suite for the night, or it was detected at the entrance weapons detectors, or both.
No issues except having to retrieve it from the armory and being escorted out at the end of his stay.
Wynn has no weapons detectors at their entrances. No hotel does, on or off strip. Some do xray your luggage if left with the bell hop.
They also don't use facial recognition software for people about this, nor do they mark your reservation with the hotel. Or mark your RSVP for all future hotel stays.
I've had to check my firearm at various armories in Vegas hotels and they're really cool about it as it's no biggie. Each hotel also has their own SOP.
Venetian/Palazzo will escort you off property once you claim your gun from their armory. I was waiting for my ride to show up in the front of the lobby and the 2 guards were just hanging out with me. They didn't rush me to leave. They also weren't standing next to me, but like 10 feet behind me. I've stayed multiple times since and was never asked if I have a firearm when checking in, was never asked when giving my players card, or stopped. I even ran into the same security guard who escorted me off property 2 days prior and he never stopped to ask me about my firearm.
Planet Hollywood, I had to check my gun and remove the mag and clear the chamber. When I claimed it back, the manager there said I'm able to load and holster (IWB). Just do so pointing the firearm in a safe direction when loading and making ready. They didn't escort me out. I walked from the armory to the strip exit myself.
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There's more and more vids of how vegas is greedy and pushing people out. Now with the BBB passing, the new thing is that 90% of losses can be deducted compared to 100%. The common example being used are for pro poker players. I look at it this way, if you're a "pro" and breaking even, then how do you pay your bills as not all pro's have sponsors. So this would be a very small demographic it would affect.
First they were blaming the tariffs on Canada that will continue to lose Canadian visitors. Now the 90% loss deduction. Of course blaming the rising cost in general and fees was blamed as well, but not to the extent of these 2 via social media sources.
And soon, handpays will increase from $1200 to $2K.
I didn't read this portion of the bill in full, just cliffnotes for the above. But I do think people are overreacting about the 90% thing as I'm sure most people lose way more than breaking even. Vegas wasn't built on people breaking even or winning. So it should have minimal effect, it seems like people just wanna be mad at Trump and the GOP.
So with that being said, Vegas losing visitors is their own doing. Like mentioned in this post, too many fees and higher cost of general things. Like the $0.99 shrimp cocktail is gone, $9.99 strip buffets, $4.99 steak and eggs, etc...What I have noticed is the cost of higher end things haven't gone up as much as these.
Example: The $9.99 buffet is now $35.99. A steak at a nice steakhouse was $60 and is now $70. So it didnt' increase 3 fold like the buffet. Which circles back to my thing about the middle income and lower being pushed out. Everyone above middle income is fine. Then add in the $5 tables are gone. Resort fees have been around for years now, so the days of $15/night Circus Circus have been gone. Now it's $15/night plus $40 daily resort fee. So this had minimal impact on the lower income tourist.
1 could say parking fee's are also impacting as that only came about post covid.
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+1 more on missing the $5 tables. Vegas used to be a fun place with experienced people
tending to customers who appreciated good and friendly service. These satisfied people
would often leave good tips.
Check out the youtuber in Vegas. There are important lessons for the Aloha state.
https://youtu.be/SQ2PadOPpW8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaQP220U2YE
The alarms are out but it was noted above that the people who ARE going to Vegas are spending more. Duh.....do they have a choice? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We're thinking of changing the way we do Vegas. Instead of running here and there and visiting different casino properties we're looking at staying at just one property that has more or less everything we like to do in Vegas.
The nicer local properties off-strip (like Red Rock and Green Valley) has everything as far as dining, entertainment, gambling and even shopping.
I still like staying at the Cal Downtown but if the gambling minimums are rivaling the nicer properties I might as well stay at those places instead. I do really like Circa, though. Maybe I'll stay there.
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1 could say parking fee's are also impacting as that only came about post covid.
The parking fees are a double-edged sword. If the casinos want to shear the sheep more by charging for parking, the amount charged needs to be very small. otherwise, people will just take a cab or Uber. Given the cost of rental cars, drunks on the road, chances of getting a DUI yourself, and just the frustration of Vegas traffic at times, parking fees may be the last straw in convincing visitors that passing on the rental car and taking a shuttle/cab/Uber everywhere is a better option.
Fewer drivers means less parking revenue, and that might force them to stop charging for parking again. Free parking used to be a bonus when deciding which casino to play at. The big "secret" in Vegas used to be valet parking. Most casinos never charged for valet, but they did charge for self-parking though some allowed up to 2 hours free parking with validation. Tipping the valet was less than most paid parking, and you had the convenience of someone bringing your car to you. Once everyone started doing valet, though, it became a hassle having to stand in a long line waiting your turn.
Too bad they didn't build a subway between all the properties. Although, i have heard their public bus system is super cheap and convenient, but it's mostly locals using it. Visitors want VIP treatment.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaQP220U2YE
The alarms are out but it was noted above that the people who ARE going to Vegas are spending more. Duh.....do they have a choice? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We're thinking of changing the way we do Vegas. Instead of running here and there and visiting different casino properties we're looking at staying at just one property that has more or less everything we like to do in Vegas.
The nicer local properties off-strip (like Red Rock and Green Valley) has everything as far as dining, entertainment, gambling and even shopping.
I still like staying at the Cal Downtown but if the gambling minimums are rivaling the nicer properties I might as well stay at those places instead. I do really like Circa, though. Maybe I'll stay there.
Most of downtown is $15. But they do have $5 tables sometimes, it's a luck of the draw. And even if there is a $5 table, it might be too packed to join in. So knowing the mins are $15 now most of the time, you're better staying at GVR or RR. Plus the clientel has more class. The downside would be that DT does have more eating places and you can just walk across the street if 1 casino's tables are cold. Both GVR and RR have free parking. Circa charges. Fremont is still free valet. IDK about the other casinos.
Our host casino for years is Palazzo/Venetian. Ive never made tier 2 status and we haven't had to pay for a room or resort fees in many years. Last year was the 1st time I made tier 2 status, which is only 3,000 points. So now we get free parking. So they're genrous on room comps. They have $15 tables in teh day, which is shocking for a higher end place. Very good on property food from cheap to expensive. Plus they're on teh strip, so you can walk elsewhere to eat or play.
1 downside is their let it ride game isn't always open. the table is there, but it's not open often.This past Memorial Day weekend, i never saw it open at all. But the Thanksgiving in 2024 it was.
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The parking fees are a double-edged sword. If the casinos want to shear the sheep more by charging for parking, the amount charged needs to be very small. otherwise, people will just take a cab or Uber. Given the cost of rental cars, drunks on the road, chances of getting a DUI yourself, and just the frustration of Vegas traffic at times, parking fees may be the last straw in convincing visitors that passing on the rental car and taking a shuttle/cab/Uber everywhere is a better option.
Fewer drivers means less parking revenue, and that might force them to stop charging for parking again. Free parking used to be a bonus when deciding which casino to play at. The big "secret" in Vegas used to be valet parking. Most casinos never charged for valet, but they did charge for self-parking though some allowed up to 2 hours free parking with validation. Tipping the valet was less than most paid parking, and you had the convenience of someone bringing your car to you. Once everyone started doing valet, though, it became a hassle having to stand in a long line waiting your turn.
Too bad they didn't build a subway between all the properties. Although, i have heard their public bus system is super cheap and convenient, but it's mostly locals using it. Visitors want VIP treatment.
WHen valet began charging, they noticed a huge drop in tips. Which is why some tried to go to places that still allowed free valet. But it was only temporary as majority charge now. I get it, you lost a few hundred playing and have to pay $40 for valet, what's the incentive to tip too.
Every casino does have free 3 hours for locals. U need your NV drivers license to get in and out. YOu cannot enter by taking a ticket then find a local to scan their ID. You need to scan the ID to enter and leave. What does work is when you press the call button and tell the person you have tier status and it's not letting you out. They don't argue and just open the gate. But the drawback is it can take time for the person to answer the call. So now you're holding up traffic. Locals used to do this often until the 3 hour thing. But still do it if they exceed 3 hours.
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This video talks about resort fees. I just thought I'd share it because it's pretty funny. Especially the "resort fee tax" added on to the "resort fee". :rofl:
And it also mentions that during the winter if the pool is closed for example, tough shiite. The resort fee does not get reduced. :rofl:
I know I've mentioned this before, but the most hilarious BS about resort fees is the Downtown Boyd properties charging resort fees for their "amenities". Lol. Their fricken properties are more like gambling halls than resort properties.
The Cal has a cement pond with water in it and a closet they call a fitness room with 5 machines and some dumbells. The Fremont and Main St. has NOTHING. NOTHING. Yet they charge resort fees. So stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W62Ie7dKXRY
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Whats funnier than the pool closed is the "free" domestic calls.
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This video talks about resort fees. I just thought I'd share it because it's pretty funny. Especially the "resort fee tax" added on to the "resort fee". :rofl:
A few years ago at the Hawaii Capitol, there was a bill to charge the hotel taxes on the resort fees. The hotel execs came in to testify that resort fees were optional and guests could opt out of them. :rofl:
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A few years ago at the Hawaii Capitol, there was a bill to charge the hotel taxes on the resort fees. The hotel execs came in to testify that resort fees were optional and guests could opt out of them. :rofl:
Usually you don't know about resort fees if you haven't stayed in Vegas since the fees were added. So, until you get your bill, there's usually little chance to try and opt-out of them. After your stay, it's too late to opt-out.
Some places have passed laws now that all taxes, fees and other charges that exist on top of the room charge must be disclosed in writing at check-in. That gives the guests a chance to opt-out, but since they already made a reservation normally with the first night's charges authorized on a credit card, most won't try to find a cheaper room after arrival.
The fees have ticked off enough people that the FTC felt the need to at least force disclosure. This was last Dec.
In a landmark decision that will significantly impact how tourists book
Las Vegas hotels, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has passed
a final rule banning hotels from hiding mandatory resort fees in their
advertised rates. This change, approved by a 4-1 vote, promises to
bring unprecedented transparency to hotel pricing across Las Vegas
and the entire United States.
https://vegasnavigator.com/ftc-bans-hidden-resort-fees-major-changes-coming-to-vegas-hotel-booking/
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This video talks about resort fees. I just thought I'd share it because it's pretty funny. Especially the "resort fee tax" added on to the "resort fee". :rofl:
And it also mentions that during the winter if the pool is closed for example, tough shiite. The resort fee does not get reduced. :rofl:
I know I've mentioned this before, but the most hilarious BS about resort fees is the Downtown Boyd properties charging resort fees for their "amenities". Lol. Their fricken properties are more like gambling halls than resort properties.
The Cal has a cement pond with water in it and a closet they call a fitness room with 5 machines and some dumbells. The Fremont and Main St. has NOTHING. NOTHING. Yet they charge resort fees. So stupid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W62Ie7dKXRY
Don't feel excited on going to Vegas after watching that video. Diverting to Japan instead where you can get a lot of good deals.
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Don't feel excited on going to Vegas after watching that video. Diverting to Japan instead where you can get a lot of good deals.
We go to Vegas to eat, gamble, and enjoy 2A freedom of CCWing. So whether it's busy or not doesn't matter to us. But we prefer it slower as it's been since covid began. The days of walking the strip shoulder to shoulder of people are over. Think Waikiki Halloween is what it was like precovid at any time of the day, even in the 114degree heat.
It being slow actually benefits people like us. We got comp's during Memorial day weekend. I did the math and had we had to pay for a room, we would have had to pay about $5K out of pocket. So Vegas being slow, your lower tier gambler gets better deals. Compare this to precovid where we wouldn't get comp'd during holidays. We also went last year during thanksgiving week and the year before Xmas all comp'd.
But keep in mind that there's a diff between a "lower tier gambler" and someone gambles a little.
Lower tier gambler
Plays lowest table min they can find and for hours a day.
Or
Plays slots at $2-4 a spin for hours a day
Gambling budget is often a few thousand.
Someone who gambles a little
Buys in $100 at a table and leaves if they lose it.
Often plays only for 1-2 hours a day
Or
Plays $20 at a time in slots at $0.88 a spin then stops if they lose their $20
Gambling budget is often a few hundred
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ2PadOPpW8
This confirms my post about who Vegas is for now.
Add in if you're paying for a room and resort fee, then you don't gamble enough to be worth getting it comp'd. Refer to my above about the type of gamblers I mention.
Even when my gambling budget was only $2K, I played enough to get comps at shithole places like Excalibur. This was when Vegas had $10 tables on the strip and $5 downtown (precovid).
I never understood why people on vacation want cheap and shittty food. The Vegas social media pages I'm on, people often ask for cheap food. So they're told to go to McDonalds and get a hamburger that is under $3. If you cannot afford to eat a regular strip priced meal that's about $15-18, then don't go to Vegas. I mean, I get if there's no other options, but the strip has tons of food.
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Don't feel excited on going to Vegas after watching that video. Diverting to Japan instead where you can get a lot of good deals.
I'm thinking of Japan also. Other places of interest are Korea, Okinawa, and Thailand.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ2PadOPpW8
This confirms my post about who Vegas is for now.
Add in if you're paying for a room and resort fee, then you don't gamble enough to be worth getting it comp'd. Refer to my above about the type of gamblers I mention.
Even when my gambling budget was only $2K, I played enough to get comps at shithole places like Excalibur. This was when Vegas had $10 tables on the strip and $5 downtown (precovid).
I never understood why people on vacation want cheap and shittty food. The Vegas social media pages I'm on, people often ask for cheap food. So they're told to go to McDonalds and get a hamburger that is under $3. If you cannot afford to eat a regular strip priced meal that's about $15-18, then don't go to Vegas. I mean, I get if there's no other options, but the strip has tons of food.
When someone goes to Vegas their first time, they need to expect to spend more for what they get. However, for those of us with the better player ratings, most of the routine expenses like food, beverages and rooms are comped.
There are books written on how to be treated like a whale in Vegas without gambling like one. I'm sure current editions have changed many of their tips and advice, but it all comes down to how much time you spend playing and at what level you are betting. Even if you walk away ahead, you've accumulated rating points. Each game has a calculated house advantage, and if you play X number of hours and make an average size bet of Y, they will multiply those numbers with Z -- the house edge. That result is the expected house winnings over time. That's converted into rating points which will vary by casino.
Once you've established yourself in their rating system, the key is to buy in for more at the tables than you are willing to lose, bet more than the bare minimum per hand/dice roll, and try to walk away up, even, or only down a tiny bit. Your goal is to maximize winnings and minimize losses so you aren't having to dig yourself out of a deep hole. Try to keep playing for as long as the game is keeping you about even after the ups and downs. The longer you play, the higher the rating. Manage your money so you ride the ups longer than the downs. If I've doubled my buy-in, I play on whatever I have over that. If my profit keeps rising, I keep adjusting my "stop-loss" amount so I don't give it all back. If you can walk away even or a little ahead each session, you're a winner -- it doesn't matter how much ahead that is.
i've been able to use my points to pay for all my rooms after my first trip about 30 years ago. i asked for a player's card in every place I've played, and I always remembered to hand it to the dealer/insert it into the machine every single time i played a game. if you don't, you're throwing away points.
When you start getting offers from the casinos, they are based on your points and rating level. if you achieve a higher level, the offers get cheaper and better. At beginner level, you might only get a room discount offer, but at higher ones, you'll be offered free rooms and more.
It's a good idea to try and play mostly in the place you're staying, but going to another casino isn't going to hurt you as long as you only play a few hours at each. if i'm staying at The Cal, points accrue at all Boyd's properties, so sticking to that family of casinos really helps build up the point bank. Most big casinos are owned by just a few companies, and most have consolidated their points programs so gambling at any property owned by the same people will keep adding to your one account.
I can't remember the last time i paid for a meal in Vegas -- not since they closed The Hard Rock, i think. I really liked The Pink Taco Mexican restaurant. Very good food at prices that are similar to a mainland Chili's. i also took my younger girl to Olive Garden. it's one of the places we ate at often when living in VA, so she wanted to go.
That same trip with my daughter, The Cal put us on their invite list for the New Year's Eve party at Main Street Station. Full buffet, free drinks, party favors, souvenir champagne glasses, and chances to win door prizes including $500 in gaming chips and a trip to Hawaii. Hawaii residents could pick an alternate destination (e.g. Vegas? :geekdanc:).
I don't take the food coupon book at The Cal unless it's part of a package I bought to save my Frequent Flyer miles. If air fares are cheaper than normal, I'll usually pay that, then use my miles to get a first class upgrade. You have to check the flights carefully. Some legs don't offer 1st class, but as long as the Pacific Ocean leg does, I think it's worth the upgrade. The other legs, i just get the "more leg room" seating.
You really need to practice the games on your computer, phone, or with actual cards and dice. Put in lots of time so you're comfortable with the rules, the mechanics as well as the types of bets you can make. Go to The Wizard of Odds website for advice on which bets to avoid and how to use the rules to your advantage. Memorize the strategy charts/cards especially for BJ. Most places let you use the cards while playing, so pick up strategy cards for the games you play. You can print them from online, order nice plastic ones, or wait to buy them in the casino gift shops.
Take enough cash to withstand some down sessions early on. I set up a line of credit, so I have up to $10K available when i arrive just by signing a marker. Allows me to have that much available without carrying a lot of cash on the plane or around Vegas. It also saves on ATM fees which are pretty high in most casinos. Don't use credit cards for cash advances in a casino. You'll be paying way more than it's worth. For markers against your casino credit line, you have about 2 weeks +/- to pay it back after you take the parker out. You can buy back the markers with winnings before you leave, or just wait until you get home for the bill to arrive. Once you settle any outstanding markers, your credit line will be available on your next trip. Very convenient -- play now, pay later! :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
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https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=787197800298676&set=a.240352694983192
Las Vegas hotel occupancy dropped nearly 15% in June and another 17% in early July — the steepest decline among the top 25 U.S. tourism markets, according to new data from Smith Travel Research.
13.2% fewer international travelers visited Las Vegas in June compared to last year.
Hotel revenue per room (RevPAR) fell off a cliff, dropping nearly 29% to just just $102.75. Las Vegas hotels are earning significantly less per room than they were a year ago.
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One thing I really liked about Vegas is the eateries. All kinds of cuisine you can imagine in almost every ethnic group imaginable. And then there is fusion cuisine which makes it all the more better.
I don't really care for high-end eateries. If I have to go out of my way to dress a certain way to eat there I'd rather go somewhere else.
I do like nice restaurants but not foo-foo restaurants. You know, the Salt Bae type restaurants where he uses gold flakes and if he comes out to put a pinch of salt on your steak it instantly turns your steak into a $1000 dollar steak.
Yeah, let the guy who's trying to get into the pants of his new girlfriend spend that kind of money. Me and my wife will go to the Prime Rib Loft and eat the same thing for $950 dollars less.
It's all about fun and value. I don't mind paying fair prices. I know the days of the $1.99 breakfast and $3.99 buffets are gone.
Just don't rip me off with stupid fees, hidden fees, ridiculous pricing, and the nickel and diming of everything under the sun.
The casinos are already ripping us off with their gaming odds, rules, and minimum bets.
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I used to go to Vegas a lot, 2 and sometimes 3 times a year, for vacations or stopovers during work trips. I went to Front Sight for gun classes on most of my trips, gambled a lot, visited friends, and loved the cheap food and travel. I
went to Shot Show and CES/COMDEX conferences a few times.
Now Front Sight closed down, I don't gamble much, most of my friends left, and things are expensive so I don't have much of a reason to go there. I like spending a couple off-peak nights at the cheap resorts, seeing a concert if it interests me, and walking down the strip to see whats new. But my time is limited nowadays so I'll go to Vegas once every 2 or 3 years.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=787197800298676&set=a.240352694983192
Las Vegas hotel occupancy dropped nearly 15% in June and another 17% in early July — the steepest decline among the top 25 U.S. tourism markets, according to new data from Smith Travel Research.
13.2% fewer international travelers visited Las Vegas in June compared to last year.
Hotel revenue per room (RevPAR) fell off a cliff, dropping nearly 29% to just just $102.75. Las Vegas hotels are earning significantly less per room than they were a year ago.
Their conventions are also down. So this adds to the occupancy. Plus the smart hotels are giving more room comps, which means less room revenue.
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Mostly Paul and Amy and Danny the Medic Food Vloggers in Vegas:
They explore all over the Vegas Valley, including the hole in the wall places that hardly any visitor (and even locals, lol) would be hesitant to venture into. A lot of these places has a camera at the entrance and you show your ID and then push a button to enter after the buzzer.
But the food, prices, and surprisingly the atmosphere inside is great! These places are in sketchy neighborhoods but the people inside are friendly and accommodating.
There still are reasonable places and good food to experience in Vegas but they are far from the tourist destinations.
So if you're the type that rents a car and likes to explore the Valley, Vegas might still be a fun place to visit.
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I forgot to mention that the occupancy being down also you have to remember that the Mirage and Tropicana have been demolished. So there are like 2,000 rooms missing that would have been available. So this makes it much worst than it appears.
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I forgot to mention that the occupancy being down also you have to remember that the Mirage and Tropicana have been demolished. So there are like 2,000 rooms missing that would have been available. So this makes it much worst than it appears.
I have to imagine much of the gambling side of revenue has been seeing more competition with online casinos, Indian Reservation Casinos, and casinos in other states. Watching some BJ groups going from casino to casino across the US, staying just long enough to get backed-off as "advantaged players", they spend months at casinos in dozens of states.
Vegas and Atlantic City are no longer the only gaming meccas. Been this way for a long time.
If you go to Caesar's hotels and resorts, they offer properties in:
Las Vegas
Atlantic City, NJ
Reno, NV
Arizona
California
Colorado
Florida
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Louisiana
Maryland
Mississippi
Missouri
Lake Tahoe, NV
Laughlin, NV
Nebraska
North Carolina
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia, and
International
https://www.caesars.com/destinations
This is just one corporation, and it doesn't even tough on the cruise lines that offer gambling onboard and some at ports of call.
So, the Vegas casinos are seeing competition from themselves. This is why Vegas needs bigger and better shows, events, conventions, etc. -- to attract vacationers and make it worth the trip to the Mojave Desert. You can only take the dam tour so many damn times! :geekdanc:
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I never did take that dam tour. And honestly don't really give a dam if I ever go to that dam dam.
Maybe next trip I should change my dam mind and go to that dam dam. It's a way of getting away from that dam craps table.
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I never did take that dam tour. And honestly don't really give a dam if I ever go to that dam dam.
Maybe next trip I should change my dam mind and go to that dam dam. It's a way of getting away from that dam craps table.
It's a very short drive, and there are things to see along the way as well as Lake Mead.
Vegas being in the desert means all those hotel rooms, homes, businesses, golf courses, and so on need a reliable source of water as well as electricity from somewhere.
Construction began in 1931, and the dam began operations in 1936. Lake Mead is in Boulder City, about 30 miles from Las Vegas. Boulder City grew out of the construction crew for the dam. Workers needed places to spend their money on food, lodging, necessities and entertainment.
The dam used to be the primary means of crossing the river, but a bypass was built which opened in 2010.
There are some amazing dam stories about the construction including some of the dam engineering and the dam people who built it. You can get a taste of some of that from online sources, but nothing beats actually seeing it and hearing all the dam stories. :thumbsup:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Dam
(https://i.imgur.com/IDYcYmv.jpeg)
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It's a very short drive, and there are things to see along the way as well as Lake Mead.
Vegas being in the desert means all those hotel rooms, homes, businesses, golf courses, and so on need a reliable source of water as well as electricity from somewhere.
Construction began in 1931, and the dam began operations in 1936. Lake Mead is in Boulder City, about 30 miles from Las Vegas. Boulder City grew out of the construction crew for the dam. Workers needed places to spend their money on food, lodging, necessities and entertainment.
The dam used to be the primary means of crossing the river, but a bypass was built which opened in 2010.
There are some amazing dam stories about the construction including some of the dam engineering and the dam people who built it. You can get a taste of some of that from online sources, but nothing beats actually seeing it and nearing all the dam stories. :thumbsup:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_Dam
(https://i.imgur.com/IDYcYmv.jpeg)
About a generation ago, the casinos had the foresight to see what happens if the water level ever falls a lot. So they built a 2nd intake pipe well below the original one. Today that pipe is being used.
I wonder if the casinos would invest in a 3rd pipe or the state would start to work on 1? Or some other option in case the water falls even lower. Back then it was all mom n pop owned casinos. Now they're all hedge funds and corporations, so spending millions to install a pipe wouldn't be their first choice.
But fear not, in general, there is lots of water as the lake is 26 miles across it's furthest point.
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Sahara is offering no resort fee until end of Aug. Too bad they're very "off strip".
Google maps said the walk from Palazzo to Sahara is 20 mins. It took us 45 mins in the afternoon and non F1 traffic. Mrs. CMO wasn't happy.
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Seems like 2 out of 3 videos out there is focused on Vegas diminishing visitor and profit numbers and how Vegas as a once popular world destination is dying.
;D ;D ;D
To the greedy corporate bean counters and executives eager to please their shareholders:
What goes around, comes around, maddah fackahs. :wave: :rofl: ;D
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My bird's eye view of the situation is that Vegas and Atlantic City shared monopolies on the Eastern & Western regions of the US for legalized gambling.
Now that they no longer have that distinction, they need to reinvent themselves. Yeah, the cheap food, free drinks and comped rooms and shows still help, but people can get that elsewhere now.
Until they create new, better niches, trying to squeeze tourists for every nickel and dime is just going to keep them afloat a little longer.
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Even though Vegas is changing, and for me it's for the worse, I need to change also.
I need to change how I visit Vegas. Because as much as I grumble and lament for the Vegas of old, I know it will never come back.
But I still like to go, albeit not as much as I used to.
Here are the things I'm thinking of changing on how I do Vegas:
Stay at a Property that has a lot of amenities: Dining, entertainment, shopping, and gambling. Red Rock Casino and Green Valley Resort comes to mind.
Play less live craps and more of those machine bubble craps. Last trip I've become irritated at the availability of live tables (mgt. refuses to open more tables) and the players with under-funded bankrolls taking up space and not really placing bets.
Play more Video Poker, although after a while this game bores me.
Try Video Keno.
Include some destination type restaurants for dining. We usually just eat at buffets, cafes, or food courts. We should add a nice Italian or American Steakhouse in the mix.
See a show or two. We used to watch shows but lately the shows on the Strip are not interesting for us as we are older and don't even recognize any of the performers.
But the Off-Strip properties have shows of has-been performers and groups with ticket prices less than astronomical prices. Those should be fun to watch as these has-beens re-live their glory days.
Rent a car for a day or two. This one I'm still struggling with. I hate to drive. More so in Vegas. But having a car can enhance your visit. I still like to visit places like Sam's Town on the Boulder Hwy. and the Orleans. Also wanted to visit the Durango, a small new casino owned by Stations.
Or maybe do all of the above but at Downtown. The Plaza has some old-fart shows and I think Four Queens and The D also has some shows. Instead of camping out at the craps table like I usually do we can visit other casinos. El Cortez is re-vamping some of their casino areas and maybe we can stay at the Downtown Grand. I see on YouTube they got some great deals.
We'll see. All of this is moot if wife and I can't get away from watching the grandkids.....
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Even though Vegas is changing, and for me it's for the worse, I need to change also.
I need to change how I visit Vegas. Because as much as I grumble and lament for the Vegas of old, I know it will never come back.
But I still like to go, albeit not as much as I used to.
Here are the things I'm thinking of changing on how I do Vegas:
Stay at a Property that has a lot of amenities: Dining, entertainment, shopping, and gambling. Red Rock Casino and Green Valley Resort comes to mind.
Play less live craps and more of those machine bubble craps. Last trip I've become irritated at the availability of live tables (mgt. refuses to open more tables) and the players with under-funded bankrolls taking up space and not really placing bets.
Play more Video Poker, although after a while this game bores me.
Try Video Keno.
Include some destination type restaurants for dining. We usually just eat at buffets, cafes, or food courts. We should add a nice Italian or American Steakhouse in the mix.
See a show or two. We used to watch shows but lately the shows on the Strip are not interesting for us as we are older and don't even recognize any of the performers.
But the Off-Strip properties have shows of has-been performers and groups with ticket prices less than astronomical prices. Those should be fun to watch as these has-beens re-live their glory days.
Rent a car for a day or two. This one I'm still struggling with. I hate to drive. More so in Vegas. But having a car can enhance your visit. I still like to visit places like Sam's Town on the Boulder Hwy. and the Orleans. Also wanted to visit the Durango, a small new casino owned by Stations.
Or maybe do all of the above but at Downtown. The Plaza has some old-fart shows and I think Four Queens and The D also has some shows. Instead of camping out at the craps table like I usually do we can visit other casinos. El Cortez is re-vamping some of their casino areas and maybe we can stay at the Downtown Grand. I see on YouTube they got some great deals.
We'll see. All of this is moot if wife and I can't get away from watching the grandkids.....
The last part is funny. We only go when my parents can babysit our daughter since you cannot gamble with a toddler next to you. So I gotta broker a deal for us to go. Same goes with range days.
We just got a MGM credit card. What this allows is automatic pearl status and it's main benefit is free pakring at all MGM properties. We always rent a car and sometimes go a day or 2 without even using it. It's nice to have as we do go off strip a lot and now with the MGM card, we don't have to walk from Palazzo to Cosmo anymore. But during F1, it would be better to walk.
We enjoy the strip as it's a vacation. RR and GVR are nice but it's main downside is there's no other casino in walking distance. So if the tables are cold, then you have no other optios. Also, the on property is OK. But on the strip, you can just walk next door to get diff food.
We enjoy Palazzo/Venetian. They have $15 tables during the day, but at night it's hit or miss at $25. I haven't been to GVR at night for a while, what are their table mins?
On property has lots of good dining:
Tao
Spicy tuna on crispy rice
Black garlic butter steak
Lobster wonton w/mushroom broth are our favs.
Chipotle at the food court
A new food hall
Sushi Samba has many good dishes.
Also, they're generous on room comps.
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In Sept, Wynn is no longer allowing employees to wear mask, unless they have a doctors note. So returning back to "old Vegas" 1 policy at a time.
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Something interesting has been happening. Many videos show that Vegas isnt' as busy people wise like how it was before the price increases or precovid. But the casino corporations say that they're doing fine. This is based of their numbers that are within the margin of less revenue. But yet, they're laying workers off.
Another sign that shows the casinos are out of touch with the people is that they are doing summer specials now. The no resort fees, all inclusive packages, etc...They needed to do this way in advance as people already booked and planned their summer vacations 6 months in advance. So they're marketing to those who didn't have any summer plans, thus limited their market once again.
With F1 construction starting again in October, they are still behind in executing any plans to bring people in. The Vegas tourism authority is spending millions on marketing. IMO, this is a scam, people aren't coming because the lack of knowledge that Vegas exist, but the high prices. So they have to work with all the casinos to limit/reduce prices.
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Something interesting has been happening. Many videos show that Vegas isnt' as busy people wise like how it was before the price increases or precovid. But the casino corporations say that they're doing fine. This is based of their numbers that are within the margin of less revenue. But yet, they're laying workers off.
That is interesting. I wouldn't know squat as to how to run businesses but I guess like you said the numbers they crunched are working.
I do know employees are a business's highest expense. I did notice more robot things in the restaurants, lol!
And I definitely know those asshats don't open more table games, even though it's obvious there are many patrons waiting to play. Last trip there were so many people wanting to play craps but mgt. didn't open more tables. The worst was NYE and the casino was packed but they still only had only one table open.
I think it's really chicken sh*t when patrons travel to Vegas in hopes of enjoying their vacation and they can't do what they went there for. Whether it is playing in their favorite casino or eating out at restaurants that were once 24/7 but now open only on certain days or hours.
Maybe catering only to the affluent and elite is the way to go. I guess it keeps out the ghetto people and leaves the mid-tier people with nowhere to go. :grrr:
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A layoff is just one way a business -- any kind of business -- shows they are serious about cutting costs in order to maintain their profit margin. That helps attract and keep investors.
In March, Amazon announced they were laying off 14,000 managers as a cost-savings move. They kept almost 92,000 managers, so I'm sure they are fine. There stock price was on a downward trend Jan-Apr, then before may, it reversed and is almost back where it peaked in early Feb. Cuts in management were just one category of cost savings. I guess investors like that.
If you piece together what's happening around the country with the casino/hotels cutting staff, one has to wonder if they can no longer hire a largely Hispanic workforce? Are the workers afraid to show up? Is the business trying to avoid penalties for employing so many undocumented workers? just curious if this factors in at all. If it were my decision, I'd be careful not to waste company funds on legal fees and fines just to cheap out on labor cost by hiring illegals.
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That is interesting. I wouldn't know squat as to how to run businesses but I guess like you said the numbers they crunched are working.
I do know employees are a business's highest expense. I did notice more robot things in the restaurants, lol!
And I definitely know those asshats don't open more table games, even though it's obvious there are many patrons waiting to play. Last trip there were so many people wanting to play craps but mgt. didn't open more tables. The worst was NYE and the casino was packed but they still only had only one table open.
I think it's really chicken sh*t when patrons travel to Vegas in hopes of enjoying their vacation and they can't do what they went there for. Whether it is playing in their favorite casino or eating out at restaurants that were once 24/7 but now open only on certain days or hours.
Maybe catering only to the affluent and elite is the way to go. I guess it keeps out the ghetto people and leaves the mid-tier people with nowhere to go. :grrr:
Casino business has multiple revenue sides. Gaming, rooms, retail, food, etc...So the numbers I mention reflects gaming only.
I talked to some bartenders at hot clubs and tips precovid would be like $700 a night on average. $400 for a slow night. Today, it's like $45 avg. PRecovid, all tables were sold out, those tables that cost $40K to use. Now, they cannot give them away and many still sit empty. And the ones that are comp'd, the people don't tip based of the $40K cost of the table. So the waitresses hate when they have to service a comp'd table to a non-high roller.
Tao Group who was 1 big corp for clubs/bars laid off a lot of people a few months ago.
So the gaming side makes good money, all other areas not so much. Re-read my F1 and tips and how only the high end gaming casinos made money. All else didn't make squat.
Saw a vid on DanVsWorld and he was on Fremont st at 5pm on a Saturday and it was empty. Usually it's shoulder to shoulder of people. Even he said Vegas is dead. This was end of July.
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If you piece together what's happening around the country with the casino/hotels cutting staff, one has to wonder if they can no longer hire a largely Hispanic workforce? Are the workers afraid to show up? Is the business trying to avoid penalties for employing so many undocumented workers? just curious if this factors in at all. If it were my decision, I'd be careful not to waste company funds on legal fees and fines just to cheap out on labor cost by hiring illegals.
I haven't looked in to this, but a few people have said that instead of coming to Vegas to gamble, people are playing at their local casino's instead. I'm not gonna compare gaming revenue from 2024 to now for this. But it would show they're correct if revenue did increase by a lot % wise from 2024.
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I wonder how Hawaii's people would affect Vegas numbers if we had legalized gambling in Hawaii.
I know they would kill the Boyd properties Downtown.
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I wonder how Hawaii's people would affect Vegas numbers if we had legalized gambling in Hawaii.
I know they would kill the Boyd properties Downtown.
All the trips i've been since covid, I have noticed downtown has way less HI people. In 2021 & 2022, I was the only person at the craps table at Fremont. I've never seen no one playing craps at Fremont before. Time of day doesn't matter.
Then I thought about it, it was often the retiree's/grandparents who would go often and I wondered if they're still alive as the old are more high risk once catching covid. I haven't seen those grandpa craps players who had a chair and stacks of green chips in their rack for a very long time.
So we can imagine this x50 if HI had a casino.
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In the 90's, 50% of Vegas tourist came for gambling. And about 90% of tourist gambled in some way. The casinos revenue, 75% came from gaming.
In 2024, 7% of tourist came for gambling. 78% gambled in some way. 40% of revenue came from gaming.
I was thinking about how I don't see as many people walking the strip anymore. I theorized that maybe higher end players don't walk. Which would make sense as the outfits people wear you see while walking the strip are very different from the ones higher limit gamblers are wearing in the casino.
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Despite casino's claiming just a slight loss every month and don't worry, lots of people being laid off from dealers to wait staff. I can imagine lower end casinos like Excalibur are losing much more every month.
Then there are those who are blaming Trump due to less international people coming. That is 1 market that has gone down, but they're leaving out the outrageous pricing and fees. I'll bet that these people often don't keep up with what's happenign in Vegas and just read the fake news headlines.
F1 is coming up soon so expect less to go in Oct and December.
Interesting 2A note, NV passed a law a few years ago that any firearm transfer had to go through a FFL, excluding immediate family members. So if you want to have a friend hold a firearm while you're moving, they have to go through a FFL. Even if the gun will remain in a locked case that your friend doesn't have the key to. Some could argue that this isn't a "transfer", but if the gun were to be stolen and used in a active shooting, you can bet the NV AG will come down hard on you.
So any military members leaving for training for a few weeks/months cannot have a friend watch over their guns either, unless a FFL background check is used. Then when you reclaim your guns, another FFL background check has to be done on you so you can reclaim possession.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyLL9hbK3CQ
You don't need to watch the video. But try reading the comments below the video. Seems like they are all blaming Trump because of the tariffs and global squabbling that soured relations.
Seems like most of the commenters are sad because there are no bidens, kamalas, or tim walz's in their lives.
Vegas is dying because of greed. Fix it and they will come.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyLL9hbK3CQ
You don't need to watch the video. But try reading the comments below the video. Seems like they are all blaming Trump because of the tariffs and global squabbling that soured relations.
Seems like most of the commenters are sad because there are no bidens, kamalas, or tim walz's in their lives.
Vegas is dying because of greed. Fix it and they will come.
I know some who are Canadians and their government put a travel alert to the US. Travel alerts are for stuff like terrorism, natural disasters, war, etc...They're not for 1 cuck disagreeing with Trump.
The Canadians are being used as pawns. IDK if other countries have done the same.
Then there are a few who are afraid of being arrested by ICE. Again, a fake news fear spread. If you're here legally on vacation, then you have nothing to worry about.
But anyway, this is another market that Vegas has lost. So lets tally:
Chinese market
Lower income market
Middle income market
Retiree market
International market
Convention market
All but the international market are the Casino's faults.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chgak05rI40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chgak05rI40
I like watching this guys video content. Only because he has that uncanny ability to tune out everything and everybody while doing his content.
Half the fun is watching people watching him while he is oblivious to their stares.
The best is when he is talking while going down the escalator and the lady behind him steps forward to the step right behind him, as if trying to get him to hurry up and walk down the moving escalator.
Yet he stands there and goes yada yada yada, while she can literally suck wind. :rofl:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chgak05rI40
He had some decent vids, but his last few were "what ifs". I think hes running out of new content.
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https://beatofhawaii.com/las-vegas-hotels-bet-wrong-hawaii-still-packed/
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https://beatofhawaii.com/las-vegas-hotels-bet-wrong-hawaii-still-packed/
My thoughts.
I think people have been spoiled on how Vegas always took care of them. Free parking, no resort fees, easy to get free meals, etc...Then 1 by 1, the casinos removed the perks of gambling there. Compare this to HI that doesn't' have any of the above. My friend was at the Hilton and paid $70/day for parking recently.
So people aren't' inclined to not come to HI due to the additional fees. But it shows, instead of going to Vegas, maybe all the fees added up and they rather come to HI to enjoy the beach and nature. Most states have a casino, so they can just gamble at their home casino. So Vegas gambling isn't anything special. Only HI and UT have zero casinos and zero forms of gambling (lotto, bingo, etc...).
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I wonder how many first time tourists are disappointed with Waikiki. In my opinion that place is filthy, ugly, and a 100% tourist rip-off trap.
Other tourist destinations on Oahu are not far behind.
Vegas is ugly too, in my opinion. I go because of gambling, buffets, graveyard specials, 24 hr. cafes, and at one time, for the shows.
All of the things I mentioned above are under attack; soon to be history, overpriced, and no longer enjoyable.
With that being said, I have a trip in the books for the end of the year. I will do my best to be fair and objective to see if I would deem it worthwhile to return for future trips.
Since retiring, at one time I had the option to go anywhere anytime I wanted. Now with grandkid babysitting, I'm down to one window of opportunity a year.
If Vegas disappoints then it's off to another place. Japan, Korea, and Okinawa interests me.
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I wonder how many first time tourists are disappointed with Waikiki. In my opinion that place is filthy, ugly, and a 100% tourist rip-off trap.
Other tourist destinations on Oahu are not far behind.
Vegas is ugly too, in my opinion. I go because of gambling, buffets, graveyard specials, 24 hr. cafes, and at one time, for the shows.
All of the things I mentioned above are under attack; soon to be history, overpriced, and no longer enjoyable.
With that being said, I have a trip in the books for the end of the year. I will do my best to be fair and objective to see if I would deem it worthwhile to return for future trips.
Since retiring, at one time I had the option to go anywhere anytime I wanted. Now with grandkid babysitting, I'm down to one window of opportunity a year.
If Vegas disappoints then it's off to another place. Japan, Korea, and Okinawa interests me.
Yep. I tell new Vegas visitors to arrive after dark on their first day if possible. The magic is totally destroyed in the daytime.
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I wonder how many first time tourists are disappointed with Waikiki. In my opinion that place is filthy, ugly, and a 100% tourist rip-off trap.
Other tourist destinations on Oahu are not far behind.
Vegas is ugly too, in my opinion. I go because of gambling, buffets, graveyard specials, 24 hr. cafes, and at one time, for the shows.
All of the things I mentioned above are under attack; soon to be history, overpriced, and no longer enjoyable.
With that being said, I have a trip in the books for the end of the year. I will do my best to be fair and objective to see if I would deem it worthwhile to return for future trips.
Since retiring, at one time I had the option to go anywhere anytime I wanted. Now with grandkid babysitting, I'm down to one window of opportunity a year.
If Vegas disappoints then it's off to another place. Japan, Korea, and Okinawa interests me.
My neigbor was a travel agent and told me that people come here cause they don't need a passport. There are nicer beaches in Tahiti and like places, but you need a passport. Hawaii is the only place in the US with nice beaches like we have for a "tropical getaway". The same goes with conferences and corporations rewarding employees with a trip.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWiG0IfRvUY
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This is the perfect opportunity to take advantage of the Vegas situation - legalize gambling in Hawaii. Of course, our political cronies are still in the diminishing bags of Vegas lobbyists. I hope that they see the bag will eventually disappear.
Or perhaps those Vegas casinos will make a push to move here....
I wonder if there are as many illegal gambling busts/raids in the neighbor islands as there are on Oahu. I don't read often about illegal gambling busts on neighbor islands.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuadBylKBQc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8ZzhzMknSA
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On the various FB groups that I'm in about Vegas, there are more and more people posting pics of an empty Vegas. But some are getting caught as the timing was during a slow time like at 2am in front the Wynn or in front Resorts World street entrance, which has always had little to no foot traffic (by Mischos Tacos).
So in all, I will make this statement based on my XP of going a a few times a year for many years. Vegas is much slower than it used to be precovid. At any time and day of the week, the strip would be shoulder to shoulder of people walking. Pecovid, restaurants/casinos never fired staff as often as they're doing now. Casinos haven't replaced table games with electronic dealers, nor have I seen no craps table open at various casinos, Fremont Casino with only 1 person playing craps, etc...
So unless you've gone precovid, you have no idea what Vegas used to be like, which is what it seems like the people posting these "empty" pics are 1st timers or only gone post covid.
Vegas isn't what it used to be and we need to adjust to what the "new normal" is. Old Vegas is dead and won't come back.
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I remember my wife and I on one trip was riding the monorail and that thing snakes through the properties as it makes it's way up and down the strip.
This was a summertime trip and when the monorail passed the pools of the Flamingo you can see what seems like millions of day partiers, standing, dancing, and peeing shoulder to shoulder in the pools. Millions others on lounge chairs, at poolside bars, and in cabanas. The pool scenes were vibrant, the music pumping, the crowds all red faced, drunk, with shit-grins, the pool water turning a mysterious greenish hue....... :rofl:
Anyway, what I'm getting at is these people are the mid-tier type of visitors. The so-called bread and butter revenue source that would keep the lights on, the AC running, and the pool scene profitable.
If the bean counters truly crunched the numbers and claim they can rely on the 10% or less that are considered "Whales", without the mid tier visitors, it seems like a large portion of the revenue the whales bring will now have to go to upkeep those pools, slot machines, and empty food halls that most likely will be ghost towns now.
I've said it many times before. I don't understand how this can be sustainable but I'm not the expert. Hotels laying off employees, restaurants laying off workers, dealers with no jobs, etc. will equal no ability to keep house mortgage payments, pay for food, medical, transportation.
People will start migrating to where there are jobs. Laughlin? Reno? Out of state?
This could snowball even into the local casino business. A lot of the locals that patronize local casinos are employees of the Strip and Downtown properties. No job. No patronage. Bye bye local casinos.
Lets face it. The majority of people working in Las Vegas work in the hospitality industry. If not that the construction industry that services that sector. Weaken the foundation of these two contributors to the Vegas economy and you can see a collapse and a mass exodus from a once vibrant and thriving city.
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I've said it many times before. I don't understand how this can be sustainable but I'm not the expert. Hotels laying off employees, restaurants laying off workers, dealers with no jobs, etc. will equal no ability to keep house mortgage payments, pay for food, medical, transportation.
People will start migrating to where there are jobs. Laughlin? Reno? Out of state?
This could snowball even into the local casino business. A lot of the locals that patronize local casinos are employees of the Strip and Downtown properties. No job. No patronage. Bye bye local casinos.
Lets face it. The majority of people working in Las Vegas work in the hospitality industry. If not that the construction industry that services that sector. Weaken the foundation of these two contributors to the Vegas economy and you can see a collapse and a mass exodus from a once vibrant and thriving city.
There's another aspect that isn't talked about very often. These numbers are from 2021, but they seem to be inline with previous years I've read about.
The Nevada Constitution prohibits levying of personal income tax.
General sales tax is the second biggest pot of money for states, making up 32.2% of state revenue on average.
Nevada is ranked fifth in reliance on general sales tax. General sales tax made up 58% of tax revenue in 2019.
Nevada ranked eighth on its reliance on selective sales tax, which includes the live entertainment tax and insurance premiums tax. Selective sales tax made up 22.4% of Nevada’s tax revenue in fiscal year 2020.
Only 3.7% of Nevada’s overall tax revenue stems from property tax. That’s above the national average of 1.8%.
Nevada is one of five states that does not have a corporate income tax. (Ohio, Texas, Washington and Wyoming are the other four.) Corporate income tax ranged from 0.6% of a state’s revenue (in Hawaii) to 27.3% in New Hampshire.
In other words, all the money needed to build and maintain roads, provide emergency services, and all the other things the state provides most take for granted will see a decline in funding as the economy and visitor numbers there worsen,
When 58% of revenue coming from general sales taxes drop to lower levels, you'll see property and other tax rates go up to make up for the shortfall.
In 2023, Nevada casinos contributed $59.6 billion to the state’s economy, supported more than 330,000 jobs and generated $8 billion in tax revenue. That tax revenue is what pays for most of the schools and other services in NV. Without a personal income tax, the businesses have to kick in more. So, when that resort fee and parking fee hits your wallet, remember the casinos have to pay tax on all of that in order to keep government-funded services alive.
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I remember my wife and I on one trip was riding the monorail and that thing snakes through the properties as it makes it's way up and down the strip.
This was a summertime trip and when the monorail passed the pools of the Flamingo you can see what seems like millions of day partiers, standing, dancing, and peeing shoulder to shoulder in the pools. Millions others on lounge chairs, at poolside bars, and in cabanas. The pool scenes were vibrant, the music pumping, the crowds all red faced, drunk, with shit-grins, the pool water turning a mysterious greenish hue....... :rofl:
Anyway, what I'm getting at is these people are the mid-tier type of visitors. The so-called bread and butter revenue source that would keep the lights on, the AC running, and the pool scene profitable.
If the bean counters truly crunched the numbers and claim they can rely on the 10% or less that are considered "Whales", without the mid tier visitors, it seems like a large portion of the revenue the whales bring will now have to go to upkeep those pools, slot machines, and empty food halls that most likely will be ghost towns now.
I've said it many times before. I don't understand how this can be sustainable but I'm not the expert. Hotels laying off employees, restaurants laying off workers, dealers with no jobs, etc. will equal no ability to keep house mortgage payments, pay for food, medical, transportation.
People will start migrating to where there are jobs. Laughlin? Reno? Out of state?
This could snowball even into the local casino business. A lot of the locals that patronize local casinos are employees of the Strip and Downtown properties. No job. No patronage. Bye bye local casinos.
Lets face it. The majority of people working in Las Vegas work in the hospitality industry. If not that the construction industry that services that sector. Weaken the foundation of these two contributors to the Vegas economy and you can see a collapse and a mass exodus from a once vibrant and thriving city.
My sister in law used to work for a happening club that turns into a pool party in the summer. Precovid tips were $700 on average. Post covid $45. Precovid, they would sell out of the $40,000 tables everytime. Post covid, they didn't and some nights zero. So they had to give the tables away.
The issue with giving the tables away, these people dont' tip based off the price of the $40K table. So they tip much less.
Table prices have been reduced a lot from $40,000 to about $4,000. This is for Omnia at Caesers. I had a friend go who hasnt' been since precovid last week. He was shocked it was so cheap, so they bought 2 tables.
Lots of people in the industry being laid off. Treasure Island is expected to lay off more in about a week (rumor).
I heard an intersting story. Since the casinos are almost all hedge fund, corporate type running them. They used tech guys to see how to maximize profit. And these guys who many haven't been to Vegas don't understand how to treat people. They're just math focused. Which would explain why the hospitality has gone down big time in Vegas.
Whales lose a lot gaming and don't spend much at all the other things. Which is why everything is down. Restaurants, casual eats, activities, etc...
Since Vegas is tourism dependant, the employees need to ride out the low times. Many won't change industry. The new fad is once the bottle girls age out, they get into real estate. Years ago it was esthetician industry. These are the ones who didn't find their rich husbands while they were a bottle girl.
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Palazzo/Venetian let go 50 employees today. There was no chatter about this prior to. From what I've seen compared to other casinos, their gaming floor is 1 of the busiest. They cater to middle income and above. $15 tables in the day is automatic. $15 at night is more often than not. ANd for a higher end place, this is very rare. It's been like this since precovid, so they havent' changed at all their table min bets in over a decade.
What I have seen though is the let it ride table isn't open as often as it used to be. But you can always walk next door to Harrahs as they have it open all the time. We were there on Memorial Day weekend and they had $5 LIR on the Sunday prior to.
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Palazzo/Venetian let go 50 employees today. There was no chatter about this prior to. From what I've seen compared to other casinos, their gaming floor is 1 of the busiest. They cater to middle income and above. $15 tables in the day is automatic. $15 at night is more often than not. ANd for a higher end place, this is very rare. It's been like this since precovid, so they havent' changed at all their table min bets in over a decade.
What I have seen though is the let it ride table isn't open as often as it used to be. But you can always walk next door to Harrahs as they have it open all the time. We were there on Memorial Day weekend and they had $5 LIR on the Sunday prior to.
You'd have to drill down before drawing any conclusions.
How many, if any, of the 50 fired worked in casino operations? How many from management? Housekeeping? Maintenance? Restaurants? So many jobs that keep a casino/hotel operating.
Given the current ICE environment, it's also reasonable to wonder how many of the 50 were "undocumented." Laws prohibiting the hiring of illegals could be receiving stricter enforcement now than in previous years. Letting the obvious illegals go might be a preemptive move against heavy fines and other penalties.
Of course, the casino isn't about to confess to hiring, and then firing, 50 illegals they knew were not supposed to be in the US. So, we may never know.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eozCMhgMOY
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You'd have to drill down before drawing any conclusions.
How many, if any, of the 50 fired worked in casino operations? How many from management? Housekeeping? Maintenance? Restaurants? So many jobs that keep a casino/hotel operating.
Given the current ICE environment, it's also reasonable to wonder how many of the 50 were "undocumented." Laws prohibiting the hiring of illegals could be receiving stricter enforcement now than in previous years. Letting the obvious illegals go might be a preemptive move against heavy fines and other penalties.
Of course, the casino isn't about to confess to hiring, and then firing, 50 illegals they knew were not supposed to be in the US. So, we may never know.
Def not any restaurants are they're all independently owned.
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Def not any restaurants are they're all independently owned.
I'm not sure why the ownership status is relevant.
Do you have the position titles/descriptions for the 50 employees who were let go?
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I'm not sure why the ownership status is relevant.
Do you have the position titles/descriptions for the 50 employees who were let go?
The restaurants do not fall under casino staffing. The exceptions would be certain bars like the circle bar at Venetian. Basically casino name tag and uniform. Tao in the Venetian let a bunch go months ago and it stated "Tao laid off workers". But it was really "Tao Group" as they laid people off not only at the restaurant and day club in the Venetian, but other locations as well.
More info is that it's mostly upper management. My friend works casino credit and that entire department is safe so far.
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The restaurants do not fall under casino staffing. The exceptions would be certain bars like the circle bar at Venetian. Basically casino name tag and uniform. Tao in the Venetian let a bunch go months ago and it stated "Tao laid off workers". But it was really "Tao Group" as they laid people off not only at the restaurant and day club in the Venetian, but other locations as well.
More info is that it's mostly upper management. My friend works casino credit and that entire department is safe so far.
Yeah, I suspected management for the most part was in the 50 fired. That's a very small number when talking "downsizing" which normally involves a large percentage of employees across the board in an attempt to boost profits and/or stock prices.
Another thing to factor in -- the Sands sold the Venetian to Apollo Global Management and VICI properties in 2022. VICI Properties: Owns the real estate assets ($4 billion), and Apollo Global Management: Manages operations and gaming ($2.25 billion). This encompasses The Venetian Resort, The Palazzo Tower, The Venetian Expo & Convention Center, and the MSG Sphere (partnership).
Since the acquisition, the new owners began room renovations, restaurant concept updates, gaming floor modernizations, and sustainability innovations.
https://www.nyse.com/quote/XNYS:APO
https://www.nyse.com/quote/XNYS:VICI
Anyway, the Venetian continues to undergo changes that began after 2022. So, I'm reluctant to tie the firing of 50 employees to any one cause such as a decline in revenue. These things are bound to happen after a change of ownership where operational jobs might be merged under the new owner's existing personnel.
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The NV state system has been down for 19 days now. NV gun sales do their checks through NICS, but it's done by the state. Since the state is offline, no NICS checks can be done.
They do not have a permit to acquire or registration like HI does, but do NICS by the state. They passed a law a few years ago that all gun transfers need to be done by a FFL. Which means the NICS check. The exception is if transferred to immediate family. So if this had happened 5 years ago, then it wouldn't affect private gun sales at least. IDK when the state NICS check was adopted for FFL sales.
There is a clause in their law if after 3 days of no reply, you can sell the gun. But if the check comes back negative, then it's on the FFL to get the gun back. Which is why no FFL's are taking the risk right now and selling.
You also cannot renew your CCW, drivers license, etc...
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The NV state system has been down for 19 days now. NV gun sales do their checks through NICS, but it's done by the state. Since the state is offline, no NICS checks can be done.
They do not have a permit to acquire or registration like HI does, but do NICS by the state. They passed a law a few years ago that all gun transfers need to be done by a FFL. Which means the NICS check. The exception is if transferred to immediate family. So if this had happened 5 years ago, then it wouldn't affect private gun sales at least. IDK when the state NICS check was adopted for FFL sales.
There is a clause in their law if after 3 days of no reply, you can sell the gun. But if the check comes back negative, then it's on the FFL to get the gun back. Which is why no FFL's are taking the risk right now and selling.
You also cannot renew your CCW, drivers license, etc...
You left out the most important point -- the cause of the system outage.
The state computers have been infected with ransom-ware. They have been trying to recover from it, but so far it's not done.
This tells me (1) they refuse to pay the ransom, and (2) their backup and recovery plan for critical servers is severely lacking.
All it takes is one employee clicking a link or opening and email attachment while using the system.
There needs to be some IT people replaced with someone who didn't get the job through DEI.
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Tim Lee the food vlogger was in or still is in Vegas and he was at the Excaliber Food Court or Hall or whatever they call those places nowadays.
He was complaining about being charged $40 for a FRICKEN FAT BURGER.
Fat Burger. A Burger Chain restaurant known for the usual mediocre run-of-the-mill burger.
With that being said Vegas Food Vloggers are finding pretty good food deals off the Strip but you need a car to explore the outer reaches of the valley.
Places like Ellis Island and the Red Rock Casino have a $5.99 Burger and Fries special available 24/7.
$40 for a Fat Burger on the Strip? That's f*ckn criminal.
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Oyo laid off most of their table dealers. New table hours, tables are closed from 3am-11am. Hooters also closed down about a month ago too.
This casino was known for their $1 blackjack. But it's a shithole. Most of the time the elevators aren't working and they don't tell their guest. So you're on the 4th floor waiting for 10 minutes and finally decide to take the stairs. Which leads you to the back of the hotel.
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Tim Lee the food vlogger was in or still is in Vegas and he was at the Excaliber Food Court or Hall or whatever they call those places nowadays.
He was complaining about being charged $40 for a FRICKEN FAT BURGER.
Fat Burger. A Burger Chain restaurant known for the usual mediocre run-of-the-mill burger.
With that being said Vegas Food Vloggers are finding pretty good food deals off the Strip but you need a car to explore the outer reaches of the valley.
Places like Ellis Island and the Red Rock Casino have a $5.99 Burger and Fries special available 24/7.
$40 for a Fat Burger on the Strip? That's f*ckn criminal.
There are many places that serve the combo for much less. Grand Lux has a combo that doesn't cost $40 (Palazzo/Venetians 24/7 type cafe). Only a moron would spend $40 for their cheap fastfood type burger.
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There are many places that serve the combo for much less. Grand Lux has a combo that doesn't cost $40 (Palazzo/Venetians 24/7 type cafe). Only a moron would spend $40 for their cheap fastfood type burger.
I guess Tim Lee is one. Or he did it on purpose for clicks and views to advance his channel. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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There are many places that serve the combo for much less. Grand Lux has a combo that doesn't cost $40 (Palazzo/Venetians 24/7 type cafe). Only a moron would spend $40 for their cheap fastfood type burger.
Not a Vegas comment, but burgers in general.
There are niche burger places that command a higher price based on quality, variety and, yes, value. Not everyone wants a Big Mac every time they eat out.
I loved going to Fuddruckers. They offered various sizes of burger using fresh meat (butchered and ground onsite). You get your order in line that comes with the plain burger on a bun (cooked to order) and whatever sides you ordered. You carry the plate to a large "fixin's bar" and build your burger exactly how you like with all the cheese, veggies, condiments and extras (jalepenos ...). If you want, you can go back and add more toppings to the same burger or make two halves with different toppings to share. The 1/2 lb burger alone was about $10, then add for fries, onion rings, etc. and your drink -- including bottled beer. The burger meal can easily top $20 per person.
I was in heaven when Fuddruckers added the Taco Salad to the menu! You got a salad bowl made of fried tortilla (similar to Taco Bell before they changed) filled halfway to the top with seasoned beef (using their fresh hamburger meat), and as many trips to the fixin's bar as you liked. Anything you normally get on a taco salad was on that bar. I used to pile on the ingredients, eat all that with about half the meat, then pile on a second helping of toppings to make another salad basically. The price was about the same as their 1/3 lb burger.
These prices were in the 1985-1989 period.
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My ex liked to go to Hamburger Hamlet in Bethesda, MD, when she lived there. I went with her when I visited a few times. The quality of the ingredients and cooking were unmatched. And the menu was more for the "advanced" burger lover. I liked the mushroom & Swiss cheese burger with steak fries. My ex got the bleu cheese burger. The bill was easily $40 each when you figure the sides were all ala carte, and the drinks were restaurant-priced for max profit. The atmosphere was very much similar to a high end steak house with a large bar for singles to order food or for your normal crowd out for a few drinks. These prices were from before 1985.
Hamburger Hamlet in LA
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Golden Gate delt their last hand the other night. CEO claims that when they installed digital BJ, craps, etc...those had more "action" on them than the tables. The new generation likes the machines instead of tables is what he said.
It's interesting because I didn't know the new gen that he's marketing toward stays at GG. I see more of them on the strip and when we do go to downtown, it's like people in their mid 30's and not their 20's.
All dealers are being moved to Circa.
Fun fact, GG was the 1st casino in Vegas. Hence their address of 1 Freemont Street.
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Not a Vegas comment, but burgers in general.
There are niche burger places that command a higher price based on quality, variety and, yes, value. Not everyone wants a Big Mac every time they eat out.
I loved going to Fuddruckers. They offered various sizes of burger using fresh meat (butchered and ground onsite). You get your order in line that comes with the plain burger on a bun (cooked to order) and whatever sides you ordered. You carry the plate to a large "fixin's bar" and build your burger exactly how you like with all the cheese, veggies, condiments and extras (jalepenos ...). If you want, you can go back and add more toppings to the same burger or make two halves with different toppings to share. The 1/2 lb burger alone was about $10, then add for fries, onion rings, etc. and your drink -- including bottled beer. The burger meal can easily top $20 per person.
I was in heaven when Fuddruckers added the Taco Salad to the menu! You got a salad bowl made of fried tortilla (similar to Taco Bell before they changed) filled halfway to the top with seasoned beef (using their fresh hamburger meat), and as many trips to the fixin's bar as you liked. Anything you normally get on a taco salad was on that bar. I used to pile on the ingredients, eat all that with about half the meat, then pile on a second helping of toppings to make another salad basically. The price was about the same as their 1/3 lb burger.
These prices were in the 1985-1989 period.
(https://i.imgur.com/SRMqxqZ.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/JuLpsPU.png)
My ex liked to go to Hamburger Hamlet in Bethesda, MD, when she lived there. I went with her when I visited a few times. The quality of the ingredients and cooking were unmatched. And the menu was more for the "advanced" burger lover. I liked the mushroom & Swiss cheese burger with steak fries. My ex got the bleu cheese burger. The bill was easily $40 each when you figure the sides were all ala carte, and the drinks were restaurant-priced for max profit. The atmosphere was very much similar to a high end steak house with a large bar for singles to order food or for your normal crowd out for a few drinks. These prices were from before 1985.
Hamburger Hamlet in LA
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I would have liked to eat at Fuddruckers. I appreciate value and don't mind paying extra for quality ingredients.
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Golden Gate delt their last hand the other night. CEO claims that when they installed digital BJ, craps, etc...those had more "action" on them than the tables. The new generation likes the machines instead of tables is what he said.
It's interesting because I didn't know the new gen that he's marketing toward stays at GG. I see more of them on the strip and when we do go to downtown, it's like people in their mid 30's and not their 20's.
All dealers are being moved to Circa.
Fun fact, GG was the 1st casino in Vegas. Hence their address of 1 Freemont Street.
I plan to try bubble craps again when I go to Vegas in December. Last time I played it only because the live tables were always full. I didn't care for it too much but this time I'll give it a fair chance.
I guess my mind is still fixated on live craps. But last trip disgusted me as to why mgt. wouldn't open another table when it was clearly very busy and obvious there were players that wanted to play but couldn't find space at the table.
This upcoming trip will definitely dictate my future trip decisions. Lots of other alternatives out there.
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I plan to try bubble craps again when I go to Vegas in December. Last time I played it only because the live tables were always full. I didn't care for it too much but this time I'll give it a fair chance.
I guess my mind is still fixated on live craps. But last trip disgusted me as to why mgt. wouldn't open another table when it was clearly very busy and obvious there were players that wanted to play but couldn't find space at the table.
This upcoming trip will definitely dictate my future trip decisions. Lots of other alternatives out there.
I've tried both and enjoy collecting chips and interacting with the dealer. Press, parlay, horn high yo, etc...You cannot do these on bubble craps due there being no dealer.
Mrs. CMO tired it for the 1st time at Aria after we ate at Din Tai Fun this past May. She went on a god roll of 38. Problem was she was only betting $3 and beacuse she likes the field, she was basically betting the iron cross. So when a 6/8 would hit, her net profit was $0.50. SHe would lose her $3 field bet and win $3.50 when the 6/8 hit. She also never pressed. She only won $100 from this god roll.
had she been on a table with a $15 min, she would have at least won at least $500 and the dealers would prob be teller her to press or at least press for her as they do that sometimes if it's in your best interest. I was telling her to press, but she didn't listen.
And if I had been on that table, I'd prob have $1500 in profit.
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I've tried both and enjoy collecting chips and interacting with the dealer. Press, parlay, horn high yo, etc...You cannot do these on bubble craps due there being no dealer.
Mrs. CMO tired it for the 1st time at Aria after we ate at Din Tai Fun this past May. She went on a god roll of 38. Problem was she was only betting $3 and beacuse she likes the field, she was basically betting the iron cross. So when a 6/8 would hit, her net profit was $0.50. SHe would lose her $3 field bet and win $3.50 when the 6/8 hit. She also never pressed. She only won $100 from this god roll.
Had she been on a table with a $15 min, she would have at least won at least $500 and the dealers would prob be teller her to press or at least press for her as they do that sometimes if it's in your best interest. I was telling her to press, but she didn't listen.
And if I had been on that table, I'd prob have $1500 in profit.
I've been on craps tables where the rolls go hot, cold, cold, hot, hot, cold, cold, ..... There's no strategy that makes big money in all cases.
I do know that when a hot roller is up, the outcome depends on the numbers rolled. 38 rolls could be half crap numbers. 2,3 and 12 don't make much money unless you're betting them. Most are betting on the standard 4,5,6,8,9,10 layout. However, if most of the numbers rolled are on the place bets, people pressing or playing the COME bets are making bank. I watched 2 methods while a first timer rolled for a long time. She and her husband would roll a placed number and take the winnings. Then a couple of numbers later they pressed. Another in our group was pressing almost every roll. She must have had $1600 on the table after starting with $300 before the 7 came. She wound up down $300. In contrast, the couple of newbies walked away with over $400 each. I made about $325, because I was pressing once, then taking once.
Craps is fun and it can make you a lot of money in a short time. But, you need a lot more to sustain the loses unless you are just super lucky.
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Another thing about tables, this is just by my feelings: I feel that the BJ/Baccarat/Roulette aren't the same odds as the real tables. I've seen multiple youtubers play each and I was amazed at the amount of times they lost. Compare this to the many table vids I've seen. Example: 1 BJ eletronic table shows the history of hands dealt. The dealer hadn't bust in over 15 hands.
IDK what the RNG is compared to real table games as I don't play any of those 3. Plus the format of these look like they're from the 90's and not fun to play.
Compared to bubble craps, unless there's some kind of magnet, the dice "bubble" and it's more uncontrolled. So true chance like throwing the dice.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/las-vegas-slashes-prices-with-first-ever-city-wide-sale-to-lure-visitors/ar-AA1N5myA?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68d1d2762fec4c248f1e2e1033c11feb&ei=9
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/las-vegas-slashes-prices-with-first-ever-city-wide-sale-to-lure-visitors/ar-AA1N5myA?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68d1d2762fec4c248f1e2e1033c11feb&ei=9
Great.
September 22 through September 26
Today is Sept 22. Glad MSN didn't wait until it's too late for this info to be useful! It's called a 5-day sale, but today is already gone.
Four days is plenty of time to drop everything and make travel plans.
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Make a 10 day sale the last two weeks of December (during my trip) and it will make me happy and I might even post a good thing or two about Vegas. :rofl:
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What's interesting is the LV Tourism Authority is spending millions on marketing Vegas to people. IMO, this is a way to pay "marketing" people aka their friends.
1 thing they have is at the airport arrivals near the rideshare is a new "Welcome to Vegas" type sign to take pics. But no one will go to the airport just to take pics with a new sign and people already there have already come.
Wynn has gotten rid of their 000 roulette table.
I think the new trend is showing that casinos are slowly reducing things to bring gamblers back. But not at a huge level. It' slike they do as little as needed to bring in more people.
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What's interesting is the LV Tourism Authority is spending millions on marketing Vegas to people. IMO, this is a way to pay "marketing" people aka their friends.
1 thing they have is at the airport arrivals near the rideshare is a new "Welcome to Vegas" type sign to take pics. But no one will go to the airport just to take pics with a new sign and people already there have already come.
Wynn has gotten rid of their 000 roulette table.
I think the new trend is showing that casinos are slowly reducing things to bring gamblers back. But not at a huge level. It' slike they do as little as needed to bring in more people.
Unfortunately most of the popular resorts are owned by a small number of corporations. If we allow competition to drive prices down, there's really no pressure from one property to the next.
If they drop prices at one of their properties, do they also have to drop prices at all their properties? if they don't, then other corporations aren't going to feel much impact. Seems very complicated compared to individually owned casinos.
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I think individually owned casinos would benefit visitors better.
But I dunno. Derek Stevens who owns the D, Circa, and Golden Gate Downtown went to 100% electronic table games at the Golden Gate location.
I really think Vegas would suck big time if all the properties went to 100% electronic table games.
Profits would soar but people would have to come for it to be a reality.
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I think individually owned casinos would benefit visitors better.
But I dunno. Derek Stevens who owns the D, Circa, and Golden Gate Downtown went to 100% electronic table games at the Golden Gate location.
I really think Vegas would suck big time if all the properties went to 100% electronic table games.
Profits would soar but people would have to come for it to be a reality.
In most companies that provide public services and product sales, labor is almost always their biggest expense.
The more they switch over to machines, the less expensive the casinos are to operate.
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I think individually owned casinos would benefit visitors better.
But I dunno. Derek Stevens who owns the D, Circa, and Golden Gate Downtown went to 100% electronic table games at the Golden Gate location.
I really think Vegas would suck big time if all the properties went to 100% electronic table games.
Profits would soar but people would have to come for it to be a reality.
If Vegas ever did away with table games, I would stop playing and not go.
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If Vegas ever did away with table games, I would stop playing and not go.
The worst thing for me going to Vegas is the damn plane ride. Yeah, if Vegas did away with table games I wouldn't go either. Vegas is making it harder and harder to justify sitting in a steel tube 35,000 ft. in the air for more than 5 hours.
At least with table games with people manning them we can joke, talk story, and have fun shooting the BS to each other while I lose my a$$. :rofl:
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The worst thing for me going to Vegas is the damn plane ride. Yeah, if Vegas did away with table games I wouldn't go either. Vegas is making it harder and harder to justify sitting in a steel tube 35,000 ft. in the air for more than 5 hours.
At least with table games with people manning them we can joke, talk story, and have fun shooting the BS to each other while I lose my a$$. :rofl:
Plus they can teach you things or give advice. Unlike machines.
This is 1 downside to living in HI, it cost a lot and a lot of air time to go anywhere on vacay. I've been to Vegas on the 3 day weekends and it's common for people from CA to drive over. 1 tank of gas is all that it cost. Versus a $500-$800 plane ticket. 4.5 hours or so each direction. I've also seen people just driving on a friday night after work and then drive back home on sunday evening back to CA>
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Plus they can teach you things or give advice. Unlike machines.
This is 1 downside to living in HI, it cost a lot and a lot of air time to go anywhere on vacay. I've been to Vegas on the 3 day weekends and it's common for people from CA to drive over. 1 tank of gas is all that it cost. Versus a $500-$800 plane ticket. 4.5 hours or so each direction. I've also seen people just driving on a friday night after work and then drive back home on sunday evening back to CA>
Based on experience around Biloxi, lots of people who drive a couple of hours probably don't get a room if it's just late Friday thru Sunday afternoon/evening. They either have a fiend that lets them crash at their place, or they catch some z's in their car before driving home. if you are going in a group, the passengers can sleep during the trip and switch off driving.
Or...
You can do a round trip between Vegas & LA for less than $60, and it's about an hour and fifteen minutes to Vegas (not including check-in & clearing security).
This flight is less that $5 plus almost $49 in taxes and fees Total is $53.29 round trip from LA to Vegas, Vegas to Orange County
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Recently, I've been noticing more side bets.
Example:
Craps
Precovid-Fire Bet, ATS was very rare.
Post Covid-ATS at almost every casino now
Within the past year-Hard all day (Paris) If you hit all the hards before a 7, it pays out like 250:1, Ellis Island's 5:1 place hard ways that only clear if a 7 is rolled. So easy 6 or easy 10 and your place bet hard stays up, but it pays less than the normal hardways. El Cortez has a side bet where you need to roll the number X times and you win good payouts before a 7 comes. IDK what this is called. So you need to roll a 6; 6 times and you get paid like 120:1 odds. The 2, 2 times and you get paid 80:1 odds. Stuff like that.
Roulette
Precovid-None
Recently 000, Golden ball, and other types within the past 2 years.
Wynn just pulled their 000 roulette
Blackjack
Precovid-not many
Recently-There's too many to name.
The only side bet that I really enjoy is the ATS on craps. The Fire Bet isn't as fun. And I think for ATS, i'm just above even for all my time playing it and winning. For me, it adds excitement to the game. Last year Mrs. CMO was throwing the dice and rolled a 7, 7x in a roll. This killed my $15 ATS bet. So after she threw her 3rd 7, I began betting $5 on big red. It pays $35. So i covered my ATS and made some money. I wasn't playing the pass line,as I rarely do.
I have also noticed since covid, not as many of the other types of games. Like the Venetian used to have let it ride open all day, but not so much anymore. You're lucky to find it open. Spanish 21 is pretty much not open as often at many casinos. Crazy for Hearts or Crazy for Poker also I haven't seen at various on strip casinos. That giant spinning wheel game.
I think this ties into the dealer shortage so they had to reassign to their more popular games like blackjack, baccarat, etc...Then add in they're laying people off.
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Recently, I've been noticing more side bets.
Example:
Craps
Precovid-Fire Bet, ATS was very rare.
Post Covid-ATS at almost every casino now
Within the past year-Hard all day (Paris) If you hit all the hards before a 7, it pays out like 250:1, Ellis Island's 5:1 place hard ways that only clear if a 7 is rolled. So easy 6 or easy 10 and your place bet hard stays up, but it pays less than the normal hardways. El Cortez has a side bet where you need to roll the number X times and you win good payouts before a 7 comes. IDK what this is called. So you need to roll a 6; 6 times and you get paid like 120:1 odds. The 2, 2 times and you get paid 80:1 odds. Stuff like that.
Roulette
Precovid-None
Recently 000, Golden ball, and other types within the past 2 years.
Wynn just pulled their 000 roulette
Blackjack
Precovid-not many
Recently-There's too many to name.
The only side bet that I really enjoy is the ATS on craps. The Fire Bet isn't as fun. And I think for ATS, i'm just above even for all my time playing it and winning. For me, it adds excitement to the game. Last year Mrs. CMO was throwing the dice and rolled a 7, 7x in a roll. This killed my $15 ATS bet. So after she threw her 3rd 7, I began betting $5 on big red. It pays $35. So i covered my ATS and made some money. I wasn't playing the pass line,as I rarely do.
I have also noticed since covid, not as many of the other types of games. Like the Venetian used to have let it ride open all day, but not so much anymore. You're lucky to find it open. Spanish 21 is pretty much not open as often at many casinos. Crazy for Hearts or Crazy for Poker also I haven't seen at various on strip casinos. That giant spinning wheel game.
I think this ties into the dealer shortage so they had to reassign to their more popular games like blackjack, baccarat, etc...Then add in they're laying people off.
Yeah, I noticed Crapless Craps and the All Tall/All Small bets at many casinos now. I guess it gives the gamblers more places to put their money so the house makes more when a 7 comes around.
Also the Roulette wheels in some casinos have a side bet for the "golden" number. There's an insert with pointers spinning on top of the wheel. The points will align to random numbers on the wheel. If you bet on the side layout for those aligned numbers and the ball hits where the arrow points, you win 100X or 200X your wager on the side bet. That means you need to place bets on the side for where you think the golden pointer will stop -- more money bet per spin = more for the house if you lose.
Here's that roulette table with the side bets at El Cortez.
https://youtu.be/kFYbU84NR88
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Yeah, I noticed Crapless Craps and the All Tall/All Small bets at many casinos now. I guess it gives the gamblers more places to put their money so the house makes more when a 7 comes around.
Also the Roulette wheels in some casinos have a side bet for the "golden" number. There's an insert with pointers spinning on top of the wheel. The points will align to random numbers on the wheel. If you bet on the side layout for those aligned numbers and the ball hits where the arrow points, you win 100X or 200X your wager on the side bet. That means you need to place bets on the side for where you think the golden pointer will stop -- more money bet per spin = more for the house if you lose.
Here's that roulette table with the side bets at El Cortez.
https://youtu.be/kFYbU84NR88
I enjoy her channel as she does more table games. She took like a year off cause she's in law school. She's almost done and now she's back.
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I enjoy her channel as she does more table games. She took like a year off cause she's in law school. She's almost done and now she's back.
i used to watch her often, but i got tired of having to set my player at half speed to try and keep up with what she's saying!
:geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
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i used to watch her often, but i got tired of having to set my player at half speed to try and keep up with what she's saying!
:geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
Lol, your post piqued my interest so I had to watch the video. Yes, she's just like my youngest daughter and my grandaughter.
They talk so fast, I give up. I just tune them out when they are talking amongst themselves and with others in the family when they gather at my house.
I told both of them straight, I don't understand a word they say. I tell them they remind me of the M-60 machine gun I used to carry back in the day.
My two older daughters I can understand because they talk slower. It might be because there is a 10 year age gap between my youngest and my 2nd oldest. My youngest and my grandaughter were born during the valley girl days. :rofl:
I know. :stopjack:
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i used to watch her often, but i got tired of having to set my player at half speed to try and keep up with what she's saying!
:geekdanc: :thumbsup: :rofl:
Mrs. CMO hates the pitch of her voice, so when I do watch her channel, I have to do it when she's not watching TV and in the other room doing chores or something else.
I like her channel because not many focus on tables games. Many do slots as that's the easiest to do.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R534TKRt5EY&t=52s
What???!!!! LOCALS ONLY?????!!!!
Yoo fackahs. :grrr:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9JcX8UvQJ0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9JcX8UvQJ0
He has a point that the market is adjusting. Although we aren't back to the precovid Vegas days, casinos are taking steps to lower cost for it's guest.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/do-any-vegas-casinos-have-free-parking-see-which-hotels-still-do/ar-AA1Ns9ry?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68d97004a82d4e59a8edbfff7b193981&ei=13
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/do-any-vegas-casinos-have-free-parking-see-which-hotels-still-do/ar-AA1Ns9ry?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68d97004a82d4e59a8edbfff7b193981&ei=13
Just my opinion but I was watching a Vegas food vlog video where the content creator was harping on the fact that the casino offers free parking.
It was somewhere on the Strip. Anyway the place he was eating at was just a regular mid-tier restaurant but OMG, the prices were crazy.
It was one of my "hmmmmm" moments. Were the prices high because......... ;D
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amongst other news, F1 contract extended 5 years...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDvI4e3rWM
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amongst other news, F1 contract extended 5 years...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfDvI4e3rWM
Amazing that one weekend event can tie up almost the whole month of November as far as traffic woes.
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They're scamming the people with F1. As in saying "we dont' know if the contract will be renewed". Then later to renew it for X years, then another X years. IMO, the plan was always to keep F1 here for the 10 years.
Just for an idea of traffic, we took the cut off by Treasure Island heading toward Palazzo parking lot. It's about 2 blocks. It took us 30 minutes to go the 2 blocks. This was last thanksgiving Wednesday, so about 4 days after F1.
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They're scamming the people with F1. As in saying "we dont' know if the contract will be renewed". Then later to renew it for X years, then another X years. IMO, the plan was always to keep F1 here for the 10 years.
Just for an idea of traffic, we took the cut off by Treasure Island heading toward Palazzo parking lot. It's about 2 blocks. It took us 30 minutes to go the 2 blocks. This was last thanksgiving Wednesday, so about 4 days after F1.
Yep. They didn't invest that kind of money to hold races to then decide "Never mind!"
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The Governor Lambardo (R) is coming up for re-election. He's the only reason why anti 2a bills are veto'd. He veto'd like 6 this year. NV's senate and assembly (house) are DNC controlled by about 62%. So they don't have the power to override any veto as they don't have 2/3's majority.
But NV is slowly going more blue as the years pass.
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Oyo is doing away with all tables games at the end of Oct. This place was known to have a shitty hotel/rooms, broken elevator and not notify anyone, and $1 blackjack.
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Oyo is doing away with all tables games at the end of Oct. This place was known to have a shitty hotel/rooms, broken elevator and not notify anyone, and $1 blackjack.
Interesting that it's called Oyo (On your own).
I would think they should call themselves Yoyo (You're on your own). :rofl:
In high school we used to call people or things yoyos if we felt they or it were a joke. ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0mpnEjM1BA
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Rio claims that they're "re-opening" their $3 craps today. I didn't know that they ever had this. I know Fremont had during certain hours only and precovid. I've asked the pitboss if Mrs. CMO can bet $3 mins cause she's not comfortable during a non $3 gaming hours and they always said OK.
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Rio claims that they're "re-opening" their $3 craps today. I didn't know that they ever had this. I know Fremont had during certain hours only and precovid. I've asked the pitboss if Mrs. CMO can bet $3 mins cause she's not comfortable during a non $3 gaming hours and they always said OK.
I remember years ago I was playing at a $3 table at Fremont at around 5am. There were a lot of local old time players playing and they kinda knew I was a tourist and they just tolerated my newbie behavior. I was still new to the game and wasn't comfortable playing like them.
I'm not very good at math so I just kept playing at the $5 level because it's easier for me to understand and know the payouts. Fremont had less than a dollar denomination chips for the $3 table.
I found out that these players get up early every morning to come play a couple of hours before they head off to work. By 7 am they were gone.
They bet small, win small, buy-in small. All they want to do is play because they love the game.
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I remember years ago I was playing at a $3 table at Fremont at around 5am. There were a lot of local old time players playing and they kinda knew I was a tourist and they just tolerated my newbie behavior. I was still new to the game and wasn't comfortable playing like them.
I'm not very good at math so I just kept playing at the $5 level because it's easier for me to understand and know the payouts. Fremont had less than a dollar denomination chips for the $3 table.
I found out that these players get up early every morning to come play a couple of hours before they head off to work. By 7 am they were gone.
They bet small, win small, buy-in small. All they want to do is play because they love the game.
The old timers / experienced players understand something about gaming that many never seem to get:
Place the smallest min bet you can afford to lose. That might be $2, $3, $5 or $25 depending on your personal savings and earnings. That way you will have more chances to hit that one-in-a-miliion roll for over an hour or two.
You can't win if you don't play. But higher minimums take your money faster if you're what the video called a "low quality player". It's why the minimums are usually higher, often double, on the Strip on weekends -- to sheer the "low quality" sheep faster.
For every $3 bet you make, that's $2-$7 you weren't force to bet which can keep you in the game longer. If the minimum is $10, you'll need about 3 or more times your previous bankroll to sustain the loses.
Then again, maybe they are all degenerates who only go to work to pay for their gambling habit! :geekdanc:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0mpnEjM1BA
I initially couldn't see how Vegas was still making money but I'm beginning to see how they crunched the numbers.
It's a tightrope formula with very little leeway. A combination of investing in the whales and giving them whatever they want while cutting services and accommodations to the middle and lower tier visitors by reducing maintenance, security, and housekeeping services.
Contract out the food concessions to reduce expenses and gut the player loyalty program to the bare minimum.
Meanwhile introduce parking fees, kitchen fees, resort fees, use the toilet fees, charge $18 for Lake Mead Water, concert ticket fees, thinking of going to a concert fee, trying to get a concert ticket fee, looking at the Sphere fee, walking the Strip fee, hanging around the Fremont Canopy fee, waiting for oxtail soup at the Market St. Cafe fee, check-in fee, check-out fee, checking out chicks fee, looking at the CW boobs fee, looking at the CW a$$ fee, free cocktail drink fee, pissing in the pools fee, fart neutralizing ventilation fee, and a fee for the fees above.
By God, it does work.
What I'd like to see is the whales forsake Vegas for other destinations like Macau, Hong Kong, and other places.
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I initially couldn't see how Vegas was still making money but I'm beginning to see how they crunched the numbers.
It's a tightrope formula with very little leeway. A combination of investing in the whales and giving them whatever they want while cutting services and accommodations to the middle and lower tier visitors by reducing maintenance, security, and housekeeping services.
Contract out the food concessions to reduce expenses and gut the player loyalty program to the bare minimum.
Meanwhile introduce parking fees, kitchen fees, resort fees, use the toilet fees, charge $18 for Lake Mead Water, concert ticket fees, thinking of going to a concert fee, trying to get a concert ticket fee, looking at the Sphere fee, walking the Strip fee, hanging around the Fremont Canopy fee, waiting for oxtail soup at the Market St. Cafe fee, check-in fee, check-out fee, checking out chicks fee, looking at the CW boobs fee, looking at the CW a$$ fee, free cocktail drink fee, pissing in the pools fee, fart neutralizing ventilation fee, and a fee for the fees above.
By God, it does work.
What I'd like to see is the whales forsake Vegas for other destinations like Macau, Hong Kong, and other places.
Not only have low quality players changed their travel habits and found other things besides gambling to spend money on, those who still want to gamble have many more options now. Cruise ship gambling has seen a significant increase as their cruise prices have dropped and Vegas has continued to cost more and more.
I'm sure the Vegas casinos are sorry to see those dollars go elsewhere, but it should have been anticipated.when they started charging for everything, including for resort fees even when there are no resort amenities! Cruises give you all the amenities, food, drinks, and live entertainment of a casino, plus the excitement and relaxation of being on the ocean and making stops at various ports. Oh, and they have gambling, too. Some even hold slot tournaments, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxh1jVYp_fE
A lot of food vloggers are also asking their viewers what they think about the current conditions in Vegas.
Lot of commenters are saying that the food vloggers don't really want to paint a dismal picture of Vegas since it is their bread and butter but almost all of them are venturing off-strip to find great food deals to share.
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I'm seeing more and more "deals" coming about. IMO, they aren't "deals", well a good one anyways. A good deal saves you money.
Example: 1 slice of pizza and a fountain drink for $12.99 or 2 pizzas and a drink for $20.99.
Prefix meal for $59.99 and the portions given are much smaller than the regular food items. So are you really getting a good deal?
IMO, it seems more like marketing than a deal. Or maybe, I'm just used to the precovid deals. 1 slice pizza and a drink for $6.99.
But off strip at Station Casinos seem like a good deal. Burger and fries for $5.99; but late night only. But since this is at their cafe and not a private food vendor, I guess they can lose some money on the cheaper food in hopes one gambles and loses.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XPIJcC5gY0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zWqpQtjtbg
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What no make sense to me is that if the Vegas corporations are going the fewer is better route, meaning it's more profitable to cater to the whales than the masses,
then how are these Vegas corporations going to justify:
All the mostly empty mid-tier and economy hotel rooms (upkeep and maintenance)
The mid tier restaurants and "food halls" all over the place (Whales don't go to Steak and Shake)
And the biggest and most obvious of them all:
The 100,000 to 300,000 square feet of casino space crammed with penny slot machines, quarter, nickel, and dime slot machines, and table games that the whales would thumb their noses at.
That's a lot of casino space for a few hundred "regular" people throwing a twenty here and there.
Seems like a drain on their profits keeping those thousands upon thousands of empty slot machines blinking, twinkling, and glittering with no one sitting in front of it.
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What no make sense to me is that if the Vegas corporations are going the fewer is better route, meaning it's more profitable to cater to the whales than the masses,
then how are these Vegas corporations going to justify:
All the mostly empty mid-tier and economy hotel rooms (upkeep and maintenance)
The mid tier restaurants and "food halls" all over the place (Whales don't go to Steak and Shake)
And the biggest and most obvious of them all:
The 100,000 to 300,000 square feet of casino space crammed with penny slot machines, quarter, nickel, and dime slot machines, and table games that the whales would thumb their noses at.
That's a lot of casino space for a few hundred "regular" people throwing a twenty here and there.
Seems like a drain on their profits keeping those thousands upon thousands of empty slot machines blinking, twinkling, and glittering with no one sitting in front of it.
Sounds like the casinos have adopted the makor airlines' philosophy of customer appeasement.
I had a co-worker who, in a previous job, flew all around the Pacific.He traveled enough to earn the million mile level on several airlines.
His company wouldn't pay for first class seating, and he is a rather big & tall type man. Not fat at all, just really tall and the rest proportional. Trying to get comfortable in a coach or business class seat just wasn't easy.
Somehow he was able to convince one airline that he'd do all his flying on their airline whenever possible. In return, he asked that they reserve a second empty seat next to him. That gave him enough space to not sit the entire way with his knees under his chin.
On one particular flight, the plane was booked solid. When he complained that he wasn't provided the second seat (which was in his customer record to be provided), he asked for whoever was the top airline official on site. That was the company VP at that airport.
Once he made his case, the VP pointed at the plane waiting for him to board and told him, "There are only 20 passengers on that flight that I give a shit about. They are all in the first class cabin." He was upgraded to first class on that trip to make up for the mistake, but it let him know where his coach ticket placed him in the grand scheme or airline appreciation. I guess they still had a first class seat available.
I once flew to Korea on a 747 where the 7 of us in my group had the entire rear section of the plane to ourselves. It was on Korean Airlines. I'm guessing with it being a 747, it had many more first and business class seats sold in order to cover the cost. Probably the most comfortable flight to or from Hawaii in my life. Coach seating, and first class service.
The point is, there are fixed costs, and there are variable costs. As long as the casino can cover its fixed costs and the variable costs per customer, empty rooms as a rule are not a problem. If nobody is in the room, there's no cleaning, maintenance, water, electricity, front desk services (checking in/out) or accounting cost associated with it like there is in an occupied room. So, if they leave it vacant, the cost might not be more than air conditioning.
During special events when rooms are hard to get, I'm sure the higher room rates and higher occupancies help balance out the lost revenue from vacancies.
Just like the airlines, if the casinos are focusing on the people who do more to pay the bills and salaries, maybe that's the smartest course. Getting the low quality visitors who barely put $20 in a slot machine over an entire weekend won't cover the cost to have them stay there.
You have to ask yourself why every property has a player's club and how they can afford to give away free game play, food, drinks, rooms, shows, etc. By rewarding the guests who spend more time on the games, they increase the casino revenue which covers the comps and everything else the guest costs the hotel. The rewards also keep them returning to the properties they get the best rewards from -- customer loyalty.
There's an old saying: you might be staying in a comp'ed room, but you're paying for the casino!
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Sounds like the casinos have adopted the makor airlines' philosophy of customer appeasement.
I had a co-worker who, in a previous job, flew all around the Pacific.He traveled enough to earn the million mile level on several airlines.
His company wouldn't pay for first class seating, and he is a rather big & tall type man. Not fat at all, just really tall and the rest proportional. Trying to get comfortable in a coach or business class seat just wasn't easy.
Somehow he was able to convince one airline that he'd do all his flying on their airline whenever possible. In return, he asked that they reserve a second empty seat next to him. That gave him enough space to not sit the entire way with his knees under his chin.
On one particular flight, the plane was booked solid. When he complained that he wasn't provided the second seat (which was in his customer record to be provided), he asked for whoever was the top airline official on site. That was the company VP at that airport.
Once he made his case, the VP pointed at the plane waiting for him to board and told him, "There are only 20 passengers on that flight that I give a shit about. They are all in the first class cabin." He was upgraded to first class on that trip to make up for the mistake, but it let him know where his coach ticket placed him in the grand scheme or airline appreciation. I guess they still had a first class seat available.
My cousin is a flight attendant and on 1 flight a guy was getting rude and loud during boarding. A gentleman approached him and asked what's going on and his reply was "who TF are you? Mind your own f--in business and sit down". The reply back was I'm the president of the airline, get off my plane.
Back to topic: I would like to see the breakdown of revenue from various levels of betting. Like the $4 a spin vs $25/spin and the $15 tables vs $25. I would like to see if volume would beat amount. But I have a feeling that amount wins as the casinos run the numbers on how to maximize profits.
And theres that "average theoretical daily" that they use to justify comps. So if you're being comp'd well, assume they expect you to lose a lot. As in you're not lucky or a very good player. I know guy with higher status than me for Venetian/Palazzo and I get more room comps than they do. I'm only tier 2 (3,000 pts) and they're tier 3 (20,000 pts). So it's a big difference in play.
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When I used to go 3 to 4 times a year my comps were usually just free rooms.
Not even free play or food vouchers.
Now I go once a year, play and spend the same way I always do and now I get free room, food vouchers, and even free play.
WTF. They trying to get me to come more often so they can cut the food vouchers and free play, lol! :rofl:
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When I used to go 3 to 4 times a year my comps were usually just free rooms.
Not even free play or food vouchers.
Now I go once a year, play and spend the same way I always do and now I get free room, food vouchers, and even free play.
WTF. They trying to get me to come more often so they can cut the food vouchers and free play, lol! :rofl:
I think the change I saw at the Cal and other Boyd's casinos is they started treating table game regulars just like the slots players. Before, the table players got the free rooms and so forth by calling the casino and having your main game's pit supervisor. They would book your room after they had time to review your play history. You'd then call back after a day or 2 to get your room reservation confirmation number. During my visit, when i was hungry, i asked for a comp ticket, and they would usually make it a certain max amount and specify with or without alcohol based on my preference.
Now, they send you offers for rooms, food, and free play just like they do for slot's players. i guess there's no slots supervisor to give you personal service, so it was always handled like this. depending on the tier of player's club you qualify for, the rewards could be a discounted room up to free rooms, etc.
I think the last time I went, i still called the BJ pit, and that time I gave them my offer codes. They reserved an upgraded room and included a 3-day food voucher for my 7-day visit. I was doing a 5-day Front Sight class, so I didn't think I could use more food coupons than that. I grabbed Jack-in-the-Box drive-thru one my way to Pahrump, something light/quick at the FS compound for lunch, and dinner at the hotel. They had 24 hour breakfast, so those were good for dinner -- I love pancakes for dinner! :geekdanc:
One supervisor in particular greeted me by name no matter how long since my last visit. When i first met him, it was on a trip with my wife to celebrate her birthday. The room was at The Cal in the tower were the elevators are next to the Buddha in the lobby. We complained that the bed was uncomfortably firm for us, and Jeff took 10 minutes to change our room and handed us our new keycards. The new room was a corner suite in the other tower with a living room, bar, massive bath area with whirlpool tub, couches, .... and a view of the mountains.
Nothing like a human being taking care of you instead of an automated system that spits out periodic offers using nothing but math.
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But Just like the Rest of America, Democrat-Run Vegas is in Decline.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/wayne-root-las-vegas-isnt-dying-just-like/
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But Just like the Rest of America, Democrat-Run Vegas is in Decline.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/10/wayne-root-las-vegas-isnt-dying-just-like/
Interesting article. IDK if it's a DNC/GOP issue, but more of a ivy league/number cruncher attitude about how to squeeze out max profits vs. OG attitude of taking care of your guest. I would be surprised if those who make the decision have ever been to the casino floor and played or spend a good amount of time watching people play.
I know a bunch who work at Venetian/Palazzo, which was the last of the mom n pop owned casinos on the strip. Everyone referred to the owner as Mr. Edelson. Never by first name or both first and last name. This was not only on property, but wen off property and we're eating together or doing something else.
I think it's a sign of respect that he took care of his workers and guest. Many stated free parking is what he wants, even after he died, his family kept the free parking until they sold to the hedge fund corp.
Same concept when I saw the roast of Tom Brady. He referred to the Patriots owner as Mr. Kraft. Never by first name or both first and last name. He even stepped in when the roasters were almost going overboard when roasting Mr. Kraft. Tom isn't playing anymore so he doesn't need to be nice to keep playing or to get paid by the Patriots. Yet he shows respect. Even Julian Edleman did the same.
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It would make sense that Station Casinos lean GOP as when Kirk was assassinated, all their digital billboards outside had a picture of Kirk on them.
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It would make sense that Station Casinos lean GOP as when Kirk was assassinated, all their digital billboards outside had a picture of Kirk on them.
The State of Nevada has generally leaned slightly more GOP in presidential elections, but the city of Las Vegas is divided pretty evenly.
As a swing state, they do help the presidential race winner get to the finish line over 80% of the time, but I have to wonder: did the candidate win because NV voted for them, or did NV vote for that candidate because they predicted he'd win? It's like a chicken and egg riddle.
Nevada is considered a "purple" state, meaning it has a mix of
Democratic and Republican voters, with recent trends showing
a slight lean towards the Democratic Party. Historically, Nevada
has voted for the winning presidential candidate 87.5% of the
time since 1900, reflecting its status as a swing state.
A lot off California Refugees fled to LV, which has been responsible for significantly higher housing prices and increased prices overall. Be prepared for the transplanted Liberals to start trying take over bringing their failed ideas to yet another state.
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Compared to 2016, Trump got 50,000 more votes from Clark County (Vegas) in 2020. Brandon only got 5,000 more votes than the DNC runner (Clinton) did in 2016. But Clark County still had more DNC than GOP voters.
Washoe County also voted for Brandon. But these 2 alone voted for Brandon, the remaining counties voted Trump, thus a Trump vote from NV.
I've been talking to some who live in Washoe County and they're more GOP than DNC, but the issue is they dont' vote as it's a far drive or empathy.
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I think there is a correlation between size of government, population and GDP.
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I think there is a correlation between size of government, population and GDP.
I'm starting to notice that. When I looked into TX, I noticed all the major cities are blue. Houston, Dallas, Austin, etc...It's the areas around these cities that are red, thus making TX red. Then add in the top 10 gun murder cities are all blue.
NV is slowly going more red, as they were leaning more blue prior to 2018 or so. There is speculation that their state senate and assembly (house) will have more red seats coming up. Right now it's like 62% blue.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hsqUIy2tIg
I remember the days where if you wanted to eat, the world was at your fingertips, no matter what time it was, day or night.
One of my favorite memories of Vegas is every casino had a 24 hr. cafe.
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That's 1 of the sad things that came about after covid, no more 24/7 food. Some have reopened, but not all like precovid. Or places taht would close at like 2AM now close at 9pm.
I used to watch Derrick and Katherine, but stopped when they moved to CA and didn't do as much Vegas vids. IDK why they moved, does anyone know? They may have covered it, but I didn't see taht vid if they did.
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I'm also noticing an influx of "Vegas is Dead" videos by all of the content creators.
Maybe a month or so ago I would estimate 3 out of 5 videos out on YTube would talk about the price gouging and declining visitor numbers.
Now it seems everyone and putin's grandmother is posting Vegas is Dead videos. Many of them don't even have any facts or figures to back their claim except hearsay and memories of Vegas past.
YTube must be so competitive. I see these content creators as rats climbing upon each other as the boat is sinking out at sea.
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I'm also noticing an influx of "Vegas is Dead" videos by all of the content creators.
Maybe a month or so ago I would estimate 3 out of 5 videos out on YTube would talk about the price gouging and declining visitor numbers.
Now it seems everyone and putin's grandmother is posting Vegas is Dead videos. Many of them don't even have any facts or figures to back their claim except hearsay and memories of Vegas past.
YTube must be so competitive. I see these content creators as rats climbing upon each other as the boat is sinking out at sea.
Have you not been introduced to the concept of click-bait, yet?
(rhetorical) :geekdanc:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM3SId34NCs
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Have you not been introduced to the concept of click-bait, yet?
(rhetorical) :geekdanc:
I'm a click bait whore. :( :rofl:
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this guy is obnoxious with the "award winning chef" and "it's just like i made in my restaurants", but he covers a lot of restaurants not just the "influencer" type of places...
https://www.youtube.com/@LetsEatVegas
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I hope the whales that Vegas caters to go somewhere else. I really do. I'm already researching other destinations that value "commoners" like me.
I hope Vegas experiences what happens when they put all their eggs in one basket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDlbJVD0V48
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this guy is obnoxious with the "award winning chef" and "it's just like i made in my restaurants", but he covers a lot of restaurants not just the "influencer" type of places...
https://www.youtube.com/@LetsEatVegas
I tune into this guy every now and then. I find it amusing how superfluous his reviews are but at least he reviews the food which is what I look for in food vlogs. Other food vloggers I won't mention (Danny the Medic) makes food review videos with no reviews. It's mostly about themselves. Narcissist POS disguised as a food vlogger.
And yeah, I laugh when he mentions he is an "award winning chef" and claims the food is just like how he makes it when he owned his restaurant.
If that's the case, what happened, bro? It's like you went from the NFL to the Pop Warner league.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnUk5QpGFG4
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I tune into this guy every now and then. I find it amusing how superfluous his reviews are but at least he reviews the food which is what I look for in food vlogs. Other food vloggers I won't mention (Danny the Medic) makes food review videos with no reviews. It's mostly about themselves. Narcissist POS disguised as a food vlogger.
Can you elaborate about DTM?
He gives food a 1-10 rating and even does it for individual items. Like a hambuger, he will rate the bun and then the patty, and then together as a whole.
He did say that he isn't a food vlogger, he just eats where he wants and tells people what he thinks. Compared to others who are invited to events or by the restaurant and get comp'd or specials. I mean DTM does get invited to some events, but over 97% of his vids are of his own.
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Can you elaborate about DTM?
He gives food a 1-10 rating and even does it for individual items. Like a hambuger, he will rate the bun and then the patty, and then together as a whole.
He did say that he isn't a food vlogger, he just eats where he wants and tells people what he thinks. Compared to others who are invited to events or by the restaurant and get comp'd or specials. I mean DTM does get invited to some events, but over 97% of his vids are of his own.
It's hard to explain. The way I perceive him anyway. He claims he is real and tells nothing but truth. I actually liked him and subscribed to his channel when he was just starting up. He did seem genuine.
He posts a video everyday. Sometimes more than one video a day. So he has a ton of content out there. Since I was a fanboy of him I watched and absorbed every video he made.
Here are some of his "signature" characteristics that started me to dislike him:
1. Sexual innuendos. These are fine if that's what floats your boat but he will end it by blaming you, the viewer. He will paint it as you are the one with the dirty mind.
2. His hate for vegetables. Again, this is fine. Everyone is different. But he will make comments that veggie eaters are out of their mind. And guess who he is referring to: his viewers.
3. He lies. Yes, I believe he does. He will claim he never did, experience, or seen something but if you follow his videos closely you will realize he has done it or seen it or experienced it before.
4. He disrespects. I think his desire to increase his channel, clicks, views, and subscriptions blinds him to the fact that he does not realize he is being disrespectful.
5. He will not apologize. Even though his viewers call him out on something offensive or disrespectful, he will not apologize. Again, I think his desire to increase his content overshadows common ethics in vlogging.
I think this video, where he collaborates with Tim Lee, will show what I'm trying to say. This was bound to happen and a large portion of his viewers were not happy with his behavior. If you read the comments that followed the video you will see that it actually changed his future behavior in his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZjaVtgyEo&t=695s
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It's hard to explain. The way I perceive him anyway. He claims he is real and tells nothing but truth. I actually liked him and subscribed to his channel when he was just starting up. He did seem genuine.
He posts a video everyday. Sometimes more than one video a day. So he has a ton of content out there. Since I was a fanboy of him I watched and absorbed every video he made.
Here are some of his "signature" characteristics that started me to dislike him:
1. Sexual innuendos. These are fine if that's what floats your boat but he will end it by blaming you, the viewer. He will paint it as you are the one with the dirty mind.
2. His hate for vegetables. Again, this is fine. Everyone is different. But he will make comments that veggie eaters are out of their mind. And guess who he is referring to: his viewers.
3. He lies. Yes, I believe he does. He will claim he never did, experience, or seen something but if you follow his videos closely you will realize he has done it or seen it or experienced it before.
4. He disrespects. I think his desire to increase his channel, clicks, views, and subscriptions blinds him to the fact that he does not realize he is being disrespectful.
5. He will not apologize. Even though his viewers call him out on something offensive or disrespectful, he will not apologize. Again, I think his desire to increase his content overshadows common ethics in vlogging.
I think this video, where he collaborates with Tim Lee, will show what I'm trying to say. This was bound to happen and a large portion of his viewers were not happy with his behavior. If you read the comments that followed the video you will see that it actually changed his future behavior in his videos.
All YT content creators know one thing -- the more subscribers, views AND COMMENTS they get on their monetized videos, the more $$ they make.
If he's putting out disrespectful, controversial, or non-apologetic statements in his video, it's more than likely to trigger people into making comments and to start discussions (arguments) between viewers.
I would wager most of what he says that's negative toward groups of people are probably meant to increase viewer participation.
I might be wrong, but that's what many, many YT content creators have said.
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It's hard to explain. The way I perceive him anyway. He claims he is real and tells nothing but truth. I actually liked him and subscribed to his channel when he was just starting up. He did seem genuine.
He posts a video everyday. Sometimes more than one video a day. So he has a ton of content out there. Since I was a fanboy of him I watched and absorbed every video he made.
Here are some of his "signature" characteristics that started me to dislike him:
1. Sexual innuendos. These are fine if that's what floats your boat but he will end it by blaming you, the viewer. He will paint it as you are the one with the dirty mind.
2. His hate for vegetables. Again, this is fine. Everyone is different. But he will make comments that veggie eaters are out of their mind. And guess who he is referring to: his viewers.
3. He lies. Yes, I believe he does. He will claim he never did, experience, or seen something but if you follow his videos closely you will realize he has done it or seen it or experienced it before.
4. He disrespects. I think his desire to increase his channel, clicks, views, and subscriptions blinds him to the fact that he does not realize he is being disrespectful.
5. He will not apologize. Even though his viewers call him out on something offensive or disrespectful, he will not apologize. Again, I think his desire to increase his content overshadows common ethics in vlogging.
I think this video, where he collaborates with Tim Lee, will show what I'm trying to say. This was bound to happen and a large portion of his viewers were not happy with his behavior. If you read the comments that followed the video you will see that it actually changed his future behavior in his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZjaVtgyEo&t=695s
I haven't watched this one yet, but I will later and give my $0.02.
But I would say never apologize when on YT or social media. You cannot please everyone and apologizing just sets precedent to trying to appease the crowd at that moment.
I have seen all his vids and I never found him to be disrespectful. But I haven't watched the above Tim Lee one, but even though, it's 1 vid vs hundreds.
IMO, I htink his attitude toward veggie eaters is all in his humor. Same with his sexual inuendos.
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I haven't watched this one yet, but I will later and give my $0.02.
But I would say never apologize when on YT or social media. You cannot please everyone and apologizing just sets precedent to trying to appease the crowd at that moment.
I have seen all his vids and I never found him to be disrespectful. But I haven't watched the above Tim Lee one, but even though, it's 1 vid vs hundreds.
IMO, I htink his attitude toward veggie eaters is all in his humor. Same with his sexual inuendos.
I think the nation as a whole has broken its collective funny bone. There's no other explanation for the late night comedy shows to have such unfunny people appealing to hatred and political fighting.
i'm old enough to remember when comedians TRIED to be edgy, not apologize for it.
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I was in Vegas for a week end of Aug. It certainly oha changed a lot since what I remember from pre-COVID. That said, reasons and “approach” in going to Vegas has changed a lot over the last 5 years or so.
I went stayed at Aria and Venetian, but went to Downtown often. Big difference in areas as well as which days. Since I was there for (9) days, I saw stark difference between Mon-Thu and Thu-Sun. Some venues seemed to have less drop off between the “rush days” than others.
Talking with locals, Uber drivers, etc most commented about how times have changed and “times are rough”. Nothing new or not mentioned above, but seemed like that’s all folks were talking about.
I don’t enjoy Vegas as much as I used to, nor do I have the burning desire to go to Vegas as before. It’s ok though. It is what it is. I still enjoy going to Vegas, but nowadays I’d rather travel to other destinations.
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It's hard to explain. The way I perceive him anyway. He claims he is real and tells nothing but truth. I actually liked him and subscribed to his channel when he was just starting up. He did seem genuine.
He posts a video everyday. Sometimes more than one video a day. So he has a ton of content out there. Since I was a fanboy of him I watched and absorbed every video he made.
Here are some of his "signature" characteristics that started me to dislike him:
1. Sexual innuendos. These are fine if that's what floats your boat but he will end it by blaming you, the viewer. He will paint it as you are the one with the dirty mind.
2. His hate for vegetables. Again, this is fine. Everyone is different. But he will make comments that veggie eaters are out of their mind. And guess who he is referring to: his viewers.
3. He lies. Yes, I believe he does. He will claim he never did, experience, or seen something but if you follow his videos closely you will realize he has done it or seen it or experienced it before.
4. He disrespects. I think his desire to increase his channel, clicks, views, and subscriptions blinds him to the fact that he does not realize he is being disrespectful.
5. He will not apologize. Even though his viewers call him out on something offensive or disrespectful, he will not apologize. Again, I think his desire to increase his content overshadows common ethics in vlogging.
I think this video, where he collaborates with Tim Lee, will show what I'm trying to say. This was bound to happen and a large portion of his viewers were not happy with his behavior. If you read the comments that followed the video you will see that it actually changed his future behavior in his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZjaVtgyEo&t=695s
I saw the vid. I didnt' see anything that was disrespectful like how the comments mention.
He told RC that he's American with regard to eating weird things. Like the pigs blood. Most people won't eat it as it's an acquired taste. Danny often mentions how he doesn't eat chicken feet and how Tung loves it. No one complains.
Tim overall seems more PC than Danny is. I look forward to Danny's humor as it makes the vids interesting. Comapre this to say All you Can Vegas, they're boring as it's just about food and no cool stories. Which is why I only watch their Vegas vids and no other ones as they won't interest me as I dont' go to CA.
But to each their own. If you find him a certain way, then that's fine. You have your own opinions.
What I do find intereting is it appeared that Danny was taking a smoke break outside. If he is a smoker, the 2 times I met him, I never smelt smoke on him.
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I was in Vegas for a week end of Aug. It certainly oha changed a lot since what I remember from pre-COVID. That said, reasons and “approach” in going to Vegas has changed a lot over the last 5 years or so.
I went stayed at Aria and Venetian, but went to Downtown often. Big difference in areas as well as which days. Since I was there for (9) days, I saw stark difference between Mon-Thu and Thu-Sun. Some venues seemed to have less drop off between the “rush days” than others.
Talking with locals, Uber drivers, etc most commented about how times have changed and “times are rough”. Nothing new or not mentioned above, but seemed like that’s all folks were talking about.
I don’t enjoy Vegas as much as I used to, nor do I have the burning desire to go to Vegas as before. It’s ok though. It is what it is. I still enjoy going to Vegas, but nowadays I’d rather travel to other destinations.
How were the tables? My friend came back this past week and he's a pai gow and bacarat player. he got smoked. Even on face up paigow, which is usually a push. He would lose 8 hands in a row. Same with bacarat. No matter what he bet, he lost.
I saw a youtuber do interviews Miki Maski or something like that. He says how they can rig the show/machine for cards being dealt. I find most of what he says as BS and his vids are for entertainment purposes. Can casinos rig shoes, of course, but if they were ever caught that would be the end of them. Do they do other things to throw off your game, of course and that has been done for generations. Like changing the stickman more often during a hot shooter. But if you believe in math, then this action has zero effect.
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if you believe in the math, you will not believe in a "hot roller" or hot/cold table...
How were the tables? My friend came back this past week and he's a pai gow and bacarat player. he got smoked. Even on face up paigow, which is usually a push. He would lose 8 hands in a row. Same with bacarat. No matter what he bet, he lost.
I saw a youtuber do interviews Miki Maski or something like that. He says how they can rig the show/machine for cards being dealt. I find most of what he says as BS and his vids are for entertainment purposes. Can casinos rig shoes, of course, but if they were ever caught that would be the end of them. Do they do other things to throw off your game, of course and that has been done for generations. Like changing the stickman more often during a hot shooter. But if you believe in math, then this action has zero effect.
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How were the tables? My friend came back this past week and he's a pai gow and bacarat player. he got smoked. Even on face up paigow, which is usually a push. He would lose 8 hands in a row. Same with bacarat. No matter what he bet, he lost.
I saw a youtuber do interviews Miki Maski or something like that. He says how they can rig the show/machine for cards being dealt. I find most of what he says as BS and his vids are for entertainment purposes. Can casinos rig shoes, of course, but if they were ever caught that would be the end of them. Do they do other things to throw off your game, of course and that has been done for generations. Like changing the stickman more often during a hot shooter. But if you believe in math, then this action has zero effect.
This trip, I didn’t play much on tables. Mostly live poker. Played craps, BJ, bac, etc here and there. It was same to me.
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if you believe in the math, you will not believe in a "hot roller" or hot/cold table...
Math? What dat math?
I do have superstitions. Like have super dirty friend that we never let even touch a table if he didn’t start with us. It’s not weird/strange if if “works” :crazy: :rofl:
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i find tim lee SUPER annoying
but some of that is because i have a super annoying friend with the last name lee that looks and acts exatly the same...
It's hard to explain. The way I perceive him anyway. He claims he is real and tells nothing but truth. I actually liked him and subscribed to his channel when he was just starting up. He did seem genuine.
He posts a video everyday. Sometimes more than one video a day. So he has a ton of content out there. Since I was a fanboy of him I watched and absorbed every video he made.
Here are some of his "signature" characteristics that started me to dislike him:
1. Sexual innuendos. These are fine if that's what floats your boat but he will end it by blaming you, the viewer. He will paint it as you are the one with the dirty mind.
2. His hate for vegetables. Again, this is fine. Everyone is different. But he will make comments that veggie eaters are out of their mind. And guess who he is referring to: his viewers.
3. He lies. Yes, I believe he does. He will claim he never did, experience, or seen something but if you follow his videos closely you will realize he has done it or seen it or experienced it before.
4. He disrespects. I think his desire to increase his channel, clicks, views, and subscriptions blinds him to the fact that he does not realize he is being disrespectful.
5. He will not apologize. Even though his viewers call him out on something offensive or disrespectful, he will not apologize. Again, I think his desire to increase his content overshadows common ethics in vlogging.
I think this video, where he collaborates with Tim Lee, will show what I'm trying to say. This was bound to happen and a large portion of his viewers were not happy with his behavior. If you read the comments that followed the video you will see that it actually changed his future behavior in his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZjaVtgyEo&t=695s
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i find tim lee SUPER annoying
but some of that is because i have a super annoying friend with the last name lee that looks and acts exatly the same...
I find him boring, which is why like All You Can Vegas, we just watch his Vegas or Taiwan vids because they apply to us.
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i find tim lee SUPER annoying
but some of that is because i have a super annoying friend with the last name lee that looks and acts exatly the same...
In that particular video, Tim did apologize and acknowledged that the scripted antics went a bit too far. So, he also was complicit in what the content of the video shows.
There were two comments made by Danny the Medic in the COMMENTS section of this video where he posted under another channel that he has. He mentioned that he will not apologize whatsoever because he did not do anything wrong.
This brought another uproar among not only Danny's viewers but Tim's viewers also, where they mentioned that Tim should not feature Danny in any of his future videos. Some of Tim's viewers even threatened to unsubscribe and unfollow him.
Danny's comments have since been deleted. But the comments on his rudeness and disrespect continued.
Like CMO mentioned, some people felt that the others are over-reacting. It was all in fun.
However if I may, I would like to point out one part that Danny said @ 10:57 of the video: "Let me drive you back to CIVILIZATION".
For Tim and Danny to choose to act this way toward Filipino food while their Chinese ethnic foods also have it's share of "questionable" cuisine is beyond me. If anything, make fun of your own culture.
Anyway, I thanked Tim for acknowledging that their intentions went a bit too far. I mentioned to him that he is partly to blame since it is his channel and under his control.
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In that particular video, Tim did apologize and acknowledged that the scripted antics went a bit too far. So, he also was complicit in what the content of the video shows.
There were two comments made by Danny the Medic in the COMMENTS section of this video where he posted under another channel that he has. He mentioned that he will not apologize whatsoever because he did not do anything wrong.
This brought another uproar among not only Danny's viewers but Tim's viewers also, where they mentioned that Tim should not feature Danny in any of his future videos. Some of Tim's viewers even threatened to unsubscribe and unfollow him.
Danny's comments have since been deleted. But the comments on his rudeness and disrespect continued.
Like CMO mentioned, some people felt that the others are over-reacting. It was all in fun.
However if I may, I would like to point out one part that Danny said @ 10:57 of the video: "Let me drive you back to CIVILIZATION".
For Tim and Danny to choose to act this way toward Filipino food while their Chinese ethnic foods also have it's share of "questionable" cuisine is beyond me. If anything, make fun of your own culture.
Anyway, I thanked Tim for acknowledging that their intentions went a bit too far. I mentioned to him that he is partly to blame since it is his channel and under his control.
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"Just let it go".
Yes, I'm working on it. ;D
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Just my POV, the fact that Danny didn't apologize and stated that he won't, I have more respect for him. I mean, he still likes to CCW a revolver, so he lost some there. lol
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/8-las-vegas-hotels-are-shutting-down-midweek/vi-AA1AQIB5?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=690216a902624b2bbe874e92c8943184&ei=9
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/8-las-vegas-hotels-are-shutting-down-midweek/vi-AA1AQIB5?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=690216a902624b2bbe874e92c8943184&ei=9
Interesting video. It looks like it was released only hours ago yet it starts by talking about the Mirage planning to close it's casino and hotel. The Mirage is nothing but dirt. There's nothing there. But construction.
Then talks about the buffets and the Cosmopolitan doing the cafeteria style. That happened during the pandemic.
I dunno. If that's what the vegas landscape will be starting next January I'm glad I'm going late December.
Might be my goodbye trip to an old friend.
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We stayed at Mirage once. It was precovid and the place was empty. I don't remember when, but back then we usually went after Memorial Day weekend. And it was a sausage fest. So I can see why they sold to Hard Rock as they weren't making much money. We only stayed there because at that time, Palazzo wasn't giving us comps yet as we didn't play there at all. At that time, we used the My Vegas rewards for rooms, but still had to pay out of pocket. We also stayed at Planet Hollywood at that time.
We enjoy YellowProductions vids. I remember 1 vid he was walking from Wynn to Resorts World and was being yelled at by a crazy guy. We also watch his Asia vid, esp the Taiwan ones.
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My friend is in Vegas last week. He said that the places he normally needs a RSVP to eat, he can just walk in without waiting. He goes every 2 months and stays at Aria. 1 place he mentioned was Din Tai Fung that always has a 20 min wait for walk ins. A few days ago, none. Maybe people are avoiding more also due to the F1 starting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOoQNGDWMjY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSrO9IG6ug4
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To address the 90,000 rooms being empty in Vegas:
The CEO's admit that they are catering to the higher end Vegas visitor (the whales).
And they don't want the "savvy" gambler/visitors. These are the experienced visitors that know the best odds on games, know the player programs and how to take advantage of them, know the games that has the lowest house edge, etc. etc.
But I think they were still banking on the "newbie" Vegas visitors. These are the clueless, come of age people that don't know any better and just want to have a great time. They don't know anything about which games to play or which slots have better pay-outs. And they don't know or care that that bottle of beer they bought for $11 cost only $3 a couple of years ago.
I believe these are the people the CEO's were hoping to fill those empty rooms left by the more savvy players. These people will be willing to pay the resort fees, parking fees, and $50 burgers and $26 waters that are now defining the Strip.
Problem is, we live in the social media age. Where information is shared and available in a microsecond. People are sharing and in that sharing is valuable information and experiences being absorbed by the newbies prior to them visiting Vegas.
Maybe the CEO's overlooked this aspect and now the "newbies" are also informed about the rip-offs waiting for them in Vegas.
And they too, are not coming.
I just can't see how the CEO's and their cohorts can just bank on the whales alone.
Whales don't occupy regular rooms, don't eat at McD's and the like, and won't be seen dead at the Food Halls, what few buffets are left, and the ABC's and Walgreens that dot the landscape of the Strip.
The whales will look around, see all the empty places and say "F*ck this, this is boring, I'm going somewhere else......"
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To address the 90,000 rooms being empty in Vegas:
The CEO's admit that they are catering to the higher end Vegas visitor (the whales).
And they don't want the "savvy" gambler/visitors. These are the experienced visitors that know the best odds on games, know the player programs and how to take advantage of them, know the games that has the lowest house edge, etc. etc.
But I think they were still banking on the "newbie" Vegas visitors. These are the clueless, come of age people that don't know any better and just want to have a great time. They don't know anything about which games to play or which slots have better pay-outs. And they don't know or care that that bottle of beer they bought for $11 cost only $3 a couple of years ago.
I believe these are the people the CEO's were hoping to fill those empty rooms left by the more savvy players. These people will be willing to pay the resort fees, parking fees, and $50 burgers and $26 waters that are now defining the Strip.
Problem is, we live in the social media age. Where information is shared and available in a microsecond. People are sharing and in that sharing is valuable information and experiences being absorbed by the newbies prior to them visiting Vegas.
Maybe the CEO's overlooked this aspect and now the "newbies" are also informed about the rip-offs waiting for them in Vegas.
And they too, are not coming.
I just can't see how the CEO's and their cohorts can just bank on the whales alone.
Whales don't occupy regular rooms, don't eat at McD's and the like, and won't be seen dead at the Food Halls, what few buffets are left, and the ABC's and Walgreens that dot the landscape of the Strip.
The whales will look around, see all the empty places and say "F*ck this, this is boring, I'm going somewhere else......"
this is the path Hawaiinis taking. We want "eco" tourists..the so-called high end tourists. On top of tjat we want tourists to "give back" i.e. plant taro etc. Yeah, how many people want to do labor whike on vacay?!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np-OYqY1MlI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np-OYqY1MlI
Maybe on the Strip I might be considered riff-raff.
Downtown, at the Cal I might be a mini-whale. Or at best a very fat goldfish.
Maybe. :rofl:
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The issue is "whales" want bigger rooms and not your standard 250sq foot one. then the companies have various casinos for different clientel. A whale won't usually stay at Excalibur, but instead NYNY at min.
It comes down to diersifying and knowing your clientel. The casinos pushed as hard as they could and alienated many. This resulted in months in not a year of loss income from these people. Now they're trying to get them back, which would take time too.
I remember when Summer was slow, so they made summer specials during summer. But they did it too late as many people book vacays months in advance due to requesting time off from work. This is their mindset, thinking of "what can we get away with". The majority demographic that would take this are the weekend drivers coming in from CA or so on last minute decisions.
All those emptry rooms, keep in mind 2 casinos are missing. So it would be even more.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rcrQHqCT3VE
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My daughter is a teacher and keeps in touch with her former students. 2 of her former students are in Vegas right now.
Stuck at the airport. :( Their flights have been canceled and the airlines are working to get them home.
Plus they said most of the places they went to eat at was junk. Overpriced and one buffet they went to seemed to have food that was either from the day before or sitting under the heat lamp too long.
Moral of the story: Don't eat at buffets since visitor count is down, the food will not be refreshed as often. :rofl:
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My daughter is a teacher and keeps in touch with her former students. 2 of her former students are in Vegas right now.
Stuck at the airport. :( Their flights have been canceled and the airlines are working to get them home.
Plus they said most of the places they went to eat at was junk. Overpriced and one buffet they went to seemed to have food that was either from the day before or sitting under the heat lamp too long.
Moral of the story: Don't eat at buffets since visitor count is down, the food will not be refreshed as often. :rofl:
I tried the MGM buffet years ago, and I was completely underwhelmed. Seemed most were there for the crab legs, which meant a 20-30 minute wait for yours if the Fuller Family put their order in ahead of you. The rest of the food was so-so, nothing to write home about. The price back then was not cheap, so I'm guessing it's not gotten better.
The Main St Station had a wide variety, but again, the quality didn't blow my socks off. But, if you left hungry, it's your own fault. Cost was surprisingly high for downtown, but still affordable if you don't intend to eat again the rest of the day! I usually used a comp, and one time it was a New Year's Eve party i was invited to from The Cal.
The best IMO was the Fremont Hotel's Friday Seafood Buffet. Super variety, good to excellent quality, fresh and plentiful. Cost was a few bucks if you had the Boyd's food coupon. If not, it was still affordable and a great value. Comp's were made for these types of restaurants. You get to enter through a shorter line than the riffraff ( >:D), and you get excellent service since the wait staff knows you're a preferred guest.
My problem is I'm not interested in eating until I'm in pain. So, the amount of food for my dollar isn't the great value it used to be.
i think it was Golden Gate, but might have been 4 Queens, where I went to ask about the buffet. They had stopped the buffet and turned it into kind of a cafeteria type thing. Go through the line, pick what you like, and they charge per item.
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My daughter is a teacher and keeps in touch with her former students. 2 of her former students are in Vegas right now.
Stuck at the airport. :( Their flights have been canceled and the airlines are working to get them home.
Plus they said most of the places they went to eat at was junk. Overpriced and one buffet they went to seemed to have food that was either from the day before or sitting under the heat lamp too long.
Moral of the story: Don't eat at buffets since visitor count is down, the food will not be refreshed as often. :rofl:
At least they got delayed on the way back and not when going.
there are only 2 buffets on the strip worth it's cost. Bacchanal and Wynn. All others are way overpriced.
The moral of the story is watch reviews before going. Or ask friends who are regulars. I guess many have old vegas in their mind still.
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Wynn is up 10% and in general the strip is down 6% gaming revenue. Wynn's room occupancy was down. What this means is that they know their market. THey stated they were not trying to fill rooms, so no lower pricing or comps to not their ideal market. Seems like they learned from covid reopening as when they and Palazzo/Venetian gave free rooms to lower income people, they got lower income problems. Like more fights on the casino floors. Palaz/Ven were the first to revoke giving comps to this demographic, followed shortly by Wynn.
So Wynn's statement about not lowering room prices makes sense.
At least Wynn gives free parking to hotel guest. Most do not. Wynn's snacks/drinks avaiable in their rooms also is lower than other hotels on the strip. I mean, they're still much higher than Walgreens, but not $25 for a bottle of water.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-XHphxOI_g
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-XHphxOI_g
He's doing the vid for clicks. All the areas he's showing typically are dead.
The areas surrounding Fremont st is never busy, even precovid. Fremont st itself doesn't pick up until the sun goes down.
Fashion Show Mall also is typically empty like how he showed. Even precovid.
The area infront Palazzo is also usually empty like that as it isn't a high traffic area.
The area in front the LINQ,Harrahs, Flamingo is like that since Covid. The days of shoulder to shoulder of people in that high traffic area hasn't returned. This is the new "normal".
The Bellagio area did seem emptier than normal though as thats a high traffic area at all times of day.
IMO, he's jumping on the band wagon as Vegas has been like this since Covid and it's been 4 years now.
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Lot of locals and of course visitors are saying: F----F1!!! :rofl:
I cracked up at one of the comments below the video: "I can't imagine why someone would sit in a stand and watch a car zip by". :rofl:
During set up and break down times locals living in nearby condos report 45 minutes just to get out of their fricken parking garages. Nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqlsj-k58PU
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Went to vegas this past week.
The bright idea fairy came and decided to make the entry to the strip, 1 way in and 1 way out. Instead of the years prior 2 directional roads.
Spoke to some workers who had to travel to the strip and it took abt 4 hours. Leaving took only 30 mins, but thats at 5am.
Tips are unknown yet as my sources worked a banquet style, which means auto grat that shows up in the next paycheck. And auto grat at 1 location i know of wasnt 18% like how u see on a restaurant bill for a part over 8. It was 5%. But 5% of a $50,000 table can add up. IMO it should be 15%.
It was much busier than last thanksgiving. Last one it was mainly indians and middle easterns. This year it was everyone. The strip was shoulder to shoulder of people. Havent seen it like this since precovid. Lots of families (kids) also.
Casinos werent as busy. That was abt the same as last year. I think the families who come dont gamble very much thats why.
Caesars on a friday night abt 7pm was dead on the gaming floor. Abt 3 people playing craps, they even had $15 tables. BJ had maybe 30% tables full. Slots were 30% full at best.
Compare this to venetian who had 3 full tables of craps players ($25min). Abt 80% BJ tables full, abt 75% slots full.
This was the 1st time in years that the venetian didnt have $15 craps in the day time. All week it was $25.
I hit the below. Was playing $3 spins, but decided to switch to $10 spins. Hit this on the 1st spin of $10.
Car traffic was the same as last year, even with the F1 stuff up still.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20251203/6c5b1a6ce337287251a8aeef380eda76.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuIhs7h1XuU
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Primm used to be a great place to visit. If the Strip is deemed "dead", Primm is deader than dead, lol!
My first visit there, I played craps as a newbie in the Primm casino. Didn't know what da hell I was doing but only knew how to play passline and make come bets.
Ended up clearing $800 profit at a $5 table.
Sad to see and hear places like this die.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Wor_zBrzJfo
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There might still be hope for the Strip:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cd65mf843Ds
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YTD
Vegas incoming tourism down 8% or 3 million visitors compared to last year. But gaming on strip is up about 1% from last year and about even downtown.
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Follow up to my friend who worked a banquet style this F1 instead of just a regular bartender type. The "banquet" style has tables you can buy and a automatic 5% gratuity. So a table for 2 by the window and it cost $50,000.
She made this time about $3K, which is much better than the last 2 F1's where she only made like $40 and $70 for each years entire F1 weekend.
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Well, I just got back from my Vegas trip yesterday.
Had a lot of fun. Avoided the Strip entirely. And for someone with my age, preferences, and disdain for lack of value, I didn't miss anything by not going there.
Stayed and played Downtown where things are more relaxed, prices are more reasonable, and people and casino employees are much nicer and friendlier. Nothing fancy or pretty or mind-blowing but things and conditions that speak to my heart.
Rented a car and visited local casinos, checked out the Bass Pro Shop. The firearms and ammunition section were really busy. They set up comfortable seatings for people waiting to be served by the clerks and I think it's a "pick and number" type of system. Lots of people buying firearms. And there were lots to choose from! Ammunition was displayed right out on the floor, from cases to smaller packs ranging in all calibers.
Really makes you think how different a free state lives vs. a state where banana trees grow all over the place and politicians are more concerned about criminals than law-abiding citizens. (hint hint) guess which state I'm talking about. :rofl:
I'm diabetic and I really let myself go this trip. Sometimes I forgot to take my meds and I drank lots of Coronas with lime, (only time I drink is when I am in Vegas) and ate things I shouldn't be eating in excess. Played at the craps tables for hours, one session 8 hours straight, then slept 2 hours then played another session for 7 hrs. straight. My ankles and calves were swollen from the hours of just standing, refusing (out of stupid pride) to accept a chair that the dealers were offering me.
Now it's time to get back to my regimen. Watch my diet, not drinking, and resume exercising. I did go to the hotel's small fitness room and did some dumbell presses and jumped on the treadmill.
I was already 10 lbs overweight when I left for Vegas. I gained 4 lbs. there.
Lot of work to do. Another New Year. At my age it's one day at a time and being thankful to wake up and see another day. :thumbsup:
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For nov, thats a major month due to F1, tourist were down almost 10%.
Like i said, people avoiding nov due to the F1 BS.
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Kurt Russell made ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK.
Then made ESCAPE FROM L.A.
Now the old fart has to make ESCAPE FROM LAS VEGAS.
This time he'll get around using a scooter.
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Kurt Russell made ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK.
Then made ESCAPE FROM L.A.
Now the old fart has to make ESCAPE FROM LAS VEGAS.
This time he'll get around using a scooter.
He made a vid months ago and mentioned the overcrowded classrooms. He said 20 or so is "overcrowded. When I was in school, we had 30 minimum.
Also, NV is ranked like 47/50 for worst education system. But HI is 43 or so, so same same.
I also didn't know about the 3rd intake pipe at Mead. So that's a good thing.
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https://neon.reviewjournal.com/dining-out/famed-las-vegas-hawaiian-restaurant-closed-by-health-department-3328122/
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https://neon.reviewjournal.com/dining-out/famed-las-vegas-hawaiian-restaurant-closed-by-health-department-3328122/
12 violations. Odd, since they received an A rating last February after a follow-up inspection from January's B rating.
Looks like they were lapsing after every "A" into a "B", correcting enough violations to get a follow-up "A", then lapsing on the next routine inspection.
https://www.yelp.com/inspections/aloha-specialties-las-vegas
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That place is known for their ox tail soup. But M-TH, it's from 11pm. Then weekends it's from 11am.
There's also a place in there that sells Molokai Sweet Bread.
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That place is known for their ox tail soup. But M-TH, it's from 11pm. Then weekends it's from 11am.
There's also a place in there that sells Molokai Sweet Bread.
Same soup which the Market Street Cafe serves, I'm sure. There's a long line when that soup is written on the Cafe's "Specials" board.
Cal's World Famous Oxtail Soup Our 9th Island Favorite!
available daily 11:00pm – 6:00am; braised oxtail, garden vegetables, straw
mushrooms, steamed rice ginger, cilantro, savory broth (valid with dinner
coupon plus $5)
https://thecal.boydgaming.com/dine/market-street-cafe
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Wow. That is sad. :(
The place is almost always busy. Their prices have gone up but that's understandable. But their portions remain ridiculously generous.
Funny they got cited for health demerits that caused them to shut down. When I was there at the end of last year I was getting upset stomachs from eating food from Market St. Cafe which is right under them on the casino level.
So much that I started eating at Aloha Specialties, even though I had to pay for my food there. I had a coupon meal book comp for Market St. but was getting upset stomachs every time I ate something there.
Go figure. Maybe the food at Aloha Specialties tasted better because they don't wash their hands or wipe down the prep counters...... :shake: :rofl:
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Wow. That is sad. :(
The place is almost always busy. Their prices have gone up but that's understandable. But their portions remain ridiculously generous.
Funny they got cited for health demerits that caused them to shut down. When I was there at the end of last year I was getting upset stomachs from eating food from Market St. Cafe which is right under them on the casino level.
So much that I started eating at Aloha Specialties, even though I had to pay for my food there. I had a coupon meal book comp for Market St. but was getting upset stomachs every time I ate something there.
Go figure. Maybe the food at Aloha Specialties tasted better because they don't wash their hands or wipe down the prep counters...... :shake: :rofl:
Those food coupons are good at other Boyd's properties.
Aliante Casino + Hotel + Spa
The Orleans Hotel & Casino
Gold Coast Hotel & Casino
Suncoast Hotel & Casino
Sam's Town Las Vegas
Cannery Casino Hotel
California Hotel Casino
Fremont Hotel & Casino
Main Street Station Casino Brewery Hotel
"Our 4-night packages include 4 breakfasts, 4 lunches, 3 dinners,
and 1 specialty coupon. Similarly, our 5-night packages include 5
breakfasts, 5 lunches, 4 dinners, and 1 specialty coupon. You can
use the meal coupons to purchase daily specials at participating
restaurants located in Boyd's downtown hotels and casinos. In
addition, the specialty coupon can be redeemed for a prime rib or
buffet dinner at participating restaurants, subject to the terms
mentioned on the coupon."
https://www.boydvacationshawaii.com/important-information/frequently-asked-questions
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Those food coupons are good at other Boyd's properties.
Aliante Casino + Hotel + Spa
The Orleans Hotel & Casino
Gold Coast Hotel & Casino
Suncoast Hotel & Casino
Sam's Town Las Vegas
Cannery Casino Hotel
California Hotel Casino
Fremont Hotel & Casino
Main Street Station Casino Brewery Hotel
"Our 4-night packages include 4 breakfasts, 4 lunches, 3 dinners,
and 1 specialty coupon. Similarly, our 5-night packages include 5
breakfasts, 5 lunches, 4 dinners, and 1 specialty coupon. You can
use the meal coupons to purchase daily specials at participating
restaurants located in Boyd's downtown hotels and casinos. In
addition, the specialty coupon can be redeemed for a prime rib or
buffet dinner at participating restaurants, subject to the terms
mentioned on the coupon."
https://www.boydvacationshawaii.com/important-information/frequently-asked-questions
I did use my food coupon book to eat at the Main St. Buffet. I think that's a good deal due to the variety the buffet offers, however the food was just typical middle tier basic food items besides the prime rib. There was no crab legs while I was there. But still a good deal. :thumbsup:
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When I turned 21, my parents took me via Vacations Hawaii and Stardust was where we stayed. We only used the meal voucher once at the Cal's 24/7 cafe becuase we wanted to XP the different food venues Vegas has to offer. We went to Mon Ami Gambi in Paris and I got to see Rod Stewart there. He was with a tall, younger blonde with big tiddy's.
The best memory I have was playing craps at Sdust at 3am by myself. I didn't know how to play, but the dealers explained as I bet. It was a $5 table and that was a lot as my gambling budget for the entire trip was $300. My dad decided to join me cause he said "how often do I get to play craps with my son". He then went on a god roll for like 45 mins. My $5 passline bet with $5 odds at first, and $5 on the place bets turned into $700 when he was done. By the time we left the table, we were still up a lot and when we went to the room, the sun was out.
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I also like to experience different foods when in Vegas. This particular trip we tried different types of Dim Sum from different restaurants. I also like to try all kinds of pan roasts from different oyster bars.
I try to visit a different sushi restaurant whenever we visit Vegas. This trip we went to Umiya Sushi next to the Palms Hotel and Casino. Good stuff.
I used my Aloha Coupon book for basically "snack food". Just before heading up to the room we would go use the coupons to get Saimin or Won Ton Min from Market St. Cafe. Or maybe a Burger and Fries or a Loco Moco.
I did utilize the "Specialty Coupon" to get a Prime Rib Meal that also comes with a cherries jubilee dessert. It's always a hit and miss thing as far as how good the prime rib is. This trip the Prime Rib looked so good I actually took a picture of it before diving in on it.
Sadly, as good as it looks, it was far from good, LOL. Sad to say I bet it was previously frozen then heated up. The texture was off.
And then a couple of hours later I had to do a serious doo-doo....... ::) :rofl:
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The best memory I have was playing craps at Sdust at 3am by myself. I didn't know how to play, but the dealers explained as I bet.
Craps players will never forget their first experience playing craps.
It was a $5 table and that was a lot as my gambling budget for the entire trip was $300. My dad decided to join me cause he said "how often do I get to play craps with my son". He then went on a god roll for like 45 mins.
And our Best memories are the ones where we won a lot of money for the very first time. After that, we get hooked by the craps gods and we chase that memory that unfortunately, doesn't come as often as we like.
Glad you have a wonderful memory of playing craps with your Dad.
For me, my Dad was watching from above, probably smiling and cracking up laughing......
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If I'm in Vegas to mainly gamble -- as opposed to gun training classes, expo's, and shows with family -- I can be up for 30-35 hours the first night, after that, it's a cycle of stay up until you need sleep, catch a 4-5 hour nap, then a shower and back at it.
When i eat, it's usually breakfast no matter what time I wake up. i get water, coffee and juice at the tables (staying away from alcohol while playing), and maybe grab a quick bite at another property as I wander around looking for a hot table. Krispy Kreme is a must at least once during and again at the end of the trip.
I'll make time for the Freemont seafood buffet on Friday night, and maybe Hooter's for some delicious hot wings. i really enjoyed The Pink Taco at The Hard Rock Casino for my first meal in LV in the evening just to kick off the gaming. Really got me in the Vegas mood.
Basically, I'm not there for the food, but I'll ask for a comp ticket wherever I'm playing for awhile just for variety. i figure it's the least they owe me no matter if I'm up or down at the time.
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Vegas of the past. Hooters hotel and the restaurant in Oyo Hotel is now gone and so is Hard Rock. We went to Hard Rock once and ate at the sushi place inside. Our waiter was from HI and hooked us up big time. Then we played craps with some Canadians and it was shit talking the entire time between the US and Canada. Super fun, even Mrs. CMO got involved. Had a guy rolling 12's all day. And Mrs. CMO loves the field, so she made out good.
We thoguht we could walk to Hard Rock, but my coworker who used to live in Vegas told us not to.
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I never noticed it before but Downtown has a decent amount of higher end Steakhouses. I've been to Hugo's Cellar at the Four Queens twice and it was a nice experience and decent food.
We went to the Redwood Grill at the Cal on Christmas Day for dinner. It was crowded, noisy, and they sat us in a not too cozy seating area. I was hoping for a quiet, intimate booth or something but the experience was junk. The food was ok. Don't think I'll visit anytime soon or ever.
But aside from Fremont Casino and the Golden Gate, I think every property Downtown has a Steakhouse. I will definitely plan in the future to visit some of them.
I find I don't care much for the newer Food Halls popping up all over the place. I guess I'm from the older generation that prefers simple foods. The Food Halls offer stuff that is unrecognizable in my opinion, LOL! Lots of FUSION CONFUSION. :rofl:
I'm from the umami generation. Let the ingredients speak for themselves. Not smother them with sauces that kill the original flavor. Zig Zag different color sauces are not my cup of tea. ;D
And I'm a nigiri sushi guy. Don't care for the rolls and other newer concoctions. :thumbsup:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sItrLz9zlys
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I never noticed it before but Downtown has a decent amount of higher end Steakhouses. I've been to Hugo's Cellar at the Four Queens twice and it was a nice experience and decent food.
We went to the Redwood Grill at the Cal on Christmas Day for dinner. It was crowded, noisy, and they sat us in a not too cozy seating area. I was hoping for a quiet, intimate booth or something but the experience was junk. The food was ok. Don't think I'll visit anytime soon or ever.
But aside from Fremont Casino and the Golden Gate, I think every property Downtown has a Steakhouse. I will definitely plan in the future to visit some of them.
I find I don't care much for the newer Food Halls popping up all over the place. I guess I'm from the older generation that prefers simple foods. The Food Halls offer stuff that is unrecognizable in my opinion, LOL! Lots of FUSION CONFUSION. :rofl:
I'm from the umami generation. Let the ingredients speak for themselves. Not smother them with sauces that kill the original flavor. Zig Zag different color sauces are not my cup of tea. ;D
And I'm a nigiri sushi guy. Don't care for the rolls and other newer concoctions. :thumbsup:
Almost every casino has a higher end steak house. It's a Vegas thing. The only diff between them all are the sides. Steak is steak at high end steak houses.
We went to the Via Via Food Hall in Venetian during thanksgiving. The burger place was good, but nothing worth going out of your way for a burger. But the fried bologna sandwitch was worth a try as you can't find that anywhere. The pizza place was average, Buddy V's in Harrahs taste better for sicilian peperoni. Didn't try Ivan's Ramen, but it looked lame. Mrs. CMO tried the sandwitch place that has locations offstrip and she didn't care for it. IDK what she got.
The best food hall IMO is Resorts World. Clay Pot rice is good and so is the Mischos Taco's. They even have aqua fresca at Mischo's. The sushi place in there is average at best, but their grilled salmon musubi is awesome. The Pho place is good and above average.
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The best food hall IMO is Resorts World. Clay Pot rice is good and so is the Mischos Taco's. They even have aqua fresca at Mischo's. The sushi place in there is average at best, but their grilled salmon musubi is awesome. The Pho place is good and above average.
My wife loves Clay Pot rice. I'll make a point to visit Resorts World next trip. I also want to try that Genting Palace buffet. I heard small, expensive, but good.
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Yeah, gotta know when to say when. The casino is definitely not your friend. My BIL tends to think so.
Likes to tell us how the casinos are so friendly towards him and the perks they give him. I do the quick mental math and secretly smile, knowing he paid for his perks many times over.
One time he approached the casino host office to ask for some perks. They treated him quite rudely (he said) when they told him YOU DON'T QUALIFY.
He was all butt hurt but I know this guy. It's all how you ask, and they will respond politely either yes or no. I know how he can be demanding and obnoxious at times. It's in his DNA. :rofl:
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My wife loves Clay Pot rice. I'll make a point to visit Resorts World next trip. I also want to try that Genting Palace buffet. I heard small, expensive, but good.
Keepin on topic, that place when RW opened used hot clay pots, so the rice continues to sear as you eat. But people began stealing them. So now they're just platic. But food is still good, it just lost that slight seared crush as you ate.
The Genting buffet looks good too. It's on our list of places to try.
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Keepin on topic, that place when RW opened used hot clay pots, so the rice continues to sear as you eat. But people began stealing them. So now they're just platic. But food is still good, it just lost that slight seared crush as you ate.
I remember when Tim Hortons switched to paper cups instead of the iconic mugs back in the 1990s. That’s about the time civilization started going downhill.
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Keepin on topic, that place when RW opened used hot clay pots, so the rice continues to sear as you eat. But people began stealing them. So now they're just platic. But food is still good, it just lost that slight seared crush as you ate.
The Genting buffet looks good too. It's on our list of places to try.
What's wrong with people. The clay pots are part of the culture and tradition, not to mention the sear that it creates with the rice that is hard to replicate, maybe cast iron would be a substitute but yeah, definitely not plastic. :grrr:
I still will put this place on my bucket list, along with Genting Palace. I also saw a short video of China Mama at Palace Station. Another place I haven't visited and would like to on my next trip.
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Interesting.
Next time you go to Vegas try and get a layover in Vancouver
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vegas-casino-owner-will-accept-canadian-dollars-par-bid-lure-northerns-back-sin-city
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Derek Stevens seems like a cool guy. I wish there were more owners like him in Vegas and little or no corporate Vegas like MGM Resorts and Caesars.
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What's wrong with people. The clay pots are part of the culture and tradition, not to mention the sear that it creates with the rice that is hard to replicate, maybe cast iron would be a substitute but yeah, definitely not plastic. :grrr:
I still will put this place on my bucket list, along with Genting Palace. I also saw a short video of China Mama at Palace Station. Another place I haven't visited and would like to on my next trip.
We visited it a few months ago. Way overpriced for a palace station restaurant. Chinese food strip prices. I wonder how much cheaper their off strip place is.
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We visited it a few months ago. Way overpriced for a palace station restaurant. Chinese food strip prices. I wonder how much cheaper their off strip place is.
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We did go to Chinatown on Spring Mountain Rd. and tried the dim sum at one of the more popular Chinese restaurants there. I forgot the name. They open at 9am.
For some reason we figured we'd better get there early, before 9am and wait in line just to make sure. Turned out it was a good idea. We were second in line and by the time we were seated, the whole restaurant was full. And it's a pretty decent sized restaurant. Aside from one other table it looked like the rest of the restaurant were filled with local Chinese residents.
And yes, the price for the dim sum is so much more reasonable.
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i saw a video last week that said the palace station one is the only one with dim sum and a liquor license too...
We visited it a few months ago. Way overpriced for a palace station restaurant. Chinese food strip prices. I wonder how much cheaper their off strip place is.
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Last visit to RW was in May for Memorial day. We were there on the Sunday before at 2pm. Empty casino. I was the only one on the craps table, 3 card poker, and ultimate holdem. Slots, maybe had about 7 people playing in the entire place.
BJ table was 2-3 people on the open 2-3 tables they had. High limit area was empty.
So a dying casino.
The food court since covid has been half open, so if you go keep that in mind. The only places open all the time are the clay pot, taco's, pho, and musubi/sushi place. Which is fine cause the other places are average.
Mischos Tacos has 2 stands on RW. 1 inside the food hall and 1 outside. The inside one also has aqua fresca which I enjoy. Both their salsas are very good, green and red. Their elote corn in a cup sucks, so don't bother with that.
RW is a nice place to visit, but I'd never stay there as the gaming energy is low/dead.
The vegan place has a buffet taht looks pretty good. So does Genting Palace.
How I know RW is struggling, I got comp 3 nights. From the opening, they've been very stingy on comps compared to other properties. I didn't play too much this past May, but got a 3 day comp for the first time. At most, I would get like a 1 day comp, which we used once to try them out a few years ago.
IDK what their hold is on slots, but everyone we talk to says RW is super tight. And based on our XP over the years of going there. Whicih would make sense as they need to generate more revenue since they opened during covid and their target market isn't coming (chinese from China).
The stores open retail are dead. The only store we visit is the F1 store. Mrs. CMO bought a $40 purple hat.
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I watch videos of RW.
Beautiful casino but yeah, that place is empty.
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i saw a video last week that said the palace station one is the only one with dim sum and a liquor license too...
Or go to the slot and get a free drink. It will only cost you $200 in play.
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The stores open retail are dead. The only store we visit is the F1 store. Mrs. CMO bought a $40 purple hat.
I miss seeing her on range days, it was always interesting to see what other purple accessories she acquired since the previous shoot.
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I miss seeing her on range days, it was always interesting to see what other purple accessories she acquired since the previous shoot.
Mom life.
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Well this is disturbing
Federal agents just raided a Chinese Communist Party biolab in the East Valley. Apparently it was connected to another one that was recently discovered in Fresno.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/02/02/fbi-search-warrant-leads-possible-biological-lab-discovery-las-vegas-home/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=organicclicks&tbref=hp
If Vegas gets attacked by a bio weapon then we have roughly 6.5 hours until the next direct flight brings it here.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/07/31/illegal-lab-california-infectious-mice/70502532007/
Well this is disturbing
Federal agents just raided a Chinese Communist Party biolab in the East Valley. Apparently it was connected to another one that was recently discovered in Fresno.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2026/02/02/fbi-search-warrant-leads-possible-biological-lab-discovery-las-vegas-home/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=organicclicks&tbref=hp
If Vegas gets attacked by a bio weapon then we have roughly 6.5 hours until the next direct flight brings it here.
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So many places in Vegas to easily deploy a biological weapon.
Fremont St. Experience under the Canopy would be a perfect place.
Bellagio Conservatory would be another one.
Resorts World or Fontainebleu? No. :rofl:
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So many places in Vegas to easily deploy a biological weapon.
Fremont St. Experience under the Canopy would be a perfect place.
Bellagio Conservatory would be another one.
Resorts World or Fontainebleu? No. :rofl:
You're missing the obvious targets, like the airport and convention centers.
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You're missing the obvious targets, like the airport and convention centers.
And def not during shot show as there may be chemical/bio hazard meters on display at a table.
Or let it go inside the air intake, like who they did at the Wuhan market...#nothingisaconspiracy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkWBHYQay8Y
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It sounds like the regular consumers got tapped out so they shifted their target market to the high rollers
The fact that the high rollers are cutting back on discretionary spending could mean that another 2008 is right around the corner.
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It sounds like the regular consumers got tapped out so they shifted their target market to the high rollers
The fact that the high rollers are cutting back on discretionary spending could mean that another 2008 is right around the corner.
Thats what ive been saying. Upper middle income and high is their demographic.
But the middle and lower all add up. Thus the month after month less travelers and revenue.
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Precovid, no one was alllowed to film. Then post Covid, the casinos needed a way to get people to come and gamble. Letting people record themselves and upload to youtube or social media would entice others.
As covid ended, casinos slowly began removing this access. 1 reason was some were doing live streams and proxy betting on slots via group pulls, which is illegal. Proxy betting is when you give someone money to gamble for them. So imagine if you can live stream and now people from around the world can watch you play their money to keep you honest.
It also looked tacky on the casino floor wtih tons of video equipment set up. So they then limited it to hand held or 1 tripod.
Then casinos only allowed certain people as you had to "apply" to record yourself. Some said you can come when ever you want like El Cortez and others you had to make an appointment for a time slot.
Now Park MGM has an "influencer" room where people can play and record all they want withouth permission. Plaza has a livestream cameras set up in 1 section of slots and looks like blackjack. This isn't an influencer thing, but a live stream on Plaza's youtube channel. I was watching it on friday night and had about 6 people watching. The camera rotates from where the action is, at the time I was watching, it was on hte blackjack table and had 2 guys playing betting green chips ($25).
This shows how the industry is changing.
Youtubers I enjoy watching:
Bluff as he plays craps, BJ, baccarat, UTM roulette, slots at mainly el cortez.
Vegasmatt
Vegas low roller
Blackjack apprentice
Lucky Lee Gaming
Channels I can't stand
Dlucky
NG Slots
The big jackpot (possible sex offender and files cease and decist court papers for people who talk bad about him)
I used to watch All Casino Action until the main person Sarah stopped and her "husband" Victor took over as he's not entertaining.
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I used to watch All Casino Action until the main person Sarah stopped and her "husband" Victor took over as he's not entertaining.
I had two gripes against Victor.
#1 was the way he treated Sarah on camera. If he was that rude and condescending in public, I can only imagine what he's like to her in private.
#2 was his whining. The man needs a frigging statistician to follow him around. He complains he hasn't gotten a good hand in BJ the entire shoe, yet the first hand out was a BJ and 2 hands later he won his double down. He pretends to remember just the bad "stats" when he's losing, and he's just wrong. Then he throws out numbers like losing his hands 10 to 1. going back through the video, it might be 4 to 1 or 3 to 1. I used to chalk it up to just exaggeration for the content, but after awhile, it's obvious he's just whining and trying to justify it with bad math and the memory of a goldfish.
It's hard to stay sunny and positive when you're on a losing streak. I get it. But at least don't cry like you're the only one who can't win for losing.
I honestly think one of the worst aspects of recording for YT is the players tend to be at the table too long when losing just to get their minimum minutes of video for the session. Most people won't buy in time after time when losing. They walk away, try another table or game, or go grab lunch or take a nap. i've watched a $500 starting buy-in explode into the player buying in for $3000 trying to get a lucky streak going. Should have just walked away and considered the video session lost.
There's enough negativity going around. I don't need it on my YouTube entertainment subscriptions, too.
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My wife watches this guy whose channel is called "Jackpot Judo".
I don't watch slot videos. I used to watch craps videos. But lately I find them boring even though I play craps. It could be because I'm only watching, not playing.
Lots of AI videos out there in YT land. When the content creators use it to deceive the viewers, I will call them out for it.
But sometimes the content creator just posts AI videos that are obvious and made strictly for humor and entertainment. Some are extremely funny and a hoot to watch.
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Bluff is coming to Oahu 4/8/26 5-9pm at New Wave Night Market and is paying for all the food people buy.
He's a youtuber gambling channel. I'm gonna assume he's coming cause 1 of his cameraman/friend is from Oahu. Brandino moved to vegas after graduating high school here.
Bluff does drive thru tuesday where he gives profits to random drive thru workers. And philantrophy thursday where he gives his profits to causes/org's. Sometimes he spends the profit and buys goods for them instead.
With the allowing of filming, old Vegas couldn't do this.
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Bluffs event rescheduled to yesterday and had a big turnout. Prob rescheduled due to the weather coming. Nice to see people gave him and his crew lei's.
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saw on social media long line of cars trying to get to the night market...
Bluffs event rescheduled to yesterday and had a big turnout. Prob rescheduled due to the weather coming. Nice to see people gave him and his crew lei's.
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saw on social media long line of cars trying to get to the night market...
You should see his Xmas present event he had in Vegas. He's learning that he has a huge following and to try to factor parking and people flow in. He advised people to Uber to the even due to parking.
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I read that when Vegas was shutdown to Covid, it caused casinos to re-evaluate their buffets and how they lose money for the casino, but they make it up later when people play. It also provided an excuse to not re-open the buffets or keep them at the lower cost.
So one has to wonder if Gov Sisoulak didn't shut down Vegas due to Covid, would the casinos still have cheaper buffets? 1 could also argue that this was the downaward spiral to no free parking and higher table limits. FYI the govenor at the time is DNC. He also had a proclamation that Ivermectin (IIRC I think it was this med) was only to be given at a medical facility. Which means you have to drive to a doctor or hospital to take it.
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Bluffs event rescheduled to yesterday and had a big turnout. Prob rescheduled due to the weather coming. Nice to see people gave him and his crew lei's.
He spent about $90,000 feeding the people.
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Some properties are now doing "all inclusive" deals. Like how vacations hawaii, but minus the airfare.
MGM Hotels
Caesars properties
Circa
Resorts World (lame IMO)
Plaza
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Vegas was already expensive before the Iran War.
Wonder how the cab fares, Uber, and Air fares will be in the upcoming months.
And then there are the food prices since diesel fuel price doubled so it will affect restaurant and store food prices.
And of course everyone will expect an 85% tip.
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Vegas was already expensive before the Iran War.
Wonder how the cab fares, Uber, and Air fares will be in the upcoming months.
And then there are the food prices since diesel fuel price doubled so it will affect restaurant and store food prices.
And of course everyone will expect an 85% tip.
DNC politicians are blaming Trump fro no tourism due to his tariffs and higher gas prices. They leave out casino's trying to squeeze every dime out of their customers and how it's cheaper to go elsewhere now.
NV gets their gas from CA and the gas prices have slowly increasing prior to Iran due to CA shutting down some refinery's. But again, DNC politicians leave that out too.
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DNC politicians are blaming Trump fro no tourism due to his tariffs and higher gas prices. They leave out casino's trying to squeeze every dime out of their customers and how it's cheaper to go elsewhere now.
NV gets their gas from CA and the gas prices have slowly increasing prior to Iran due to CA shutting down some refinery's. But again, DNC politicians leave that out too.
Are you surprised?
Everyone -- president, governor, legislator, mayor, council member, etc. -- gets 100% of the blame by the other side of the aisle for anything that can be characterized as bad, and 0% of the credit for the good stuff.
There's almost no issue that involves exclusive unilateral decision making by the chief executive officer at most levels. The top boss establishes policies and objectives normally, and the people who report to him/her implement those things. Often it's the implementation that involves stupid laws, bad changes to services or just cost-cutting that hurst the public at large while keeping those making the decisions on track to wealth and personal exploitation of the "system."
If you're familiar with the Washington Monument Syndrome, you already know that it's not the person trying to cut the budget who is to blame for the pain and agony experienced by the citizenry. Fueling public outrage over policy decisions that were not to blame for the direct impact on the public (i.e. the gov't shutdown and food stamps/EBT stoppage) is how their opponents weaponize those decisions to be used in the next election.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBQ6ObjF3W8&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3D