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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: zippz on January 10, 2024, 10:46:24 PM
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Reminder not to drop the slide on a empty chamber to prevent wear and breakage. I used to manually put a round into the chamber and ease the slide forward onto it, and check for lock. But that can put pressure on the extractor as explained in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdsSJsNKU8
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do you think this also applies to rifles? ars, aks, etc?
people often manually load rounds into bolt action rifles through the ejection port. I wonder if that causes extra stress to their extractors?
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do you think this also applies to rifles? ars, aks, etc?
people often manually load rounds into bolt action rifles through the ejection port. I wonder if that causes extra stress to their extractors?
That's a good question. On pistols loaded from a magazine, the breach face is flat and the case rim slips under the extractor. On a AR15 or bolt action rifle, the bolt face has a rim that cradles the case rim, so the case rim has to go over the extractor when both fed through the magazine or round in the chamber.
Maybe it has to do with the amount of force applied. With a bolt action it's chambered relatively slow so less impact on the extractor. With semiauto handguns and rifles, it's a sudden impact when the slide/bolt is dropped. You could ease the slide/bolt forward on a chambered round to reduce stress on the extractor, but then you'd have to ensure it's in battery afterward.
Another issue with dropping the AR15 bolt on a chambered round is slam fires due to the floating firing pin, if you have out of spec firing pins and sensitive primers.
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I be dropping all day with my M45. Shit.
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Why am I only learning about this now?
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Why am I only learning about this now?
Me too. I thought all well made guns, relatively speaking, were indestructible.
Like Charles Bronson.
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Me too. I thought all well made guns, relatively speaking, were indestructible.
Like Charles Bronson.
I thought as long as you aren't doing it hundreds of times a day, everyday, you're fine.
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That's a good question. On pistols loaded from a magazine, the breach face is flat and the case rim slips under the extractor. On a AR15 or bolt action rifle, the bolt face has a rim that cradles the case rim, so the case rim has to go over the extractor when both fed through the magazine or round in the chamber.
Another issue with dropping the AR15 bolt on a chambered round is slam fires due to the floating firing pin, if you have out of spec firing pins and sensitive primers.
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I did this at a gun shop and I got ripped for it haha. I wa so embarrassed I ended up just buying the gun :rofl: :rofl: luckily it’s one of my favorites.
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From what I've read so far, it can damage or throw things out of alignment on tuned 1911's and some other guns. It could have additional wear parts on Glocks and other guns, but after many many repetitions.
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My firearms are tools. The "abuse" is primarily accelerated wear on wear items. Regular maintenance addresses that, at least for me. With multiple pistols, including backups, beater guns specifically for training, and other considerations. Albeit mostly Glocks. . .
He makes valid points, but very specific and specialized context. Even if I did have a Wilson Combat 1911, I'd shoot the hell out of it, and enjoy it. If it breaks, fit it.
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I did this at a gun shop and I got ripped for it haha. I wa so embarrassed I ended up just buying the gun :rofl: :rofl: luckily it’s one of my favorites.
Eugene used to comment and scold folks on handling 1911s. Don't drop hammer/dry fire, cock hammer before racking slide, etc.
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Eugene used to comment and scold folks on handling 1911s. Don't drop hammer/dry fire, cock hammer before racking slide, etc.
dumb
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I thought as long as you aren't doing it hundreds of times a day, everyday, you're fine.
I would think so too. Mas makes it seem as if 1911's are like pee wee Herman instead of Charles Bronson.
What good is a tool if you can't throw it around a bit. :rofl:
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I be dropping all day with my M45. Shit.
He was referring to high(er) end 1911. Not high end priced 1911s. . . O0
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where's that DAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNNNNN .gif from "Friday" when you need it...
He was referring to high(er) end 1911. Not high end priced 1911s. . . O0
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He was referring to high(er) end 1911. Not high end priced 1911s. . . O0
BBBUUURRRNNNNNNNN (Kelso from That 70's Show gif)
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My firearms are tools. The "abuse" is primarily accelerated wear on wear items. Regular maintenance addresses that, at least for me. With multiple pistols, including backups, beater guns specifically for training, and other considerations. Albeit mostly Glocks. . .
He makes valid points, but very specific and specialized context. Even if I did have a Wilson Combat 1911, I'd shoot the hell out of it, and enjoy it. If it breaks, fit it.
^^^This. This is why I refuse to spend over a certain limit for any firearm. Because then I would baby them and not want shoot it, get it dirty, or train with it due to worrying about scratches.
Good news is I don't have the "idiot mark" on the M45 yet, even though I'm not trying to avoid making it. Fuckem, snap em in.
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where's that DAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMNNNNNNN .gif from "Friday" when you need it...
BBBUUURRRNNNNNNNN (Kelso from That 70's Show gif)
bazinga
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^^^This. This is why I refuse to spend over a certain limit for any firearm. 1) Because then I would baby them and not want shoot it, get it dirty, or train with it due to worrying about scratches.
2) Good news is I don't have the "idiot mark" on the M45 yet, even though I'm not trying to avoid making it. Fuckem, snap em in.
1) In your defense, that's true. I've seen that for myself.
2) That's one thing about 1911s. I've seen light marks on some guns in shops.