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Tools and Uses => Firearms and Accessories => Topic started by: macsak on January 18, 2024, 11:00:33 AM

Title: new TRP
Post by: macsak on January 18, 2024, 11:00:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG7qlwJkEjI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZy3Ut7fv1U
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: ren on January 18, 2024, 11:10:19 AM
go get one!  :thumbsup:
but after you madafaka get training from an approved HPD instructor
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: stangzilla on January 18, 2024, 11:50:05 AM
That's on my radar, but I am broke right now
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: drck1000 on January 18, 2024, 12:45:29 PM
After I got my first pistol, I wanted a S/A 1911.  TRP and another model of similar price range.  Never got around to getting one though. . .  :(
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: ren on January 18, 2024, 02:04:35 PM
geez thats a lot of money for a production gun.
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: stangzilla on January 19, 2024, 07:41:14 AM
That's on my radar, but I am broke right now

I would be happy with the regular Operator, but if I saw the TRP sitting there at a shop, that would be hard to walk away from
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: stangzilla on January 19, 2024, 09:40:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mDQtZSg0Cw
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 19, 2024, 10:03:08 AM
Did this replace the HRT Professional model?

Hickok45 did a good review of the HRT Professional.  The tolerances for the bushing and slide were so tight, he couldn't rack it without using a hard surface to push the slide against to get it started.  It would apparently take some breaking in to make it easier to work the slide. 

Hickok45 said the FBI trials specified that it had to shoot 3 groups of 10 rounds each within 1-1/2 inches at 25 yards.  After 20,000 rounds, it had to remain within 15% of that grouping.

I saw in the TRP video the reviewer was racking the slide with no difficulty, making me wonder if the tolerances for this FBI handgun are as tight as the HRT Professional. 

Then again, Hickok45's 1911 (which was borrowed for the video) could have been ultra-tight and not representative of all HRT professionals.

https://youtu.be/oH-K3rn_VRg
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: stangzilla on January 19, 2024, 10:10:54 AM
Did this replace the HRT Professional model?

Hickok45 did a good review of the HRT Professional.  The tolerances for the bushing and slide were so tight, he couldn't rack it without using a hard surface to push the slide against to get it started.  It would apparently take some breaking in to make it easier to work the slide. 

Hickok45 said the FBI trials specified that it had to shoot 3 groups of 10 rounds each within 1-1/2 inches at 25 yards.  After 20,000 rounds, it had to remain within 15% of that grouping.

I saw in the TRP video the reviewer was racking the slide with no difficulty, making me wonder if the tolerances for this FBI handgun are as tight as the HRT Professional. 

Then again, Hickok45's 1911 (which was borrowed for the video) could have been ultra-tight and not representative of all HRT professionals.

https://youtu.be/oH-K3rn_VRg

I think it did replace the HRT Pro
I've never handled a TRP, but my Loaded Operator is pretty tight tolerances too.  a little difficult to rack the slide with the hammer down and the barrel to bushing is really tight too, needs the bushing wrench to get off and put back on. but my regular Operator is no problem at all racking the slide or disassembling
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: stangzilla on January 19, 2024, 10:26:22 AM
they may have replaced the HRT with the TRP bc the FBI no longer is issuing the HRT.  just my guess
every once in a while they discontinue a model and have a new one that is very similar but upgraded.  like they discontinued the Range Officer Operator and now its just the Operator which has the rail whereas the RO Operator had ones without rail also
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: stangzilla on January 19, 2024, 11:10:58 AM
https://www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series-handguns/custom-handguns/1911-professional-9mm-handgun/

says the Custom models replace the HRT.  with a hefty price tag too
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 19, 2024, 11:43:20 AM
https://www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series-handguns/custom-handguns/1911-professional-9mm-handgun/

says the Custom models replace the HRT.  with a hefty price tag too

i've researched all of that.  What I see is the Professional is available from the Custom Shop and has 4 variants:
1911 PROFESSIONAL .45 ACP
1911 PROFESSIONAL 9MM
1911 PROFESSIONAL LIGHT RAIL .45 ACP
1911 PROFESSIONAL LIGHT RAIL 9MM

The MSRP are steep, but I see new Professional 1911s on gunbroker for $2,500-$3,000.

The big problem with the Professional has always been long wait times and low inventory. 

The new, updated TRP line seems to be a cross-over attempt to bring some of the Pro custom quality to the TRP while adding lots of new design features like the checkering and accessory rails. 

I sent a message to Springfield asking what's going on with the product lines and whether the FBI has decided to phase out the Professional and purchase the TRP, since I can't find that info anywhere.

Hope to have an update soon.
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: oldfart on January 19, 2024, 12:34:28 PM
Back in the day, before computer driven milling machines, it would cost about $1200 to make something like the trp because the base pistol would be like a GI issue pistol from ww1.
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 19, 2024, 12:57:13 PM
WHen I was looking for a 1911, the TRP and RO were on my radar if I couldn't get the M45 or Scorpion.  And in hindsight, the TRP is still cheaper than what I paid for the M45. But I don't think I would have been fully happy with anything other than my 1st draft choice of the M45.
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: stangzilla on January 20, 2024, 12:58:05 PM
I think it did replace the HRT Pro
I've never handled a TRP, but my Loaded Operator is pretty tight tolerances too.  a little difficult to rack the slide with the hammer down and the barrel to bushing is really tight too, needs the bushing wrench to get off and put back on. but my regular Operator is no problem at all racking the slide or disassembling

My Dan Wesson has tight tolerances, and it is super easy to rack the slide. Its smooth as butter. That's what sold me on the DW. I was looking for a regular Operator in 9mm but the shop didn't have one, but they did have the DW PM9. When I handled it and racked it and tried the trigger, I was sold on it even though it was hundreds more than the Operator
Title: Re: new TRP
Post by: Bcspy on March 11, 2024, 07:59:37 PM
Is $1500 a good price for a TRP Operator 45ACP ? What would be an ideal or reasonable price. Only 50rd