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Title: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: aletheuo137 on January 23, 2024, 11:43:06 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-ballot-hawaii-2024-presidential-election-1863067

Donald Trump could be kicked off the ballot in Hawaii ahead of the 2024 presidential election.

Democrats in the state have introduced legislation to ban insurrectionists from running for public office, as per the 14th Amendment. While he is not named in the bill, Trump therefore may not be eligible if this bill passes, as he has been labeled an insurrectionist because of his actions during the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021, in which his supporters stormed the building to contest the result of the 2020 presidential election and try to block certification of Joe Biden's victory.

The legislation was introduced by Senator Karl Rhoads last week and on Monday it passed its first reading. It moved to ban voters from electing people to president who a federal court, or state supreme court has disqualified because of the 14th Amendment. It also seeks to stop those disqualified by a court based on the constitutional amendment from appearing on party ballots for presidential and vice-presidential nominees.



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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 23, 2024, 02:15:21 PM
The mask has come off Karl Rhoads. He's been playing it safe but now it should be obvious to everyone what he really stands for.

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: ren on January 23, 2024, 02:30:21 PM
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2024/bills/SB2392_.HTM
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: rpoL98 on January 23, 2024, 02:32:55 PM
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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 23, 2024, 02:42:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/RFa4HgZ.jpg)

Has any red states kept DNC people off a presidential ballot?
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Rocky on January 23, 2024, 04:21:43 PM
These guys lost me on the first sentence . . .
"The legislature finds that citizens of this State have the right to expect that public servants be people of integrity, and not people who have committed actions that threaten democracy or undermine the vote of the people."

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/sessions/session2024/bills/SB2392_.HTM

Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: ren on January 23, 2024, 04:26:11 PM
These guys lost me on the first sentence . . .
"The legislature finds that citizens of this State have the right to expect that public servants be people of integrity, and not people who have committed actions that threaten democracy or undermine the vote of the people."

oh the irony as to the author of this bill...Karl Rhoads....as he has always undermined the 2a and is as loyal as a snake...
Hawaii memory is short...

https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/3044/Federal-Court-Ruling-Sen-Karl-Rhoads-participated-in-Honolulu-County-Council-Kickback-scheme

Rhoads is an attorney.  McMillan is a long-time political insider.  Some people may actually believe that these two are not criminals.  Released from prison and now married to Mirikitani, Sharon Bynum is not one of them.  In a recent column posted on HawaiiReporter, she explains:

    His trusted senior aide, Cindy McMillan…was given immunity for her cooperation and testimony. She quickly appeared to benefit by her cooperation and was given a choice position with one of the mayor’s favorite consultants. Later, she was appointed to Councilmember Duke Bainum’s staff. Shortly thereafter, she became a Director for Pacific Communications. Her husband, an attorney, couldn’t keep a job and is now serving as a State Representative.


this is not the first time Rhoads tried kicking someone off a ballot
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/2899/Rep-Karl-Rhoads-Oahu-Co-Democrats-try-to-knock-Iraq-War-Vet-off-HD-28-ballot

Hawaii Republican Party Executive Director Dylan Nonaka released the following statement in reaction to the lawsuit filed today by Lynne Matusow and Anthony Y. Chang against Republican candidate David Chang:

"It is sad that Karl Rhoads and his supporters want to focus on petty political distractions instead of the issues facing the 28th district.

“People of House District 28th should know who the ‘residents’ filing these petty complaints are.  Lynne Matusow is an Oahu County Democratic Party official who has developed a habit of filing complaints against Mr. Chang to distract the campaign away from Karl Rhoads’ record of raising taxes and hurting small business.  Anthony Chang is a former staffer at the Democratic Party who was paid to do one of the dirtiest jobs in politics-- follow opposing candidates around with a video camera.  These people are not concerned residents and this is not an honest complaint.

“The State Office of Elections has already ruled that this complaint has no merit.  It makes you wonder how desperate the Rhoads campaign has to be to continue to pursue this baseless case.

“David Chang will win this election on the streets and doorsteps of the voters of his district, it is disappointing that Karl Rhoads wants to try and win it in a court room."

Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 23, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
These guys lost me on the first sentence . . .
"The legislature finds that citizens of this State have the right to expect that public servants be people of integrity, and not people who have committed actions that threaten democracy or undermine the vote of the people."



Civil Beat reported that Hawaii has been awarded the prestigious distinction of being THE MOST CORRUPT STATE IN THE NATION.

So yeah.  The first sentence is inappropriate if it refers to the "public servants" ::) ::) ::) of this state.

Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 23, 2024, 07:46:19 PM
How do we go after his seat? Surely his constituents must be sick of him by now
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 23, 2024, 08:14:34 PM
How do we go after his seat? Surely his constituents must be sick of him by now
Theyre all morons and support him. He won the last election by a landslide.

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 24, 2024, 08:26:51 AM
Probably a lot of complacency also.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2024, 08:33:19 AM
Probably a lot of complacency also.

I mean he did get over 3,000 votes the last election.  I haven't seen 1 business in the area with his name on it like how politicians get support during an election year.  Or 1 sign on a building or home.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Westside_Redneck on January 24, 2024, 11:40:26 AM
If the Supreme Court rules in February that Trump CAN be removed from a State's ballot, what are we left to do should our crooked blue government have their way and remove Trump from the ballot in November?

I don't like who we are left with in terms of third-party candidates, so what do we do—throw away our ballots from the mail and sit out this election cycle?

If anybody wants to hit the streets against these guys for infringing on our basic democratic right to elect our leaders, I'm with you! I'm sick and f&*^in tired of our current president coming after our guns, making our gas, food, etc. expensive beyond all hell, and letting crime, lawlessness, and homelessness run rampant!
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 24, 2024, 11:45:58 AM
I mean he did get over 3,000 votes the last election.  I haven't seen 1 business in the area with his name on it like how politicians get support during an election year.  Or 1 sign on a building or home.

I've been listening to Bannon's War Room a lot lately and a the majority of states have recently formed conservative Political Action Committees. Hifico seems to be focused solely on firearms so the scope is limited as far as attracting funds from that community. Does anyone know if there's some sort of Hawaii Freedom PAC that supports candidates with conservative values? Most people running for office are too afraid to run attack ads or take controversial stances... for instance mail in voting fraud. It's pretty clear being on the defensive just makes us lose slower and isn't really working, and I think there's a lot of potential supporters out there who are too shy to say how they feel in public, but if they knew other people felt the same way they would let it rip.

My suggestion for the first campaign:

"Who actually voted for Karl Rhoads?"
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 24, 2024, 11:46:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAYpvhbfjI
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Westside_Redneck on January 24, 2024, 12:27:37 PM
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Most people running for office are too afraid to run attack ads or take controversial stances... for instance mail in voting fraud. It's pretty clear being on the defensive just makes us lose slower and isn't really working, and I think there's a lot of potential supporters out there who are too shy to say how they feel in public, but if they knew other people felt the same way they would let it rip.

Agreed, :thumbsup:

 however I must ask. What are the conservatives afraid of around here? Have hawaii conservative candidates in the past been targets of assault, harassed in public, attempted murder, death threats? What's scaring these folks into submission?

On another note, say Trump remains on the ballet and we continue to receive mail in ballots come November. What do we do with those, do we...
-throw them out and vote in person on election day.
-fill out our mail in ballots and take them to a polling place on election day to deliver the filled ballot in person?
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2024, 12:35:04 PM
I've been listening to Bannon's War Room a lot lately and a the majority of states have recently formed conservative Political Action Committees. Hifico seems to be focused solely on firearms so the scope is limited as far as attracting funds from that community. Does anyone know if there's some sort of Hawaii Freedom PAC that supports candidates with conservative values? Most people running for office are too afraid to run attack ads or take controversial stances... for instance mail in voting fraud. It's pretty clear being on the defensive just makes us lose slower and isn't really working, and I think there's a lot of potential supporters out there who are too shy to say how they feel in public, but if they knew other people felt the same way they would let it rip.

My suggestion for the first campaign:

"Who actually voted for Karl Rhoads?"

Due to HIFICO's non-profit status, they cannot support any party or candidate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 24, 2024, 12:38:26 PM
If the Supreme Court rules in February that Trump CAN be removed from a State's ballot, what are we left to do should our crooked blue government have their way and remove Trump from the ballot in November?

I don't like who we are left with in terms of third-party candidates, so what do we do—throw away our ballots from the mail and sit out this election cycle?

If anybody wants to hit the streets against these guys for infringing on our basic democratic right to elect our leaders, I'm with you! I'm sick and f&*^in tired of our current president coming after our guns, making our gas, food, etc. expensive beyond all hell, and letting crime, lawlessness, and homelessness run rampant!

Even without SCOTUS, what the blue states are showing is that they can remove anyone from a ballot for any reason. Trump was never convicted of anything, and most of it, he wasn't even charged for (no day in court to defend himself).  And even these had no evidence, but the DOJ is weaponized.

We live in a banana republic that we think we have freedom.  But what we have instead is permission from the government until they decide to lay the hammer.

The US learned to control the people, they cannot go full communist or obvious corrupt leadership. 
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Rocky on January 24, 2024, 12:49:34 PM
If the Supreme Court rules in February that Trump CAN be removed from a State's ballot, what are we left to do should our crooked blue government have their way and remove Trump from the ballot in November?
Write in ?

On another note, say Trump remains on the ballet and we continue to receive mail in ballots come November. What do we do with those, do we...
-throw them out and vote in person on election day.
-fill out our mail in ballots and take them to a polling place on election day to deliver the filled ballot in person?
Be a libby and do both  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 24, 2024, 01:02:37 PM
however I must ask. What are the conservatives afraid of around here? Have hawaii conservative candidates in the past been targets of assault, harassed in public, attempted murder, death threats? What's scaring these folks into submission?

You don't need mobs and death threats if you can ruin someone's career for having the wrong opinions. That's the way it used to work, but now Rhoads has stepped too far and even many Democrats are shocked at how anti-democratic their party has become.

What we really need are ballot harvesting campaigns. Dems made it legal, so by not using it we are forfeiting the election.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Westside_Redneck on January 24, 2024, 01:24:08 PM
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You don't need mobs and death threats if you can ruin someone's career for having the wrong opinions. That's the way it used to work

Ruin how? Do the Dems contract the local papers around here to write smear articles about them? What are the methods they use to ruin careers? If we can have an idea of the dirty methods these 'means justify the ends' folk use maybe we can figure out how to counter their efforts so the 'means justify their demise' instead.

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Be a libby and do both  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'm being serious here, they are going to send mail in ballots whether we want them or not! So what would be the appropriate response if you are even the least bit suspicious of mail in voting?

Also care to elaborate how one can WRITE IN a candidate you want to vote for in this state?

Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Westside_Redneck on January 24, 2024, 01:28:04 PM


What we really need are ballot harvesting campaigns. Dems made it legal, so by not using it we are forfeiting the election.

Yes lets do it! They're not gonna play fair, we won't either!
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 24, 2024, 01:29:21 PM
If Trump is left off the general election ballot I predict civil unrest in the nation.

Rightfully so.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 24, 2024, 01:53:49 PM
Yes lets do it! They're not gonna play fair, we won't either!

According to this website we don't have any ballot harvesting laws, but I have no idea about the credibility and am not a lawyer.

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_(ballot_collection)_laws_by_state

But if it turns out if is legal then I'd say you are on a good location on the West Side where Trump actually did very well in the past few elections. Just gotta find the folks who are too lazy to fill 'em or no kea.

A fraudulent system can only handle so much fraud. If you overwhelm it there's no way to hide what's going on.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 24, 2024, 02:00:00 PM
Ruin how? Do the Dems contract the local papers around here to write smear articles about them? What are the methods they use to ruin careers? If we can have an idea of the dirty methods these 'means justify the ends' folk use maybe we can figure out how to counter their efforts so the 'means justify their demise' instead.
...

One example from one major US industry:
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For the vast majority of conservatives who work in entertainment, going to set or
the office each day has become a game of avoidance and secrecy. The political
closet is now a necessity for many in an industry that is among the most liberal
in the country.
...
“I feel absolutely it has harmed me professionally,” said Andrew Klavan, the L.A.-
based screenwriter and novelist, and a “reluctant” Trump supporter. His credits
include the 1990 Michael Caine dark comedy “A Shock to the System” and the
novel “True Crime,” which was made into a movie directed by Clint Eastwood.

Klavan said that producers have “called my agent asking, ‘Why would you represent
this guy?’ Anything that lowers your odds is going to hurt.”
https://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-conservatives-hollywood-20170311-story.html
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on January 24, 2024, 02:11:59 PM
Yes lets do it! They're not gonna play fair, we won't either!

There's a big difference between 'fair' and what's legal.

Mud slinging, starting rumors and using SuperPACs to skirt campaign spending laws are just a few unfair, but legal, tactics both sides engage in.

Hawaii is one of few states which began statewide mail-in and early voting well before 2020.  Both schemes are inherently fraught with vulnerabilities that can enable fraud and cheating.  Whether or not that cheating is specifically recognized by the courts as illegal is a huge question.

Can someone offer to take 100 of their closest neighbors' ballots to a drop box to make sure the ballots are cast?  How about if they collect the ballots with none of the bubbles darkened, the envelopes unsealed, and the signature line signed by the voter?

Without direct witness or video evidence, you can't tell if the registered voter executed the ballot, or if the harvester did. 

Then there's the reported problems with registration drives and ballot drop-off.  Someone collecting registration forms or ballots from a person or area that probably votes for "the other side" might find their forms getting lost or shredded. 

So many things are not illegal in the broader sense, but they become illegal when you look at what they are doing after they collect the forms/ballots.  Of course, in their minds, everything is fair in love and war -- and politics today is nothing short of warfare.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: ren on January 24, 2024, 02:17:20 PM
In Hawaii quite a few legislators are appointed. i.e. in Mililani Trish Lachica has tried several times to get a position at the City and State levels. Voters did not want her and neither did the MTA. She finally got appointed by Green #immadoctor to State Rep.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 24, 2024, 02:49:26 PM
In Hawaii quite a few legislators are appointed. i.e. in Mililani Trish Lachica has tried several times to get a position at the City and State levels. Voters did not want her and neither did the MTA. She finally got appointed by Green #immadoctor to State Rep.

On the other hand they must be terrified, because Rhoads would not have felt it necessary to make this dangerous and politically risky maneuver if he had100% confidence in their voter fraud scheme
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 24, 2024, 02:51:57 PM
In Hawaii quite a few legislators are appointed. i.e. in Mililani Trish Lachica has tried several times to get a position at the City and State levels. Voters did not want her and neither did the MTA. She finally got appointed by Green #immadoctor to State Rep.

Gosh with all of these appointments we really are a banana republik.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 24, 2024, 03:32:39 PM
Gosh with all of these appointments we really are a banana republik.

We're definitely in a transition phase, and unfortunately the opposition in this state is really disorganized. The Hawaii GOP is silent on every issue that actually matters. it's like they are scared of their own shadow. Or trying to leave the door open in case they want to rejoin the Democrats some day.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: oldfart on January 24, 2024, 06:51:22 PM
Just an observation here.
I am approaching 70 yrs old.
I've been voting all my life.

I've never heard of anyone being blocked from an election ballot.

Just like I never heard of "chief's rules" until a couple of months ago.

Don't be surprised if we see more weird legal maneuvering in the next few months.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on January 24, 2024, 08:29:46 PM
Sometimes I wonder who the demorats are really afraid of.

Is it Trump or the will of the people?  Obviously there is enough citizens out there that want him back in power.  The will of the people is being presented.  Donald Trump is their choice.

The demorats are afraid.  These communist f*cks are trying to upheave the very foundation of our nation, and that is the will of the people.

Our forefathers must be turning in their graves, knowing the leaders of this country are a bunch of f*ckn traitors.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: rpoL98 on January 30, 2024, 02:23:09 PM
goal is to suppress the will of the people.

we see this even when there's testimony on gun bills.  the will of the people is ignored.  the process is a charade, all for show.  DEM puppet lawmakers do as directed by what their puppet masters dictate.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Stack_Xchange on January 30, 2024, 03:43:43 PM
This sets a terrible precedent and quite literally threatens all future elections.

To even have (basically) a two party election system a terrible for a democratic country. If I want to pencil in "Mits Funai" as my POTUS choice, that should be my prerogative.

If I had it my way, I would require that every person pencil in their vote manually, by name. That way, at least people could only cast votes for people they have actually heard of, and not vote based solely on (D) or (R).
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 30, 2024, 03:49:02 PM
Go read comrade Karl's X page.  Lots of TDS stuff on there.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Cain57 on January 30, 2024, 06:42:44 PM
What these dems are forgetting is that insurrection is a crime. And until an individual is convicted of a crime they are presumed innocent of the charges.

It’s pretty embarrassing that they would try to stoop to this level knowing Hawaii is a blue state.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on January 30, 2024, 06:50:35 PM
What these dems are forgetting is that insurrection is a crime. And until an individual is convicted of a crime they are presumed innocent of the charges.

It’s pretty embarrassing that they would try to stoop to this level knowing Hawaii is a blue state.
Dnc dont care about convictions. Look at the red flag law they passed.

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on January 30, 2024, 07:08:32 PM
What these dems are forgetting is that insurrection is a crime. And until an individual is convicted of a crime they are presumed innocent of the charges.

It’s pretty embarrassing that they would try to stoop to this level knowing Hawaii is a blue state.

The window of opportunity to transform us into their corporate communist utopia is rapidly closing. More people are waking up to the shenanigans and forming a resistance. It's panic time, so they are throwing everything they have at it.

The corruption is so bad results are so horrific that public forgiveness is no longer an option, so this really is an existential crisis for them.

Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: 4C5S on February 01, 2024, 06:39:27 AM
I believe SCOTUS will give an opinion on this issue next week Thursday; so all this conjecture will be put to rest or Trump will be put out to pasture.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: oldfart on February 01, 2024, 07:03:59 AM
You guys should see the emails I get from DSCC, Biden, and other democrat candidates.
It is hilarious, desperate and frantic.
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I can’t express how important donations from our Founding Members are.

Every year, I count on our Founding Members to fund our most critical races.

Members of Congress who are fighting for what we believe in:

Health care, child care, Social Security, our freedoms, our Democracy, and our agenda For The People.

I hope I can count on you and see your name on my list of 2024 Team Pelosi Founding Members before my End of Week Deadline in 8 hours.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on February 01, 2024, 12:24:23 PM
You guys should see the emails I get from DSCC, Biden, and other democrat candidates.
It is hilarious, desperate and frantic.
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I can’t express how important donations from our Founding Members are.

Every year, I count on our Founding Members to fund our most critical races.

Members of Congress who are fighting for what we believe in:

Health care, child care, Social Security, our freedoms, our Democracy, and our agenda For The People.

I hope I can count on you and see your name on my list of 2024 Team Pelosi Founding Members before my End of Week Deadline in 8 hours.



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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: aletheuo137 on February 06, 2024, 12:17:12 PM
BREAKING: Hawaiian bill to remove Donald Trump from the state's primary ballot has PASSED - Introduced by Democrat Senator Karl Rhoads, yet another attempt is being made to restrict voter's right to choose in the 2024 Presidential election.

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Alika on February 06, 2024, 12:38:09 PM
BREAKING: Hawaiian bill to remove Donald Trump from the state's primary ballot has PASSED - Introduced by Democrat Senator Karl Rhoads, yet another attempt is being made to restrict voter's right to choose in the 2024 Presidential election.

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Thanks for testifying in overwhelming opposition, but they don’t work for their constituents anymore, they’re just pushing their agenda
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on February 06, 2024, 12:46:24 PM
Why are they so afraid of him, lol!

Especially in hawaii.  They got the sheeple all brainwashed anyway.

Maybe the DNC gives them money when they do sh*t like this.

All of dem are madafackahs.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 06, 2024, 12:52:05 PM
We know Rhodes is a commie. Elefante is a fuc*boi who has a long future in HI"s DNC plan, he started as C&C counselman.  Buenaventura's aye with reservations is still an aye. Her no vote would have killed the bill as Awa and Gabbard voted no.

Awa is a solid 2a supporter. Gabbard is more like 90/10 2a supporter. He voted for the mag ban 1 hearing, then against it the next and no changes were made to the bill.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 06, 2024, 12:53:14 PM
Why are they so afraid of him, lol!

Especially in hawaii.  They got the sheeple all brainwashed anyway.

Maybe the DNC gives them money when they do sh*t like this.

All of dem are madafackahs.

Bills like these are given to the commies like Rhodes to present.  This is happening in other states as well.  Like Wakai's assault weapon ban bill SB3196, it shares very similar language to New Mexico's one.  Too much similar language to be a coincidence.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: randay on February 06, 2024, 12:58:38 PM
Noone that they remove from the ballot with this bill ever had a chance of winning Hawaii.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on February 06, 2024, 01:02:50 PM
Noone that they remove from the ballot with this bill ever had a chance of winning Hawaii.

Concepts are hard.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: ren on February 07, 2024, 09:14:16 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hawaii-bill-that-could-boot-trump-ballot-narrowly-advances
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on February 07, 2024, 09:22:41 AM
Noone that they remove from the ballot with this bill ever had a chance of winning Hawaii.

Of course they could. Otherwise why bother?
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: rpoL98 on February 07, 2024, 04:19:12 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hawaii-bill-that-could-boot-trump-ballot-narrowly-advances
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/02/07/bill-that-could-ban-trump-hawaii-ballot-insurrection-passes-first-test/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/02/07/bill-that-could-ban-trump-hawaii-ballot-insurrection-passes-first-test/)

this just shows to the nation that darn near the whole state could be described as a state-administered TDS sanatarium, except for maybe the 300 who submitted oppose testimony, and the perhaps 20-30 folks here on 2aHawaii.  300 Spartans.

I wonder if the 300 oppose testifiers are now going to be villified or doxed, as they're identified in the testimony?  after all, we are behind enemy lines, in hostile territory.  Trust the Star-Advertiser to do the dirty deed, as the Dem party propaganda rag, under the guise of "investigative journalism".

could be the 300 oppose testifiers perhaps still believe in the appearance of democracy, while still supporting POTATUS.  who knows.

 :wacko:
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: hvybarrels on February 07, 2024, 06:16:57 PM
this just shows to the nation that darn near the whole state could be described as a state-administered TDS sanatarium, except for maybe the 300 who submitted oppose testimony, and the perhaps 20-30 folks here on 2aHawaii.  300 Spartans.

200k last time, and this time we've had 4 years of POTATUS


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Hawaii
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: rpoL98 on March 04, 2024, 06:12:55 AM
wonder if today's SCOTUS ruling puts the kibosh on this.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/03/04/supreme-court-could-decide-monday-whether-trump-can-be-barred-2024-ballot/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/03/04/supreme-court-could-decide-monday-whether-trump-can-be-barred-2024-ballot/)
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Q on March 04, 2024, 06:41:29 AM
wonder if today's SCOTUS ruling puts the kibosh on this.

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/03/04/supreme-court-could-decide-monday-whether-trump-can-be-barred-2024-ballot/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/03/04/supreme-court-could-decide-monday-whether-trump-can-be-barred-2024-ballot/)

It does for national elections but I think this will be weaponized locally to keep threats off the ballot

Regardless, Rhoads will be crying in his bed this morning before going to work.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: 4C5S on March 04, 2024, 06:47:48 AM
Nah…the 5 hisc lolo judges going try overrule SCOTUS unanimously again. But going lose dis time cause 9 is biggah than 5.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on March 04, 2024, 07:26:15 AM
200k last time, and this time we've had 4 years of POTATUS


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Hawaii

The discontent is real.  Otherwise, like you mentioned, why bother?  They are afraid.

Visions of the last election haunt them.  Long lines willing to wait and vote long after the polls have officially been closed.........
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: rpoL98 on March 04, 2024, 07:27:15 AM
Nah…the 5 hisc lolo judges going try overrule SCOTUS unanimously again. But going lose dis time cause 9 is biggah than 5.
maybe they'll try that Spirit of Aloha thing again.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: ren on March 04, 2024, 07:37:00 AM
We should start kicking local politicians like Rhodes off the ballot for pushing anti Constitutional bills every year - not upholding his Oath of Office.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: aletheuo137 on March 04, 2024, 07:41:07 AM
Supreme Court unanimously reverses Colorado court ruling in 9-0 decision,Trump to stay on the ballot

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 04, 2024, 09:15:12 AM
Supreme Court unanimously reverses Colorado court ruling in 9-0 decision,Trump to stay on the ballot

Is anyone calling for Colorado officials who did this to be held accountable for trying to interfere in a national election?


#WaitingToExhale
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: aletheuo137 on March 04, 2024, 09:30:35 AM
Is anyone calling for Colorado officials who did this to be held accountable for trying to interfere in a national election?


#WaitingToExhale
Simple answer: Nope!

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Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: Jl808 on March 04, 2024, 03:42:06 PM
Supreme court rules 9-0 for keeping Trump on the ballot.

https://youtu.be/mBf5x0yP4rI
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: ren on March 04, 2024, 03:48:55 PM
Supreme court rules 9-0 for keeping Trump on the ballot.

https://youtu.be/mBf5x0yP4rI

not recognized by the State of Aloha...unless tied to rail funding then  :shaka:
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 04, 2024, 04:13:00 PM
You know you messed when SCOTUS rules 9-0 against you.

IDK what's worst, that these retards are in charge or that they're corrupt and in charge.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: rpoL98 on March 04, 2024, 06:22:51 PM
too bad that Hawaii News Now doesn't go interview Karl Rhoads on his viewpoint of todays SCOTUS decision.  They ought to see if they can get him on-record saying the US Constitution doesn't apply in Hawaii, and that he expects the Hawaii Supreme Court to overrule the US Supreme Court shortly.  I mean, after all I'm sure he truly believes that, when it suits him.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: drck1000 on March 04, 2024, 06:24:33 PM
too bad that Hawaii News Now doesn't go interview Karl Rhoads on his viewpoint of todays SCOTUS decision.  They ought to see if they can get him on-record saying the US Constitution doesn't apply in Hawaii, and that he expects the Hawaii Supreme Court to overrule the US Supreme Court shortly.  I mean, after all I'm sure he truly believes that, when it suits him.
Haven’t come across one person that has positive things to say about him. Including folks who aren’t into firearms. Wonder if he’s doing “form ballots”, like how he gets testimony on bills he introduces.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 04, 2024, 06:34:47 PM
too bad that Hawaii News Now doesn't go interview Karl Rhoads on his viewpoint of todays SCOTUS decision.  They ought to see if they can get him on-record saying the US Constitution doesn't apply in Hawaii, and that he expects the Hawaii Supreme Court to overrule the US Supreme Court shortly.  I mean, after all I'm sure he truly believes that, when it suits him.

Aloha Spirit can keep Trump off the ballot.  And its allowed cause what does SCOTUS know about this particular issue one person here might say. Here's an example of it: When someone eats too much Red Vines, their poop turns red. This is super relevant and a very good example as the same person might say.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: QUIETShooter on March 04, 2024, 06:42:03 PM
Basically hawaii is saying you have a right to vote.  But you cannot vote for those we don't like.

If we don't like a particular candidate, you cannot vote for him.  Why?

Because.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: changemyoil66 on March 05, 2024, 09:17:52 AM
Basically hawaii is saying you have a right to vote.  But you cannot vote for those we don't like.

If we don't like a particular candidate, you cannot vote for him.  Why?

Because.

Which is why they're trying to pass that new voting bill into law. And by good ole Comrade Karl.
Title: Re: Donald Trump Could Be Kicked Off Another Ballot Under New Bill
Post by: aletheuo137 on March 18, 2024, 07:26:52 AM
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