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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: Jl808 on March 02, 2024, 09:10:11 AM
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Is there a way we can ensure our elections are not fraudulent, free from counting inaccuracies and free from interference?
They can’t even count the testimonies correctly.
Is there any interest or movement towards
- requiring of voter ID
- one day elections
- in-person voting
- neutral election observers and reporting
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I'd be very happy if more effort would be put into these procedures.
I remember as a kid and watching my parents go to the polls. It was a very solemn and impressive thing to observe. Especially when my parents explain to me about the right of a citizen to vote and the importance of participating in the shaping of the country's future.
I couldn't wait to be old enough so I could also participate in the voting process.
I believe in all of these voting procedures:
- requiring of voter ID
- one day elections
- in-person voting
- neutral election observers and reporting
In this day and age everyone wants immediate results.
It started with mail-in voting. But originally it was meant for those who couldn't make the voting deadline. There were strict parameters in place to ensure no fraud takes place. Now mail-in voting is like Nancy Pelosi, a sick joke.
Cheating during elections seems to be ok, as long as the cheaters don't get caught. People are voting and voting often, dead people are putting their 2 cents in and people who I believe do not have the right to vote are voting with the help of harvesters that tell them what to do and who to vote for in exchange for Mcdonald gift certificates. (ok, that last part is just my opinion and a hunch). Not to mention certain batches they don't agree with end up in ditches or in the bushes, never to make it to the polls only to be found years later.
Sure, after careful analysis it has been determined that these batches wouldn't have changed the outcome but the damage to trust and integrity of the voting process will forever be suspect once the news about it was reported to the people.
I believe that when it comes to elections there should be no hurry. You can't wait, tough sh*t. You wait. We are going to do this right. There should be laws about this.
What happened to those days? When did the voting process, which used to be fair, transparent, and above integrity, turn into a f*ckn circus?
Whenever I get into discussions about these kinds of things and we wonder: When was the tipping point? When did America start going to sh*t?
I always joke about it started when OJ Simpson got acquitted for murder. I said people started thinking: If he can get away with it so can we.
It was a joke but nowadays I wonder......
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No real excuse not to vote im-person.
Except if you are in the hospital having heart surgery like some guy I know.
The covid scare is done.
That's why it's mandatory for employers to give employees time off to vote on election days.
IMHO
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No real excuse not to vote im-person.
Except if you are in the hospital having heart surgery like some guy I know.
The covid scare is done.
That's why it's mandatory for employers to give employees time off to vote on election days.
IMHO
People can always come up with excuses:
I'm working 3 jobs,
I don't follow politics -- I'll let others who know more decide.
My vote doesn't matter in a state that always votes for one party.
I used to see public service ads and programs pushing the idea that it's your civic duty to vote. Everyone who can vote is needed to make sure elections work.
I can't recall those ads in the last couple of decades. Maybe a big change was the Internet vs. Network TV. Networks gave free time to programming of certain types, and in political speech, they offered equal time to opposing messages.
That's not a thing on the Internet -- obviously.
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https://youtu.be/676tRB-DB0E
Jury finds Election Official Guilty of Main-In Ballot Fraud
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I stopped voting in person, when I voted in the 1992 election.
Place was packed with people and I had to listen to some Democrat idiot
for an hour. Even after I respectfully asked them to be quiet and just vote.
At least at an airport while waiting in a long line I can ask security to have
a talk with the noisy Bastard!
It really pisses me off when you have a "captive" line of people and you choose to
preach your drivel as Democrats/Socialists are want to do.
I like my public listening to be optional.
:thumbsup:
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I stopped voting in person, when I voted in the 1992 election.
Place was packed with people and I had to listen to some Democrat idiot
for an hour. Even after I respectfully asked them to be quiet and just vote.
At least at an airport while waiting in a long line I can ask security to have
a talk with the noisy Bastard!
It really pisses me off when you have a "captive" line of people and you choose to
preach your drivel as Democrats/Socialists are want to do.
I like my public listening to be optional.
:thumbsup:
It's unlawful to solicit votes or campaign within a certain distance from the polls -- usually marked by a sign at the perimeter.
Mention that to the talker, and if necessary, tell a poll worker. At the very least, covertly record what they are saying as evidence when asked what they were saying.
If no poll worker intervenes, take the video to the news outlets and the elections commission. They have rules about this kind of conduct where people are casting ballots.
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To answer OP,:
No, we cant make sure our elections are legit because the side who plays fair doesn't have the power to do so. ie: control of the flow of information, DOJ, etc...
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Democrats are recruiting a FT position in Hawaii to “Get Out to Vote”.
One of the job duties is to combat legislation on “voter suppression”.
The Office of Elections is recruiting for a FT position to “maximize and equalize voter registration and participation statewide”.
This is the machine we are up against.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240402/0d6a43de06a6be2429ed0a772b251c15.jpg)
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They should just pass legislation to publicly fund the Democratic Party
Would be more honest
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Democrats are recruiting a FT position in Hawaii to “Get Out to Vote”.
One of the job duties is to combat legislation on “voter suppression”.
The Office of Elections is recruiting for a FT position to “maximize and equalize voter registration and participation statewide”.
This is the machine we are up against.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240402/0d6a43de06a6be2429ed0a772b251c15.jpg)
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Check out the last sentence: Equal access to the Democratic process. Ha ha, hee hee, hoo hoo. :rofl:
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No real excuse not to vote im-person.
Except if you are in the hospital having heart surgery like some guy I know.
The covid scare is done.
That's why it's mandatory for employers to give employees time off to vote on election days.
IMHO
I have a good excuse for you,
Having to listen to some progressive ass for an hour till you vote!
:grrr:
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I have a good excuse for you,
Having to listen to some progressive ass for an hour till you vote!
:grrr:
or listening to some person that ran away from the problem for 15 seconds
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or listening to some person that ran away from the problem for 15 seconds
Not sure I understand your comment clearly.
I voted and I still vote.
I just don't bother to listen to Democrats.
::)
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It's unlawful to solicit votes or campaign within a certain distance from the polls -- usually marked by a sign at the perimeter.
Mention that to the talker, and if necessary, tell a poll worker. At the very least, covertly record what they are saying as evidence when asked what they were saying.
If no poll worker intervenes, take the video to the news outlets and the elections commission. They have rules about this kind of conduct where people are casting ballots.
All you say is true.
but if you are in a line waiting and some ass decides to speak his or her mind that is legal.
and very irritating.
Leave the line or listen to their BS?
Look at it this way,
If you are an atheist and waiting in a very long line to vote,
and somebody starts to read the book of Exodus starting at chapter 20
aloud?
You would have issues!
:grrr:
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All you say is true.
but if you are in a line waiting and some ass decides to speak his or her mind that is legal.
and very irritating.
Leave the line or listen to their BS?
Look at it this way,
If you are an atheist and waiting in a very long line to vote,
and somebody starts to read the book of Exodus starting at chapter 20
aloud?
You would have issues!
:grrr:
Only a problem if Exodus is on the ballot. :geekdanc:
Speech is not 100% protected in all circumstances. This is one of those cases.
You can wear articles of clothing in line to vote supporting your choice in the election.
However, when you pass the "no electioneering" point -- usually 100 feet from the polling place -- you are restricted from soliciting or electioneering. That means, if you're talking about any of the candidates -- whether it's why you or someone should or should not vote for them -- and it's within 100 feet, you can be asked to leave the line if you don't stop.
There used to be a problem with people wearing Trump shirts and MAGA hats being ejected from the line, but the SCOTUS has ruled clothing that shows support isn't electioneering. Those clothing articles are not providing arguments as to why they are, or are not, voting for a candidate.
https://www.wave3.com/2022/11/08/electioneering-voting-whats-legal-when-heading-polls/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YHLMU_5MLo
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Maybe it's a joke? (April 1)
:geekdanc:
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