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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: Flapp_Jackson on March 23, 2024, 10:33:34 AM
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In the 1960s, anyone diagnosed with a mental defect was labeled prohibited from buying firearms.
In the 1990s, the Social Security Administration, followed in 1998 by the Veteran's Administration, decided that anyone getting services from them and has asked for another to manage their finances for any reason were summarily designated "mentally defective." That earned them the prize of having their names submitted to the FBI as prohibited gun buyers in the NICS database.
Biden just signed into law a spending bill which includes a provision to stop the VA from reporting veterans without a diagnosed mental illness or defect from being reported to NICS. Notice, the veteran provision was wedged into a spending bill, which i'm sure was not brought to Biden's attention until after the signing. :rofl:
Of course, the anti-gun groups are losing their minds claiming thousands of vets have been handed "a death sentence."
Since the sole criterion for the previous rule was "having someone else manage their finances", there's no evidence anyone in that group will be more likely to misuse a firearm.
This is good news for the Second Amendment and for veterans who deserve the respect and liberties they earned to defend themselves, hunt or sport-shoot if they are so inclined.
Don't forget: many of these veterans are trained and experienced in warfare and would be vital in any resistance to a tyrannical government should the need arise.
https://apnews.com/article/veterans-guns-congress-spending-bill-93919a8f43357152a90b5de9f61c08c1
https://youtu.be/DEXD2n-jQVo
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Didnt trump sign a XO about this?
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Didnt trump sign a XO about this?
There were letters from many Congressmen requesting he do so, but I don't think he did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_orders_by_Donald_Trump
Having it become law is better than an XO, as Biden can't undo it now. Lucky for us, he's too senile to know what he's signing.
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Thats good news!
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Thats good news!
Because you like that Biden (accidentally) did this?
Surely it's not because you agree that the government should not be adjudicating people as mentally ill and prohibited from owning guns. That's the entire premise behind red flag laws -- which you support.
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There were letters from many Congressmen requesting he do so, but I don't think he did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_orders_by_Donald_Trump
Having it become law is better than an XO, as Biden can't undo it now. Lucky for us, he's too senile to know what he's signing.
My mistake, I remember now, it wasn't geared toward Veterans. It was in general. IDK if there this included vets or not.
Example: My aunty died and she paid all the bills for decades. So my uncle was unable to pay them. The water got turned off and so did his electricity. He had to be deemed unfit to do things so his daughter can take over paying his bills. Luckily, he's not a gun owner as it didn't affect him.
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My mistake, I remember now, it wasn't geared toward Veterans. It was in general. IDK if there this included vets or not.
Example: My aunty died and she paid all the bills for decades. So my uncle was unable to pay them. The water got turned off and so did his electricity. He had to be deemed unfit to do things so his daughter can take over paying his bills. Luckily, he's not a gun owner as it didn't affect him.
Ask yourself why it was easier to have him declared incompetent than to be deemed competent so he can manage his finances?
He was affected, just not within the scope of owning guns.
Having been deemed incompetent makes him more likely to lose voting rights, driving priviledges, legal ability to enter into contracts, owning property, etc, etc.
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Ask yourself why it was easier to have him declared incompetent than to be deemed competent so he can manage his finances?
He was affected, just not within the scope of owning guns.
Having been deemed incompetent makes him more likely to lose voting rights, driving priviledges, legal ability to enter into contracts, owning property, etc, etc.
Cant teach an old dog new tricks. His wife paid the bills since they were together (50years+). He still knows lots of stuff he grew up doing. Like golf. He can tell you won what game the week before and by how many strokes (he's a golfer). But trying to teach him bills and how to write a check as online was way over his paygrade, was impossible. The family found it easier to just pay his bills for him. So all the bills get mailed to his daughters address.
He still drives and has his license. IDK about voting, never asked.
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Cant teach an old dog new tricks. His wife paid the bills since they were together (50years+). He still knows lots of stuff he grew up doing. Like golf. He can tell you won what game the week before and by how many strokes (he's a golfer). But trying to teach him bills and how to write a check as online was way over his paygrade, was impossible. The family found it easier to just pay his bills for him. So all the bills get mailed to his daughters address.
He still drives and has his license. IDK about voting, never asked.
I had always managed the bills with my wife. I paid everything on or before the due dates to avoid late fees and interest.
I was then deployed 3 times to Saudi Arabia, and my wife had to take over the finances during my absence.
Each time I returned, it took me a month to get all the bills back on track. She would wait until my payday -- twice a month -- to do the bills. But, there were bills due between paydays that were late when she got around to paying them. She always had excuses like not enough in one paycheck to pay all that was due, yet I never had that problem because I would pay some bills early out of the previous check. 1/2 a month ahead versus 1/2 a month behind.
It became so frustrating trying to sort out her messes, I finally told her she was in charge of the bills from then on. Rather than 2 systems of paying bills, we would just have one. My hope was that she'd learn as we went there's a better way than only paying bills on payday.
After a year of increasing late fees and interest, I finally had to take the checkbook back. By then, I had online bill pay with USAA, so I could manage the money from anywhere that I had Internet access. In fact, I set up all the bills I could on auto-pay, so none of the due dates were missed.
With today's environment, it's simple to setup auto-pay from each company -- gas, electric, water, phone, mortgage, credit card, auto insurance, etc, etc -- and even to request different days in a month to pay so they aren't all overlapping. Your daughter could easily set that up for him and let him manage the money that way. She'd still be able to help if there were any problems.
Just saying, he really doesn't need to know how to write a check or to set up online payments. Once it's established, it's pretty much on auto pilot.
Now, if he's losing money to scammers or online gambling sites, that's another conversation. There are plenty of competent people out there with those problems.
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Now, if he's losing money to scammers or online gambling sites, that's another conversation. There are plenty of competent people out there with those problems.
Then Dr. Phil would have less episodes of stuff to talk about. Saw one the other day the guy thought that Miranda Lambert was messaging him for money so she can make her next hit album. Like she needed $750 for a laptop case so she can write songs while traveling. Then the guy said she planned on coming for dinner, but kept rescheduling due to her meetings. So Dr. Phil asked "so if Miranda Lambert did come over for dinner, where would your wife be and what would she be doing?". He replied "IDK".
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cool story, bro...
Then Dr. Phil would have less episodes of stuff to talk about. Saw one the other day the guy thought that Miranda Lambert was messaging him for money so she can make her next hit album. Like she needed $750 for a laptop case so she can write songs while traveling. Then the guy said she planned on coming for dinner, but kept rescheduling due to her meetings. So Dr. Phil asked "so if Miranda Lambert did come over for dinner, where would your wife be and what would she be doing?". He replied "IDK".
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Then Dr. Phil would have less episodes of stuff to talk about. Saw one the other day the guy thought that Miranda Lambert was messaging him for money so she can make her next hit album. Like she needed $750 for a laptop case so she can write songs while traveling. Then the guy said she planned on coming for dinner, but kept rescheduling due to her meetings. So Dr. Phil asked "so if Miranda Lambert did come over for dinner, where would your wife be and what would she be doing?". He replied "IDK".
So, you're saying Dr. Phil didn't diagnose him as incompetent, so anyone else who gets scammed isn't necessarily incompetent -- but possibly horny?
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So, you're saying Dr. Phil didn't diagnose him as incompetent, so anyone else who gets scammed isn't necessarily incompetent -- but possibly horny?
I didn't watch the entire episode, just like 1 min of it while channel surfing. IDK if his wife left him either.
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My conspiracy brain guesses is that they are pissed off about not getting the armed revolt that they needed in order to justify martial law, so they want to try re-arming the people who are most likely to start it.
(https://preview.redd.it/k7b8xam32go71.jpg?auto=webp&s=00ad1354f6ac24f4828a64b3ed47ad8ef55e2c8a)
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Because you like that Biden (accidentally) did this?
Surely it's not because you agree that the government should not be adjudicating people as mentally ill and prohibited from owning guns. That's the entire premise behind red flag laws -- which you support.
I don't take troll bait.
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I don't take troll bait.
Yes, you do.