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Title: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 16, 2024, 07:30:53 AM
He said at a Townhall meeting in Wahiawa that he told Logan to be aggressive with approving CCW's.  He also states that "we're following the Bruen ruling".
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: ren on April 16, 2024, 11:17:46 AM
aggressive in approving or denying?
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 16, 2024, 11:25:35 AM
In my opinion, be aggressive as much as possible in delaying the approval process.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: hvybarrels on April 16, 2024, 11:29:30 AM
aggressive in approving or denying?

You really have to ask?
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: ren on April 16, 2024, 12:02:41 PM
You really have to ask?
There's a chance. Very small but it is there.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 16, 2024, 01:27:38 PM
aggressive in approving or denying?

For denying.  Basically, look for any reason and make the applicant jump thru hoops to prove they're OK to CCW. Even though, they already own guns.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: QUIETShooter on April 16, 2024, 01:56:25 PM
The mayor just wants to make sure the mantra "When seconds count, HPD is just minutes, or maybe hours away......" will live on forever.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: ren on April 16, 2024, 02:50:05 PM
Does the Mayor have a security detail? Does he CCW? Lead by example. If Honolulu is so safe that he feels no one should be able to defend themselves he should heed to that as well.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: macsak on April 16, 2024, 03:22:42 PM
he claimed to be "intimidated" by me, when he was in a room with 10-12 officers and his whole cabinet behind him
so i doubt he was carrying if he was scared of me when i'm less than half his size...

Does the Mayor have a security detail? Does he CCW? Lead by example. If Honolulu is so safe that he feels no one should be able to defend themselves he should heed to that as well.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: ren on April 16, 2024, 03:41:07 PM
he claimed to be "intimidated" by me, when he was in a room with 10-12 officers and his whole cabinet behind him
so i doubt he was carrying if he was scared of me when i'm less than half his size...

SFODD DDS have mad skills
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: macsak on April 16, 2024, 04:48:06 PM
But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you...

SFODD DDS have mad skills
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 16, 2024, 05:29:08 PM
But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you...

To gingavites.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: zippz on April 16, 2024, 11:02:47 PM
Watch the video

https://www.youtube.com/live/W9isk7CACvg?t=6491

It's supposed to be the Government's burden to prove a person is disqualified from owning a firearm.

Mayor says public safety is #1.  Sounds like interest balancing.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 17, 2024, 07:25:14 AM
Watch the video

https://www.youtube.com/live/W9isk7CACvg?t=6491

It's supposed to be the Government's burden to prove a person is disqualified from owning a firearm.

Mayor says public safety is #1.  Sounds like interest balancing.

Maybe I'm being too sensitive, but Rick sounds like a 100% no-question-about-it gun-hating Democrat who's using "Hawaiian Culture" (i.e Aloha Spirit) to justify ignoring the rights of individuals to provide for their own safety without depending on government.

I didn't grow up in Hawaii, so I guess I'm part of the gun culture in the US.  Rick seems to believe I should abandon MY culture and adopt HIS simply because he believes it increases safety.  What happens when someone born and raised in HI travels and/or moves to the mainland because they can't afford it here?  They will be ill prepared for self defense because the wonderful people running HI decided they don't need to be able to carry or use a firearm.  The Aloha Spirit won't protect them at all.  Not everyone has the option of living on these tiny islands in the middle of the Pacific from cradle to grave where Big Brother pretends to keep them safe.  Even while traveling out of state for work or pleasure, HI residents deserve the right to prepare for whatever potential threats they may encounter. 

Rick has a pretty narrow view of life, liberty and safety in general.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: defend_hawaii on April 17, 2024, 09:00:47 AM
I submitted my application in the first week in January, with everything that was needed being the new year.  HPD officer that is conducting the CCW applications called me first week of March, and told me my background check was done and good.  He said the next step was to get signed off by the Chief of police  Its been almost 45 days since my background check was good, and still nothing. I just called HPD firearms division to follow up. Talk about a waste of 7 minutes, listening to long winded prompts only to be told sit and wait from the automated voice.  This tyrant police chief is a joke, just like the politicians over here.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: hvybarrels on April 17, 2024, 09:19:02 AM
I submitted my application in the first week in January, with everything that was needed being the new year.  HPD officer that is conducting the CCW applications called me first week of March, and told me my background check was done and good.  He said the next step was to get signed off by the Chief of police  Its been almost 45 days since my background check was good, and still nothing. I just called HPD firearms division to follow up. Talk about a waste of 7 minutes, listening to long winded prompts only to be told sit and wait from the automated voice.  This tyrant police chief is a joke, just like the politicians over here.

Gosh I wonder why there's so many illegal guns everywhere  ???
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 17, 2024, 09:21:44 AM
I submitted my application in the first week in January, with everything that was needed being the new year.  HPD officer that is conducting the CCW applications called me first week of March, and told me my background check was done and good.  He said the next step was to get signed off by the Chief of police  Its been almost 45 days since my background check was good, and still nothing. I just called HPD firearms division to follow up. Talk about a waste of 7 minutes, listening to long winded prompts only to be told sit and wait from the automated voice.  This tyrant police chief is a joke, just like the politicians over here.

Remember that after 120 days, it's an automatic denial and you will have to pay another $150 to reapply, take another shooting qualification too.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: defend_hawaii on April 18, 2024, 12:42:28 AM
Remember that after 120 days, it's an automatic denial and you will have to pay another $150 to reapply, take another shooting qualification too.
I just read the law.  It states if its an incomplete application after 120 days its dead.  Could find anything else besides that.  Am I missing something? 🤙
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: Motorman on April 18, 2024, 06:36:22 AM
I just read the law.  It states if its an incomplete application after 120 days its dead.  Could find anything else besides that.  Am I missing something? 🤙

Correct. If the application is incomplete, i.e. multiple attempts have been made to contact the applicant to provide missing documentation/information with no result.

The 120 days does not apply if your application is complete and not missing anything.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2024, 11:25:08 AM
Correct. If the application is incomplete, i.e. multiple attempts have been made to contact the applicant to provide missing documentation/information with no result.

The 120 days does not apply if your application is complete and not missing anything.
We hope this is what HPD abides by.



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Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2024, 12:45:56 PM
I just read the law.  It states if its an incomplete application after 120 days its dead.  Could find anything else besides that.  Am I missing something? 🤙

You're wrong.

" If the chief of police does not grant or deny a submitted application for a concealed carry license within one hundred twenty days following the date of the application, the application shall be deemed denied as of that date for purposes of subsection (k)."
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 18, 2024, 12:46:16 PM
Correct. If the application is incomplete, i.e. multiple attempts have been made to contact the applicant to provide missing documentation/information with no result.

The 120 days does not apply if your application is complete and not missing anything.

" If the chief of police does not grant or deny a submitted application for a concealed carry license within one hundred twenty days following the date of the application, the application shall be deemed denied as of that date for purposes of subsection (k)."
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: Motorman on April 19, 2024, 06:27:13 AM
You're wrong.

" If the chief of police does not grant or deny a submitted application for a concealed carry license within one hundred twenty days following the date of the application, the application shall be deemed denied as of that date for purposes of subsection (k)."

My bad. I’ll let them know.
Title: Re: Comrade Mayor Rick is the reason for CCW delays
Post by: changemyoil66 on April 19, 2024, 06:51:38 AM
My bad. I’ll let them know.
No problem.

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