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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: sEEKretSAUCE808 on December 25, 2012, 06:23:18 PM
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What's the procedure for selling a rifle to another person, and the procedure for selling a handgun. What information in necessary for buyer to register the firearm?
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Good stuff HERE (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.0) :shaka:
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It all depends. If you know the guy and trust him to register it.
Long Guns
Make a copy of his valid long gun permit to aquire. Let him scratch out all info he doesnt want you to know.
You can also make a copy of his ID.
Attach that to your permit.
You can also make a bill of sale
You can call HPD and see if he transferred it. Make sure you wait the few days
I have most guys call me when they done. Then i call HPD
HPD does not care about your valid permits. They say it is your resposibility to keep records.
If the gun is ever used in a crime. They do a reverse trace starting with the manufacturer.
If you dont trust the guy. Meet him at hpd and do the transfer.
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Handguns
This can be tricky
I normally give the guy $100 deposit and make a copy of his permit
And make a reciept. Apply for the permit. And wait.
Pay him the balance when i get the gun.
It is hard for them to fool you because you will not be issued the permit if the serial is not in the system
Or you could have him meet you at HPD for the balance and transfer
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Thanks SpeedTek, I really didn't want to type all of that.
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I have to repeat this everyday. Didnt have to do it today till now. So its all good.
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Yups thanks SpeedTek :shaka:
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You are proving to be a most useful mammal Dex!
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What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?
Anyone got any unregistered 10/22 for sale? I don't want to wait in that line for a 10/22...
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What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?
Anyone got any unregistered 10/22 for sale? I don't want to wait in that line for a 10/22...
You mean really old guns and black powder guns?
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Sorry not that old, guns purchased between 1980 - 1994...
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Sorry not that old, guns purchased between 1980 - 1994...
Grandfathered to the original purchaser, but any transfers after 1994 have to be registered.
What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?
Yes. Not doing so is a major felony.
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Thanks for clearing that up....
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What if the gun is unregistered because the date it was originally purchased and you trust the person. Do you still have to register the long gun?
Anyone got any unregistered 10/22 for sale? I don't want to wait in that line for a 10/22...
The rifle would still be transferred to you and would have to be registered.
The only way you could have an "unregistered" rifle would be to have taken possession prior to 1994.
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The rifle would still be transferred to you and would have to be registered.
The only way you could have an "unregistered" rifle would be to have taken possession prior to 1994.
of course, the big question is, how would they know?
im just curious, because my father has an unregistered rifle he got in the 70's.
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of course, the big question is, how would they know?
im just curious, because my father has an unregistered rifle he got in the 70's.
§134-3 Registration, Mandatory, Exceptions. (a) Every person arriving in the State who brings or by any other manner causes to be brought into the State a firearm of any description, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, shall register the firearm within three days after arrival of the person or of the firearm, whichever arrives later.
§134-3 ( d) Registration shall not be required for:
(1) Any device that is designed to fire loose black powder or that is a firearm manufactured before 1899;
(2) Any device not designed to fire or made incapable of being readily restored to a firing condition; or
(3) All unserviceable firearms and destructive devices registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms of the United States Department of Justice pursuant to Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations.
Registration is not mandatory for rifles and shotguns acquired in the state of Hawaiʻi prior to July, 1994. However, one permit per rifle or shotgun was required for acquisitions between 1981 and July, 1994.
So if your father has it already in Hawaii (local resident), it should be good, but if he lives in another state and wants to bring it to Hawaii, he would need to register it.
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yeah, he's local.
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of course, the big question is, how would they know?
im just curious, because my father has an unregistered rifle he got in the 70's.
Because you're too young to have taken possession of the rifle before that time.
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Because you're too young to have taken possession of the rifle before that time.
i am, i was just wondering if he, say, sold it to one of his friends. technically, they wouldnt really know, right?
we're not planning on getting rid of it or anything, i was just curious.
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i am, i was just wondering if he, say, sold it to one of his friends. technically, they wouldnt really know, right?
we're not planning on getting rid of it or anything, i was just curious.
Hypothetically I don't see how anyone would know if the person's age adds up that they could have acquired it legally in that timeframe. Think about this....if say, someone's relative or parent gave them a legal unregistered firearm before the requirement to register it, or an inheritance, say pre 1980, and that receiving individual was of legal age to own a firearm, then they should be able to keep it unregistered. However, the verbiage in these proposed bans calls for all unregistered firearms to be registered. If that actually happens, it becomes a moot point and even your father would have to register it, unless of course he really never had an unregistered rifle and we are just talking hypothetically. I think if that scenario ever plays out, many people may take their chances and claim they don't process any unregistered rifles or cough up a token one or two just to give the appearance of compliance.
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Hypothetically I don't see how anyone would know if the person's age adds up that they could have acquired it legally in that timeframe. Think about this....if say, someone's relative or parent gave them a legal unregistered firearm before the requirement to register it, or an inheritance, say pre 1980, and that receiving individual was of legal age to own a firearm, then they should be able to keep it unregistered. However, the verbiage in these proposed bans calls for all unregistered firearms to be registered. If that actually happens, it becomes a moot point and even your father would have to register it, unless of course he really never had an unregistered rifle and we are just talking hypothetically. I think if that scenario ever plays out, many people may take their chances and claim they don't process any unregistered rifles or cough up a token one or two just to give the appearance of compliance.
its just a lever action .22. im not trying to circumvent any coming ban or whatever. i was just curious, because sometimes, i go to the range without him, and i know you're allowed to let people borrow your guns, but if i ever got pulled over, i clearly am not old enough, and the check would not lead to any rifle in the database.