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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on August 20, 2024, 07:38:49 AM
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https://www.khon2.com/top-stories/i-felt-like-this-was-my-last-moment-ewa-woman-after-being-attacked-by-over-15-dogs/
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Police said call the Humane Society.
Humane society said call the Police.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Hawaii........ :rofl:
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Police said call the Humane Society.
Humane society said call the Police.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Hawaii........ :rofl:
When my neighbor's dog was left alone in the back yard and was barking for hours nonstop, I talked to the neighbors who promised to try and fix it.
After another month with the same incessant barking, i checked the Humane Society website. It said to call 911 and file a complaint on the phone. HPD would give the information to the Humane Society.
After one complaint, they send person to the owner's house to talk about potential solutions: providing the dog extra exercise, giving the animal toys or a bed to make them more comfortable outside, and so on.
After a second complaint, they can be fined.
After the third, the animal can be taken.
That was over 10 years ago.
My neighbor’s dogs bark non-stop. Isn’t that illegal?
It is against City & County of Honolulu law for a dog to bark constantly for 10 minutes,
or unprovoked for 30 minutes on and off, to the disturbance of others. Dogs bark for
many reasons, some of them are perfectly natural and to be expected, others can be
a sign that the animal is in distress. Try talking to your neighbor first. If the barking is
happening when the neighbor is not at home, he or she may be unaware of the issue.
https://hawaiianhumane.org/frequently-asked-questions/#hfaq-post-12437
It doesn't say to call 911 now. Maybe it's elsewhere on the website, but i didn't find it today, at least not for barking.
I guess they think it's implied since it's illegal?
Call our Humane Investigators at 808-356-2250:
-- Daily Hours of Operation: 7 am – 7 pm
-- For after-hours animal emergencies, please call 808-356-2250 for assistance.
If you witness an incident in real-time that poses an immediate threat to public safety
or an animal, please call 911 for assistance.
For any non-emergency concerns, such as encountering a loose dog in your neighborhood that
is non aggressive and poses no threat, or to file a report, please contact our Field Services
Dispatch at (808) 356-2250.
https://hawaiianhumane.org/investigations-rescues-laws/
So, if the dog is a noise nuisance, 911 is appropriate since it's a violation of city ordinance.
If the dogs that attacked the woman in the story were known by others to be dangerous, they should have already called 911.
Once the woman was attacked, HPD should have been notified to be on the scene along with medical help. They should investigate who owns the dogs, because the dogs are absolutely aggressive and need to be controlled.
Looks like HPD might have received such a report and failed to contact the Humane Society. Just guessing...
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So some info, peppery spray has little if any affect on a attacking/excited dog. If anything, all it does is change it's environment cause now they're somewhat wet.
Then don't forget to tell the owner if you want that they need to wash their do good or they will pet dog and rub eye or breath in the OC.
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what about a salty spray?
So some info, peppery spray has little if any affect on a attacking/excited dog. If anything, all it does is change it's environment cause now they're somewhat wet.
Then don't forget to tell the owner if you want that they need to wash their do good or they will pet dog and rub eye or breath in the OC.
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what about a salty spray?
Doesn't work as good compared to Fluoridey spray.
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Betcha bear spray will stop em in their tracks…….
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Betcha bear spray will stop em in their tracks…….
Gotta bigger pockets. Need to carry Peppery spray, Salty spray, bear spray, narcan spray.
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9mm would do good
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I've always wondered for a single dog attacking, what if you attacked back first?
I see many vids of people running or back peddling and then the dog leaps at them to bite. They often do what comes naturally and raise their arm to try to block the dog leaping, but this gives the dog an arm to bite onto.
What if instead you charge at a dog charging at you and try to punch the face or even lower the shoulder to hit, football style? An arm or hand sticking out has more area to bite. Dipping the shoulder has less dog jaw sized areas to latch on to. I mean, depending on how athletic you are, spin move and then charge as to avoid the initial leap from the dog (football spin style). For the punching of a leaping dog, you gotta have good timing.
The point of the above is that you aren't going to outrun a dog.
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Gotta bigger pockets. Need to carry Peppery spray, Salty spray, bear spray, narcan spray.
Don't forget the UTI's
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Then you need to worry about the libtard dog owner saying it was a good dog,only was trying for be friendly...I've had that happen. I run in the AM and a neighbor has his 3 pitbulls unleashed using the bathroom outside. One event I did not run and let the dog come up to me but the dog did not exhibit any friendly gestures. I.e. no tail wagging etc. So as soon the dog turned ATTN away I sprinted. On other times I just sprinted as fast as I can and the dogs started a chase. The dogs' owners had no control.
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9mm would do good
As I've posted before, you can shoot a dog attacking your live stock, but when it's a dog attacking you, it's more like cruelty to animals
https://dogbitelaw.com/legal-rights-of-rescuers-who-incur-dog-bites/self-defense-when-a-dog-attacks-a-person
Weapon success rates
We have been logging fatal and disfiguring dog attack data for nearly 37 years now. Based on actual case data, a firearm has about an 80% success rate in stopping a charging pit bull, but with a high rate of accidentally killing or injuring other people nearby, as occurred on June 21, 2017 when a ricochet from a police round fired at a charging pit bull killed 17-year-old Armando Garcia, who was reportedly 40 feet away and out of view of the officers who were trying to stop the attack.
A fire extinguisher has about a 70% success rate, with no risk to bystanders.
Bear spray, pepper spray and Mace have about a 40% success rate in stopping pit bull attacks.
Many people carry a knife, but a knife of any sort is next to useless against a charging dog, especially a pit bull.
The most frequent mistake made by people trying to stop a dog attack, contributing to serious injuries almost every day now, is attempted use of blunt force, typically by swinging an object such as a baseball bat or a golf club at the dog.The correct way to use a bat or golf club, if one happens to have one, is as a bite stick, held in such a manner as to keep the dog at maximum distance from oneself.
https://www.animals24-7.org/2019/02/24/15-real-life-tips-for-surviving-a-dog-attack/
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Another justification for standard capacity magazines
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The most frequent mistake made by people trying to stop a dog attack, contributing to serious injuries almost every day now, is attempted use of blunt force, typically by swinging an object such as a baseball bat or a golf club at the dog.The correct way to use a bat or golf club, if one happens to have one, is as a bite stick, held in such a manner as to keep the dog at maximum distance from oneself.
https://www.animals24-7.org/2019/02/24/15-real-life-tips-for-surviving-a-dog-attack/
Would u know if this is like how we see on vids and weak ass hits. I'm talking about MMA type blows to a dog. Which would mean, unless a female is Rhonda Rousey, they have no chance due to lack of strength for your average woman. A pit bills scull is hard, so if you miss the snout or side of the face, you prob will break your hand if you try to punch one and it's leaping at u.
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the dog will instinctively go for your neck...
I've always wondered for a single dog attacking, what if you attacked back first?
I see many vids of people running or back peddling and then the dog leaps at them to bite. They often do what comes naturally and raise their arm to try to block the dog leaping, but this gives the dog an arm to bite onto.
What if instead you charge at a dog charging at you and try to punch the face or even lower the shoulder to hit, football style? An arm or hand sticking out has more area to bite. Dipping the shoulder has less dog jaw sized areas to latch on to. I mean, depending on how athletic you are, spin move and then charge as to avoid the initial leap from the dog (football spin style). For the punching of a leaping dog, you gotta have good timing.
The point of the above is that you aren't going to outrun a dog.
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the dog will instinctively go for your neck...
How does a dog know what a human neck is?
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a dog can tell what is a "head" and what is a torso...
How does a dog know what a human neck is?
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How does a dog know what a human neck is?
Dogs instinctively know where the throat is on most animals that have one.
They don't want to get bitten, so they go for the throat. The victim can't turn and bite back, and they know it's a good place to hurt the prey.
We had a pair of boxer bulldogs when i was a kid. All our friends knew to wait outside so we could let the dogs into the backyard, just to be safe. They weren't aggressive, but they were protective against strangers.
My older brother came in the front door with a friend of ours right behind him. My brother didn't have him wait outside -- just came in like they both lived there.
Before we knew it was happening, the mother of the other dog saw the "stranger" and ran right at him. Luckily, the kid had great reflexes. He hit her in the nose as he protected his throat with his hand. Otherwise, she would have had a clear shot at his throat.
Animals just know.
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the dog will instinctively go for your neck...
That's why I mentioned the football style hit. This would mean the head is tucked so neck exposure is greatly reduced. If one were to tackle with their head up and neck exposed, they would get smashed and prob a broken neck.
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He hit her in the nose as he protected his throat with his hand. Otherwise, she would have had a clear shot at his throat.
I never thought about covering the neck with your other hand if you're going for the punch/hit. Some thought experiments are beneficial.
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the dog will instinctively go for your neck...
I once had a "friend " who had a "trained" St. Bernard, biggest I've ever seen to date.
It stayed in an open closet just adjacent to the house entrance where when the owner opened the door, he was between the dog and the entrance.
I was sitting in the room when there was a knock upon the door and the owner went to open it.
It was someone he knew that was very exited and when the door opened, he rushed in past the owner.
The dog came out of the closet, stood up and literally grabbed the guy with his massive jaws encompassing his head and began to drag him back into the closet. :shake:
The owner grabbed a short spade shovel (apparently his dog control device) and began beating the dog over the head.
I mean full on whacks.
No effect.
He then used the shovel to pry open dogs mouth to free the guy.
I left.
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What about giving the dog a Kancho?
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So some info, peppery spray has little if any affect on a attacking/excited dog. If anything, all it does is change it's environment cause now they're somewhat wet.
Then don't forget to tell the owner if you want that they need to wash their do good or they will pet dog and rub eye or breath in the OC.
Brake cleaner or carb cleaner spray garans work. Will blind and possibly kill the dog if sprayed in the face.
I wouldn’t try any kind of football maneuver or even try to hit a dog on the head with my bare hand. Dogs move extremely fast compared to a human.
A can of brake cleaner spray and a katana should be good defense weapons against a dog or dogs attacking you.
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Take off your shirt. Wrap it around your weak forearm.
Crouch down, protect your vitals, holding the weak arm in front of you.
When the dog leaps at you and clamps on your weak arm, take your knife and cut it's throat.
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Take off your shirt. Wrap it around your weak forearm.
Crouch down, protect your vitals, holding the weak arm in front of you.
When the dog leaps at you and clamps on your weak arm, take your knife and cut it's throat.
Or this ....
https://youtu.be/vj6xkBkbW1A
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Take off your shirt. Wrap it around your weak forearm.
Crouch down, protect your vitals, holding the weak arm in front of you.
When the dog leaps at you and clamps on your weak arm, take your knife and cut it's throat.
Unfortunately, even a 70 lb dog will probably have enough force to knock you over. A Rottweiler’s bite has been known to draw blood and bruise
even through those thick bite protection training sleeves. When I am playing with my 110 lb Rottweiler and he bumps into me with the side of his
body while spinning around, that has enough force to knock me down if I was just standing upright.
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Or this ....
https://youtu.be/vj6xkBkbW1A
I actually love dogs. I would prefer this method absolutely. I'd carry dog biscuits but not sure if I would go as far as eating them. :rofl:
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Unfortunately, even a 70 lb dog will probably have enough force to knock you over. A Rottweiler’s bite has been known to draw blood and bruise
even through those thick bite protection training sleeves. When I am playing with my 110 lb Rottweiler and he bumps into me with the side of his
body while spinning around, that has enough force to knock me down if I was just standing upright.
I hear you. My daughter has a pittie that is so friendly. But he weighs about 70 plus lbs. And when he bumps into me, he throws me off balance, lol!
And my couch commando approach to an attack by a dog is something I have no experience nor expertise in. It's just something I probably would do in a last ditch situation. No sense run.
And actually, the thread title is attack by dogs. My theory wouldn't work. CCW would probably be the best option.
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I once had a "friend " who had a "trained" St. Bernard, biggest I've ever seen to date.
It stayed in an open closet just adjacent to the house entrance where when the owner opened the door, he was between the dog and the entrance.
I was sitting in the room when there was a knock upon the door and the owner went to open it.
It was someone he knew that was very exited and when the door opened, he rushed in past the owner.
The dog came out of the closet, stood up and literally grabbed the guy with his massive jaws encompassing his head and began to drag him back into the closet. :shake:
The owner grabbed a short spade shovel (apparently his dog control device) and began beating the dog over the head.
I mean full on whacks.
No effect.
He then used the shovel to pry open dogs mouth to free the guy.
I left.
I saw that movie when I was a child...
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I saw that movie when I was a child...
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Was no movie, actually happened
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And my couch commando approach to an attack by a dog is something I have no experience nor expertise in. It's just something I probably would do in a last ditch situation. No sense run.
"couch commando approach"
Are you hitting him with the couch or just telling it to come sit down ? :rofl:
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"couch commando approach"
Are you hitting him with the couch or just telling it to come sit down ? :rofl:
Ha ha, I'd try anything if I could stop him to not want to attack me. ;D