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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: numbertwo on December 29, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
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I gave up looking for any AK's or AR's, I'm hoping the ban doesn't happen for a while and within that time I'm hoping the hype dies down and they can be affordable and available again. Probably not likely for either but what ever :wacko:
I'll just go and buy my first 1911.
What are some good 1911's to buy locally at/under $800? I've seen OGC has a pretty good selection but is there any other shops here on Oahu that are worth looking at too?
From what I've gathered so far RIA or Springfield Armory (RO or Operator), or even a used Colt? I ask again here since the prices differ from our mainland friends.
Thanks for any help in advance.
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Springfield Loaded
Springfield GI
STI Spartan
Armscor
ATI
Citadel
Remington R1
Ruger SR1911
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I gave up looking for any AK's or AR's, I'm hoping the ban doesn't happen for a while and within that time I'm hoping the hype dies down and they can be affordable and available again. Probably not likely for either but what ever :wacko:
I'll just go and buy my first 1911.
What are some good 1911's to buy locally at/under $800? I've seen OGC has a pretty good selection but is there any other shops here on Oahu that are worth looking at too?
From what I've gathered so far RIA or Springfield Armory (RO or Operator), or even a used Colt? I ask again here since the prices differ from our mainland friends.
Thanks for any help in advance.
I seen X-ring received a collection of AKs....maybe you should check them out for your AK needs. The 1911s will/should continue to be available.
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Have you checked out this one for sale?
I'd like to get a 1911 too at some point, but I'm weary of paying for the ammo.
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408
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Have you checked out this one for sale?
I'd like to get a 1911 too at some point, but I'm weary of paying for the ammo.
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408)
Everyone should have a 1911 at some point just because.
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I seen X-ring received a collection of AKs....maybe you should check them out for your AK needs. The 1911s will/should continue to be available.
I saw that too but I'm sure they've pretty much all been or quickly about to be spoken for. I guess you could say I've given it all up in that department, thanks though.
Them Ruger SR1911's are lovely, I wonder if anyone has them locally.
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Have you checked out this one for sale?
I'd like to get a 1911 too at some point, but I'm weary of paying for the ammo.
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408)
Nice! Gonna have to look at some reviews for that one.
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Are all 1911's (same size of course-fullsize .45acp) pretty much the same as far as upgrades go?
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From what I've gathered Skies the limit when it comes to upgrades, that's part of the fun :D
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The ruger is a good option
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There is a Para USA GI 1911 in the clasified. for $600 the extra $200 gonna be for ammo as the domino effect of this gunbuying madnes going to affect others tdam 1 bottle of sierra nevada makes me feel good lol.
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There was a Bushmaster 5.56 AR at Sports Auth. Kapolei at about 7pm last night for $1099. There was a guy on the phone that was telling his wife to bring his permit and to hurry up. I'm guessing that's what he wanted to hurry up and buy. I was thinking of picking it up as I keep my permit in my wallet, but I'm planning on building something different.
Anyway,
AR's are obviously still out there.......
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you mean a bushmaster ar with flash supressor?
one that's capable of being modified to fire 6 rounds per second?
and empty a hundred round magazine in less than a minute?
why would sports authoritah sell such a dangerous assault weapon?
it serves no hunting purpose!
just in case you cannot tell, i'm kidding, of course
There was a Bushmaster 5.56 AR at Sports Auth. Kapolei at about 7pm last night for $1099. There was a guy on the phone that was telling his wife to bring his permit and to hurry up. I'm guessing that's what he wanted to hurry up and buy. I was thinking of picking it up as I keep my permit in my wallet, but I'm planning on building something different.
Anyway,
AR's are obviously still out there.......
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The ruger is a good option
if my budget was 800, i'd probably go with a Ruger SS
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I picked up a Remington R1 Enhanced last year for about $800.
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RIA, RIA, RIA!!!
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Picked up a Range Officer from Gunbroker earlier this year for around $750 excluding FFL fee and shipping, only because there were none on the island. Awesome gun! Fit is like a TRP but without the bells and whistles like front serrations, night sights, front strap checkering, etc.
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I would highly recommend checking out the Kimber Custom II as well.
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X-Ring has a American Classic 1911 in 45. It is made in the PI and is very well made. And its under $750. I would buy one. It has all the right items on it
This model is highlighted by the following features:
•Caliber: .45 ACP
•Overall Length: 8.375”
•Barrel Length: 5”
•Height: 5.5”
•Width: 1.25”
•Weight (empty): 37.28 oz.
•Frame: 4140 Steel
•Slide: 4140 Hammer Forged Steel
•Single Action
•Novak-Style Rear Sight
•Dovetail Front Sight
•Flared Ejection Port
•Extended Slide Stop
•Beavertail Grip Safety
•Combat Hammer
•Combat Trigger
•Front & Rear Serration
•Extended Thumb Safety
•Throated FORGED STEEL Barrel
•Front & Rear Slide Serration
•Checkered Hard Wood Grip w/ Diamond Cut
•9-rd Magazine w/ Bumper Pad
•Finish: Duo-tone
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.................I'll just go and buy my first 1911.
What are some good 1911's to buy locally at/under $800? I've seen OGC has a pretty good selection but is there any other shops here on Oahu that are worth looking at too?
From what I've gathered so far RIA or Springfield Armory (RO or Operator), or even a used Colt? I ask again here since the prices differ from our mainland friends.
Thanks for any help in advance.
OK, $800 for a good quality 1911 is not going to happen unless you are talking used...........at least if you are talking the Springfields or Colts.
I think you should up your budget to $1,200, then you are talking some really good (new) choices. No Taurus-es please.
Are all 1911's (same size of course-fullsize .45acp) pretty much the same as far as upgrades go?
No the 1911's can vary greatly and a lot of the time you are talking some smithing to get parts to fit. IMHO pay once to get the 1911 the way you want it. This isn't like an AR15 where it's easy to put parts on and swap things out.
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I paid bought a new Springfield loaded for $550.
I wasn't impressed with RIA nor with the salesman trying to say it will outshoot my Colt National Match.
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No the 1911's can vary greatly and a lot of the time you are talking some smithing to get parts to fit. IMHO pay once to get the 1911 the way you want it. This isn't like an AR15 where it's easy to put parts on and swap things out.
This is way off base. The 1911 was a US service weapon for decades. Of course it is a standardized platform! There is a milspec 1911 standard, and milspec parts are drop-in interchangeable. Exactly like ARs.
Now, many of the companies people are endorsing have decided to move away from milspec. So, if you choose to buy one of those, then you will be tied to custom parts and gunsmiths for modifications. But the same can be said of ARs.
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This is way off base. The 1911 was a US service weapon for decades. Of course it is a standardized platform! There is a milspec 1911 standard, and milspec parts are drop-in interchangeable. Exactly like ARs.
Now, many of the companies people are endorsing have decided to move away from milspec. So, if you choose to buy one of those, then you will be tied to custom parts and gunsmiths for modifications. But the same can be said of ARs.
Really?
Let's see, 1911 regular barrel vs. bull barrel. Not a drop in replacement from slide to slide. AR15's...........drop in replacement.
Fitting the 1911 barrel to the front bushing. Fitting the 1911 front bushing to the slide and to the barrel. 1911 handguards. pretty much drop in replacement.
Drop in 10-8 extended slide release did not fit on my friend's Springfield. AR15 throw in different charging handles, battery assist devices, ambi releases, buffers, etc.
Try fitting any number of the myriad parts from a 1911 from one maker to another and you need fitting............example Ed Brown, to Nighthawk, to Les Baer, to Wilson, etc......you aren't just dropping in a main spring housing, beavertail, etc. Even triggers need some minor fitment. Heck there are even different cuts for the sights that you intend on putting on a 1911 slide.
The list goes on and on and on............1911 platform is infamous for needing additional fitment to get the parts to fit and work properly.............exception might be something like the Taurus 1911's where the fitment and finish is so poor that there could be enough gap to get the new parts in there.
You will notice I said nothing about a milspec 1911. OP is asking about changing parts out and it would be a disservice to tell him everything is hunky dory and all parts will fit because that is not true.
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I have a RIA M1911 in 9mm.
I went for the Tactical version over the GI because I prefer the improved beavertail and the ambi safety.
Bought it online for ~$450, shipping included. Spent the extra $$ on ammo & extra magazines and have been shooting the snot out of it every chance I get 8)
If we ever get CCW here in Hawaii, you can bet it will be on my hip!
The M1911 is a great weapon.
But if you're not careful, folks get very emotional and start dick-measuring ("My Kimber is better than your Wilson/Colt/Whatever") in a hurry.
My suggestions are free and worth about as much:
- Identify your requirements first:
(Defending against the UN Takeover? Zombie Apocalypse? Western Societal Collapse? Or just want a good gun for HD and range days?)
- Then ID your budget ($800 is a tidy sum for many of us).
- Then do your research (posting here is a good start, but don't let us be your sole deciding factor).
- Find a good gunsmith and start talking to him about what you want to do to whatever gun you eventually get.
- Buy your gun, get some good magazines, buy some ammo and go shoot! Work at being the best shot you can be with your particular gun.
Good luck!
Post here with what you decide.
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I have a RIA M1911 in 9mm.
I went for the Tactical version over the GI because I prefer the improved beavertail and the ambi safety.
Bought it online for ~$450, shipping included. Spent the extra $$ on ammo & extra magazines and have been shooting the snot out of it every chance I get 8)
If we ever get CCW here in Hawaii, you can bet it will be on my hip!
The M1911 is a great weapon.
But if you're not careful, folks get very emotional and start dick-measuring ("My Kimber is better than your Wilson/Colt/Whatever") in a hurry.
My suggestions are free and worth about as much:
- Identify your requirements first:
(Defending against the UN Takeover? Zombie Apocalypse? Western Societal Collapse? Or just want a good gun for HD and range days?)
Yes to all 4.
- Then ID your budget ($800 is a tidy sum for many of us).
$800, Check
- Then do your research (posting here is a good start, but don't let us be your sole deciding factor).
Check..well that's where I'm at now, I went to young guns yesterday and looked at what they had, but I didn't have time to grope any of them.
- Find a good gunsmith and start talking to him about what you want to do to whatever gun you eventually get.
I'm probably not going to do much since I don't like messing with any thing, unless it's drop in stuff that I can easily install or remove myself with the exception of sights.
- Buy your gun, get some good magazines, buy some ammo and go shoot! Work at being the best shot you can be with your particular gun.
Good luck!
Post here with what you decide.
Responses in bold :)
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I paid bought a new Springfield loaded for $550.
I wasn't impressed with RIA nor with the salesman trying to say it will outshoot my Colt National Match.
:o do want! :shake:
I'm loving the discussion guys, thanks for all the help!. I'm waiting till the holiday hours stop and to go and check everything out including x-ring's american classic.
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Anyone have a para usa gi?
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http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408.0 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408.0)
Looks like it's still there
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Anyone have a para usa gi?
Another useful site is the M1911 forum http://forums.1911forum.com/ (http://forums.1911forum.com/) as well as the M1911 sub-forum in the M4 Carbine site http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=176 (http://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?f=176)
Aloha,
Ted
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http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408.0 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=5408.0)
Looks like it's still there
I'm looking at that one too that's why I asked to see how they liked it. :thumbsup: