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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: ren on October 06, 2024, 01:34:51 PM

Title: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: ren on October 06, 2024, 01:34:51 PM
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2024/10/06/ems-responding-apparent-double-stabbing-nanakuli-2-men-injured/
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: oldfart on October 06, 2024, 05:36:23 PM
UK just banned knives.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd05v5kk3neo
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: tim808 on October 06, 2024, 06:44:31 PM
Dang….i didn’t know that about 75% of murders were by firearms…..and only about 10% were by knives

https://www.criminalattorneycolumbus.com/which-weapons-are-most-commonly-used-for-homicides/
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: ren on October 06, 2024, 06:45:47 PM
Dang….i didn’t know that about 75% of murders were by firearms…..and only about 10% were by knives

https://www.criminalattorneycolumbus.com/which-weapons-are-most-commonly-used-for-homicides/

you should turn in your murder weapons
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 06, 2024, 10:09:03 PM
Not all homicides are created equal.

Some are justified self defense homicides.

Some are law enforcement involved shootings and other types of homicides.

Some are accidental and/or negligent homicides.

From a legal definition viewpoint, a homicide is not necessarily the same as murder.

It would be nice if the FBI would include the types of homicides being included and whether or not they were found to be justified versus wrongful deaths.

People have a certain image when they hear words like homicide or murder.  It oversimplifies what should be a more complex classification IMO.
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: oldfart on October 06, 2024, 11:38:36 PM
Update...
Two Wendy's employees stabbed.
One of them died.
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: tim808 on October 07, 2024, 02:38:10 AM
Maybe you should say that straight up to my face
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: randay on October 07, 2024, 07:05:15 AM
clearly criminal negligence by wendys for not bolting down thier furniture. i am announcing "everyforum for bolted down furniture group". please donate today so that we can stop wendys and their murderous ways.
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: rpoL98 on October 07, 2024, 09:21:36 AM
UK just banned knives.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd05v5kk3neo
returning to medieval days of yore, I guess back then only The Kings Men were allowed to own swords, 'till about the 1700's, not for the peasants.  battlefield assault weapons, how many enemy KIA before you had to reload (i.e. sharpen the blade)?

I guess if a peasant was caught in possession of a sword, they were obviously a domestic terrorist, and probably a white supremacist to boot!  since everybody in Olde England was white back then.

so Jolly Olde England going backwards about 300 years.  Eventually, they'll get to banning assault rocks.
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: QUIETShooter on October 07, 2024, 10:32:39 AM
The problem with the west side and elsewhere is violence.

There is this perception that actions have no consequences.  Laws are not being enforced and the revolving door concept is in full swing.

That and the criminals know that although we now have CCW, the laws governing it makes it practically worthless.

The problem is a toxic environment that encourages violence.  Do the crime, you do NO time.

And Hawaii's leaders feel the solution is to ban firearms and knives and screwdrivers and hammers and 2X4's and pipes and bats and sticks and rocks and chairs.........the list is as long as the bullsh*t flowing from that building on Beretania Street.
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: zippz on October 07, 2024, 11:08:39 AM
The problem with the west side and elsewhere is violence.

There is this perception that actions have no consequences.  Laws are not being enforced and the revolving door concept is in full swing.

That and the criminals know that although we now have CCW, the laws governing it makes it practically worthless.

The problem is a toxic environment that encourages violence.  Do the crime, you do NO time.

And Hawaii's leaders feel the solution is to ban firearms and knives and screwdrivers and hammers and 2X4's and pipes and bats and sticks and rocks and chairs.........the list is as long as the bullsh*t flowing from that building on Beretania Street.

Yea it's a culture of violence there.  I've heard it a few times to settle disagreements with fists not guns.  It feels like it's a daily part of life there and survival.  Guess the stereotype is true.
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: zippz on October 07, 2024, 11:10:34 AM
Sounds like the suspect will claim self-defense from this though it seems like he started the incident and escalated it.  Also appears the workers escalated the incident too but hard to say since it's difficult to deal with the homeless.


“Victim one, a 22-year-old male employee, approached the suspect and asked him to stop moving the furniture. An argument ensued when the suspect called victim one a derogatory name.”

According to police, the 22-year-old employee was joined by a 44-year old-coworker, who escorted the man out of the restaurant.

“The argument continued and reportedly victim one punched the suspect who in turn stabbed victim one and two,” added Lt. Thoemmes.
Title: Re: its not about guns on the west side
Post by: changemyoil66 on October 07, 2024, 02:25:55 PM
returning to medieval days of yore, I guess back then only The Kings Men were allowed to own swords, 'till about the 1700's, not for the peasants.  battlefield assault weapons, how many enemy KIA before you had to reload (i.e. sharpen the blade)?

I guess if a peasant was caught in possession of a sword, they were obviously a domestic terrorist, and probably a white supremacist to boot!  since everybody in Olde England was white back then.

so Jolly Olde England going backwards about 300 years.  Eventually, they'll get to banning assault rocks.

When the illegals were invading back in 2017/18ish, Germans have no guns. So they resorted to medieval weaponry.  And the cops/government didn't acknowledge the "no go" zones. Only a year or 2 later to confirm that they do exist.