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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: rpoL98 on November 23, 2024, 05:52:18 PM

Title: homelessness
Post by: rpoL98 on November 23, 2024, 05:52:18 PM
just FWIW, neither here nor there.

Top ten states for per-capita homelessness:
DC (73/10,000)
New York (52)
Vermont (51)
Oregon (48)
California (46)
Hawaii (43)
Alaska (36)
Washington (36)
Maine (31)
Massachusetts (27)

These Are the 10 States With the Most Homeless People:
California (181,399)
New York (103,200)
Florida (30,756)
Washington (28,036)
Texas (27,377)
Oregon (20,142)
Massachusetts (19,141)
Colorado (14,439)
Arizona (14,237)
Pennsylvania (12,556)

These Are the 10 States With the Least Homeless People:
Wyoming (532)
North Dakota (784)
Mississippi (982)
Delaware (1,245)
South Dakota (1,282)
West Virginia (1,416)
Rhode Island (1,810)
Montana (2,178)
Idaho (2,298)
New Hampshire (2,441)
Title: Re: homelessness
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 23, 2024, 06:12:47 PM
just FWIW, neither here nor there.

Top ten states for per-capita homelessness:
DC (73/10,000)
New York (52)
Vermont (51)
Oregon (48)
California (46)
Hawaii (43)
Alaska (36)
Washington (36)
Maine (31)
Massachusetts (27)

These Are the 10 States With the Most Homeless People:
California (181,399)
New York (103,200)
Florida (30,756)
Washington (28,036)
Texas (27,377)
Oregon (20,142)
Massachusetts (19,141)
Colorado (14,439)
Arizona (14,237)
Pennsylvania (12,556)

These Are the 10 States With the Least Homeless People:
Wyoming (532)
North Dakota (784)
Mississippi (982)
Delaware (1,245)
South Dakota (1,282)
West Virginia (1,416)
Rhode Island (1,810)
Montana (2,178)
Idaho (2,298)
New Hampshire (2,441)

Interesting data.  I was wondering where Nevada stood in this and found out it ranks 9th, right under Massachusetts.

I thought it would be higher on the list.  YTube videos show some really bad situations in North Las Vegas.

California and New York figures are just nuts.  I wonder if it includes the illegal migrants.  No wait.  Those fackahs live better than us with all the biden/harris hand-outs. :crazy:
Title: Re: homelessness
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2024, 06:20:14 PM
Homelessness is a symptom, not a 'disease' or condition.

Eliminate the causes, and you eliminate the symptom.

Sometimes "root causes" is a valid objective to pursue.

Just off the top of my head, forced housing and treatment of the mentally ill and chronic drug addicts (often 2 groups that overlap) would be a great start.  Imagine the reduction in both violent and petty crimes as well as nuisance calls to LE. 
Title: Re: homelessness
Post by: oldfart on November 23, 2024, 07:13:40 PM
I talk to some homeless people almost every day.
They are across the street from my house.
Some are nice but a little crazy.
It's tough to help the crazy folks. :rofl:
Title: Re: homelessness
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 23, 2024, 07:51:48 PM
I talk to some homeless people almost every day.
They are across the street from my house.
Some are nice but a little crazy.
It's tough to help the crazy folks. :rofl:

Bring back the asylums.  Hey, I may sound callous and cruel.

But ainokea.  There's only so much we can do for people refusing to help themselves.
Title: Re: homelessness
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2024, 07:53:11 PM
I talk to some homeless people almost every day.
They are across the street from my house.
Some are nice but a little crazy.
It's tough to help the crazy folks. :rofl:

It's tougher when you ask the person if they prefer living under a roof with meals, medical care and treatment for their problems, and they pick living on their own on the streets. 

i fail to see how letting them choose how they live is more moral or compassionate than giving them a chance to have a better and safer place to live when you know their judgement may be impaired .  We force people with mental decline to let others manage their money and take care of them against their wishes.  What's the difference?
Title: Re: homelessness
Post by: ren on November 23, 2024, 10:50:28 PM
Nothing in life is absolute. There's always going to be people who choose to live their lives within or outside the confines of our society and there will be some left behind - not everyone will be keeping up with everyone else. Anyone bought a house? You submit your price to the seller and yes, you are competing with others or maybe not for that same piece of property. Life is competitive. There will be outliers

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Title: Re: homelessness
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2024, 11:38:07 PM
Nothing in life is absolute. There's always going to be people who choose to live their lives within or outside the confines of our society and there will be some left behind - not everyone will be keeping up with everyone else. Anyone bought a house? You submit your price to the seller and yes, you are competing with others or maybe not for that same piece of property. Life is competitive.

That's part of the human condition.  There's no way to solve poverty, homelessness, mental health, substance addictions or treat all physical illnesses for everyone in every case,

I look at it like owning and carrying firearms.  Is there a solution that makes violent people harmless?  Obviously not, so until there's a total answer to make us safe, it's better to be prepared for if/when a bad thing happens.  Same for the people on the street due to issues that make them dangerous or violent.  If we know there is no way to make certain people better, then we do what we can to protect society from them in case they become dangerous.  That includes dangers to themselves.